Senuke, AMR, Article MKT, Web 2.0... does these links still matters?

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I always find posts around here about people using these techniques and methods to rank for keywords... posts such as this:

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...y-keyword.html

but when you do your keyword research and check your competition, all you see is backlinks from related sites..

I have seen very few backlinks from sites like article directory (ezine, go articles) or web 2.0 sites (scribd, tumblr, zimbio)...

What is your backlink strategy? would you use a service like senuke for instance, or would you try to copy the backlink strategy of your competition?
#amr #article #links #matters #mkt #senuke #web
  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Personally I think these tools are becoming quickly outdated in addition to those old 2008 methods that most internet marketers use.
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    • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Personally I think these tools are becoming quickly outdated in addition to those old 2008 methods that most internet marketers use.
      People always say this but there is not 1 technique I can think of that doesn't work anymore.

      Forum profiles - I still have sites ranking highly solely off of forum profiles.
      blog comments - I still have sites ranking #1 with nothing but blog comments.

      Im assuming those are the "outdated" methods people are referring to. Things get dialed down as far as power from Googles algorithm but every link still works. If you know how to use Web 2.0 and article directories they can be very powerful especially for low-med comp keywords. I can tell you to this day 1000 forum profiles is still WAY more powerful then 1000 twitter tweets or Facebook likes.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

        People always say this but there is not 1 technique I can think of that doesn't work anymore.

        Forum profiles - I still have sites ranking highly solely off of forum profiles.
        blog comments - I still have sites ranking #1 with nothing but blog comments.

        Im assuming those are the "outdated" methods people are referring to. Things get dialed down as far as power from Googles algorithm but every link still works. If you know how to use Web 2.0 and article directories they can be very powerful especially for low-med comp keywords. I can tell you to this day 1000 forum profiles is still WAY more powerful then 1000 twitter tweets or Facebook likes.
        It's not about the methods, it has more to do with changing your mentality. This is 2012 and your still talking about techniques form 4 years ago. Many marketers including myself who used these methods have been hit with a penalty of some kind.

        I made a mistake following what everybody else was doing instead of being my own man and doing things the right way, and my business suffered.

        Blast spam if you want in time I don't even think buffer sites will be safe.

        I just don't understand why people keep trying to scam google, do things the right way and you have nothing to worry about except what to do with all the money your making .


        I respect you and your opinions and if these methods still work for you than I wish you good luck , hopefully you wont receive a penalty like so many others.
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        • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          It's not about the methods, it has more to do with changing your mentality. This is 2012 and your still talking about techniques form 4 years ago. Many marketers including myself who used these methods have been hit with a penalty of some kind.

          I made a mistake following what everybody else was doing instead of being my own man and doing things the right way, and my business suffered.

          Blast spam if you want in time I don't even think buffer sites will be safe.

          I just don't understand why people keep trying to scam google, do things the right way and you have nothing to worry about except what to do with all the money your making .


          I respect you and your opinions and if these methods still work for you than I wish you good luck , hopefully you wont receive a penalty like so many others.
          Im not sure what "The right way" is that you are referring to. Not everything on the internet needs to be a long term strategy. Some times hit it hard and run can make incredible money. To me the right way are things that work. I didn't get into internet marketing to tip toe around Google, I got into it to make money and rank sites. Ive seen Yahoo, Myspace and other "Too Big To Fail" websites go down the drain to care what Google wants me to do. Sure play by the rules and then when Google decides hmm… all sites targeting long tail keywords are spam, bam algo change or something of that nature. There is no solid ground when it comes to search regardless of what Google wants people to think. Thats why taking advantage of opportunities and strategies is imperative to a lucrative online business.

          Forum profiles, blog comments, web 2.0's all still do this effectively when you know how to use them. Sure blasting 10000 Xrumer links at your money site will probably do more harm then good but that isn't the only way to use these links. I respect your opinions but to call these methods "outdated" when they still work effectively might make you personally feel better about your strategy but its just false. If I still have websites ranking for years off of spammy links then how did things change so much? And when will they change? 2 years from now? Well thats 2 years of making $20 a day off that website. That sounds like a good plan to me. Do these methods work as well as they once did… of course not but they still work and they always have and thats what matters.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

            Im not sure what "The right way" is that you are referring to. Not everything on the internet needs to be a long term strategy. Some times hit it hard and run can make incredible money. To me the right way are things that work. I didn't get into internet marketing to tip toe around Google, I got into it to make money and rank sites. Ive seen Yahoo, Myspace and other "Too Big To Fail" websites go down the drain to care what Google wants me to do. Sure play by the rules and then when Google decides hmm... all sites targeting long tail keywords are spam, bam algo change or something of that nature. There is no solid ground when it comes to search regardless of what Google wants people to think. Thats why taking advantage of opportunities and strategies is imperative to a lucrative online business.

            Forum profiles, blog comments, web 2.0's all still do this effectively when you know how to use them. Sure blasting 10000 Xrumer links at your money site will probably do more harm then good but that isn't the only way to use these links. I respect your opinions but to call these methods "outdated" when they still work effectively might make you personally feel better about your strategy but its just false. If I still have websites ranking for years off of spammy links then how did things change so much? And when will they change? 2 years from now? Well thats 2 years of making $20 a day off that website. That sounds like a good plan to me. Do these methods work as well as they once did... of course not but they still work and they always have and thats what matters.
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      • Profile picture of the author MarkBerrgIM
        Yes. Agreed and confirmed from my end. Forum profiles still hold a little weight. I started with sepuke x a long while ago, got fed up, then went manually, got fed up again, and learned to do my own automation. it works pretty well now, but was a pain in the beginning to set up. Now, i use a combination of manual, a little social, and automation.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

        People always say this but there is not 1 technique I can think of that doesn't work anymore.

        Forum profiles - I still have sites ranking highly solely off of forum profiles.
        Sorry Dp but so what? they ARE dead. You can have sites rank with no backlinks so what does saying you have sites ranking with them mean? Its enough that you can't find any even half way competitive serp ruling any serp without having to rely on something else for real juice. Vinyl records are dead. Doesn't mean there are still not people who use them (and make some nice cash selling them too). Now if only people could find a way of selling forum backlinks as antiques then people round here would be rich. ROFL

        Do you ave any idea of how many Senukex backlink providers have tried to crack top three in this serp and can't

        https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=...66a72422fd9740

        blog comments - I still have sites ranking #1 with nothing but blog comments.
        I don't know that many people who say blog comments are dead. They can be done all kinds of ways not just blasting


        I can tell you to this day 1000 forum profiles is still WAY more powerful then 1000 twitter tweets or Facebook likes.
        True but that says more about tweets than it does about forum profiles.
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        • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Sorry Dp but so what? they ARE dead. You can have sites rank with no backlinks so what does saying you have sites ranking with them mean? Its enough that you can't find any even half way competitive serp ruling any serp without having to rely on something else for real juice. Vinyl records are dead. Doesn't mean there are still not people who use them (and make some nice cash selling them too). Now if only people could find a way of selling forum backlinks as antiques then people round here would be rich. ROFL

          Do you ave any idea of how many Senukex backlink providers have tried to crack top three in this serp and can't
          Mike dripping 100 blog comments and xrumer links everyday to a site for a month, then add 3 high PR homepage links and it'll do wonders. Your rankings will be better then if you didn't use those 100 drip fed spammy links. Try it out for fun on a 1 page throw away site. To me that means they have value. To each his own though.

          I don't think anyone expects top 3 from spammy links these days, but Top 15 and then bring in the big guns for the last push. It all still has value. I'll say it again. Not everything on the internet needs to be a long term strategy. Some times hit it hard and run can make incredible money.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    Content plus social > backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    Im focusing more on getting more social rather than blasting out articles to the content network. It's safer this way to avoid getting problem with google nowaday
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  • Profile picture of the author Rajinder
    I am using Senuke x.
    I use my own Hidden techniques which are highly seccessfull and all my clients are very happy with the work.
    No need to copy compititors..
    Thanks,
    ricky
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Rajinder View Post

      I am using Senuke x.
      I use my own Hidden techniques which are highly seccessfull and all my clients are very happy with the work.
      No need to copy compititors..
      Thanks,
      ricky
      LOL. said the guy selling senukex services. There are no Hidden techniques for senukex. You can arrange weak links in any order they still remain weak. any great juice beyond the norm you bring into the equation is juice outside of those weak links and outside of what SenukeX can provide.

      Plus I can tell you either don't have many clients. With the way the world is You will always have at least one unsatisfied customer. I have had clients I got to number one that were not satisfied.
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  • Profile picture of the author yookerseo
    I'm not really sure if they are still valuable after the latest Google algorithm (especially using Senuke X). Private blog networks like UAW, BMR and AMA receive a big "OUCH" from the Big G. Most of their blogs got de-indexed, so I think articles, Web 2.0's are going to be affected as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author lossman29
    I still use Senuke and Xrumer. DOn't see any reason to stop. IF it ain't broke it, don't fix it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
    The days of spammy backlinks are beyond saturated. People need to figure out their own, unique ways to get ranked nowadays or they will not survive. Google has become far more wise and is aware of all the tricks at play.
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