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  • Profile picture of the author Al amin
    if you are trying to rank more than 2-5 sites then you can try that out. You should also consider build my rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author danlew
    Me and my friend are having experience with Linkvana, and it's really worth the money spent to build contextual backlinks. Just give it a shot man.
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  • Profile picture of the author samual james
    I am a linkvana user although I haven't used the others mentioned here.
    Actually I am using linkvana and linktator2 together and so far I am getting good results. I mean, my sites are rising in google and I am receiving more traffic than I ever had before.
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  • Profile picture of the author quarkinc
    I have tried both Linkvana and BMR and I would say to go for linkvana if you have more than 1 sites to promote as mentioned above by Al amin and danlew, i have seen real amazing results recently and few days back we got a mail that they are providing 100 free social bookmarks as part of subscription.
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  • Profile picture of the author flaminjo
    Originally Posted by Morphius View Post

    Anyone here has any experience with their services? Does it worth the money? Advise please
    I have herad mixed reviews about it so cant tell you for sure

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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    BuildMyRank is a similar service with higher quality blogs. Highly recommended!
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    • Profile picture of the author DanielMilstein
      Originally Posted by Clyde View Post

      BuildMyRank is a similar service with higher quality blogs. Highly recommended!
      NO.. it is nothing but a sheer waste of money. They claim to have all the sites between PR2 to 6, where as initially you will get them, as you move forward, you will have PR0 or PR 1 sites/blogs to place your articles, posts etc. They claim to have a robust duplicate checker tool. But I have posted some absolute ****ty stuff also and trust me it got approved. It is nothing but a waste of money as the links coming from those blogs are very week and dont really help in increasing and ranks or traffic
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      • Profile picture of the author quarkinc
        Originally Posted by Clyde View Post

        BuildMyRank is a similar service with higher quality blogs. Highly recommended!
        Originally Posted by DanielMilstein View Post

        NO.. it is nothing but a sheer waste of money. They claim to have all the sites between PR2 to 6, where as initially you will get them, as you move forward, you will have PR0 or PR 1 sites/blogs to place your articles, posts etc. They claim to have a robust duplicate checker tool. But I have posted some absolute ****ty stuff also and trust me it got approved. It is nothing but a waste of money as the links coming from those blogs are very week and dont really help in increasing and ranks or traffic
        I second Daniel, BMR used to have high quality blogs but just till last PR udpate, if you take a look at my bmr dashboard 90% of my posts are distributed on PR 0 and PR 1 blogs and remaining on PR2 and PR 3. I think network is getting saturated due to overuse.
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        • Profile picture of the author Clyde
          Originally Posted by DanielMilstein View Post

          NO.. it is nothing but a sheer waste of money. They claim to have all the sites between PR2 to 6, where as initially you will get them, as you move forward, you will have PR0 or PR 1 sites/blogs to place your articles, posts etc. They claim to have a robust duplicate checker tool. But I have posted some absolute ****ty stuff also and trust me it got approved. It is nothing but a waste of money as the links coming from those blogs are very week and dont really help in increasing and ranks or traffic
          Originally Posted by quarkinc View Post

          I second Daniel, BMR used to have high quality blogs but just till last PR udpate, if you take a look at my bmr dashboard 90% of my posts are distributed on PR 0 and PR 1 blogs and remaining on PR2 and PR 3. I think network is getting saturated due to overuse.
          Ahh.. thanks for letting me know guys, I thought Google wouldn't catch up to them but it seems like they did.
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    • Profile picture of the author staticcaravan
      Originally Posted by eopak View Post

      Linkvana is Much Easier than BMR, in terms of the acceptance of the posts!
      And i am getting good results with Linkvana system for most of my sites, not tried BMR yet but I don't feel like giving up Linkvana considering my results with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
    I'll chime in here.

    I have been a solid high volume user of Linkvana for coming up to 3 and a half years now, and it's pretty much been the backbone of my link building over that time.

    It's a very solid service, period. While some say it's too expensive, you really do get what you pay for in this area, and it's actually a way better investment than you may think, considering that you can waste a LOT of time with other networks, and you also may not get as good quality links. (time is the most important factor really, SEO is not a fast game as it is)

    I have a network of around 240 niche blogs, that I have built up over the last 3.5 + years (the majority of them build last year, and late 2010), and pretty much all my sites are in the top 10 in google now for a large percentage of their target keywords. This is primarily due to my use of Linkvana as the main link source for my sites.

    One of the best things about LV is that Dave, the owner, and his team are actually improving and adding to the system all the time, based on what actually works. They know what works, because they actually use it themselves. Like a lot of link building services out there, Dave started LV to create a solution for his own needs in building links, and getting his own sites higher up in the SERPS.

    This is really important, because SEO is always changing, so you want to be up with the latest news and strategies, and be sure to be using it in your campaigns.

    In the last 3-6 months LV has seen a huge amount of additions, and from talking to Dave on skype, there are some even cooler things to come.

    At the moment, as you can see in the image at the link below:

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    there are already quite a few different ways of promoting your sites.

    A REALLY cool new thing they have just added, is 100 social media links to any page (with any anchor) in your account, per month.

    Dave has also been considering moving to a credits based system, so that you can choose whatever services you want, because right now, some of the other link building methods in LV are an additional fee. For me I have only ever used the blog posting, and that's been powerful enough all by itself to push my sites to the top of the SERPS for many low to mid comp keywords for multiple sites/projects.

    So anyway, if you want check out my blog on LV, which also has an extremely high value exclusive offer that I setup with Dave, then checkout my blog:

    Linkvana

    (the video post at the top of the index explains the exclusive)

    Cheers, and if you have any questions or want to chat about it, just PM me, or leave a comment on my blog.

    Best of luck,

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  • Profile picture of the author timbarker
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    I would recommend BuildMyRank than LinkVana. BMR gives better result and I believe it's the best private blog networks. And it's also cheaper than LinkVana
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    • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
      Originally Posted by timbarker View Post

      I would recommend BuildMyRank than LinkVana. BMR gives better result and I believe it's the best private blog networks. And it's also cheaper than LinkVana

      did you see the above comments on BMR?

      eg

      Originally Posted by quarkinc View Post

      I second Daniel, BMR used to have high quality blogs but just till last PR udpate, if you take a look at my bmr dashboard 90% of my posts are distributed on PR 0 and PR 1 blogs and remaining on PR2 and PR 3. I think network is getting saturated due to overuse.


      I have never used BMR, but from what I have heard recently, including the above comment from Daniel and quarkinc, there network has lost a lot of it's power. Great, it's cheaper, but if it doesn't actually work as well, then it's not really cheaper at all, AND it's wasting time you could be getting more powerful links, rankinigs, and revenue from your sites. So it's a bit of a bad mentality to get into in my opinion. Sure, sometimes cheaper things are better value, but I would be careful with that kind of approach when it comes to link building.

      Just my 2c
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  • I have to say, as a member of Linkvana since August 2008 now, I am very impressed with the way that LV is staying on top of the game, in terms of updates, and keeping their service top of the game in terms of not only the quality of their network, but also the new additions to their link building options, which you can take advantage of as a member.

    Part of the reason that I mention this, is because if you have been to this site recently in the past, you will have noticed that I took down the 500 posts offer, for anyone who signs up to Linkvana through this site. This is because, while the posts that I was offering where very high quality, they were obviously not 100% unique, and were SIMILAR in nature to spun content. While I felt that my content was good, and I was seeing verification of this in the way it was being indexed by G and the other search engines, Linkvana have made it clear to me that any sort of content like this, no matter how high quality, will not be allowed onto their network.

    While this is obviously a spanner in my works, and to be honest a bit frustrating, I totally agree with LV when it comes down to it. We want to make sure that the quality of LV's network stays as good as it is. As far as the content goes, well im still trying to figure out a way to offer something REALLY valuable to you guys who want to sign up and get a bonus, apart from just the normal 25 free posts bonus that LV offers for signing up.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
      Everythingbranded,

      Why just post content that I had on my blog, and not add any value at all to this thread?

      FFS! this sort of thing bugs the £%£" out of me...

      come up with your own original thoughts and ideas to add to this forum, Use your own BRAIN! instead of just trying to increase your post count by posting other peoples content and adding completely 0 value.

      People like this should be banned from WF

      Originally Posted by Everythingbranded View Post

      I have to say, as a member of Linkvana since August 2008 now, I am very impressed with the way that LV is staying on top of the game, in terms of updates, and keeping their service top of the game in terms of not only the quality of their network, but also the new additions to their link building options, which you can take advantage of as a member.

      Part of the reason that I mention this, is because if you have been to this site recently in the past, you will have noticed that I took down the 500 posts offer, for anyone who signs up to Linkvana through this site. This is because, while the posts that I was offering where very high quality, they were obviously not 100% unique, and were SIMILAR in nature to spun content. While I felt that my content was good, and I was seeing verification of this in the way it was being indexed by G and the other search engines, Linkvana have made it clear to me that any sort of content like this, no matter how high quality, will not be allowed onto their network.

      While this is obviously a spanner in my works, and to be honest a bit frustrating, I totally agree with LV when it comes down to it. We want to make sure that the quality of LV's network stays as good as it is. As far as the content goes, well im still trying to figure out a way to offer something REALLY valuable to you guys who want to sign up and get a bonus, apart from just the normal 25 free posts bonus that LV offers for signing up.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    I'm using BMR now, but there are a few Fiverr gigs offering Linkvana posting services. If you give them 5 articles, they'll post them via their Linkvana account. I'm not sure if this is against Linkvana's TOS, but it may be an option for those that want to try the service without committing to $150 a month. I'm not sure if Linkvana offers a free trial like BMR.

    So far I like BMR, I've only submitted 38 posts. I've gotten (1) PR0, (17) PR1, (13) PR2, (3) PR3 and (4) PR4. I've heard BMR is all random, so some people who are luckier than me may get a huge amount of PR4 and less PR1s. One of the PR1 blogs my link was posted on went down to PR0. I'm going to stick with BMR for a while; it's kind of fun to submit posts and see which PR you are going to get. Like a prize in a box of cracker jacks!
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  • Profile picture of the author danlew
    The difference between Linkvana and BMR is that Linkvana accepts posts faster than BMR. I've experience used them both, but for originality and quality I would choose BMR. As of now, my friend is using Linkvana for himself and for his client.
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    • Profile picture of the author quarkinc
      Originally Posted by danlew View Post

      The difference between Linkvana and BMR is that Linkvana accepts posts faster than BMR. I've experience used them both, but for originality and quality I would choose BMR. As of now, my friend is using Linkvana for himself and for his client.
      I feel quality wise both are similar with not much difference but what results i have seen recently from BMR based on that i can say that since its cheaper in cost so it has attracted lot of IM'ers and thus it's network is getting bit saturated and overused. so you can opt for anyone of them whatever suits you best.
      Moreover, i feel if you have more than 2-5 domains to promote then linkvana is a better option but if you have just 1-2 domains then bmr.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
        Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Linkvana REMOVE some of your links if you cancel the service? I know BMR does not do that.
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        • Profile picture of the author quarkinc
          Originally Posted by Gail_Curran View Post

          Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Linkvana REMOVE some of your links if you cancel the service? I know BMR does not do that.
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          I don't think they will remove anybody's link until and unless somebody is spamming their network with junk, spun content etc., its quite obvious that every network protects their sites and what content is going live on them including bmr and linkvana. some other network like seolinkvine etc they openly accept spun content so only they might not be having issues with such cases.
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        • Profile picture of the author thelionz
          Originally Posted by Gail_Curran View Post

          Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Linkvana REMOVE some of your links if you cancel the service? I know BMR does not do that.
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          I recently joined Linkvana again.... Used it a year earlier as well.... and they do not remove the posts and links in case you cancel the service.. thatis for sure... They recently started the social media promotion as well which is giving my seo campaign quite a boost....
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I used LV in the past and I wont touch it again.

    A whole bunch of their blogs were deindexed by Google, which resulted in the staff of LV scrambling desperately in order to "repost" links.

    I grew suspicious when I couldnt find any of my posts, then when I did find some, they were just links, without the text.

    Denial finally ended in admittance from a representative of LV, informing me of the Google deindex.

    I wasnt annoyed at the deindexing of my backlinks/posts, but moreso the way they handled it.

    Quite unprofessional really.

    As for BMR, havent used it *yet*
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  • Profile picture of the author wlivegeorge
    There are too many different comments. I think you should have a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Morphius
    A lot of conflict info :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Yeeee Ha
    I am using Linkvana for quite some time and really impressed with the service. I've used Linkvana to consistently rank my sites very well in serps. I can certainly vouch for these guys. If you find the monthly fee too steep then I'd suggest checking out this I will write 4 unique posts and submit it to my Linkvana account for your chosen keyword for $5 on fiverr.com
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    BMR is by far the most powerful. For someone who submits close to 100 posts a day to all the major networks, BMR is the bees knees. For the handful of people giving bad reviews with it, you are definitely doin something wrong. I can show you rankings of THE most competitive terms solely using BMR and ALN. BMR games the algo extremely well through the high powered domains they buy and their secondary link building. The constant stream of totally unique content keeps every page of every blog crawled and indexed which is pretty much the most important aspect of quality link building.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
      Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

      BMR is by far the most powerful. For someone who submits close to 100 posts a day to all the major networks, BMR is the bees knees. For the handful of people giving bad reviews with it, you are definitely doin something wrong. I can show you rankings of THE most competitive terms solely using BMR and ALN. BMR games the algo extremely well through the high powered domains they buy and their secondary link building. The constant stream of totally unique content keeps every page of every blog crawled and indexed which is pretty much the most important aspect of quality link building.

      Interesting, have you been with them for long?

      It's possible you are getting your posts on their "better" sites, I know that in LV, you get first dibs on older higher PR domains when you have been around for quite a while. Not to say that new members still won't get good PR links.

      I agree that it's interesting how many people say both services are great, or terrible. All I can say is that LV has been great for me, and as I said in my earlier post, pretty much the backbone of my SEO for a fairly large number of sites for several years now.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

      BMR is by far the most powerful. For someone who submits close to 100 posts a day to all the major networks, BMR is the bees knees. For the handful of people giving bad reviews with it, you are definitely doin something wrong. I can show you rankings of THE most competitive terms solely using BMR and ALN. BMR games the algo extremely well through the high powered domains they buy and their secondary link building. The constant stream of totally unique content keeps every page of every blog crawled and indexed which is pretty much the most important aspect of quality link building.
      Blaming the victim is quite a ploy. If someone didn't get results from BMR, they should blame BMR and stop paying them.

      There's nothing 'incredibly powerful' about blog posts. This is true whether they are on splogs, or dropped domains, or even in 'big time blogs.' Links are links.

      The problem with splogs is, many of their interior pages get de-indexed all the time. Your links will be on some of these pages and will also be de-indexed.

      As more people use blog networks, Google will make more changes to their algo to de-index more pages faster. Black hat SEO is a cat and mouse game, nothing more. If you get too comfortable with your tactics, you'll be in for a major disappointment when the adjustment comes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Praney Behl
    I thing Blog Networks do work its just how they do it.. There is a new and very uniques one coming soon there are rumours I have heard!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dex88
    I have used both BMR and Linkvana... both actually worked great for me... But i guess it really depends on the keywords that you are targeting....

    and yes.. BMR is a bit more strict with regards to articles as compared to linkvana
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      • Profile picture of the author jonson
        It is basically a blog network of about 500 blogs that all have high PR (page rank). What is PR? Every website is given a rank of authority by Google from 0-10. 0 being a brand new website and 10 given to websites like Google.com that have millions of pages and users per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Praney Behl
    Doesn't matter how many sites are there is the blog network or how many sites you are trying to promote. they can be of real help for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ash R
    You can run a test to decide which network you should use.

    Having said that, you'll find that the consensus is that LV is pretty bad in terms of ROI. It's a lot of money each month, with very little results.

    BMR used to be good until a bunch of my articles are now on PR0 and PR1 sites.

    I started using vendors of high PR private networks - better value and better rankings; since it's private, PR is more stable, sites less spammed, and rankings end up being much better. And then I built my own high PR network, but admittedly building your own network can be expensive initially.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
      Originally Posted by Ash R View Post

      Having said that, you'll find that the consensus is that LV is pretty bad in terms of ROI. It's a lot of money each month, with very little results.
      I think the ROI of linkvana is great, you just have to actually be using the service for as many sites as possible.

      Having a network of over 200 niche sites, the ROI of using LV for me is riduculously good.
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      • Profile picture of the author quarkinc
        Originally Posted by Ash R View Post

        You can run a test to decide which network you should use.

        Having said that, you'll find that the consensus is that LV is pretty bad in terms of ROI. It's a lot of money each month, with very little results.

        BMR used to be good until a bunch of my articles are now on PR0 and PR1 sites.

        I started using vendors of high PR private networks - better value and better rankings; since it's private, PR is more stable, sites less spammed, and rankings end up being much better. And then I built my own high PR network, but admittedly building your own network can be expensive initially.
        Originally Posted by IM nice guy View Post

        I think the ROI of linkvana is great, you just have to actually be using the service for as many sites as possible.

        Having a network of over 200 niche sites, the ROI of using LV for me is riduculously good.

        @Ash
        Just wondering, owning a personal private PR network would have costed me around $100-200 atleast to setup each PR site in network with unique C class IP and if I have 50 sites in my network then the cost comes around $5000-$10000 if my estimations are not wrong. So In my opinion going with linkvana will provide me better ROI as i need to spend just $147 a month to get access to their large PR network and i can promote unlimited number of domains with them.
        I am not very big fan of such services but ROI wise linkvana is better if you have more than 3-5 domains to promote as they allow unlimited domain promotion and BMR has different pricing plans for 5,10,20 domains

        I was a user of BMR but as mentioned earlier in this thread most of my articles were posted on PR0,1 blogs and my sites ranking didn't show any significant improvements so it has turned out to be a bad investment for me. Looks like it happened with most of us and network was hit by latest panda and PR updates and they are having majority of PR0 and PR 1 domains now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dex88
    I have used Linkvana in the past... and it definitely did well for me... But you really have to consider the keywords that you should be promoting. Chances are your competitors may be using this same service as well.

    You might also want to try BMR (buildmyrank)
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    I'm currently using BMR and I do like them because of their high standards. I agree that the majority of my posts go on low PR blogs. Out of 65 posts, I've only gotten one PR5, so I'm not sure how many PR5 blogs are in their network or if I'm just very unlucky.

    Does Linkvana have higher PR blogs in their network? Also, how many domains and posts per day does Linkvana offer for $147 a month?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Levine
    From the looks of this thread BMR seems to be the winner by a hair.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Kringas
      Originally Posted by fotoko View Post

      From the looks of this thread BMR seems to be the winner by a hair.
      People on this forum have been complaining about bmr's sites getting deindexed because the network was getting overused - now, one has to be suspicious of why bmr would decide to close down new memberships indefinitely in order to grow their network.
      I think the Big G is all over that network lately making it less effective.
      I guess that's what happens to a good network that is priced so low, too many people jump on board, the kiss of death in SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author staticcaravan
    Great discussion,
    so here are my observation from past experience and trending consensus in this thread
    Linkvana worked very well till mid 2011 and then BMR provided fresh network from beginning 2011 to Nov 2011 at cheaper price so it attracted most of low and mid budget IM'ers that resulted in overuse of network by now and we can see from above comments that BMR network quality is going down and they have lost their effectiveness and looks like their network was hit by last pr update as most of user complaining about content getting posted on low PR sites.
    So i feel personally that people tend to stay away from linkvana saying it as costly network so it is not used(spammed) by many hence it is more virgin network and that's why it can be effective too and people are getting results too.I think its human tendency to be impulsive and restless when we are putting more cash. so far i had kept my calm and linkvana worked great for me and they are in market since 2007 so probably they know how it works moreover they keep updating their system and network, last week i got a mail from them about their new social promotion launch as free add-on to their regular subscription.
    at the end you can test out any of the services, try whichever works for you the best and stick to it and have patience, it's internet marketing
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    • Profile picture of the author quarkinc
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      I'm currently using BMR and I do like them because of their high standards. I agree that the majority of my posts go on low PR blogs. Out of 65 posts, I've only gotten one PR5, so I'm not sure how many PR5 blogs are in their network or if I'm just very unlucky.

      Does Linkvana have higher PR blogs in their network? Also, how many domains and posts per day does Linkvana offer for $147 a month?
      its $147 for unlimited domains and post

      Originally Posted by fotoko View Post

      From the looks of this thread BMR seems to be the winner by a hair.
      LOL hair, it looks more like a tie
      can anyone subscribe to both and test for tiebreaker by targeting same keyword on 2 domains registered on same day
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    I agree that BMR has gone downhill lately, and probably because it's more popular now than ever. I currently have over 25% of my posts on sites that are now PR0, and another 25% are on PR1 - and many of those sites are completely deindexed from Google.

    I can't speak for Linkvana, but I don't know if the 3x cost is worth it.
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

      I agree that BMR has gone downhill lately, and probably because it's more popular now than ever. I currently have over 25% of my posts on sites that are now PR0, and another 25% are on PR1 - and many of those sites are completely deindexed from Google.

      I can't speak for Linkvana, but I don't know if the 3x cost is worth it.
      Wow, that's horrible! How do you know if one of their blogs gets deindexed? That's tough to hear because BMR requires a good financial investment to use. The price of their service is reasonable, but the posts have to be very good quality or they'll get rejected. If you don't want to write your own, it can cost a lot of money to buy the posts. And it's actually kind of challenging to find a good BMR writer. I've hired about 12 so far and only 1 was good. I had to completely edit and re-write all of the other posts because I wouldn't want my website links on garbage like that.

      Still, if Linkvana accepts spun and bad quality posts, I'd be worried that their blogs may be full of spam.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
        Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

        Wow, that's horrible! How do you know if one of their blogs gets deindexed? That's tough to hear because BMR requires a good financial investment to use. The price of their service is reasonable, but the posts have to be very good quality or they'll get rejected. If you don't want to write your own, it can cost a lot of money to buy the posts. And it's actually kind of challenging to find a good BMR writer. I've hired about 12 so far and only 1 was good. I had to completely edit and re-write all of the other posts because I wouldn't want my website links on garbage like that.
        I used Scrapebox index checker. Here's a sample of 239 posts from August 2011, the report date being January 31, 2012. This is a listing of deindexed domains, not posts; the domains that these posts are on are completely deindexed.



        49/239 BMR domains completely deindexed from Google, or 20%. On top of this figure, some of the posts themselves are deindexed although their domains are still intact. Considering the costs involved with using BMR (money and/or time) it makes you think twice about using the service.

        Even worse: of the 190 domains still indexed, 45 are now PR0 and 54 are PR1.
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          Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

          I used Scrapebox index checker. Here's a sample of 239 posts from August 2011, the report date being January 31, 2012. This is a listing of deindexed domains, not posts; the domains that these posts are on are completely deindexed.



          49/239 BMR domains completely deindexed from Google, or 20%. On top of this figure, some of the posts themselves are deindexed although their domains are still intact. Considering the costs involved with using BMR (money and/or time) it makes you think twice about using the service.

          Even worse: of the 190 domains still indexed, 45 are now PR0 and 54 are PR1.
          Interesting post, Matt. It confirms what people are saying. It also points out the big problem with private blog networks. Deindexed pages no longer count and neither do the links on them.

          If you've been sitting there writing articles for months (or worse yet paying another punter to do it), this type of deindexing can be gut-wrenching.
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          Originally Posted by Matt Ward View Post

          I used Scrapebox index checker. Here's a sample of 239 posts from August 2011, the report date being January 31, 2012. This is a listing of deindexed domains, not posts; the domains that these posts are on are completely deindexed.



          49/239 BMR domains completely deindexed from Google, or 20%. On top of this figure, some of the posts themselves are deindexed although their domains are still intact. Considering the costs involved with using BMR (money and/or time) it makes you think twice about using the service.

          Even worse: of the 190 domains still indexed, 45 are now PR0 and 54 are PR1.
          That is exactly the reason why I dont use BMR or other networks that only accept unique content. Paying $0.50 for a link (the content costs at least that, 150 word post) + the monthly membership for links that don't stick. Then I rather place a couple more articles to make up for the quality difference but that way it remains a lot cheaper and less worries.
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  • Profile picture of the author quarkinc
    Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

    Wow, that's horrible! How do you know if one of their blogs gets deindexed? That's tough to hear because BMR requires a good financial investment to use. The price of their service is reasonable, but the posts have to be very good quality or they'll get rejected. If you don't want to write your own, it can cost a lot of money to buy the posts. And it's actually kind of challenging to find a good BMR writer. I've hired about 12 so far and only 1 was good. I had to completely edit and re-write all of the other posts because I wouldn't want my website links on garbage like that.

    Still, if Linkvana accepts spun and bad quality posts, I'd be worried that their blogs may be full of spam.
    I think they do have filters and checks to check posts before it is published on their network and as mentioned in this thread by Everythingbranded here that
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    I was offering where very high quality, they were obviously not 100%  unique, and were SIMILAR in nature to spun content. While I felt that my  content was good, and I was seeing verification of this in the way it  was being indexed by G and the other search engines, Linkvana have made  it clear to me that any sort of content like this, no matter how high  quality, will not be allowed onto their network.
    So like any other quality network they are trying to maintain decent network, so i think its good
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      Originally Posted by quarkinc View Post

      I think they do have filters and checks to check posts before it is published on their network and as mentioned in this thread by Everythingbranded here that
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      I was offering where very high quality, they were obviously not 100%  unique, and were SIMILAR in nature to spun content. While I felt that my  content was good, and I was seeing verification of this in the way it  was being indexed by G and the other search engines, Linkvana have made  it clear to me that any sort of content like this, no matter how high  quality, will not be allowed onto their network.
      So like any other quality network they are trying to maintain decent network, so i think its good
      Thanks, I don't know where I read that Linkvana accepted spun content, but I guess it's not true at all. I may consider using them now if this is the case.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ash R
    I agree that the financial investment of setting up your own high PR network isn't worth it to most people. However, between BMR and LV you'll find that despite the 20% deindexed domains and 50% PR0& PR1 domains, BMR still has better stats in terms of domain authority and rankings than LV.

    I guess if you're limiting your options to either BMR or LV then it might appear to be a close tie. (Although personally I think BMR is better).

    However, a better option for me, before I built my own network, was to find folks who owned their own network and pay for posting. This is what the big guys do (literally - they approach bloggers for a post with a link in it). Anyway, the first "unknown" private network I used had a handful of PR2 and PR3 sites and the results I got were much better than the kind you get from these publicly known networks. Plus, because they're privately owned, the owners put a lot more effort into them.

    There are a couple of these "tiny, unknown" networks around and they're not overly expensive to use. I may open up my own network for a few posts in the future, but it will be more of a "guaranteed rankings service" rather than a blog posting service. However, I'm not too sure of this yet, since obviously network security etc is a big concern to me.

    Another alternative to LinkVana I've seen is Authority Links Network, but I've been using it for a few months now and the results (for me) haven't been worth mentioning. But it's certainly cheap to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author kentutz
    In regards to the different PR sites on BMR that accepts the posts, shouldn't that have some relation to the quality of the post? ie. better post have better chance landing on higher PR blog sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ash R
    kentutz, BMR allocates posts randomly. All posts you submit to their network have to be high quality.
    The main cost with BMR is not the monthly subscription fee, it's the cost of unique posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Hoffman
    I would just stick with BMR they rock and everyone knows it
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    Hi hello... hope you share some more ideas thanks ....
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