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12 years ago

Duplicate content is content that appears on the same site more than once.

You seem to be talking about content syndication. If you're going to syndicate your article content I suggest you link back to the original article on your site.

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Christine Brady

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rondo

Duplicate content is content that appears on the same site more than once.

You seem to be talking about content syndication. If you're going to syndicate your article content I suggest you link back to the original article on your site.

Andrew

Exactly! No need to spin or change or do anything to your article - just post on your site, then post to Squidoo after it's indexed on your site.

No duplicate content issue here -

Hope that answers your question!

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by plopster

Just have the courtesy to link back to the original and it will be fine

Originally Posted by Christine Brady

just post on your site, then post to Squidoo after it's indexed on your site.

The ceaseless misinformation and misguided advice on this subject, in thread after thread after thread, is just breathtaking.

I tried. I give in.
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NACAdam 12 years ago

I am getting spun content accepted all the time here is what to focus on ... Dont spin the headlines .. Change the headlines . Completely switch out the first sentence in the first paragraph and then spin your content thoroughly also ezinearticles.com is going to be the site that rejects the most I think most of the other article directories accept even unspun duplicate content I havent had problems just with ezinearticles.com
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kislany

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Christine Brady

Exactly! No need to spin or change or do anything to your article - just post on your site, then post to Squidoo after it's indexed on your site.

No duplicate content issue here -

Hope that answers your question!

Really? Seriously? No wonder newbies come back after having tried it saying that 'WF members told me to do so but it didn't work and Squidoo locked my lenses'.
Squidoo ONLY accepts unique content. No duplicate content, no spun content. Don't treat Squidoo as a spam fountain and it will not throw back dirty water at you.

Q: I write a lot of articles elsewhere, and I want to post them on Squidoo too. May I?
A: Careful here. Squidoo is a place for original content. That means it's not recycled in several places, verbatim, around the web. Surely since it's your content you can link it all together, but please remember to excerpt yourself. Don't post an entire article of yours here AND somewhere else. Rather, use your lens to excerpt your favorite parts of your own article, maybe share a little more background behind it, add something that is truly unique to the lens only, and have fun.

Original vs. Unoriginal Content: How to tell the difference

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plopster

12 years ago

There is nothing wrong with duplicate content - you see it all the time on almost every site you google. Just have the courtesy to link back to the original and it will be fine

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sureshots

12 years ago

Unique Quality content wins every time! Duplicate content will come back to haunt you. The only people that are not effected by duplicate content are the people with huge lists, huge membership sites, or a steady stream of viral web traffic. All aspiring Internet marketers need to understand that Google is at war with useless backlinks. One of the reasons Google keeps changing it's algorithm to stop backlink farms and duplicate content from taking over their search engine.

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SeanSupplee

12 years ago

I still can't believe after all these years this still keeps coming up. It's simple. Unique content wins every time. Take the extra 5 minutes and write another article.

If you post the same article to more then one site only one is going to get indexed and if there are to many versions of it well then its going to rank lower or perhaps not at all.

Just go with unique and don't get caught up in all the garbage

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CDarklock

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mattdrish

I am wondering if I can just post my articles word-for-word directly to my Squidoo.

No. You have to translate your articles into Swedish, then have a native Japanese speaker transcribe them back into English.

When you get the result, stick it in your ears and shout "BAZINGA" before submitting it to Squidoo.

Otherwise they will reject your articles and make you eat bugs.

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thebitbotdotcom

12 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

No. You have to translate your articles into Swedish, then have a native Japanese speaker transcribe them back into English.

When you get the result, stick it in your ears and shout "BAZINGA" before submitting it to Squidoo.

Otherwise they will reject your articles and make you eat bugs.

Now that surprises me. I heard rumors about having to shout BAZINGA, but I thought for sure they would end up being just rumors.

Well then, screw THAT...I ain't eatin' bugs again...they're ALL sour!

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Jasonsc

12 years ago

Think long term. Google is cracking down on all of these "cheap" tactics like simply copy pasting content all over the place for backlinks.

In my opinion you should spin really really thoroughly when posting content to different article directories or other websites and also never use the content from your main website for backlink articles. You want the content on your website to be entirely unique.

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mattdrish

12 years ago

Thanks for all of the responses, but let me try to clear this up for myself. If I am posting my own articles from my website onto my own Squidoo page and linking back to the original. IS THAT DUPLICATE CONTENT? Or is duplicate content simply submitting the same article to multiple sources? Is having my own article twice on my own website duplicate content?

Maybe one of you could do a quick WHAT IS and WHAT ISN'T duplicate content post please? what I WILL be PENALIZED for, and what I WON'T be PENALIZED for?

Now based on the comments above that insist I rewrite the article ANYWAYS, are you still speaking from the perspective of syndication as Rondo so gracefully put it? Thanks.

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sureshots

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mattdrish

Thanks for all of the responses, but let me try to clear this up for myself. If I am posting my own articles from my website onto my own Squidoo page and linking back to the original. IS THAT DUPLICATE CONTENT? Or is duplicate content simply submitting the same article to multiple sources? Is having my own article twice on my own website duplicate content?

Maybe one of you could do a quick WHAT IS and WHAT ISN'T duplicate content post please? what I WILL be PENALIZED for, and what I WON'T be PENALIZED for?

Now based on the comments above that insist I rewrite the article ANYWAYS, are you still speaking from the perspective of syndication as Rondo so gracefully put it? Thanks.

Any article your write and post anywhere has to be unique! 250 - 400 word articles aren't that hard to write and if it is hard to write pay someone to do it for you. What I'll typically do is I'll write the unique content on my blog or website and then I'll pay a few people to write unique 250 - 300 word articles
on other sites. The risk to doing this however is that you're spending money before you make any money. Hope this helps!

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CDarklock 12 years ago

Originally Posted by mattdrish

Maybe one of you could give an opinion

1. Fixed that for you

2. Make up your damn mind

3. There is no duplicate content penalty
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Steven Fullman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mattdrish

Thanks for all of the responses, but let me try to clear this up for myself. If I am posting my own articles from my website onto my own Squidoo page and linking back to the original. IS THAT DUPLICATE CONTENT? Or is duplicate content simply submitting the same article to multiple sources? Is having my own article twice on my own website duplicate content?

Maybe one of you could do a quick WHAT IS and WHAT ISN'T duplicate content post please? what I WILL be PENALIZED for, and what I WON'T be PENALIZED for?

Now based on the comments above that insist I rewrite the article ANYWAYS, are you still speaking from the perspective of syndication as Rondo so gracefully put it? Thanks.

OK

DUPLICATE CONTENT means:

HAVING THE SAME CONTENT PUBLISHED MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE SAME DOMAIN.

Therefore:

You CAN post the SAME article on Squidoo, without alteration (this is called also called syndication).

Whether you'll get double points for it is unknown, but you WONT be penalized for doing so.

Good enough?

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mattdrish

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

OK

DUPLICATE CONTENT means:

HAVING THE SAME CONTENT PUBLISHED MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE SAME DOMAIN.

Therefore:

You CAN post the SAME article on Squidoo, without alteration (this is called also called syndication).

Whether you'll get double points for it is unknown, but you WONT be penalized for doing so.

Good enough?

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I suppose what I am going to take away from all of these comments is that syndicated content is not duplicate content and that I will not be penalized for it. However, based on what Sureshots said, the "better safe than sorry" method may be more appropriate.

Now, Steven Fullman you said that I may not "get double points" for syndication, so I suppose my final question for this thread would be "do I get double points if I spin the article as opposed to syndicating?" No, I won't be penalized for reposting my article, but would it be MORE BENEFICIAL to spin it?

Thanks for all of the quick responses.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Therefore:

You CAN post the SAME article on Squidoo, without alteration (this is called also called syndication).

However many times this is repeated, and however forcefully it's expressed, it remains incorrect.

You may not submit to Squidoo an article which has previously been published on your own site. Try it, and see how long your lens survives. :rolleyes:

Squidoo : Originality Pact

Squidoo is not an article directory!

That's just one of the many reasons why you won't find many successful article marketers using Squidoo. Some of the others are touched on in this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...y-website.html

Originally Posted by mattdrish

based on what Sureshots said, the "better safe than sorry" method may be more appropriate.

If I were you, I'd be selective about which posts in this thread I allowed to guide me.

Some of the participants here have already misled themselves: there's not much to gain by letting them mislead others, too.

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JohnMcCabe

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mattdrish

Thanks for all of the responses, but let me try to clear this up for myself. If I am posting my own articles from my website onto my own Squidoo page and linking back to the original. IS THAT DUPLICATE CONTENT? Or is duplicate content simply submitting the same article to multiple sources? Is having my own article twice on my own website duplicate content?

Maybe one of you could do a quick WHAT IS and WHAT ISN'T duplicate content post please? what I WILL be PENALIZED for, and what I WON'T be PENALIZED for?

Now based on the comments above that insist I rewrite the article ANYWAYS, are you still speaking from the perspective of syndication as Rondo so gracefully put it? Thanks.

Posting your own original articles on another site (leaving Squidoo out of the equation for the moment) is not duplicate content.

Submitting the same content to multiple sites is not duplicate content.

Having your own article more than once on your own website is duplicate content. Whether you get penalized for it or not depends on whether Google believes you are trying to game the rankings or not.

For example, many blogs have the same article under many different URLs - the post itself, a category link, calendar link, archive link, various tag links, etc. - all pointing to the same collection of sentences (the article). You will not be penalized for this form of duplicate content. SEs will choose one version to display for any given search, which may not be the version you would prefer. There are steps you can take to mitigate this problem, and G has some good answers in their help sections.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

However many times this is repeated, and however forcefully it's expressed, it remains incorrect.

You may not submit to Squidoo an article which has previously been published on your own site. Try it, and see how long your lens survives. :rolleyes:

Squidoo : Originality Pact

Squidoo is not an article directory!

Alexa, I read that Originality Pact, and I found nothing that forbid posting one's own articles on a lens. If the lens is populated with the owner's original articles, along with other content, and the owner links back to that source (on their own site), it appears to conform to what the pact says.

The key is to not treat Squidoo like an article dump. Add additional commentary. Add excerpts and links to other related quality content. And so on. In other words, honor the spirit of the pact.

Even IF there were a "duplicate content penalty" (and there is not), I believe that Squidoo might have been the exception to the rule. If you look at most well-developed lenses, they are basically very long single pages with lots of content modules. So any given article, especially those in the 250-400 word filler category, would represent a fairly small percentage of the total content.

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Kay King

12 years ago

I suppose what I am going to take away from all of these comments is that syndicated content is not duplicate content and that I will not be penalized for it. However, based on what Sureshots said, the "better safe than sorry" method may be more appropriate.

That is totally ridiculous. If you have a question get the answer - once your have the answer, go with it.

The "better safe than sorry" is nothing more than "too lazy to learn the facts and use them". That attitude of indecision is what motivates people to keep asking the SAME question week after week.

What is the point of asking a question if you are determined to ignore the answer? What's the point of providing factual answers to people who are unable to grasp the concept?

People post articles on Squidoo (syndication) with no problem - it's Hubpages that will close you down if you don't use unique content. That's the guidelines for hubs but not for Squidoo.

A little common sense is in order in syndicating articles. I've seen people post an article in a directory that links to the SAME article on their site that links to the SAME article on a Squidoo lens. You may be proud of your article - but does anyone want to read it three times?

If you want to know editorial guidelines of Squidoo or a directory or Hubpages - read those terms on the site you plan to use.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Alexa, I read that Originality Pact, and I found nothing that forbid posting one's own articles on a lens.

Granted, John - it doesn't expressly say that, "in terms".

Nevertheless, I respectfully submit that Squidoo's overall attitude to the question of "previously published content" is actually fairly clear? They're saying they prefer not to have it, aren't they? :confused:

Judging by other threads here on this subject, there've certainly been plenty of people who've had problems after pasting their articles into their lenses.

(It may possibly even be one of the issues about which Squidoo is inconsistent and idiosyncratic in the interpretation of its own policies? I perhaps shouldn't assume that, though, as I haven't used them for the last 2 years now, since judging that they were giving me absolutely nothing I couldn't get elsewhere, on my own, without needing to worry about their TOS and policies).

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

The key is to not treat Squidoo like an article dump. Add additional commentary. Add excerpts and links to other related quality content. And so on. In other words, honor the spirit of the pact.

Yes; this makes good sense, of course.

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JohnMcCabe

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Granted, John - it doesn't expressly say that, "in terms".

Nevertheless, I respectfully submit that Squidoo's overall attitude to the question of "previously published content" is actually fairly clear? They're saying they prefer not to have it, aren't they? :confused:

Maybe it's the way I'm reading things these days. Been reading multiple legal docs, and get into the habit of parsing every word.

What I got out of it is that, if you are going to use previously published content, that you both acknowledge that it's appeared elsewhere by citing the source and add to it by offering criticism/review and commentary.

Back when I was more active with Squidoo, I often added a simple "Source: [link]" line at the end of syndicated content. I'm not sure anyone ever clicked those. As Kay said, who wants to read the same article three times?

Like you, I found that I could get better bang for the buck elsewhere, so I did.

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rondo

12 years ago

Matt ideally you would do a bit of both:

Syndicating and linking back to the original article should boost the ranking of the original article on your site.

Rewriting for other sites will rank for other terms and phrases.

(As for Squidoo I have no idea what their rules are regarding syndicating or spinning. I haven't used them for years)

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drmani

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mattdrish

Is duplicate content really a problem in this case? is there a definitive answer? If there is any drawback to posting my articles without spinning them, then I would like to know. Thanks.

This may help:

Duplicate content - Webmaster Tools Help

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Zomman

12 years ago

There is not a big problem with duplicate content as far as it is 'just' a couple of copies. A kind of blackhat method to create 'original copy' for your site is 'steal' fresh content from others blog, put it to your own and index it faster than theirs...

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rooze

12 years ago

Duplicate content is not content which only exists on one domain, it can exist across multiple domains.

There isn't a solid way for Google to differentiate between 'duplicate' and 'syndicated' so they're largely treated in the same way, despite all the claims to the contrary around here.

Duplicate Penalty.
As the author of post #18 correctly states, there is no 'penalty' so long as you're not caught using some strategy to try and manipulate your rankings. But be careful, you might think you're doing an OK thing whereas you might be inviting a slap from Google (you may or may not care about a Google slap, depending on whatever cloak you're hiding behind).

However - and it's a big however - we get preoccupied with the idea of there being a 'penalty' when we should really be thinking, "is there a gain".

You need to figure out what you're doing and what your intended goal is.

If you're submitting the same content to multiple sites with the hope of acquiring juice from backlinks, it is unlikely that you'll gain any juice, regardless of the PR of the page if you're publishing content which already exists as an identical entity elsewhere. Google is not stupid, contrary to some of its actions. Why would it send 'benefit' via link juice from syndicated content?

Most of the article syndicators will admit to not having much dependance on Google. Yet, with all of their syndicated work in the field, and the plethora of diverse backlinks, you might expect their websites to have high SERP's? The reason many do not is that the value of the link coming from their syndication partner is low, maybe zero, due to the content having already been established as originating elsewhere.

This (perhaps subconsciously) is why spinners come into the game. If the article is classed as original, it has more chance of passing along some link juice than the original article (the source of the spun content) which was used for the original syndication effort. Of course 'spinning' is frowned upon and its relevance downplayed by our syndicators, because they dismiss the relevance of the backlink in the first instance! (the rules of the Internet redefined to comply with an agenda).

Think about what you're trying to achieve, put together a plan, then research what you're about to do to determine if it's going to be a fruitful course of action or a complete waste of your time.

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Kay King 12 years ago

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The true nature of use of Bazinga is to identify yourself to others as a follower of Big Bang Theory.

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12 years ago

I would rather identify as a follower of the IT crowd. Have you tried turning it off and then on again?

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