Panda Update: Profile Links will kill your rankings!

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Hi, i have someting important to share with you guyz.

Profile links are not working! Now this is negative ranking factor!

But don't worry, we can still use backinks from profiles but we have to be a little bit smarter. How google knows, when this is an profile backlink or not?

It's easy - content. Profile links have only links, without content.

Solution?
Add content to your profile backlinks (Bio, about me, etc.) I was doing it all the time, i know, google loves content, and i had no problems with this Panda Update. A lot of sites goes down, because they has a lot "spam" backlinks, without content, thats mean now, without value.

If you dont believe me, try to add a lot of this spam backlinks, and watch your sites go down or even kicked from serp.

Have a nice day!
Pablo Mames
#backlinks #kill #links #panda #profile #rankings #update
  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I believe the reason spam backlinks get you sand boxed is because of the anchor text spam, not the backlinks themselves. Make 10-20% of your links with generic anchortext like www.yoursite.com or click here, additional info, etc, and I don't think you'll see the same decrease in rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    Originally Posted by PabloM90 View Post

    Hi, i have someting important to share with you guyz.

    Profile links are not working! Now this is negative ranking factor!

    But don't worry, we can still use backinks from profiles but we have to be a little bit smarter. How google knows, when this is an profile backlink or not?

    It's easy - content. Profile links have only links, without content.

    Solution?
    Add content to your profile backlinks (Bio, about me, etc.) I was doing it all the time, i know, google loves content, and i had no problems with this Panda Update. A lot of sites goes down, because they has a lot "spam" backlinks, without content, thats mean now, without value.

    If you dont believe me, try to add a lot of this spam backlinks, and watch your sites go down or even kicked from serp.

    Have a nice day!
    Pablo Mames
    Pablo,

    Your title and post make some serious blanket statements. Do you have any proof to offer?

    Specifically I mean the allegation that they can negatively affect ranking, Google usually avoind penalties for off page factors so as not to penalize someone incorrectly.
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    • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
      Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

      Pablo,
      Do you have any proof to offer?
      This is what Mike B. wrote: "Google Recently changed profiles
      into a negative ranking factor. I've seen 5-10 client sites lower
      in rankings after this update, then rise back up after the
      thousands of profiles on each site were deleted manually. Google
      sees pages with a link but no content to be webspam, and they are
      now treating links from those pages NEGATIVELY.
      "
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      • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
        Originally Posted by PabloM90 View Post

        This is what Mike B. wrote: "Google Recently changed profiles
        into a negative ranking factor. I've seen 5-10 client sites lower
        in rankings after this update, then rise back up after the
        thousands of profiles on each site were deleted manually. Google
        sees pages with a link but no content to be webspam, and they are
        now treating links from those pages NEGATIVELY.
        "

        interesting reference thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    Nice post. Google is after content and profile links (maybe forum links like mine below) are being discounted.
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    • Profile picture of the author latrice17
      I am definitely starting to think so too. My rankings have not been improving after adding profile links like they once were.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by PabloM90 View Post

    Hi, i have someting important to share with you guyz.

    Profile links are not working! Now this is negative ranking factor!

    But don't worry, we can still use backinks from profiles but we have to be a little bit smarter. How google knows, when this is an profile backlink or not?

    It's easy - content. Profile links have only links, without content.

    Solution?
    Add content to your profile backlinks (Bio, about me, etc.) I was doing it all the time, i know, google loves content, and i had no problems with this Panda Update. A lot of sites goes down, because they has a lot "spam" backlinks, without content, thats mean now, without value.

    If you dont believe me, try to add a lot of this spam backlinks, and watch your sites go down or even kicked from serp.

    Have a nice day!
    Pablo Mames

    You don't know what your talking about! :rolleyes:

    Anytime you add a large number of backlinks (doesn't matter If it's a profile) your site will bounce in the SERPs.

    It's been like this for years...
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    • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      It's been like this for years...
      Lol But google change, now its the time for profiles. Anyway, i'm not trying to say "Im smart, i know". But this is the information i get from different sources. And i will keep creating profiles with content. And i just recommend that. Anyway, backlinks from pages with content have more value than without it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Syimen
    Originally Posted by PabloM90 View Post

    Hi, i have someting important to share with you guyz.

    Profile links are not working! Now this is negative ranking factor!

    But don't worry, we can still use backinks from profiles but we have to be a little bit smarter. How google knows, when this is an profile backlink or not?

    It's easy - content. Profile links have only links, without content.

    Solution?
    Add content to your profile backlinks (Bio, about me, etc.) I was doing it all the time, i know, google loves content, and i had no problems with this Panda Update. A lot of sites goes down, because they has a lot "spam" backlinks, without content, thats mean now, without value.

    If you dont believe me, try to add a lot of this spam backlinks, and watch your sites go down or even kicked from serp.

    Have a nice day!
    Pablo Mames
    Well, then stop spam backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
    Listen - if you are gonna waste time building these type of links, don't build them to your money site.

    Profiles are great to help aid in indexing OTHER backlinks that Google may have not found yet. They are also great to help pass along the link juice to other assets. Don't get caught up in linking your money site with profile links, especially if you are MANUALLY creating them. Outsource this! Remember, work smarter not harder.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Agree with Rev.

    Profile links in large quantities should help index other links pointing to your site. Maybe even give them a little boost. But creating a handful of them manually isn't going to do much. You'd need to outsource or use software to see any results. (IMO)
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
    You are right rev, but remember, you can have different profile backlinks, with different quality, on high authority sites, do/nofollow with unique text on bio etc. So you can make your profile looks like article page On "angela's" websites you can add sometimes up to 3k caracters, you can past your article there. Ofc, from article directories have more value, but on profiles you dont have human filters checking your content. So well, you can spam a little bit
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  • Profile picture of the author gtk29
    I dont think it is negative ranking factor. Profile links may not have any value, but they should not cause any harm. Had it been so, people would create profile links of competition sites and there goes the ranking of those sites
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    I don't think profile links alone are going to be looked upon as a negative factor. It is my belief that Google just might not give as much VALUE for these links anymore but they are not useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Klemen Znidar
    It's not a negative factor.
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
    This can be true too, because in that case we could send backlinks for our competition (dont do that -.-) But google can penalize your site lets say... for too much backlinks in short time (for new domains), so we can do it fo other websites. This is pretty complicated.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Originally Posted by PabloM90 View Post

    Hi, i have someting important to share with you guyz.

    Profile links are not working! Now this is negative ranking factor!

    But don't worry, we can still use backinks from profiles but we have to be a little bit smarter. How google knows, when this is an profile backlink or not?

    It's easy - content. Profile links have only links, without content.

    Solution?
    Add content to your profile backlinks (Bio, about me, etc.) I was doing it all the time, i know, google loves content, and i had no problems with this Panda Update. A lot of sites goes down, because they has a lot "spam" backlinks, without content, thats mean now, without value.

    If you dont believe me, try to add a lot of this spam backlinks, and watch your sites go down or even kicked from serp.

    Have a nice day!
    Pablo Mames
    True to a certain extent I guess. Its not that Google hates profile links, the problem is that profile links are USUALLY made by software or my people who are technically spamming.

    Most of the profiles are just made to drop links and nothing else.

    I have seen many websites go down which were ONLY using profile links with no content. However there are many other sites which used content in the profiles and got links from other places as well.

    Those websites are steadily increasing in rankings.

    Just saying..
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    I used them for years and loved them for easy ranking but after Panda, they've had nothing but a negative affect on my rankings so as a result, I've stopped using them

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author jaywebdev
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      I used them for years and loved them for easy ranking but after Panda, they've had nothing but a negative affect on my rankings so as a result, I've stopped using them

      James
      Same here james. I'm also doing this profile links and of course putting the details as what the post thread trying to say about bio, name etc before. And I'm getting a good result before but now since PANDA came out, I didn't see any result for 1 month of doing the profile links. So decided to stop it.
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
    James, but you can still use it, but with content.

    Anyway i was thinking... If votes you a lot of people that Google dont like (0 value profiles) what can google think about you?
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  • Profile picture of the author rahmanpaidar
    If there is any negative side effects of profile backlinks, I would give up my job,
    sitting behind my laptop all days and nights, and create backlink profile for my
    customer's competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author mazdak
      Originally Posted by rahmanpaidar View Post

      If there is any negative side effects of profile backlinks, I would give up my job,
      sitting behind my laptop all days and nights, and create backlink profile for my
      customer's competitors.
      Dear Rahman,

      Nobody knows for sure, how google deal with such cases. People guess. However If you still get the results in that way, go with them.

      Goodluck!
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      • Profile picture of the author rahmanpaidar
        Originally Posted by mazdak View Post

        Dear Rahman,

        Nobody knows for sure, how google deal with such cases. People guess. However If you still get the results in that way, go with them.

        Goodluck!
        Hi Mazdak,

        There is always one rule. Negative seo side effect, Black hat seo,
        and getting penalized are not that achieved by outsite seo.
        This is enough sensical. One can not harm another site by outsite seo.

        Don't get me wrong. I believe google has dozens of spam filters which
        are ignoring spamming, low quality backlinks, and etc. But that's another
        story. Backlinks themselves can not be harmful if they are not useful.
        Let the google spam filters decide which is counted and which is not
        counted.
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
    And anyone see the difference(results) between do or nofollow profiles backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryWheeler
    One SEO project I've just inherited had its entire linking strategy based on Angela & Paul Links. The site was ranking well and according to the owners, dropped significantly in search ranking about 12 or 18 months ago to a point where their web traffic was almost zero.

    Deleting the profile links and then rebuilding their links with others, they rebounded to the top 3 pages in Google.

    With a complete redesign of their site, they rank in the top 3 for their 3 main keyword areas.

    Was it entirely profile links that caused this? Probably not, but I can certainly say having these spammed links didn't help any!
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  • Profile picture of the author redfc
    If this observation is true (-ve SERP from profile link), then its time we do more profile link for our competitors - lol. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    Originally Posted by PabloM90 View Post

    Hi, i have someting important to share with you guyz.

    Profile links are not working! Now this is negative ranking factor!

    But don't worry, we can still use backinks from profiles but we have to be a little bit smarter. How google knows, when this is an profile backlink or not?

    It's easy - content. Profile links have only links, without content.

    Solution?
    Add content to your profile backlinks (Bio, about me, etc.) I was doing it all the time, i know, google loves content, and i had no problems with this Panda Update. A lot of sites goes down, because they has a lot "spam" backlinks, without content, thats mean now, without value.

    If you dont believe me, try to add a lot of this spam backlinks, and watch your sites go down or even kicked from serp.

    Have a nice day!
    Pablo Mames
    Totally agreed. I have the same result. However, only PR1 and above worth the work, Google still count very little credit for profile links of PR0 and N/A...
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    • Profile picture of the author eguy
      To my recent experience in the past 15 days, I think profile links could be negative factors that get your site penalized for a while.

      I use profile links quite some time, when I start a campaign with hundreds of profile links build, normally after 4 to 5 days I'll see some boost in rank or at least the rank strength on the position.

      But for the past 15 days, I have two campaigns that created total about 1,800 profiles, but after some days, I lost rank (from page 2 to nowhere) for the keyword I target for. All the profile links built were blank pages with link only.

      Probably more people will report profile link result later.
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  • Profile picture of the author JustaWizard
    I'm calling BS on the OP. Period.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    I suppose my #1 rankings that are solely based on profiles must be completely imaginary.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevhanks
    I am thinking on what to do on this profile linking. You have the point guys and thank you for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author djredz
    I agree with the other guys with experience, James, etc. I've also been having a negative effect with profile links.
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