Indexed? What is it and what does it mean?

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People have been saying "get your article indexed before submitting to article directories."

But what I can't find is what does that mean?

I write and article, post it on one of my blogs/sites, then submit it to an article directory. From what I'm gathering, that is wrong.

The way I'm reading into what others are saying, there has to be a waiting period after I post it and before I submit it. So, how long is this waiting period?

Can I assume that something posted on your website is NOT the same as something being indexed? If not, how does something get indexed and how do you know when it is indexed and safe to submit to an article directory?

Obviously I'm missing something here because it seems everyone knows about this except me. Help!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrmuscle90
    Indexed basically means its been picked up by search engines, if a site or article hasnt been indexed then no one will find it through the search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

    People have been saying "get your article indexed before submitting to article directories."

    But what I can't find is what does that mean?
    "Indexation" = the process in which a search engine (typically Google but of course there are many others, too) "sees" your new content and includes it in its index, i.e. adds it to the list of stuff that's eligible to come up in the search engine results pages when people put search-terms in the little box.

    Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

    I write and article, post it on one of my blogs/sites, then submit it to an article directory. From what I'm gathering, that is wrong.
    Not really.

    Well, much better than doing it the other way round, anyway!

    But better still if you check that Google's indexed it before you submit it anywhere else. For complicated reasons, and not the simple ones most people imagine (many of which are typically mistaken).

    Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

    So, how long is this waiting period?
    It varies.

    In this forum, for example, it's about 10 minutes, because this site gets indexed all the time, day and night. Because it gets updated so regularly - and that's the point. The more regularly your sites are updated, the more frequently they're indexed. It's kind of a "learning process" for search engines - all automated, of course.

    Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

    Can I assume that something posted on your website is NOT the same as something being indexed?
    Yes, correct.

    Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

    If not, how does something get indexed
    In one of three ways:-

    (i) Google "just finds it" because it already knows of your site's existence, takes a quick look every now and again, and finds something new and adds it to its index (in other words, "it happens on its own");

    (ii) You actively tell Google that it's there and invite it to come and look (people I trust tell me that this works really badly, and that Google prefers to find stuff on its own, and I do actually believe them);

    (iii) Google sees backlinks on other sites to your new content and thinks to itself "Ooh, better take a quick look, then" and goes to your site and indexes it. This can definitely work, but is probably only really necessary if Google's being slow to index it unprompted. And it's obviously a nuisance to have to start making backlinks to something just to get it indexed. But probably better than informing Google directly, even so.

    The bottom line is: "update regularly"!

    Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

    how do you know when it is indexed and safe to submit to an article directory?
    This is the important question.

    I'll tell you how I check: I take a ten-word segment from my new content, a bit that crosses a period (i.e. the end of one sentence and the start of the next), and I put it into Google between "inverted commas". If my new content comes up in the results, then it's been indexed. Simple, but reliable.

    (Mine are always indexed within 48 hours, often much less. But I do update regularly.)

    Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

    it seems everyone knows about this except me. Help!
    Not at all, Andrew. You're just one of those really useful people who sometimes asks stuff that 500 other people also wanted to know but hadn't asked for themselves. So you're doing loads of people a favour, starting a thread like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebRank1
    What alexa says about the quotes. You could also run this query> site:http://www.yourarticle.url
    If you get results with your article page(s) that means it is indexed by the search engine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coyotex
    Awesome stuff Alexa, thanks!

    I do have one question, which is probably because of my warped way of thinking......

    in your number iii: "(iii) Google sees backlinks on other sites to your new content and thinks to itself "Ooh, better take a quick look, then" and goes to your site and indexes it. This can definitely work, but is probably only really necessary if Google's being slow to index it unprompted."


    If Google sees a backlink from another site back to your post and may index it faster this way, doesn't that defeat the purpose of waiting for it to be indexed before posting it somewhere else? How does this someplace else know about the post if you haven't posted it anywhere else because you're waiting for it to be indexed?

    Gee, that's a confusing statement, but I think you'll get my point. Am I thinking too deep with this stuff? lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

      If Google sees a backlink from another site back to your post and may index it faster this way, doesn't that defeat the purpose of waiting for it to be indexed before posting it somewhere else?
      No; I'm not suggesting you post the content elsewhere (which would indeed defeat the purpose!), just a link to it - with an anchor-text keyword or whatever.

      Originally Posted by Coyotex View Post

      How does this someplace else know about the post if you haven't posted it anywhere else because you're waiting for it to be indexed?
      Google knows about the "someplace else" because you make sure that the "someplace else" is a regularly inspected/indexed page.

      For example: if you had a website that you hadn't added any content to, let's say, for months and months (Google typically won't be checking this site too often), and you want to get it moving again, so you write a new article and post it there, and you check two or three days later and Google still hasn't indexed it yet (could easily happen) ... if you then created a temporary signature-file link in this forum announcing "New article about miniature telescopes" (or whatever) with a clickable link to your new article on your old site, Google will see that within 10 minutes (because Googlebots and Google spiders almost live here) and index your new page on your old site more quickly than it would have done otherwise (it might still take a day or two, though - I don't suggest that that will also happen in 10 minutes). That's the theory, anyway.

      Once you update a site regularly, you don't need to think about this at all: stuff will "get indexed on its own" within a day or two (or three).

      And you obviously already know enough to appreciate that the post just above, calling indexation a "scam", is utter nonsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author nerrutis
    Telling the truth its just some scam word, as you website gets indexed automatically, no matter if you index it yourself or not!
    Trying to index it is just a waste of time!
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by nerrutis View Post

      Telling the truth its just some scam word, as you website gets indexed automatically, no matter if you index it yourself or not!
      Trying to index it is just a waste of time!
      Hi nerrutis,

      Your assertion is not entirely accurate.

      Technically, search engines do not index websites, they index individual pages. Many websites may have pages that are not indexed and some of those pages may never be indexed if there is nothing prompting the search engines to do so.

      Most blogging software, like Wordpress, have added a feature to automatically ping new posts/pages, alerting the search engines to crawl the new pages. If you are not using some method alerting Search Engines of your new pages, either by pinging or linking from other indexed pages, you might never have the page indexed.

      And that is the real truth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sebastian Oudot
    Really interesting thread here.

    Thanks Alexa for this great infos.

    If I understand correctly, the best way to have our blog post indexed very quickly is to create a signature link on this great forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author mandark
    If I understand correctly, the best way to have our blog post indexed very quickly is to create a signature link on this great forum.
    This is a common and good way to get your site indexed - by posting a sig link in active forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    "indexed" means that your content is available in search engines and visible in Google in particular. There is an easy way to find out whether your website is indexed or not: use the term:

    site:yoururlhere.com

    If Goog showes your site, it is indexed.
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