Google does not like spun content

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So, you have build this beautiful web site.

Then you need some SEO.

Now you go and sign up for one of these services that spin articles and deliver you a bunch of links in a hurry....

Do you really believe that Google can not recognize spun content?

Hey, it is a computer doing the spinning...

I guess I will get flames big time for writing this... but I am writing it anyhow.

There are a bunch of guys making a truck load of cash signing you up for their "private networks" or selling you the latest spin machine.

Google employs some of the smartest programmers on this planet. I suggest you keep your nose clean and don't expect to build a long lasting business on trickery.
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  • Profile picture of the author aheil
    Thanks for this obvious-ness.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyoung75
    Spun content reads like crap. I haven't managed to find a spinner that spins something itself and then makes sense.

    Every article I spin I do it myself and proof read it.

    Surely if the article reads well and has a decent percentage spun then its ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
    I don't know much, but the guy that created adsense sites for me do spun articles and which these sites aren't ranked well.
    Has been 3 months and not yet listed in google.
    It maybe some other reason, but I do believe spun content is not google friendly.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    HUMANS don't like spun content.
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    • Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      HUMANS don't like spun content.
      Humans can't tell spun content from original content if it's done properly.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOpsychic
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      HUMANS don't like spun content.
      and spinning is cheating. in our pidgin english here in Ghana, "to spin" means "to lie"...lol
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      • Profile picture of the author george99
        computers are dumb! and they are even dumber when trying to parse language.
        thanks,
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        • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
          Google doesn't like spun content?

          That's news to me. I have 5 articles based on longtail keywords on pages 2 and 3 with barely spun content (spun from public domain content). I'm not even sending backlinks directly to those pages. They're feeding it off of the seo juice pumped to the main page.

          Plus, when I created another blog for the same niche, I took those same articles and put them on the new site, word for word. And they are ranking well on the new site too. One of them is even neck and neck with the first site (#14 and #15).

          So my barely spun content is doing well. And pages with exact wording are doing well too.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      HUMANS don't like spun content.
      Hi markowe,

      Apparently you don't understand what spun content is. There is no way that you can tell what is spun and what is not. You would probably be shocked if you knew how often you read spun content and thought it was great.

      Poorly written content is poorly written content, regardless of whether it was spun or not. Great content is great content regardless if it was spun or not. A person can write original content that looks exactly like a badly spun article and a person can spin content that looks as good as anything you have ever read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charliebee
    and Google doesn't have enough money to hire enough foreign nationals who speak grammatically correct english to have a human read each post/article on every website. Google doesn't speak english and for that matter probably over 50% of the users on the web don't know a dangling participle from their toenails. Even Google's programmers aren't smart enough to create artificial intelligence that can read a spun article and tell that it was spun. Google can't read English, let alone Swahili.
    I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but there it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author bnwebm
    And it isn't ALL about Google, now is it? I don't write for search engines, I write for readers who turn into customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Albert Pasillas
    Spun Content is cool if you are using the content to turn into videos, or getting creative with it in other ways, but I dont think it would be a good idea to use on adsense sites. It would have worked a couple years ago, but why waste time doing that for a long term investment like making adsense money.

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  • Profile picture of the author Nickolie0990
    If you spin your articles the correct way, then both a human and the search engines will not know the difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author BaltimoreDave
    If you're just submitting articles for backlinks then you can spin. You don't have to though. It's my understanding that Google won't penalize you for submitting duplicate content. It's not unique, so your articles might not get indexed for some sites...But you're still getting backlinks.

    I use articles that have awesome content. Then I submit it. Maybe,then I rewrite it....Then submit else where
    As for articles that aren't that important to me (or just for backlinks), I spin and submit them to dozens of sites.

    Think about it. If you wrote an amazing article that you thought people would love, wouldn't you submit it to several article databases?. Lot's of people do that with out intent to make money.

    In essence, It depends on what you're intent is. Hope this clears things up.
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
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    • Profile picture of the author bnwebm
      Absolutely agree, and to adhere to these doesn't take any additional time or expense.

      Originally Posted by LauraJames View Post

      I believe integrity, common sense, and professionalism are exceedingly more important and valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Google does not like spun content
    You think Google hates the stuff, think how bad those of us who actually start reading it hate the crap. -- And notice, I did say "start" because viewers are never gonna get to the end of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author bummed.out
      I have had spun content delivered to me before. I certainly won't argue whether or not it can be done "correctly" so that it reads like normal English (or your language of choice); maybe it can.

      Speaking from personal experience, I've usually ended up thoroughly editing spun content because its use of synonyms often resulted in articles that read...well, sometimes, inappropriately enthusiastic sounding...or simply nonsensical, depending on the niche - particularly if it's one that requires correct, factual statements.

      I'm sure spinning has its place, but for me, for some time, now, I either write/rewrite all my actual content myself - or if it gets outsourced, then it goes to a good writer who has at least a reasonable grasp on the language. I've left pages which have software-spun content before; it's simply unpleasant to read.

      See you later, two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author soulpower
    Google just does not like you. If you spin wisely with multi-level spinning then you can make it work for you, if you hit autospin like a moron then you get moron results...duhhhhhrrrr
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  • Profile picture of the author myshow
    Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

    So, you have build this beautiful web site.

    Then you need some SEO.

    Now you go and sign up for one of these services that spin articles and deliver you a bunch of links in a hurry....

    Do you really believe that Google can not recognize spun content?

    Hey, it is a computer doing the spinning...

    I guess I will get flames big time for writing this... but I am writing it anyhow.

    There are a bunch of guys making a truck load of cash signing you up for their "private networks" or selling you the latest spin machine.

    Google employs some of the smartest programmers on this planet. I suggest you keep your nose clean and don't expect to build a long lasting business on trickery.
    But I guess it won't be much of a problem and works positively if you do the spinning manually.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    The Google algo couldn't spot a spun article If it wanted to, that's just nonsense. :rolleyes:

    Google reads text, they can't verify that the text is in a logical order like a human.

    I'm not sure If this one is Google paranoia, or just planting a sig link?
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    • Profile picture of the author debra
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The Google algo couldn't spot a spun article If it wanted to, that's just nonsense. :rolleyes:

      Google reads text, they can't verify that the text is in a logical order like a human.

      I'm not sure If this one is Google paranoia, or just planting a sig link?
      That is soooo true!

      Example:

      Human reads this:
      Google likes my site better than yours.

      Google crawls this:
      01000111 01101111 01101111 01100111 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 01110011 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01110011 01101001 01110100 01100101 00100000 01100010 01100101 01110100 01110100 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 01110011 00101110

      Human reads this:
      Google favors your website over mine.

      Google crawls this:
      01000111 01101111 01101111 01100111 01101100 01100101 00100000 01100110 01100001 01110110 01101111 01110010 01110011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01110111 01100101 01100010 01110011 01101001 01110100 01100101 00100000 01101111 01110110 01100101 01110010 00100000 01101101 01101001 01101110 01100101 00101110


      Which one is the original and which one is the spun?
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      • He done spinned a word-pot fulla them kee-wurds! And them no good Googlers didn't even notice!
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    • Profile picture of the author lucky777
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The Google algo couldn't spot a spun article If it wanted to, that's just nonsense. :rolleyes:

      Google reads text, they can't verify that the text is in a logical order like a human.

      I'm not sure If this one is Google paranoia, or just planting a sig link?

      Humans can spot it so if your site is reviewed manually and you use spun content expect it to drop in the rankings.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Exactly!

        That's why JcPenney would still be #1 in the SERPs, If it wasn't for a blog post that narked them out in the first place & then went viral on WSJ. It took a manual review to remove them from ranking so high on multiple keywords.

        Q) Why did it take a manual review?

        A) Because the G algo. isn't capable of spotting spun articles that JcPenney was getting backlinks from.

        Thanks for making my point (appreciate it).



        Originally Posted by lucky777 View Post

        Humans can spot it so if your site is reviewed manually and you use spun content expect it to drop in the rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author dlinden
    Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

    So, you have build this beautiful web site.

    Then you need some SEO.

    Now you go and sign up for one of these services that spin articles and deliver you a bunch of links in a hurry....

    Do you really believe that Google can not recognize spun content?

    Hey, it is a computer doing the spinning...

    I guess I will get flames big time for writing this... but I am writing it anyhow.

    There are a bunch of guys making a truck load of cash signing you up for their "private networks" or selling you the latest spin machine.

    Google employs some of the smartest programmers on this planet. I suggest you keep your nose clean and don't expect to build a long lasting business on trickery.
    I use tbs...and I never just click the auto spin button and submit...I go through manually and select my own words or phrases to spin...the articles come out making sense as well as it saves me a lot of time rather than writing a article from scratch.

    So I agree that spinning software's are only bad only if you use them the wrong way
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

    ding ding ding here comes the wagon...

    Ive read a lot of the vomit some of you quality content apologists shlap up on eza and the other tripe farms ...

    Frankly ... 75% of the time i think I prefer spun stuff.

    Google employs some of the smartest programmers on this planet. I suggest you keep your nose clean and don't expect to build a long lasting business on trickery.
    "Yahhh! Do as Google Says .... not as it does ... you short cutting bass-tards outranking the worlds word-smythes with your cheating ..."
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  • Profile picture of the author seo-expert
    I also don't like spun content... so that makes two of us Google. =)

    Write your articles with human readers in mind. Don't write articles that are full of keywords that your articles have become incoherent... and don't trust article spinners.
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    • Originally Posted by seo-expert View Post

      I also don't like spun content... so that makes two of us Google. =)

      Write your articles with human readers in mind. Don't write articles that are full of keywords that your articles have become incoherent... and don't trust article spinners.
      You're an SEO expert? :rolleyes:

      Write your articles for humans, spin your articles for backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author 528daniel
    All this system worth nothing after the "Panda" change of Google, what is important now is the context of the site and the links he get and where you direct you out going links.
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  • Profile picture of the author dealsbellwork
    Yeah...it's true and google has recently launched google panda to stop all this like content duplication and content spinning
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    • Originally Posted by dealsbellwork View Post

      Yeah...it's true and google has recently launched google panda to stop all this like content duplication and content spinning
      No, they launched panda to give better search results to the people searching for stuff.

      It just happens that sites like ezinearticles and other 'content farms' no longer have huge ranking power like they used to.

      They are still great for backlinks and increasing the search ranks of your own pages. I never understood why anyone would want to rank an article on a website that they did not own instead of ranking their own websites anyway.

      Most of the content on those sites isn't very great quality, spun or not, there was no reason for them to rank high in search results over other pages that have better content about the keywords being searched.

      Panda update wasn't to stop article spinning. That's silly, article spinning makes Google a ton of money every single day through ads placed on the very sites that host spun content. Panda update was to improve search results.
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  • Profile picture of the author asher_gben
    yeah oneday google will kill all the spuned articles
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    We have grabbed over 2000 page one rankings for Warriors in the last 11 months using only auto spun articles. So I guess it is safe to say that I do not agree with the argument posted in the op. I have seen too much evidence that is contrary to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I prefer to spin my articles on my own, and tend to do well. Google can't really tell the difference. They might penalize you if your syntax is broken and you use a lot of the same words/structure, but a well-spun article works fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author yeshuaisiam
    Content matters. Spun articles look and read terrible. If you want natural growth and people that find your content good linking it, I would avoid spinners. It's kind of pseudo spamming your article just to make a buck.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by yeshuaisiam View Post

      Content matters. Spun articles look and read terrible.
      Hi yeshuaisiam,

      I hope you meant to add "Except when they look and read beautifully." Because some of the best content you have ever read may have been spun content so beautifully crafted that it could win a literary prize.

      I find this whole notion, that spun content has to always be terrible, to be absolutely ludicrous. Content can be bad whether it is spun or not and the most beautiful words you have ever read might actually be spun content. If it is well crafted, how could you ever know it was spun?
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  • Profile picture of the author pamellad2711
    Thanks for sharing, there a tons that doing spun content, that is why google is changing their algorithm constantly, and I have heard about google panda, about the duplicate sites and that's why be careful in doing a spun content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anna Hussie
    After Spinning you need to edit it and correct the spelling mistakes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pedro Borges
    There are spinned articles that are quite good to human eyes. If people spend time, tweaking them until they become 100% readable i don't think there is any problem with using this tactic to gain valuable backlinks.

    The problem is that 80% of the time, people just spin the articles and post whatever the software generates, without even looking if it makes any sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Google can't tell if your content is spun or not... How do I know? Because I'm killing with spun articles and as a result, I have tons no1 rankings.

    I even have one site where it only consists of only spun content and it's currently getting 800 uniques per day... And climbing.

    It's just a shame that this forum is full of what people "think" rather than what they "know".

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    On occasions, I have found that Google can detect 1st order synonymized only spins, but when you start spinning HTML, tags, links and knocking out sentences and paragraphs and throwing in rotating media, which is much easier than it sounds, my personal experience is that not even people, much less Google, can detect them.

    But that's just me. I have found that people who say that can't spin, they can only write.

    I find that a good seed, once it matures and you weed out the grammatical hiccups is worth it's weight in gold...indefinitely...and you can continuously refine and update them.
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