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Hi Warriors,

I understand that everyone has it's own SEO strategy. After Google Panda my main strategy has died, and now I'm incline to think more towards mini-sites network. This sort of strategy takes time to build but I think should be more effective in the long run, unless discovered by google.

What is your main strategy? Would you share?

Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author NastyBlast
    Originally Posted by chukcha View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    I understand that everyone has it's own SEO strategy. After Google Panda my main strategy has died, and now I'm incline to think more towards mini-sites network. This sort of strategy takes time to build but I think should be more effective in the long run, unless discovered by google.

    What is your main strategy? Would you share?

    Regards
    Google is going to find you no matter what type of network you deploy. The only time you get in trouble for deploying such a network is if you do excessive cross-linking between the domains.

    An Seo strategy for anyone is as unique as the different themes they might go after. People have to consider what their current resources are and how efficient their workflow is. If you have a good CMS( content management system ) that can handle/manage multiple domains then maintaining a large network of mini sites is realistic.

    But if you don't have those kind of resources then you're better off building a single main site and then deploying sub themes within that. This will take much longer but is easier to manage than hopping around a bunch of different interfaces to manage a large network that is not unified on the single CMS.
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by NastyBlast View Post

      Google is going to find you no matter what type of network you deploy. The only time you get in trouble for deploying such a network is if you do excessive cross-linking between the domains.

      An Seo strategy for anyone is as unique as the different themes they might go after. People have to consider what their current resources are and how efficient their workflow is. If you have a good CMS( content management system ) that can handle/manage multiple domains then maintaining a large network of mini sites is realistic.

      But if you don't have those kind of resources then you're better off building a single main site and then deploying sub themes within that. This will take much longer but is easier to manage than hopping around a bunch of different interfaces to manage a large network that is not unified on the single CMS.
      Hi NastyBlast,

      Would you recommend any specific CMS that do exactly that? And how excessive is excessive?
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Originally Posted by chukcha View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    I understand that everyone has it's own SEO strategy. After Google Panda my main strategy has died, and now I'm incline to think more towards mini-sites network. This sort of strategy takes time to build but I think should be more effective in the long run, unless discovered by google.

    What is your main strategy? Would you share?

    Regards
    Here's my take on this one.

    Atleast in the short-term, SEO is mostly about link building and content creation. If you have good quality (and lots of content) on the landing page(s) and have good quality inbound links, your pages will get high rankings.

    Even after the Panda update my link building strategy hasn't really changed. I am now just trying to get more links from good quality locations.

    What I mean to say is, do not totally change your strategy just because of one algo update.
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by YasirYar View Post

      Here's my take on this one.

      Atleast in the short-term, SEO is mostly about link building and content creation. If you have good quality (and lots of content) on the landing page(s) and have good quality inbound links, your pages will get high rankings.

      Even after the Panda update my link building strategy hasn't really changed. I am now just trying to get more links from good quality locations.

      What I mean to say is, do not totally change your strategy just because of one algo update.
      Technically it is all about organisation I agree, but building mini-sites requires a lot of effort and time. Would be interested in hearing what would be a standard workflow organisation for let say 5 sites with unique content interlinked together?
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  • Profile picture of the author Giftys
    Originally Posted by chukcha View Post

    What is your main strategy?
    We use many. I think your best bet is to diversify as much as possible. That way if Google doesn't like one thing you're doing, maybe it won't mind the other. We got hit to some degree by Panda but luckily I had many irons in the fire so where we lost in one area, we are gaining in another. I know it's hard for younger business owners to spread out in the beginning but it is highly advisable to make that your goal. Diversification is a good business model in general, not just for SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by Giftys View Post

      We use many. I think your best bet is to diversify as much as possible. That way if Google doesn't like one thing you're doing, maybe it won't mind the other. We got hit to some degree by Panda but luckily I had many irons in the fire so where we lost in one area, we are gaining in another. I know it's hard for younger business owners to spread out in the beginning but it is highly advisable to make that your goal. Diversification is a good business model in general, not just for SEO.
      Would you please elaborate a little bit more on diversification? Having different markets/industry on the same host? What would be best if you would give an example of such diversification.

      Regards
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      • Profile picture of the author Giftys
        Originally Posted by chukcha View Post

        Would you please elaborate a little bit more on diversification? Having different markets/industry on the same host? What would be best if you would give an example of such diversification.

        Regards
        For example, one site could have extensive use of targeted search phrases and another site could have much less of same. With one site you could run an aggressive back-linking campaign but on another you could use only links within your network. etc. etc. Just mix it up. Nobody knows what the hell Google wants anymore anyway. They're not consistent with their results. There are perfectly clean sites that got hit with Panda so a lot of people (including me) have just quit trying to figure them out. They penalize one of my sites that has been working perfectly for 10 years straight and other sites of mine that I don't even touch, they completely ignore.

        My approach to SEO is 100% diversification. It saved us from Panda. We lost some over here but made up for it over there. Mix up your SEO strategies, mix up your marketing, mix up your online to offline marketing ratios, mix up your product offerings, mix up everything. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Diversification works.
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        • Profile picture of the author chukcha
          Originally Posted by Giftys View Post

          For example, one site could have extensive use of targeted search phrases and another site could have much less of same. With one site you could run an aggressive back-linking campaign but on another you could use only links within your network. etc. etc. Just mix it up. Nobody knows what the hell Google wants anymore anyway. They're not consistent with their results. There are perfectly clean sites that got hit with Panda so a lot of people (including me) have just quit trying to figure them out. They penalize one of my sites that has been working perfectly for 10 years straight and other sites of mine that I don't even touch, they completely ignore.

          My approach to SEO is 100% diversification. It saved us from Panda. We lost some over here but made up for it over there. Mix up your SEO strategies, mix up your marketing, mix up your online to offline marketing ratios, mix up your product offerings, mix up everything. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Diversification works.
          Hi Giftys,

          That is very honest, reasonable and common sense response, that does make sense and I think I do get the same feeling that google does not know what is happening with what. It just when something goes wrong then they act in some strange way. Thanks for the advice.
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        • Profile picture of the author KenB
          Originally Posted by Giftys View Post

          For example, one site could have extensive use of targeted search phrases and another site could have much less of same. With one site you could run an aggressive back-linking campaign but on another you could use only links within your network. etc. etc. Just mix it up. Nobody knows what the hell Google wants anymore anyway. They're not consistent with their results. There are perfectly clean sites that got hit with Panda so a lot of people (including me) have just quit trying to figure them out. They penalize one of my sites that has been working perfectly for 10 years straight and other sites of mine that I don't even touch, they completely ignore.

          My approach to SEO is 100% diversification. It saved us from Panda. We lost some over here but made up for it over there. Mix up your SEO strategies, mix up your marketing, mix up your online to offline marketing ratios, mix up your product offerings, mix up everything. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Diversification works.
          Great minds think alike.
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  • Originally Posted by chukcha View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    I understand that everyone has it's own SEO strategy. After Google Panda my main strategy has died, and now I'm incline to think more towards mini-sites network. This sort of strategy takes time to build but I think should be more effective in the long run, unless discovered by google.

    What is your main strategy? Would you share?

    Regards
    My strategy= unique content & lots of high pr dofollow backlinks (anchor text) pointing back to my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by strategic seo services View Post

      My strategy= unique content & lots of high pr dofollow backlinks (anchor text) pointing back to my site.
      Yes that has to work, agree =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Green
    Hey chukcha,

    The best method for me has been creating high quality sites with unique content and everything whitehat. And the off page i do blog comments manually and with scrapebox. Works great for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by BG48 View Post

      Hey chukcha,

      The best method for me has been creating high quality sites with unique content and everything whitehat. And the off page i do blog comments manually and with scrapebox. Works great for me.
      So you create a single site and use scrapebox to blog the **** out and get into google index fast and then create a link wheel between the sites? Or what is exactly your strategy? Would you mind to provide more details?
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by Wildnettechnologies View Post

      Technically it is all about organisation I agree, but building mini-sites requires a lot of effort and time. Would be interested in hearing what would be a standard workflow organisation for let say 5 sites with unique content interlinked together?
      Your reading my mind man. Why don't you share you idea of perfect organisation of this technique? How do you think it should be done?
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  • Profile picture of the author chukcha
    Originally Posted by kiranraj19 View Post

    Only focusing on collecting backlinks with white hat techniques
    Hi kiranraj19,

    Would you mind sharing you method for backlinks collection?

    Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    I have been running thousands of ranking campaigns in the last 12 months and have finally figured out that Google counts just about any link that you can throw at them. That's why xrumer links still work. That's also why blog comment links work. Which is also why article spinners and original content writers systems both generate positive flows of link juice. Which is also why blog networks also work. And why amr, uaw, article ranks, bmr all generate positive link juice.

    From my experience Google is far more concerned with protecting their products than they are with stopping backlinkers. So the second you start ranking sites that have nothing to do with your keyword you will see Google's wrath fall upon the entire network. So onpage optimization is the name of the game coupled with consistent link juice from as many different ip's as you can generate.

    It makes total sense if you think about it. Google would expend far more money trying to protect all four bases. Instead they focus everything on home plate (page one serps) real estate.

    Anyone have evidence to the contrary? Interested to brain storm session too.
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

      I have been running thousands of ranking campaigns in the last 12 months and have finally figured out that Google counts just about any link that you can throw at them. That's why xrumer links still work. That's also why blog comment links work. Which is also why article spinners and original content writers systems both generate positive flows of link juice. Which is also why blog networks also work. And why amr, uaw, article ranks, bmr all generate positive link juice.

      From my experience Google is far more concerned with protecting their products than they are with stopping backlinkers. So the second you start ranking sites that have nothing to do with your keyword you will see Google's wrath fall upon the entire network. So onpage optimization is the name of the game coupled with consistent link juice from as many different ip's as you can generate.

      It makes total sense if you think about it. Google would expend far more money trying to protect all four bases. Instead they focus everything on home plate (page one serps) real estate.

      Anyone have evidence to the contrary? Interested to brain storm session too.
      Hi Mattlaclear,

      I do get the same feeling that any link is better then none, but I'm sure there is a line somewhere. Some things are more effective than others and I just do not want to push my efforts in wrong direction, because once you do that you have lost control of understanding what works and why. Well that is just my opinion anyway.
      Thanks for Sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    Diversification is Key. Start with good onpage SEO and then start backlinking from as many places as you can. Having good onpage SEO will make your rise to the top much easier.
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    • Profile picture of the author chukcha
      Originally Posted by InitialEffort View Post

      Diversification is Key. Start with good onpage SEO and then start backlinking from as many places as you can. Having good onpage SEO will make your rise to the top much easier.
      Thanks man.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonnele
    All of my sites rank on the first page of Google, Bing and Yahoo and I did it using such backlinking strategies as Blog Commenting, Article Submission, Profile Linking and having .edu backlinks.

    Your strategy should always consists of getting quality backlinks from a reputable seo service that can show proof of delivering the results. In addition to obtaining backlinks it is also super important to get those backlinks indexed or they don't count.
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