Question about ARTICLE+SPINNING

metalice

14 years ago

any ideas guys??? thanks.....

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jinx1221

14 years ago

Why say "spun vs. quality"? Why can't spun be quality? Lol!! I suggest using a tool like TBS, but then spin at all levels.. paragraph, sentence, then word/phrase.. dont use every word in the dictionary (be human), and proofread afterwards.

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nik0

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Why say "spun vs. quality"? Why can't spun be quality? Lol!! I suggest using a tool like TBS, but then spin at all levels.. paragraph, sentence, then word/phrase.. dont use every word in the dictionary (be human), and proofread afterwards.

Totally agree, the fact that people think spinning is just clicking a single button makes everyone assume spinning is a poor practise.

One of my clients just passed me a huge spin pressrelease that gets accepted by all the major pressrelease sites, no not talking about the free ones, talking about sites that charge $369,- for a single press release like PRweb.com

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nik0 Banned 14 years ago

Btw why are you going from one extreme to the other as in $20 for an article or $1,-. Perhaps when you look in the price range of $5/500 words you can still find decent enough articles. And you don't have to use an unique article for each site, you can easily use the same piece of content 10-20 times without it losing it's value when linking back.

Why you think all these people upload articles to Ezines? So that people will post it on their blog or site with a link back to the author, that is called article syndication.

So instead of buying 20 articles for $400,- you can just buy 1 article for $20,- and use it 20 times.
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- The Expert 14 years ago
  
  Auto-spinning will never work because synonnym repositories do not take into consideration the concept of language. Certain words fit together in a certain way and only a human can produce that properly. The only way to spin content and get really on-point results in the end is to utilize pharagraph/sentence level spinning. This works, but it's only marginally cheaper.
  
  One way to do it is to get an article and pay different writers on Fiverr to rewrite it for you. Then take all of those and spin each sentence in each of the articles completely 3 times. In this case you'd have a 5^9 or 1,953,125 different variations...and all would read properly if the original writers did a good job.
  
  If took the same 5 paragraph article, had it rewritten 5 times, and then rewrote each sentence in each of these articles 5 times you have 5^25 or 2.98*10^17 different unique variations. This is a bit of an overkill so I usually stick to rewriting articles 3 times and then the sentences 3 times.
  
  In the end it takes the same amount of time as writing 9 versions of the same article (3x9=9) so if you need significantly more than 9 versions of that article such as in an article blast, this method works well and the languague of each finished article it top-knotch. You can check out Vita Vee's service The Leading Articles if you want to know more about this type of spinning.
  
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  Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago
  
  I can suggest six little items to read, which offer some insight ...
  
  (i) This post explains the benefits of spinning;
  
  (ii) This post, and its links, explain how article directories really work and why they exist;
  
  (iii) The first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles;
  
  (iv) The advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here;
  
  (v) On the meaning and significance of "duplicate content", in this context, this little post from expert article marketer Anne Pottinger includes direct quotations from Google's WebMaster Central Blog on the subject (not easy to find a more authoritative source than that!);
  
  (vi) This little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject.
  
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OneManSEO

14 years ago

Why spin? Eventually Google's algorithm will catch up to the unreadable crap the gets spit out by spinning machines. I rank plenty of websites without ever spinning a single word...you are wasting your time(and money).

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metalice

14 years ago

thank you Alexa! - but i do have a question about articles syndication , how does it work?

how a publisher is getting to read you article? - the publisher is manually entering to EZine site and search & copy articles? - the publisher connect is blog to the EZine category RSS and its automatically post?

why the publisher wont strip you link?

what are the best Ezine sites today? do you post manually to all of those sites?

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Nicola Lane

14 years ago

I’m sure Alexa will be back soon with her own answers – but in the mean time may I suggest that you read the threads she linked to – they will answer most of your questions. I also have a few answers myself:

Originally Posted by metalice

but i do have a question about articles syndication , how does it work?

Essentially webmasters and newsletter publishers who need some content for their site or newsletter – and who don’t want to write all of it themselves - look for content elsewhere.

When they get established they will often have people who regularly send them articles for them to reprint. They may also go and search for it.

Originally Posted by metalice

how a publisher is getting to read you article? - the publisher is manually entering to EZine site and search & copy articles?

Yes, that is it essentially – people who need an article will go to a reputable source and find an article which is a good fit for their needs.

Originally Posted by metalice

the publisher connect is blog to the EZine category RSS and its automatically post?

NO, there are some autoblogs that do this – but the updates that Google is running out make this a bad strategy.

The people you really want to connect with don’t do this – there are too many articles and most of them are not worth republishing.

Originally Posted by metalice

why the publisher wont strip you link?

Why would they? Most reputable sites don’t get to be reputable by doing such silly things.

Originally Posted by metalice

what are the best Ezine sites today? do you post manually to all of those sites?

There is really only one – ezinearticles – so posting manually isn’t difficult, however, to make it even easier ezinearticles has a wordpress plugin.

There may be a few others that are worthwhile, this will vary by niche and writer. There are not enough worth publishing to that you will need any automated tools.

Hope this helps.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 14 years ago

Thank you ...

If it adds anything helpful to Nicola's comprehensive answers above, there's a kind of one-post outline summary of what I actually do, myself, here.

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metalice

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Thank you ...

If it adds anything helpful to Nicola's comprehensive answers above, there's a kind of one-post outline summary of what I actually do, myself, here.

what are the sites you are using for submitting the articles after, they indexed in your site? only ezinearticles.com ?

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jay walters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by metalice

hi

for a good piece of article i will pay at least 20$ , now when you are building links, the best links are contextual, with article/blogpost /etc.
when I build 10-20 links per day I cant afford my self spending 200-400 ($) per day or so... even in a whole a week, on only articles.

so there is 2 options (as i see it)

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1. get cheaper articles (lower quality/cheap [good] writer - hard to find!) and pay 1$ per 500 words.. - if you can direct me in this direction, i will appreciate it, and please dont send me to freelancer sites and tell me you will get there, i tired, i looked, only writers from the east (india, etc..) would agree for 1$ per piece, and it will be bad quality.

2. spin the articles. - up to 80% or so.. no? that what you need to be counted as unique content right? - well i have the TBS, ive used it several times, but the spun articles that comes out from that are really bad. mostly not understood and wont pass human approve after submitting. - DO YOU KNOW A FAST & EASY WAY TO SPIN? while the quality is still good, using the TBS or other methods? maybe a fivver gig? a person from here that is making spun articles, but with good results?

q: i think the spun option is the best, from 1 spun article of 500 words, 80% unique you can get something like 1000 versions, is that true?

i know many of you have the same issue, SPUN VS. QUALITY - what is your solution? would LOVE to hear!:rolleyes::confused:

thank you!

Matan

I get my writing people from the Philippines.

I have a few people who can write well. Not @ $1 though for 500 words.
They charge me anywhere from $5 to $15... high quality.

There's this person who "gets" marketing and his team can write really
well... They're usually booked though, but i can hook you up if you need
em.

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Magento developer

14 years ago

Don't go for spinning article, sure this will lead you problem in future. Better you go for quality articles for $5-$8 is normal price.

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leewiggins

14 years ago

I find spun articles are good if the content you provide is resourceful and compelling and offer a good solution to a problem, alot of people associate spinning articles with spam, this is not the case in all situations, especially mine!! I like to spin articles to 200% at least, check out spinnerchief its a brilliant FREE option, Its all about getting found in the search engines by multiple avenues not just keeping your eggs in one basket.

Find what works for your individual marketing strategy and stick with it, a good tip when spinning if you got the hang of spin syntax that is

is to create to similar sentences for every sentance in the article, much like having two articles murged into one, then start the spinning

hope this helps

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delton yell

14 years ago

Spun your articles with article spinning software. Many article marketers believe that article spinning helps avoid the feared penalties in the Search Engine Results Pages (SERP) for using duplicate content.

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seotrafficsearch

14 years ago

Go for manually written articles. Spun articles can be detected advanced tools. You never get the human touch in spinned articles.

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