All Of My BMR Articles Have Been Deindexed - The Game's Up

by JamesW
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I have just been going through all of my BMR articles to see if they are still indexed, and they all seem to have disappeared. Even though it may say they are indexed in your account, if you manually check yourself either by clicking on the binoculars button or searching for the title of each article in quotes, you will see that none of the articles are anywhere to be found on Google. I have checked around 50 articles so far, new and old, and I haven't yet found one that is actually listed in Google.

It was good while it lasted, but it's hard to see how BMR can come back from this.
#articles #bmr #deindexed #game
  • Hmmm i have just gone into my dashboard and opened up about 20 articles that are supposed to be indexed (by clicking on the binoculars) and all of mine are showing the same thing -

    no results can be found.

    This really doesnt look good

    update

    just gone through another 20 odd from ranging from 1 week to 2 months in age and not one is found in google
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  • Profile picture of the author JimSEO
    Haven't used BMR since the beginning of February, but all of my posts have been deindexed too.

    EDIT: No wait I found one that hasn't! Yessssss!
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    My rankings haven't dropped but all of my BMR posts have been deindexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

    What do you guys think?
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    • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
      Sorry mate but your point of view here is seriously flawed. We are not talking about BMR showing posts as not indexed inside the dashboard. When you make a search in quotes of any sentence you sent to BMR you will see that no results turn up. Means all of them are deindexed.

      If, on the other hand, BMR did this themselves somehow (which is very, very, very unlikely), how is it different than posts getting deindexed? Sadly, seems the game is really over for BMR...

      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

      What do you guys think?
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by Berkinb View Post

        Sorry mate but your point of view here is seriously flawed. We are not talking about BMR showing posts as not indexed inside the dashboard. When you make a search in quotes of any sentence you sent to BMR you will see that no results turn up. Means all of them are deindexed.

        If, on the other hand, BMR did this themselves somehow (which is very, very, very unlikely), how is it different than posts getting deindexed? Sadly, seems the game is really over for BMR...
        First of all, it's not MY point of view. I said from a friend.

        Second of all, he's talking about the ones in quotes where you type in Google.
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        • Profile picture of the author jimmyn
          Link schemes - Webmaster Tools Help

          "However, some webmasters engage in link exchange schemes and build partner pages exclusively for the sake of cross-linking, disregarding the quality of the links, the sources, and the long-term impact it will have on their sites. This is in violation of Google's Webmaster Guidelines and can negatively impact your site's ranking in search results. Examples of link schemes can include:

          Links intended to manipulate PageRank
          Links to web spammers or bad neighborhoods on the web
          Excessive reciprocal links or excessive link exchanging ("Link to me and I'll link to you.")
          Buying or selling links that pass PageRank"


          What does BMR stand for? It's not really surprising is it? Especially given what happened with other things such as ALN.
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    • Profile picture of the author lutherlars
      I actually initiated the removal process of my links from BMR, after getting the dreaded email from G.
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

      What do you guys think?
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      • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
        We've been saying it for weeks now - Private Blog Networks like BMR are in trouble.

        The problem is they are not 'Private' at all and the quality just isn't good enough to pass as natural links on natural blogs.
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by lutherlars View Post

        I actually initiated the removal process of my links from BMR, after getting the dreaded email from G.
        What is 'the removal process' you're speaking of?
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        • Profile picture of the author bbncu
          Just a tip guys and making it better out of a bad thing....save the posts that you uploaded on BMR, they should be original content again and you can use them on article networks like ezine or buzzle or just add them as content to your site...
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          • Profile picture of the author bbncu
            Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

            BMR posts aren't long enough to go on article directories...
            Package them up 3-4 posts that will make 450-600 word article...
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    • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Do you guys believe this? I was chatting with my friend a couple of minutes ago asking what the deal is. He believes that they are shown as "deindexed" because obviously BMR is high on the radar at the moment. And so its protecting the posts/backlinks from Google. Similar to ArticleRanks. We never see where the backlinks are going, but the sites are ranking up.

      What do you guys think?
      Mr Paul, all ya do is a back link check and find many of them, also, you know your blog content, grab 2-3 lines of it, and in Google put "content" and search, if you can't find it, ya been ripped off buddy and you deserve it buying links, KARMA.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesW
    Well my rankings have absolutely tanked for numerous keywords, so it's either a penalty or a result of all these links suddenly disappearing, or both.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOCreative
    Banned
    Will be cancelling my BMR subscription. All my posts have been deindexed
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    At last, google is doing something about people trying to game their search engine. Only took them like 4 years!
    Ha, no, they are always trying to "do something", but I agree it's a bit surprising they hadn't targeted KNOWN services like BMR that were also well known to WORK.

    Part of it is I think that they do not like to go manually looking for networks to hit (other than as warning shots, which this may well be), they prefer to improve their algorithms to the point where they can recognise "real" links and discount "gamed" links totally algorithmically, or with the minimum of human intervention. Otherwise it's just not scalable for them, it's like a game of Bash the Mole, new networks pop up too quickly to deal with.
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  • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
    I havr just checked my account and it appears its true. i am not going to panic though, it could be bmr have removed them to protect there network as they may feel google have caught on. Who knows.....either way i am kinda pissed as i have over 3000 posts plugged in. no drop in rankings yet. lets wait n see
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  • Profile picture of the author FamousOnYoutube
    I think BMR is on the doghouse right now. Won't be surprised if they lose all their subscribers in the near future.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Kind of makes me glad I wasn't using BMR. Mostly cos I am a cheapskate, but also I prefer to use under-the-radar services, or mix them up heavily. When something is as successful as BMR, well, you could say too much success is always going to backfire eventually in SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
      Ok have been going through all posts since this morning, all 3000 of them and so far not one has shown in google. So far i am at 2400, not one, none at all is indexed. Is there any point in me going any further?lol Wow, to say i am pissed is an understatement, bmrs inbox must be full of furious webmasters. I got sneaking suspicion this will be another hit and run. Sad, very sad. just waiting for drop in rankings............bastar###
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    • Profile picture of the author n0tr3v3
      I agree with you, but am not a cheapskate though...

      Well not to dance in the face of the misfortune of others but Glad I am broke so have to do even thing my self.

      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      Kind of makes me glad I wasn't using BMR. Mostly cos I am a cheapskate, but also I prefer to use under-the-radar services, or mix them up heavily. When something is as successful as BMR, well, you could say too much success is always going to backfire eventually in SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    ^^ you use cheap tactics, you lose. Simple as that. Everyone knew this day was going to come. I remember someone saying that ALN/BMR/ETC are going to get killed by summer. How true.
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    • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
      Not true actually, ETC is still alive and kicking :p

      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      ^^ you use cheap tactics, you lose. Simple as that. Everyone knew this day was going to come. I remember someone saying that ALN/BMR/ETC are going to get killed by summer. How true.
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      • Profile picture of the author todawg_not
        I had my fair share if words with BMR when they started rejecting every
        second post I made and I was a paying customer.

        So I cancelled my membership in Feb and took my business elsewhere.

        I'm glad I did now I see this type of shenanigans going on

        Google is not silly

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      • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
        Originally Posted by Berkinb View Post

        Not true actually, ETC is still alive and kicking :p
        Lulz.

        Ok on a more serious (??) note... wait 1-2 weeks and a ****load of "I lost all rankings" threads are going to be popping up here. So many backlinks wiped out, so many penalties to come.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
      True. But lets be honest, who doesnt. Is seo gaming the system in general whether it be paying for links, building them etc? I commend you for creating sites that are valuable to the searcher and offer good quality content that people link to.;-)

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  • Profile picture of the author lutherlars
    Go into 'projects,' 'view domanin' and there you have the option to remove all your links from the network.
    Its a little late for me, but I will do everything in my power to clean up my site's link profile in hopes that it comes back eventually. Its my first real site and do not want to just give up on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by lutherlars View Post

      Go into 'projects,' 'view domanin' and there you have the option to remove all your links from the network.
      Its a little late for me, but I will do everything in my power to clean up my site's link profile in hopes that it comes back eventually. Its my first real site and do not want to just give up on it.
      Thanks. That might be a good option for anyone who's rankings tanked. Opt out of there and see if you get lucky on the next update.

      I checked my friends BMR account (he posted 900 times between October and December.) All wiped out. What a thorough destruction this really is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tigrs84
      Originally Posted by lutherlars View Post

      Go into 'projects,' 'view domanin' and there you have the option to remove all your links from the network.
      Its a little late for me, but I will do everything in my power to clean up my site's link profile in hopes that it comes back eventually. Its my first real site and do not want to just give up on it.
      Are you saying that deleting the project will delete the links?
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      • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
        Originally Posted by Tigrs84 View Post

        Are you saying that deleting the project will delete the links?
        If we delete our links right now, will it save our websites from being deindexed in the upcoming days or is it already too late?

        Has anyone sent a support ticket to BMR to see what their response is?
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        • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
          Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

          If we delete our links right now, will it save our websites from being deindexed in the upcoming days or is it already too late?
          Google wouldn't deindex your site but they will penalize it as has been the case with many over the last month.

          DEindexing is the most drastic action that Google will take and for it to happen you going to have to be engaging in some really dodgy tactics.
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          • Profile picture of the author RayW
            Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

            they will penalize it as has been the case with many over the last month.
            Can anyone confirm if this is true? I'm trying to decide whether I should remove all my links from BMR.
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            • Profile picture of the author mosthost
              Originally Posted by RayW View Post

              Can anyone confirm if this is true? I'm trying to decide whether I should remove all my links from BMR.
              IMHO, the damage would be done already. Sure, as a general rules all rats should probably flee the ship. However, if you're not exactly sure what will happen to your rankings, think twice.

              The might still be counting Yahoo/Bing for example.

              I think it's safe to say links from de-indexed domains won't HELP anyone in Google. They might even be poisoned. Worse, if all of your links are from 'poisoned de-indexed blogs' I'd probably pull them real fast and say a quick prayer to Mercury (aka Thoth, the God of written words and search engines)

              It might be enough to save you.
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            • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
              Originally Posted by RayW View Post

              Can anyone confirm if this is true? I'm trying to decide whether I should remove all my links from BMR.
              For your reading pleasure

              Does Google Penalize Your Site If Your Link Network Gets Deindexed - Traffic Planet
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      • Profile picture of the author aa411853
        Originally Posted by Tigrs84 View Post

        Are you saying that deleting the project will delete the links?
        How do I remove my links/posts from the BMR network?
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        • Profile picture of the author retsek
          If I understand right, doing the Remove Links bit will remove all posts on the system including those that were already live?

          Surprising that you have that level of control on a per user basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author ionutpopa
    I hope there won't be any penalties... It's very easy today to harm a competitor by throwing bad links at his site intentionally. There's no way to defend if this happens if Google decides to penalize the pages targeted be these bad links...
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    I agree with Markowe about BMR been a victim of their own success. Just a few weeks ago every second thread (exageration) was about BMR. Very difficult for any network to stay under the radar when the biggest IM forum in the world is plasting their name everywhere.

    I don't think it is the end of blog networks though! I'm using a network right now that is built similar to BMR but because they are under the radar they have not been affected by Google's wrath.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      I don't think it is the end of blog networks though! I'm using a network right now that is built similar to BMR but because they are under the radar they have not been affected by Google's wrath.
      People are going to ask which network.

      If you're smart, you won't tell them.
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      I agree with Markowe about BMR been a victim of their own success. Just a few weeks ago every second thread (exageration) was about BMR. Very difficult for any network to stay under the radar when the biggest IM forum in the world is plasting their name everywhere.

      I don't think it is the end of blog networks though! I'm using a network right now that is built similar to BMR but because they are under the radar they have not been affected by Google's wrath.
      I've haven't liked relying on a single network or backlinking method for some time, I found it dodgy that people were basing their SEO strategy on BMR alone, though I must admit, I didn't think they would get hammered this badly. It's not enough for a service just to "work", it's got to STAY "working".

      For easy keywords I just mix up random services, simple as that, never use the same BL profile twice. I had a similar thing happen before - I had some rankings that were largely got using AMR and they all dipped, some of them disastrously, in the October Panda. Course, I can't know for sure it was the AMR links got devalued, but I ain't risking that happening again anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
        Originally Posted by markowe View Post

        I've haven't liked relying on a single network or backlinking method for some time, I found it dodgy that people were basing their SEO strategy on BMR alone, though I must admit, I didn't think they would get hammered this badly. It's not enough for a service just to "work", it's got to STAY "working".

        For easy keywords I just mix up random services, simple as that, never use the same BL profile twice. I had a similar thing happen before - I had some rankings that were largely got using AMR and they all dipped, some of them disastrously, in the October Panda. Course, I can't know for sure it was the AMR links got devalued, but I ain't risking that happening again anyway.
        That's the thing people don't understand... diversity is key! It's easy to fall into the trap of sticking with what works but unfortunately that logic doesn't align with SEO... you need to stick with various proven methods not just one!

        Strange thing is: before blog networks became all the rave I relied heavily on Web2.0 properties because they worked and what is strange about it is that this technique hasn't died... it is still as effective as it was a couple years ago.

        The problem with software programs like AMR is that the directories don't last, many are deindexed, and this could be the reason for your loss in rankings. But as with most things SEO, we can only speculate.

        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        People are going to ask which network.

        If you're smart, you won't tell them.
        Too late I already blurted about it before! Damn, now I lose 10 smart points! Down from rocket scientist to accountant... LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Networks should have a limit of how many people can join. The less people join, the less it will be talked about, which will help keep it under the radar and out of Google's sight.
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  • Profile picture of the author markthedoc
    I was a bit miffed when BMR closed the doors to new members the other week as I was a bout to sign up... I'm glad now!
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    I'm interested in seeing how BMR will respond to this...
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      Hate to say it but frankly, it's the end of the road for them.

      I got out a long time ago when I saw the direction it was going (getting too saturated).

      Always wanted to tell the admin (John) that he should close the doors even as long ago as one year back, but hey.....what business closes their doors to more and more customers?
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      • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
        Originally Posted by Dellco View Post

        Hate to say it but frankly, it's the end of the road for them.

        I got out a long time ago when I saw the direction it was going (getting too saturated).

        Always wanted to tell the admin (John) that he should close the doors even as long ago as one year back, but hey.....what business closes their doors to more and more customers?
        More than the fault of saturation, which left more tracks, is that the sites on their networks simply do not look like a website the casual web surfer comes across. This is why competitors can easily point them out, notify Google, and get them de-indexed.
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by Dellco View Post

        Hate to say it but frankly, it's the end of the road for them.

        I got out a long time ago when I saw the direction it was going (getting too saturated).

        Always wanted to tell the admin (John) that he should close the doors even as long ago as one year back, but hey.....what business closes their doors to more and more customers?
        Same here, I cancelled my account about 2 weeks before they closed off new members. Too much publicity is never good for these types of networks.

        What sucks even worse is that I have multiple partners that poured, literally, $10k+ on outsourcing bmr posts. All that time, effort and money just got flushed right down the drain. How sad
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrs
    BOOM! There goes BMR. Sucks for them but I've been waiting for this for a few days now. All of the posts I've made are now de-indexed from what I can tell, I'm sure as hell not gonna spend the time going through to check each one

    I've kept a fairly diverse link profile and I've used BMR sparingly but I still wonder if there is going to be penalties to come. I love my little niche site portfolio but I for one am DEFINITELY moving away from this model and into something far more sustainable.

    You live, You learn!
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  • Profile picture of the author TKay1
    Check their blog. They're going out of business...

    I'm not allowed to post links, but they're closing down. All of their domains deindexed...
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Hey everyone, looks like it's official:

    BuildMyRank.com – Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » It’s Been a Great Run!!

    Good of BMR to address it and quickly. I know there were a ton of rumors recently, but I'd checked as recently as 4 days ago and our BMR posts were still there, indexed, etc. Not the case today.
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    • Profile picture of the author aa411853
      Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

      Hey everyone, looks like it's official:

      BuildMyRank.com - Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » It's Been a Great Run!!

      Good of BMR to address it and quickly. I know there were a ton of rumors recently, but I'd checked as recently as 4 days ago and our BMR posts were still there, indexed, etc. Not the case today.
      Yes, we've always been honest. It's unethical to run a business otherwise, but until yesterday we hadn't experienced anything out of the norm.
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      • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
        Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

        Yes, we've always been honest. It's unethical to run a business otherwise, but until yesterday we hadn't experienced anything out of the norm.
        Not stating you WEREN'T being honest at all. I'd seen all the rumors and had MOSTLY dismissed them as when I checked our posts through the BMR system, most were still there. When I checked a few hours ago, many were gone.

        Must have been painful to wake up to this...I seriously feel for you guys. Painful post to put out as well. There are less honest marketers and people out there that would have tried to milk it. That would have been a really bad idea, I think...glad you guys stood up and said it was over.

        You had tremendous success with BMR...I'm sure you'll move onto something else that does quite well too. Best of luck to you guys...
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        • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
          Completely agree with this. I really feel for the guys at BMR, and hope that the whole experience will help them come up with something even better.

          Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

          Not stating you WEREN'T being honest at all. I'd seen all the rumors and had MOSTLY dismissed them as when I checked our posts through the BMR system, most were still there. When I checked a few hours ago, many were gone.

          Must have been painful to wake up to this...I seriously feel for you guys. Painful post to put out as well. There are less honest marketers and people out there that would have tried to milk it. That would have been a really bad idea, I think...glad you guys stood up and said it was over.

          You had tremendous success with BMR...I'm sure you'll move onto something else that does quite well too. Best of luck to you guys...
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          • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
            Originally Posted by Berkinb View Post

            Completely agree with this. I really feel for the guys at BMR, and hope that the whole experience will help them come up with something even better.
            yes, this is not the end. They had a great plan. Next one will be a good one
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    • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
      Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

      Hey everyone, looks like it's official:

      BuildMyRank.com - Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » It's Been a Great Run!!

      Good of BMR to address it and quickly. I know there were a ton of rumors recently, but I'd checked as recently as 4 days ago and our BMR posts were still there, indexed, etc. Not the case today.
      I wish I had seen this post before I wrote 15 posts this morning. You would have thought they would have disabled the posting feature on the site.

      So, Now what? Any suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author aa411853
    Hey guys, sadly I have to report this is not a rumor. Just put up a blog post, but it appears that Google has wiped out a large portion of our network the last two days. We still have many sites left, but not nearly enough to support ongoing demand.

    BuildMyRank.com – Link Building Service Featuring High Quality One-Way Backlinks » It’s Been a Great Run!!

    Right now we're going to close up, and figure out our next steps, and let clearer heads prevail. Still think there's an opportunity to pivot, and turn BMR into a higher quality, more focused offering. But this cannot be done overnight for sure, and will take some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author radivoj
    Google just keep deindexing blogs articles and keep to penalizing sites like crazy for unnatural link building...
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  • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
    Ok guys really important questions (would love your opinions):

    I have a high quality website: Custom Theme/Images (Thnx to my prof. photog gf), High quality (typo-free) original engaging material, over 100 pages.

    I must admit I relied heavily on BMR for the past 6 months, and in a way I knew it would probably hurt me in the end, but analyzing the backlinks of the top 20 search results (my competition), I noticed they were doing very similar things so I figured if one goes down, we all go down.

    Where I was hoping to beat them was with a good site, something many of them were choosing not to do.

    I received the unnatural links in webmasters tools I believe 2 days ago. I've read a lot of responses on how to approach this.

    One thread on the black hat forum said to not respond (ignore it, doing otherwise was a death-trap).

    Others have said to remove all links as they said and respond for reconsideration.

    My question to everyone is (in your opinions):

    Should I start removing the 1000's of BMR posts and when I'm done immediately file for reconsideration, or should I remove them wait a few days and then file.

    Or should I just go about my business, don't respond to the message, start guest posting to build natural real links and leave it be.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vusal
      Hello,

      So you got the message, and probably site is ranking as it used to,

      It takes about 2 weeks to see the 'effect' of penalty,

      Now that the network has been deindexed you can ask reconsideration, like "more than half of backlinks are deleted now" - something like this.

      They'll reply within 3-4 business days,
      I thought they'd reply after about a month or so (they've sent thousands of "unnatural links found" notification messages) but it was surprise to see their reply after 3 days.

      Now that the links are removed from their index, ask for reconsideration.

      Ignoring the message won't solve anything and the rankings will start falling after 2-4 weeks.

      Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

      Ok guys really important questions (would love your opinions):

      I have a high quality website: Custom Theme/Images (Thnx to my prof. photog gf), High quality (typo-free) original engaging material, over 100 pages.

      I must admit I relied heavily on BMR for the past 6 months, and in a way I knew it would probably hurt me in the end, but analyzing the backlinks of the top 20 search results (my competition), I noticed they were doing very similar things so I figured if one goes down, we all go down.

      Where I was hoping to beat them was with a good site, something many of them were choosing not to do.

      I received the unnatural links in webmasters tools I believe 2 days ago. I've read a lot of responses on how to approach this.

      One thread on the black hat forum said to not respond (ignore it, doing otherwise was a death-trap).

      Others have said to remove all links as they said and respond for reconsideration.

      My question to everyone is (in your opinions):

      Should I start removing the 1000's of BMR posts and when I'm done immediately file for reconsideration, or should I remove them wait a few days and then file.

      Or should I just go about my business, don't respond to the message, start guest posting to build natural real links and leave it be.
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      • Profile picture of the author dadoc
        ALN then BMR

        These blog networks work, but once you are too public google will target you. Small private networks will probably be the way to go in the future...
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  • Profile picture of the author bmcgoff
    I'd also like to know if removing the posts is a good idea. Will the content be seen as duplicate if it is re-purposed? It seems the best thing to do (to salvage all our money and time) is to combine posts and submit them to article directories, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    No wonder some of my sites went straight up to Google #1 and got some sales recently. Seems that my competitors are affected by BMR backlinks.

    Sorry folks, it's about time to build your own high PR private networks solely for your own use.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

      Unfortunately BMR was a victim of its own popularity.

      These types of networks clearly still work and will still work going forward, everyone just needs to adjust.

      I'm sure BMR will be back in some capacity in the not too distant future.
      You think they'll be able to file thousands of successful reinclusion requests?
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    BMR made it far too easy to find their sites. They should not have included the feature for users to check if their sites are indexed, it just reveals your sites for everyone to see. Big mistake on their part.
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    • Profile picture of the author slix
      Originally Posted by RayW View Post

      BMR made it far too easy to find their sites. They should not have included the feature for users to check if their sites are indexed, it just reveals your sites for everyone to see. Big mistake on their part.
      You can always take a part of the article you submitted to BMR, put it in quotes and copy/paste in google...So if I know this, those responsible for de-indexing BMR know as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by RayW View Post

      BMR made it far too easy to find their sites. They should not have included the feature for users to check if their sites are indexed, it just reveals your sites for everyone to see. Big mistake on their part.
      Whether that feature was there or not, it was easy to find the sites. Since the articles were unique content, all you had to do was pick a paragraph from an article and search for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...

    Also i would like to inform every one that in my recent communication with google employees that have indicated that site with links from unethical network BMR will be totally destroyed, do not waste your time and take your links off now , it might just save your online business....

    Once again together we can and we will bring back quality to internet search results ....

    It really feels good when you fight against all odds and still succeed
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    • Profile picture of the author janux
      There's an option to remove the posts from the BMR network and the links to your sites.

      Do you recommend removing the links from the BMR network. Is that a good idea?

      Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...

      Also i would like to inform every one that in my recent communication with google employees that have indicated that site with links from unethical network BMR will be totally destroyed, do not waste your time and take your links off now , it might just save your online business....

      Once again together we can and we will bring back quality to internet search results ....

      It really feels good when you fight against all odds and still succeed
      Please stop gloating. I doubt if many people want to hear an "I told you so" at this moment...
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    • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
      Wow... you mad bro?

      People that get/got dominated in the SERPS (like you) whine and complain about networks because they suck at SEO.

      My personal network is alive and kicking, and I have not seen any dramatic rank decreases yet... So looks like you will continue to get owned even after BMR is dead bro .

      P.s. Next time you talk to Matt Cutts tell him I love him.



      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...

      Also i would like to inform every one that in my recent communication with google employees that have indicated that site with links from unethical network BMR will be totally destroyed, do not waste your time and take your links off now , it might just save your online business....

      Once again together we can and we will bring back quality to internet search results ....

      It really feels good when you fight against all odds and still succeed
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    @janux - definitely with wasting any time ...
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    • Profile picture of the author janux
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @janux - definitely with wasting any time ...

      Will removing my links really help? I mean, google still knows about all those sites because they were indexed. Why would removing the links help?
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    @1byte - "not many" i was alone ....
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    because the links are of no worth and instead of supplementing what ever other links you have they become a liability .. thats why
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    • Profile picture of the author janux
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      because the links are of no worth and instead of supplementing what ever other links you have they become a liability .. thats why
      So, if these sites have become deindexed, my own sites have been marked in a bad way as long as the links are still on them?

      What kind of link building is better than BMR was?
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    @janux - social media links are future according to google employees ...
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    • Profile picture of the author janux
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @janux - social media links are future according to google employees ...
      Are you talking about Facebook likes and twits?

      These seem very easy to game.

      In addition, how would you promote a small affiliate blog from now on? These aren't sites that are likely to get a lot of social media attention
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    @janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...
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    • Profile picture of the author janux
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...
      What social sites do you use other than FB, twitter, pinterest, and stumble?
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    • Profile picture of the author bille
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...
      So self serving links on social media sites are somehow different than self-serving links on a blog network? I'm missing the nuance.
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...
      ? Just so a blind mans see's clearly in the rain - instead of people using bmr or similar services they should now all turn to the manipulation of social media ? and as such those fiver gigs giving out xyz likes or yzz tweets should now be starting do a a roaring trade as social media becomes the new black.
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @janux - social media is bigger then fb and twitter, of course you have to search for more social media sites, share and interact with other online users and if they like what you have to offer, search engines will also like that, as social media has billions hooked to them and they do represent real people's like and dislikes in many ways ...
      So now we have to game the social media sites - not that many people are not already doing it. How long will that last until big G devalues/deindexes that spam...uhm...I mean posts?
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    @janux- pm me your email i will send u a good list ...
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    • Profile picture of the author janux
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @janux- pm me your email i will send u a good list ...
      I don't have enough posts to PM you. I'm sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quixx
    It's sad to see, but this was past due really. Google's algo has failed miserably to detect these types of networks in the past, and I'd bet it still does today. My guess is that this finally hit their radar, triggering some manual intervention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Architex
    I have a question.

    One of my sites I used BMR for some of the links. I got the notice on the 18th from G about notice of detected unnatural links. Do I go ahead and delete the links off BRM and do the reconsideration request? The funny thing is only one KW dropped a lot and only dropped from 17 to 30. And since has climbed back up to 27. I am not sure what to do. Thanks for any info.
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    • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
      Originally Posted by Architex View Post

      I have a question.

      One of my sites I used BMR for some of the links. I got the notice on the 18th from G about notice of detected unnatural links. Do I go ahead and delete the links off BRM and do the reconsideration request? The funny thing is only one KW dropped a lot and only dropped from 17 to 30. And since has climbed back up to 27. I am not sure what to do. Thanks for any info.
      Those BMR links will be a negative burden on you man , i know it will be hard to remove them as they gave you so much boost , but now start working with out then , keeping them will pull you down and you sites will be always be viewed by
      google negatively
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      • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
        Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

        Those BMR links will be a negative burden on you man , i know it will be hard to remove them as they gave you so much boost , but now start working with out then , keeping them will pull you down and you sites will be always be viewed by
        google negatively
        So you think that the links should be removed from BMR?
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        • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
          Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

          So you think that the links should be removed from BMR?
          If you can give yourself one good reason to keep them , you can keep them,its time to move on to better things, you are a prolific writer, you can find blogs related to niche you are in and start submitting content to them if they allow or add the same useful content to your site and make it a small information hub on the topic that the site is based on and see the authority you get , ofcourse it will take some time as it will be a white hat method ..
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      • Profile picture of the author Architex
        Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

        Those BMR links will be a negative burden on you man , i know it will be hard to remove them as they gave you so much boost , but now start working with out then , keeping them will pull you down and you sites will be always be viewed by
        google negatively

        I did not rely solely on BMR. I have over 10K Links and around 350 are from BMR. The question I have is, will my rankings drop in the coming weeks or is this it? I am proabby going to delete the BMR links just to be done with it. The other part is do I do a reconsideration request? From what I can tell if my rankings are done dropping I am OK with where I am. But if in the coming weeks they drop even more I do not know.
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        • Profile picture of the author bitriot
          Hi everyone - I sincerely doubt that Cheekugames got BMR taken down since, if you haven't noticed, all public blog networks have gone down... Or that he has any sort of insider google information. This guy is a joke. Seriously.
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          • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
            Originally Posted by bitriot View Post

            Hi everyone - I sincerely doubt that Cheekugames got BMR taken down since, if you haven't noticed, all public blog networks have gone down... Or that he has any sort of insider google information. This guy is a joke. Seriously.
            I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....
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            • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
              Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

              I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....
              It was not unethical it was just not what Google wanted you to do. Huge difference there. By your logic playing the stock market hard and fast is unethical.
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            • Profile picture of the author bitriot
              Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

              I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....
              No you haven't. You haven't achieved anything.

              It just so happens that BMR closed down.

              YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
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              • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
                Originally Posted by bitriot View Post

                No you haven't. You haven't achieved anything.

                It just so happens that BMR closed down.

                YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
                Chill man chill , it seems you are still in a state of shock
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                • Profile picture of the author bitriot
                  Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

                  Chill man chill , it seems you are still in a state of shock
                  Not in shock at all. My business isn't built around BMR. It is just ridiculous to watch you prance around this thread like

                  A) you are responsible for BMR getting de-indexed and closing down

                  and

                  B) that you have any kind of inside information from google that would make YOU of all people, someone that others in this thread should look to for answers.

                  That's all.
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                  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
                    Originally Posted by bitriot View Post

                    Not in shock at all. My business isn't built around BMR. It is just ridiculous to watch you prance around this thread like

                    A) you are responsible for BMR getting de-indexed and closing down

                    and

                    B) that you have any kind of inside information from google that would make YOU of all people, someone that others in this thread should look to for answers.

                    That's all.
                    In case you are new in this world, know this " some people are better connected then others " and just one more thing " some people you should never piss off " ha ha ha .....
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                    • Profile picture of the author bitriot
                      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

                      In case you are new in this world, know this " some people are better connected then others " and just one more thing " some people you should never piss off " ha ha ha .....
                      I love the thinly veiled threats - your dedication to ethics knowns no bounds.
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                      • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
                        Originally Posted by bitriot View Post

                        I love the thinly veiled threats - your dedication to ethics knowns no bounds.
                        I'm sure he wasn't talking about himself when he refers to there being certain people you shouldn't piss off lol - as he sits behind the computer screen wishing he had something else to do
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              • Profile picture of the author bitriot
                IN OTHER NEWS, MY CRUSADE AGAINST WINTER HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. SPRING IS HERE! YOU ARE ALL WELCOME!!!
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                  Originally Posted by bitriot View Post

                  IN OTHER NEWS, MY CRUSADE AGAINST WINTER HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. SPRING IS HERE! YOU ARE ALL WELCOME!!!
                  ROFL!!! Bravo great answer
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

              I could care less if any one gives me any credit or not, the bottom line for me was to get this unethical network with all its malpractices close down and i have achieved it ....
              What about all the "unethical" WSO's and Warrior for Hire services you have bought here? Are they next on your radar?

              You have tried to game the system as much as anyone. It's easy to follow your past posts and see that.

              I am not defending BMR. I could care less that they are gone. I just think you are a hypocrite.

              And of course, he won't reply to this post because that is what he does every time someone points out his hypocrisy.
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        • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
          Originally Posted by Architex View Post

          I did not rely solely on BMR. I have over 10K Links and around 350 are from BMR. The question I have is, will my rankings drop in the coming weeks or is this it? I am proabby going to delete the BMR links just to be done with it. The other part is do I do a reconsideration request? From what I can tell if my rankings are done dropping I am OK with where I am. But if in the coming weeks they drop even more I do not know.
          If you do not rely solely on BMR then you will not be affected very badly, the sites that will be hit most hard are the one's that had achieved high rankings with BMR links predominantly , if you used other links along with BMR you will still get affected but will have a chance to bounce back.... no point in sending reconsideration requests thousands will be doing so , know very well they took a short cut to higher serps, google will never accept them...
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  • Profile picture of the author AudioRoxor
    Blah. I didn't have an insane amount of BMR links... the most I had on any one domain was 18 links... and to be honest... most of the backlink checking tools I've used hardly picks them up.

    I do mix in guest blogs, social bookmarks, videos, and doc posting...

    Hoping I don't get slammed... My traffic has been up considerably in the past 2 days.

    I also don't use GA or GWT.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by AudioRoxor View Post

      Blah. I didn't have an insane amount of BMR links... the most I had on any one domain was 18 links... and to be honest... most of the backlink checking tools I've used hardly picks them up.

      I do mix in guest blogs, social bookmarks, videos, and doc posting...

      Hoping I don't get slammed... My traffic has been up considerably in the past 2 days.

      I also don't use GA or GWT.
      Sounds like your competitors were hit and you weren't. Congrats
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      • Profile picture of the author AudioRoxor
        Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

        Sounds like your competitors were hit and you weren't. Congrats
        Well, let's hope. I hate when people start throwing around claims like "all sites participating in blog networks will be de-indexed" ... so that makes me nervous.

        I really don't think there will be a specific penalty, many legit businesses have hired what they thought were legitimate SEO companies (who used BMR, to whatever extent) to promote their site. I think it'd be wrong to penalize a business owner like that. But who knows...

        Rather, they SHOULD suffer from lower rankings because of all the links and link juice that they would lose.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    How are the other blog networks holding up? Are Linkvana, ALN and High PR Society still doing well? Are they safe to use?
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Just logged into my BMR account and it said:

    Please make sure to cancel your subscriptions so that you are not re-billed. My Account->Unsubscribe

    It looks like you have to unsubscribe or you may get charged for another month!
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    • Profile picture of the author Architex
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Just logged into my BMR account and it said:

      Please make sure to cancel your subscriptions so that you are not re-billed. My Account->Unsubscribe

      It looks like you have to unsubscribe or you may get charged for another month!
      This is true. I got billed this morning.
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      • Profile picture of the author aa411853
        Originally Posted by Architex View Post

        This is true. I got billed this morning.
        Guys we don't have a mechanism on this end to mass cancel subscriptions. So if you don't do it, we'll have to go thru these individually and do them ourselves (sounds easier than it is).

        Give us a few days to get everything organized and we'll be refunding unused payments for subscriptions and post credits. So if you got billed today of course you would get the full refund.
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        • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
          Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

          Guys we don't have a mechanism on this end to mass cancel subscriptions. So if you don't do it, we'll have to go thru these individually and do them ourselves (sounds easier than it is).

          Give us a few days to get everything organized and we'll be refunding unused payments for subscriptions and post credits. So if you got billed today of course you would get the full refund.
          Any idea when the download feature is coming for all the posts? Some of us have received the unnatural links in webmaster tools, and for those of us that have legit websites that want to get back in googles good graces will most likely have to go the path of deleting all BMR posts and submitting a request to them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Architex
          Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

          Guys we don't have a mechanism on this end to mass cancel subscriptions. So if you don't do it, we'll have to go thru these individually and do them ourselves (sounds easier than it is).

          Give us a few days to get everything organized and we'll be refunding unused payments for subscriptions and post credits. So if you got billed today of course you would get the full refund.
          They just refunded me. Very quick, I was actually surprised it was this fast.
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          • Profile picture of the author rinor81
            Just noticed I got a message 2 days ago on one of my aged domains I worked real hard on and built various links to it but from BMR as well....the message was of-course on webmaster tools about unnatural links detected....

            So sad, what now? Will this site as well as other sites I've built hard over the years will fall down the serps and suffer?

            Any ideas guys?

            BMR was one of my techniques but a lot of links were built using this service to a lot of my sites....
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    So what's the final word on deleting all the links or not from my BMR account? Should we at first try to download all the posts or something before doing this?

    Any help?
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  • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
    Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality website that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

      Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality websites that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.
      So we can go ahead and delete all those, but still be able to have access to your posts though when the tool is available to download correct?
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      • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
        Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

        So we can go ahead and delete all those, but still be able to have access to your posts though when the tool is available to download correct?
        No I wouldn't delete them yet unless you want to risk losing all the material written. Thats why I'm asking about when the download feature is coming in my post above.
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        • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
          Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

          No I wouldn't delete them yet unless you want to risk losing all the material written. Thats why I'm asking about when the download feature is coming in my post above.
          Well too late for me then. I went ahead and did delete all of them. Hopefully we can still access the data though.
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          • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
            Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

            Well too late for me then. I went ahead and did delete all of them. Hopefully we can still access the data though.
            Well let it be a lesson for the future, not always wise to take that knee-jerk response. The Seo community is being rattled a little bit, and people are jumping ship and panicking.

            Hopefully this will all be settled later down the line, but based on everything I'm reading it looks like deep pockets are going to win in the end as long as emphasis is put on backlinks.

            People can easily buy guest posts on renowned blogs, and stick in googles good graces.
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            • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
              Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

              Well let it be a lesson for the future, not always wise to take that knee-jerk response. The Seo community is being rattled a little bit, and people are jumping ship and panicking.

              Hopefully this will all be settled later down the line, but based on everything I'm reading it looks like deep pockets are going to win in the end as long as emphasis is put on backlinks.

              People can easily buy guest posts on renowned blogs, and stick in googles good graces.
              Well the deletion part is no big deal since I have backups of all my posts and since none are indexed anymore it is no use whether I deleted them or not.
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              • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
                Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

                Well the deletion part is no big deal since I have backups of all my posts and since none are indexed anymore it is no use whether I deleted them or not.
                Well thats good, I dunno if the posts will be useful in the future, but most of mine are legit and relate (original), so they may be used in some form later on.
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    • Profile picture of the author aa411853
      Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

      Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality website that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.
      Please give us a few days. Just trying to figure out how best to do this so that the server doesn't get knocked offline from everyone downloading content at the same time.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
        Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

        Please give us a few days. Just trying to figure out how best to do this so that the server doesn't get knocked offline from everyone downloading content at the same time.
        I went ahead and deleted all my live links to all the domains I had in the system. I will still have access to my posts when it's my time to the downloads correct?
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        • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
          Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

          I went ahead and deleted all my live links to all the domains I had in the system. I will still have access to my posts when it's my time to the downloads correct?
          Umm I think you just got rid of all your posts (won't be able to download now), hence it being deletion.
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          • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
            Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

            Umm I think you just got rid of all your posts (won't be able to download now), hence it being deletion.
            Well worst case scenario I have all my posts in excel format on my computer (I had my writer submit them that way so I could do the import feature) and I can go back to those in case I need them.
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    • Profile picture of the author aa411853
      Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

      Well the question is when is the download coming, I will probably go the route of deleting all the posts, but I want to get back on the right track especially when I have a quality website that is a hell of a lot better than the garbage at the top of the serps now.
      Guys you can log into your accounts now, and you'll see a link on the dashboard (Export My Posts), just above the system messages. This will create a zip file with 1 csv file for each domain. Fields included are date_published (if the post was published), title and body (html).

      Hoping to get thru all of the refunds in the next 3-4 days. Each of these is having to be processed manually, so it takes time. Once pro-rated subscr payment refunds are issued, then we'll start work on issuing refunds for unused outsource credits.
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      • Profile picture of the author rinor81
        Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

        Guys you can log into your accounts now, and you'll see a link on the dashboard (Export My Posts), just above the system messages. This will create a zip file with 1 csv file for each domain. Fields included are date_published (if the post was published), title and body (html).

        Hoping to get thru all of the refunds in the next 3-4 days. Each of these is having to be processed manually, so it takes time. Once pro-rated subscr payment refunds are issued, then we'll start work on issuing refunds for unused outsource credits.
        Thank you for your help.

        As for the re-funds, don't worry guys I got mine back today.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
        Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

        Guys you can log into your accounts now, and you'll see a link on the dashboard (Export My Posts), just above the system messages. This will create a zip file with 1 csv file for each domain. Fields included are date_published (if the post was published), title and body (html).

        Hoping to get thru all of the refunds in the next 3-4 days. Each of these is having to be processed manually, so it takes time. Once pro-rated subscr payment refunds are issued, then we'll start work on issuing refunds for unused outsource credits.
        As much as I don't like things like BRM, and I don't hide that at all, I consider it close to blackhat. I must say I am impressed that BMR are going down this path with the refunds when Google caught up with them. They are to be respected for this as individuals in my opinion
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        • Profile picture of the author ShellieJ
          Hi everyone. As you can see, I am a new member. I am wondering if someone could do me a favor and post a link to one of the BMR blog sites, or send me a PM with a link, or link to a website from a similar service. I am trying to see what the quality of the blog articles is like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelvin12
    Yea, such a shame. They were really good !! Just logged into my account and saw their message.
    What's up with Google these days ??
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    Well I went ahead and deleted all the posts to all the domains that I had in the system. BMR was just part of SEO method with only 40-50 posts per url. So hopefully it won't hit my sites as hard. I'm going to switch over to focusing on other link building methods to hopefully build it up again and not see a big drops.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark806
    So is it wise to delete all active posts??????
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I just a saw a result in Google search with a page from November 1988, I kid you not.

    Google has really outdone themselves this time.
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  • Profile picture of the author aa411853
    Guys, no worries if you deleted the posts already. We keep everything anyway in our app db, so it's more of a soft delete. You'll still be able to download these.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

      Guys, no worries if you deleted the posts already. We keep everything anyway in our app db, so it's more of a soft delete. You'll still be able to download these.
      Ok good to hear that.
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    • Profile picture of the author aa411853
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      Some time back when i had posted you will be toast because of your malpractices, you made fun of me saying you only closed as you wanted to solidify your network, not tell me are you a liar or not and you lied to same people from whom you took money and became rich, i assure a prison cell awaits you little crook ....

      You can get WF mods to delete the posts but i will always ensure you get suitable punishment for this fraud ...
      Could someone please ban this moron??
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      • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
        Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

        Could someone please ban this moron??
        Now frauds like you who cheat people will decide who is to be banned ....
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      • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
        Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

        Could someone please ban this moron??
        Can someone please ban anyone that thinks they are so special that they get to use bold fonts for their entire post lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      You can get WF mods to delete the posts
      A few of your posts were deleted because you're being abusive. Not because someone else didn't like the opinions behind them.

      Try to make your points without threats and over the top insults.


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    • Profile picture of the author nossie
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      Some time back when i had posted you will be toast because of your malpractices, you made fun of me saying you only closed as you wanted to solidify your network, now tell me are you a liar or not and you lied to same people from whom you took money and became rich, i assure a prison cell awaits you little crook ....

      You can get WF mods to delete the posts but i will always ensure you get suitable punishment for this fraud ...
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    • Profile picture of the author joetheseo
      Dude you are clearly an newbie SEO that has no right speaking in a room of experienced members.

      [Deleted] and start reading another course, maybe one day you'll get your first rank 1.

      Whoopie bud... BMR is just ONE network. You act like it's the end of the world. There's 10 other ones I can think of just off the top of my head.

      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      Some time back when i had posted you will be toast because of your malpractices, you made fun of me saying you only closed as you wanted to solidify your network, now tell me are you a liar or not and you lied to same people from whom you took money and became rich, i assure a prison cell awaits you little crook ....

      You can get WF mods to delete the posts but i will always ensure you get suitable punishment for this fraud ...
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    So anyone know what sort of drop we can expect from not having these BMR links now? I know it's though to give an answer to this, but if we only did like 40-50 posts per url will that impact us as much if each one had like 200+ posts and was the major portion of your backlinking?

    Would it be a good idea to start implementing other things during this type to counteract this drop that will be seeing in a few weeks possibly?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hardik Jogi
    UPDATE :

    Just got the news that Blog Blueprint is also dead!
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      Originally Posted by Hardik Jogi View Post

      UPDATE :

      Just got the news that Blog Blueprint is also dead!
      Their entire network? I saw some mention on another board that High PR Society is mostly deindexed too, however, I don't know if it's true.

      Sad.
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    • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
      Originally Posted by Hardik Jogi View Post

      UPDATE :

      Just got the news that Blog Blueprint is also dead!
      Figured it would happen with them as well.

      They were a very trashy network, lots of spun garbage content and all their sites looked the exact same.
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  • Profile picture of the author leewii
    hey guy

    i just copy and pasted 500 bmr post on work pad, so i have been using bmr for exactly 30 days. i was ranking good on very good keywords, lets see what happens.

    so the question i wana know if you any can help why hasn't uaw, linkvana and all the networks not down? or are they all down
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  • Profile picture of the author AudioRoxor
    Quit feeding the trolls, folks.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    All those BMR supporters still around here , i had informed about this coming some time back , i have nothing against any user of BMR(you were simply cheated by BMR) but just feel sad if only you guys had taken down BMR links then(as i had suggested then) , your sites would have been in better position to avoid the fall in serps in the coming days , any ways, the fight against BMR will continue till the owner is put behind bar, for now atleast some better results and less manipulation ... google is not a bad company they responded to my requests and their employees communicated with me as well... this gives hope that in future also i will be able to take on the high and mighty with all you guys support....

    Note - I am trying to get in touch with some legal guys to teach the BMR people a lesson they will remember, this is definitely not the end of story , they simply cannot shut shop and run away, they will be held accountable ....

    thanks again...
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    • Profile picture of the author bille
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      All those BMR supporters still around here , i had informed about this coming some time back , i have nothing against any user of BMR(you were simply cheated by BMR) but just feel sad if only you guys had taken down BMR links then(as i had suggested then) , your sites would have been in better position to avoid the fall in serps in the coming days , any ways, the fight against BMR will continue till the owner is put behind bar, for now atleast some better results and less manipulation ... google is not a bad company they responded to my requests and their employees communicated with me as well... this gives hope that in future also i will be able to take on the high and mighty with all you guys support....

      thanks again...
      heh. The backlink profile on your site includes lots of spammy crap, including profile links, automated blog comments, etc. Did BMR reject your site or something? Is that what set you off?
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    • Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      Note - I am trying to get in touch with some legal guys to teach the BMR people a lesson they will remember, this is definitely not the end of story , they simply cannot shut shop and run away, they will be held accountable ....
      Can somebody please find this clown a circus. Is he for real?

      They are not shutting up shop and running away. They are offering a pro-rated refund and in legal terms have actually done nothing wrong.

      The only rules they have broken are those of Google's.

      It is the equivalent of your local shop closing down and going out of business and then you wanting to sue them for it because they misled you by offering a service.

      People that have used BMR were paying for a monthly service, which they got at the time. Now that the service is no longer available they will not be charged for it.

      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      First of all i would like to thank every one who supported me in this fight against the malpractices of Build My Rank, i am glad that this unethical network is now done and dusted with , i also would like to say that if they try and resurface in any form in the future i take it as my personal responsibility to get them banned again...
      Since you have these superpowers, could you put them to real use and solve world hunger.

      Much appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author acatmusic
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      Note - I am trying to get in touch with some legal guys to teach the BMR people a lesson they will remember, this is definitely not the end of story , they simply cannot shut shop and run away, they will be held accountable
      LOL DUDE gtfo and get a life man, 1) you werent even a user why are bi*chn and moaning so much? 2) have you noticed that no BMR users are complaining about them 'shutting shop and running away'??

      also, why would google need you to close BMR? what inside info could you possibly provide their engineers? lol this foo' cheekugames thinks hes deepthroat or something lol :p
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I will miss BMR because I used to love researching through their blogs for all the great 150 words posts I could stomach.

    Am I alone?
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    @Paul Myers - your efforts to keep BMR look like a white lily and the best thing ever in SEO is quite shameful and unworthy of your reputation, you have just deleted one more of my posts where i just asked BMR as to why they lied to their users about closing new registrations,they said they were rebuilding their network while they were not, what did you find offensive in this, have some dignity man you are looking like a paid puppet of BMR here really ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      @Paul Myers - your efforts to keep BMR look like a white lily and the best thing ever in SEO is quite shameful and unworthy of your reputation, you have just deleted one more of my posts where i just asked BMR as to why they lied to their users about closing new registrations,they said they were rebuilding their network while they were not, what did you find offensive in this, have some dignity man you are looking like a paid puppet of BMR here really ...
      Wow. You really are confused, aren't you?


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      • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
        We'll this proves that back links are still king !...because if they did not matter to Google anymore,then they would not bother to go after these blog networks...long live the Back link
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        • Profile picture of the author 1byte
          Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

          We'll this proves that back links are still king !...because if they did not matter to Google anymore,then they would not bother to go after these blog networks...long live the Back link
          That does make me wonder...

          Google appears to have spent some effort in taking down BMR and other networks. If backlinks are losing their importance in the ranking algorithms, as some are saying, then why bother with taking these networks down at all? Just let them lose their effectiveness over time as the power of backlinks diminish. Hmm...
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          • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
            Originally Posted by 1byte View Post

            Google appears to have spent some effort in taking down BMR and other networks. If backlinks are losing their importance in the ranking algorithms, as some are saying, then why bother with taking these networks down at all? Just let them lose their effectiveness over time as the power of backlinks diminish. Hmm...
            Of course backlinks aren't losing their importance. Although I believe that most types of backlinks will soon be irrelevant, as I think Google is trying to build a smarter algorithm to rank sites for these three factors alone:

            1. Great content (I know right, not an easy thing to do).
            2. Authority backlinks (blog links are some of the highest quality backlinks on the internet).
            3. Social (they won't let this one go).

            This is pretty evident so far - they have devalued most other link types, but they didn't want to devalue blog links. Blogs are good, because blogs are media. I believe that blogging is only going to become more popular as time goes, and so does Google. This is exactly why they bothered putting together a "task force" of sorts to take out the trash.

            Great content (and lots of it) is really kicking in at the moment. I've always said in my posts - build easy to navigate, highly informative websites. If you're in any of the many info niches out there - you need a lot of high quality content on your sites to rank good. I have sites with **** load of content and merely 10 high quality backlinks ranking on page one for numerous keywords right now (5k+ exact US search terms) and I don't even use EMD domains.

            .... build good sites, build niche blog networks to support those sites, make monies.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        I was busy before, and didn't want to spend the time right then giving this "cheekugames" twit a proper answer. It really won't make any difference to him, but it may serve as a useful example of the ludicrousness of the conspiracy theory mindset.

        This dude has 14 posts still available on this topic at this point, in this thread alone. Going back to February 11, all 21 of his posts are blasting BMR. He's clearly got his cause on.

        I deleted a couple of over the top insults, and asked him to make his points in a more civil way. Somehow, he managed to read that as defense of what most long-term members will know is a practice I dislike, and consider to be active deception: The manipulation of SERPs by artificial means.

        The conspiracy mindset is apparent in the suggestion that I'm getting paid off by whoever owns BMR to support them here. He has to believe something like that, because admitting that I might have deleted his posts because he was being a jerk isn't something he can even consider.

        The presence of all those other posts, or the comments from other people who consider these types of systems abusive, doesn't register. It's just ... [blank].

        This is what obsession does to you, folks.


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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    For those of you that aren't familiar with cheekugames, here are some facts (instead of wild assertions).

    cheekugames has constantly accused BMR of "unethical practices" and "malpractice".

    Yet, despite repeated requests, he has never stated what these alleged malpractices are.

    It's obvious that cheekugames thinks that by using BMR, you were gaming the system. Well, yes that's true to a degree, but the BIG rub is that cheekugames then uses just about every spammy backlinking method for his own website. That makes him a hypocrite of the highest order.

    Additionally, his YouTube channel contains copyrighted material (please provide proof that you gained permission to post the movie clips and I'll retract that statement).

    Cheekugames, if you want to be consistent with your campaign, then make sure you report your site to Google for unethical practices.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    Sad to see BMR closing, it was good while it lasted and actually had some decent content on some of the blogs as I picked up some great niche ideas from just checking my own posts.

    Of course we should all be using various techniques to get our sites ranked...just a painful reminder !
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    • Profile picture of the author rinor81
      Well...this is a sad day for me.

      I have a keyword that was for almost a year #3 on Google, an aged domain.

      After Panda 3.3 update it got down to #14 or so....

      After BMR yesterday, I so the unnatural links message on webmaster tools for

      this site and now this keyword is #600!

      Think I'll still be able to get it back?


      The sad thing is that I used all my sites on BMR, sites that made me money

      and now they'll get destroyed on the SERPS....


      Ideas?

      Thanks guys...
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      • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
        Originally Posted by rinor81 View Post

        Well...this is a sad day for me.

        I have a keyword that was for almost a year #3 on Google, an aged domain.

        After Panda 3.3 update it got down to #14 or so....

        After BMR yesterday, I so the unnatural links message on webmaster tools for

        this site and now this keyword is #600!

        Think I'll still be able to get it back?


        The sad thing is that I used all my sites on BMR, sites that made me money

        and now they'll get destroyed on the SERPS....


        Ideas?

        Thanks guys...


        Here you are quoting rankings in Google, feeling sad for your self, while delibratly going against Googles rules.
        How about you go quote rankings on a Search Engine that allows fake bought back links.
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        • Profile picture of the author rinor81
          Originally Posted by Ducksauce View Post


          Here you are quoting rankings in Google, feeling sad for your self, while delibratly going against Googles rules.
          How about you go quote rankings on a Search Engine that allows fake bought back links.
          I'm not accusing anyone, yes I feel sorry for my sites and hard work...as if Google is any saint, give me a break.

          People here started a thread, sharing their feelings, ideas and so on and you come here to what? Throw slat on injury?

          Everyone here will rise again, I'll get back building links like I always have and all of them were white hat except BMR so don't come here and play a preacher. I take full responsibilities for my actions, all I did was sharing my hurt that after hard work now it's gone.

          The lesson by the way is that in order to build a successful business, Google needs to be only part of your arsenal and you cannot rely on one source for traffic, never. So, back to the drawing board.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Rinor, I'm really sorry to hear this. My sites will probably fall soon because I used BMR on them. It's a real shame and a waste of six months of work. I haven't got any notices from Google, but I don't have GWTs for my site. So I don't know if they have targeted my site yet or not, but I'm sure that they have.

    I wonder how many individual websites will lose rankings because of the blog networks. I bet BMR was used on thousands of sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Rinor, I'm really sorry to hear this. My sites will probably fall soon because I used BMR on them. It's a real shame and a waste of six months of work. I haven't got any notices from Google, but I don't have GWTs for my site. So I don't know if they have targeted my site yet or not, but I'm sure that they have.

      I wonder how many individual websites will lose rankings because of the blog networks. I bet BMR was used on thousands of sites.
      Hey JeanneLynn, sorry my inbox is full (not a war member haha!), but yeah . I woke up this morning and my friend told me that BMR is no longer available. One of the saddest news I've heard in a long time.

      Nevertheless, we just got to stay positive and understand that this is a business. We'll come back up again, and better than before. It's just unfortunate for all the time that we've devoted into BMR. I remember when I got it a month ago, I would be at the office until 2 am on the weekends just posting on BMR. Thankfully my sites are still up, but I'm sure they will be caught soon. I better start making some backlinks from web 2.0 and some other way.
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    • Profile picture of the author rinor81
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Rinor, I'm really sorry to hear this. My sites will probably fall soon because I used BMR on them. It's a real shame and a waste of six months of work. I haven't got any notices from Google, but I don't have GWTs for my site. So I don't know if they have targeted my site yet or not, but I'm sure that they have.

      I wonder how many individual websites will lose rankings because of the blog networks. I bet BMR was used on thousands of sites.
      Hey Jeanne Lynn,

      Thank you...

      What sad for me is that I am talking about sites I've worked hard for years building and I used not only BMR to promote it but other natural links over the years as well....but enough that Google caught you once building this way and he forgets the other link diversity you have over the years....what can we do?

      I guess that's a lesson to us all, maybe sites which are more important for us just work hard and build links "naturally" if you know what I mean, white hat. Google is getting smarter each time and we always walk a thin line with these service which worked great for me by the way.....up until they get caught and my site is diminished.

      You think it's still possible to get the keywords back from #600 with link building over time?


      Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    I had a feeling something like this would happen because em...it pretty much always does from my past experiences.

    Then something new will come out and be the "hot" thing for a few months to a year..maybe longer.

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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by OmarNegron View Post

      I had a feeling something like this would happen because em...it pretty much always does from my past experiences.

      Then something new will come out and be the "hot" thing for a few months to a year..maybe longer.

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      • Profile picture of the author wendyann
        This might be a dumb question, but what is the point of deleting the posts if all the sites have already been deindexed?
        Seems like a waste of time.
        Many older sites have things like reciprocal links and other stuff that is "on the nose' so what is the difference?

        Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author rinor81
          Originally Posted by wendyann View Post

          This might be a dumb question, but what is the point of deleting the posts if all the sites have already been deindexed?
          Seems like a waste of time.
          Many older sites have things like reciprocal links and other stuff that is "on the nose' so what is the difference?

          Cheers
          Wendy
          Maybe Google hasn't caught all sites yet....so I guess there's no harm trying to delete them.

          I've asked for deletion, so far got a warning for Google on 2 sites but am afraid the others are on the way....unless Google hasn't caught them yet and they'll get deleted in time...who knows?
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        • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
          Originally Posted by wendyann View Post

          This might be a dumb question, but what is the point of deleting the posts if all the sites have already been deindexed?
          Seems like a waste of time.
          Many older sites have things like reciprocal links and other stuff that is "on the nose' so what is the difference?

          Cheers
          Wendy
          Not a silly question at all... there is no point deleting the posts now as Google already have the record of the OBLs on these deindexed sites but people are afraid now and many will receive a Google love letter telling them that they are engaging in artificial link building. Google will go on to tell them to remove all artificial links and file a reconsideration since many of these sites will also be penalized.

          It is the fear factor that is at work now!
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    Update on legal action against BMR owners - I have had a discussion with a lawyer who deals with internet related laws and she has suggested that there is a solid case against BMR, if we can explain the court that such manipulation of Search engine could lead to racist and neo nazi content being promoted as BMR had put together a network of blogs where by they could put any links and promote them in search engines, this was an extremely serious situation though google has taken action but the consequences of such a malpractice could have resulted in potential unrest and social disharmony, thus BMR will be tried for some serious internet crimes for putting together a network solely withe purpose of trying to promote links artificially and that these links could have been any type of links ...........

    thanks every one for your support, together we will teach these BMR people a lesson ....

    @Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....


    Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author treezie
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      Update on legal action against BMR owners - I have had a discussion with a lawyer who deals with internet related laws and she has suggested that there is a solid case against BMR, if we can explain the court that such manipulation of Search engine could lead to racist and neo nazi content being promoted as BMR had put together a network of blogs where by they could put any links and promote them in search engines, this was an extremely serious situation though google has taken action but the consequences of such a malpractice could have resulted in potential unrest and social disharmony, thus BMR will be tried for some serious internet crimes for putting together a network solely withe purpose of trying to promote links artificially and that these links could have been any type of links ...........

      thanks every one for your support, together we will teach these BMR people a lesson ....

      @Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....


      Regards

      You are the biggest troll I've seen in awhile.
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      • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
        Originally Posted by treezie View Post

        You are the biggest troll I've seen in awhile.
        This is what they said when i decided to put an end to the malpractices of BMR about a month ago, do not underestimate a common man's determination to bring about a change and take on the crooks in society like unethical BMR.....
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        • Profile picture of the author acatmusic
          Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

          This is what they said when i decided to put an end to the malpractices of BMR about a month ago, do not underestimate a common man's determination to bring about a change and take on the crooks in society like unethical BMR.....
          Lol you are a 'common' man alright, messed up in the head too tho. Did you take your pills today brah? youre delusional
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    • Profile picture of the author Talen
      Originally Posted by cheekugames View Post

      Update on legal action against BMR owners - I have had a discussion with a lawyer who deals with internet related laws and she has suggested that there is a solid case against BMR, if we can explain the court that such manipulation of Search engine could lead to racist and neo nazi content being promoted as BMR had put together a network of blogs where by they could put any links and promote them in search engines, this was an extremely serious situation though google has taken action but the consequences of such a malpractice could have resulted in potential unrest and social disharmony, thus BMR will be tried for some serious internet crimes for putting together a network solely withe purpose of trying to promote links artificially and that these links could have been any type of links ...........

      thanks every one for your support, together we will teach these BMR people a lesson ....

      @Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....


      Regards
      It's amazing the length to which some people will lie on the internet to make themselves seem important. You didn't contact any lawyers and no lawyer told you there was a case. What specific "internet laws" did BMR break? I know you won't answer this question because you can't. Racist? neo nazi? you must either be a child or a very uneducated member of a third world country...or both. But I digress. I actually pity you, you started this whole tirade because BMR rejected your website from their network...and I have to say they did so for good reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Curry
    I honestly think this Cheekugames guy is having you guys on lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    CheekyDude,
    @Paul Myers-thanks for your support in particular in this fight against BMR....
    You're clearly just trolling. I am not going to waste anyone else's time with you.

    When the ban expires, perhaps you'll consider a more rational tone to your postings.


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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      CheekyDude,You're clearly just trolling. I am not going to waste anyone else's time with you.

      When the ban expires, perhaps you'll consider a more rational tone to your postings.


      Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author acatmusic
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      CheekyDude,You're clearly just trolling. I am not going to waste anyone else's time with you.

      When the ban expires, perhaps you'll consider a more rational tone to your postings.


      Paul
      Thanks for bannin that foo and RIP BMR
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  • Profile picture of the author iprogress
    I got hit a 4 weeks ago on one site and got the wmt's warning on another 2 yesterday. Ah well it was good while it lasted and we made a good amount of money from our rankings.

    The question is is it best to delete the links and tell G they have been deleted and ask for reconsideration or just wait for them to drop naturally, the first site that got hit dropped from #2 to #26 on a competitive keyword. BMR wasn't the only link building we did but it was a good percentage (30% - 40%).
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    • Profile picture of the author rinor81
      Originally Posted by iprogress View Post

      I got hit a 4 weeks ago on one site and got the wmt's warning on another 2 yesterday. Ah well it was good while it lasted and we made a good amount of money from our rankings.

      The question is is it best to delete the links and tell G they have been deleted and ask for reconsideration or just wait for them to drop naturally, the first site that got hit dropped from #2 to #26 on a competitive keyword. BMR wasn't the only link building we did but it was a good percentage (30% - 40%).
      Sam here.

      Have a site which is up for 2.5-3 years, was on #3 for a long time, went down to #14 after panda 3.3 and with BMR now it's #600...

      BMR was only one part of the link building process to it but I guess it was enough to "kill" it. Will file a re-consideration maybe in a few weeks when things cool off a little bit and keep building links again to it....see how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author aa411853
    To further elaborate, this will download all posts for every domain (whether the project/domain has since been deleted or archived).
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
      Originally Posted by aa411853 View Post

      To further elaborate, this will download all posts for every domain (whether the project/domain has since been deleted or archived).
      Thanks for doing that,much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author RatRaceWatch
    I have been absorbing a lot of information since yesterday from various blogs, forums, and other online communities on what is going on.

    First a little background on what happened to me:

    I had a website that was on page 1 for keywords that had 90,000 & 12,000+ searches a month along with 100's of long tail keywords.

    Relying heavily on BMR was the easy approach and it did have its rewards, it helped my websites make money. I took that money and invested it back into my main site, more content, created an original design, (hell, I was even sick of other competitors using the same stock photography as me, so I had my photographer gf get two models to be on the new front of my website (photos I knew if I saw anywhere else would be getting a take down notice from me since we own the full rights).

    I've been through a lot of ups and downs, adsense disabled, unnatural links notice, and now the deindexing of a huge backlink component of my websites.

    So what does this all mean:

    For those that are panicking and jumping off the ship (metaphorically), you really need to ask yourselves if you truly know how to handle failure.

    Failure is a necessary evil, and it can be a very tough road to the top. As of now its unclear what googles true intentions are with these changes, here are the possible scenarios:

    1. Google truly wants to clean up their search engine and produce results with white hat methods only (how this is going to be possible boggles my mind since now I hear people preaching about owning your own private network aka still gaming the system).

    Or

    2. Google wants to set itself up for people that truly want to traffic to go through adwords, and they want to make it much much harder for the poor man to have a fighting chance.

    Think about it, if you have the budget, you can buy anything in the world, entry to a network, social media followers, a guest post on a well-known blog, the idea of the system never being gamed is a joke since quality content is subjective.

    So if this is the case, (one of the theories) is that if you're just starting out your going to need a great amount of money to start to compete, buying into google, buying your guest posts, etc., which means people that made a good amount of money from gaming the system over the previous years won't have trouble adapting as well as wealthier people beginning to enter the game.


    I also see a lot of people freaking out on what to do due to the webmasters notice of unnatural links. I've seen well-known bloggers say they are not going to respond to google at all and not remove any links, while others have said to remove links and contact google either taking full responsibility or blaming competitors or an SEO company you hired (whether you did or not).

    THE SOLUTION:

    So despite all the theories out there, I believe the best approach is requesting to remove the links from BMR (I just did), contacting google, make sure the links are almost gone first, being upfront about what you did, and watching what happens.

    For those of us that have truly quality websites, we may face a penalty for awhile (I know it sucks), but I doubt google will keep us out for long.
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    • Profile picture of the author rinor81
      Originally Posted by RatRaceWatch View Post

      I have been absorbing a lot of information since yesterday from various blogs, forums, and other online communities on what is going on.

      First a little background on what happened to me:

      I had a website that was on page 1 for keywords that had 90,000 & 12,000+ searches a month along with 100's of long tail keywords.

      Relying heavily on BMR was the easy approach and it did have its rewards, it helped my websites make money. I took that money and invested it back into my main site, more content, created an original design, (hell, I was even sick of other competitors using the same stock photography as me, so I had my photographer gf get two models to be on the new front of my website (photos I knew if I saw anywhere else would be getting a take down notice from me since we own the full rights).

      I've been through a lot of ups and downs, adsense disabled, unnatural links notice, and now the deindexing of a huge backlink component of my websites.

      So what does this all mean:

      For those that are panicking and jumping off the ship (metaphorically), you really need to ask yourselves if you truly know how to handle failure.

      Failure is a necessary evil, and it can be a very tough road to the top. As of now its unclear what googles true intentions are with these changes, here are the possible scenarios:

      1. Google truly wants to clean up their search engine and produce results with white hat methods only (how this is going to be possible boggles my mind since now I hear people preaching about owning your own private network aka still gaming the system).

      Or

      2. Google wants to set itself up for people that truly want to traffic to go through adwords, and they want to make it much much harder for the poor man to have a fighting chance.

      Think about it, if you have the budget, you can buy anything in the world, entry to a network, social media followers, a guest post on a well-known blog, the idea of the system never being gamed is a joke since quality content is subjective.

      So if this is the case, (one of the theories) is that if you're just starting out your going to need a great amount of money to start to compete, buying into google, buying your guest posts, etc., which means people that made a good amount of money from gaming the system over the previous years won't have trouble adapting as well as wealthier people beginning to enter the game.


      I also see a lot of people freaking out on what to do due to the webmasters notice of unnatural links. I've seen well-known bloggers say they are not going to respond to google at all and not remove any links, while others have said to remove links and contact google either taking full responsibility or blaming competitors or an SEO company you hired (whether you did or not).

      THE SOLUTION:

      So despite all the theories out there, I believe the best approach is requesting to remove the links from BMR (I just did), contacting google, make sure the links are almost gone first, being upfront about what you did, and watching what happens.

      For those of us that have truly quality websites, we may face a penalty for awhile (I know it sucks), but I doubt google will keep us out for long.
      Great post, thank for sharing!

      I also asked from BMR today to remove my links...question is what will happen first? Will they remove the links or Google get to the site first and de-index it. Fingers crossed.

      It's a shame really but I guess it's a lesson learnt, let's keep building links and with time hopefully restore our sites rankings and trust.
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      • Profile picture of the author kristeena
        It is a good lesson for all of us.

        We should never waste our time anymore on private network. It very easy for the Google to identify and deindex the private networks overnight as there is clear footprint all the way.

        Soon all other bigger private networks will also get deindexed.

        It is much safer to use the public blog networks & Web.2.0 links.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    You guys know that message that Google has sent to almost a million webmasters over the last couple of months? That is how Google tracked down BMR. That message was just a scare tactic, many people reported receiving it for sites that they hadn't even built backlinks to yet. Many people responded to that message by telling Google that they used BMR (or other blog networks) to build links, Google looked into their link profile and that is how they tracked down BMR sites. Pretty sneaky trick if you ask me...
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  • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
    Okay people... BMR is NOT a "private" but a public blog network. Everyone and their grandmother knows about BMR, so this indexing is not surprising.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
      Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

      Okay people... BMR is NOT a "private" but a public blog network. Everyone and their grandmother knows about BMR, so this indexing is not surprising.
      I'm really surprised it didn't happen sooner considering their size but I guess Google's techs were concentrating on more pressing matters.
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    • Profile picture of the author movemaker
      Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

      Okay people... BMR is NOT a "private" but a public blog network. Everyone and their grandmother knows about BMR, so this indexing is not surprising.
      I agree. That is what happens when the masses use one network...
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  • Profile picture of the author Krakenkin
    I have been using BMR for 8 of my clients and have gotten good results from it. While I am sad about Uncle 'G's action on BMR's network, I wish all the folks at BMR well and will continue to support you all for newer initiatives in the future.

    PS: I'm not sure about deleting the previously indexed posts simply because it's kinda tedious and I felt it's harmless to leave them there since G already knows those sites and warn all wm's out there lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author aa411853
    Guys, we've added another link on the dashboard (Delete All My Links) that you can use to request deletion on all links for every domain in your account (active, archived, deleted or whatever).

    It may take 1-2 weeks to get all of these processed.
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  • Profile picture of the author movemaker
    The key to all these Blog Networks being successful is keeping them small and tight. If they get to large and the masses use the same networks and backlinks on all their sites Google will recognize this and destroy it.

    What we all have to understand that Google hates people like us that can do what we wish with their search engine. Matt Cutts even admitted it himself that their main goal is to get rid of people that "abuse" the search engine.

    By the way Google just announced that they are going to start penalizing websites that are over optimized.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
    The quality of BMR posts varied dramatically. They were usually rather short, but some were at least coherent English, others spun garbage.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alminc
      I had thousands of BMR links...all gone. Thousands of dollars down the toilet. I'll never again do any SEO, only paid ads.
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      • Profile picture of the author MarQueteer
        Originally Posted by Alminc View Post

        I had thousands of BMR links...all gone. Thousands of dollars down the toilet. I'll never again do any SEO, only paid ads.
        Just don't put all your eggs in one basket and you are fine. SEO works perfectly if you diversify.
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