First Penguin Refresh: Penguin 1.1 ?

rinor81

14 years ago

No changes, all sites are buried deep at #600+

Will build new sites now, that's the plan.

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- sadeeshbala 14 years ago
  
  My websites are not affected and no ranking changes
  
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- Bambu 14 years ago
  
  Neither of my large sites have recovered. I attempted to dilute my over optimized anchor text by posting generic and raw URL anchored backlinks using social bookmarks, wikis, and article marketing. I suspect that Google has not found all of these backlinks as of yet. So I am unsure that this strategy works or not. I guess I will have to wait for Penguin 1.2 to be sure.
  
  Luckily, I still get a good amount of traffic from Yahoo and Bing to one of these sites and I still rank for the long tail keywords.
  
  I have built two new properties to replace my slapped sites. One is already ranking in the top 3 for its main keywords. The other I just started up. If my old sites don't recover in 30 days. I will have replacements ready for them by then.
  
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- maheshr 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeWike
  
  Hey rinor81,
  
  600+ seems like it's not hit by penguin. It looks like it's some different penalty. Are you sure you got hit by penguin?
  
  Mine also got a #600+ penalty for most keywords. I got unnatural link message in WMT on Mar 29. After 1 week my site throwed from front page to #600+ . Is it penguin or something else?
  
  I am targeting around 6 keywords on homepage. Now 2 keywords showing homepage on around #50 to #70 the positions. Main keywods are showing home page on 66th page or beyond #600 th positions but one inner page having few backlinks is ranking around #50 positions. What kind of penalty is this? I am patiently waiting since 2 months.
  
  Is waiting even more worth? or should I start with a new domain? considering my niche is very easy and it will only take 1 or 2 months to get a front page ranking.
  
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- Neville Pettersson 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeWike
  
  Hey rinor81,
  
  600+ seems like it's not hit by penguin. It looks like it's some different penalty. Are you sure you got hit by penguin?
  
  Over optimization penalties do exist. Whether they are Penguin based it not known; Anchor Text Optimization – How Much Is Too Much? « Jonathan Leger – SEO And Internet Marketing Blog
  
  I know this myself because my own sites which dropped from #1 down to #500+ are not from lost backlinks.
  
  It's a penalty for sure.
  
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pons_saravanan

14 years ago

No changes yet.

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toman

14 years ago

It is the same, no change!

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addyj672

14 years ago

My all websites are save, i just checked... no change...

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adamv

14 years ago

I have not noticed any changes yet either but it would be great if some of my pages returned to their original rankings.

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Bob Graham

14 years ago

No changes yet.

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fortony 14 years ago

I've noticed most of my sites that were hit have come back some in the last couple weeke
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Neville Pettersson

14 years ago

Just checked my WMT and the data hasn't been refreshed for me yet. Still showing old backlinks etc. I'm waiting until that happens to decide what to do next.

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kimhannah

14 years ago

My sites got hit and they were buried down to hell

Affect 0.1% of the results? Maybe I'll be counted in

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trustumar 14 years ago

1 of my site has been penalized. Lost all ranking and traffic. None of the keywords is in top 50.
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andishm

14 years ago

Hello,
My Websites donot get any ranking changes.

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slowdriver

14 years ago

Yep my money site just got hit
went from
number 1 and 2 in google for my keywords to #27 and 34
damn it!

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cooler1 14 years ago

For most sites I don't see any positive changes unfortunatly, but one of my sites which got affected by Penguin, is now on page 1 for its main keyword.

The only change I did since Penguin rolled out (26th April), was change the backlink anchor text so less backlinks are targetting the main keyword. However, according to Bing Webmaster tools inbound links report data, it doesn't have the updated anchor text listed so I don't know if changing the anchor text had any positive effect.
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- rob1123 14 years ago
  
  Matts tweet says it effects <.1 searches, its probable that this has effected only those who were unfairly hit by penguin and submitted a complaint.
  
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JPRoss

14 years ago

One site that was unaffected by Penguin 1.0 was bashed last night by Penguin 1.1.

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oursmartweb

14 years ago

I totally didn't get hit until this one today.

If web spam is indeed such a big deal to Google, they need to make even more advanced software in Webmaster Tools that can actually address the quality of your links.

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Don Halbert

14 years ago

To be honest this one hit me the worst of all of them.

I had a site the I'd received warning for irregular back linking back in March -- then over the past months nothing -- it remained steady in the top of Page 1.

Now last night...its now #80 and many keywords dropped right off the charts.

I believe its in error but then again...who can I talk to at Google? Nobody. Its brutal. It's not a "money site" or an "affiliate site" or anything like that either...its a news portal site.

To top it all off I had some lunatic SEO stalker guy doing negative SEO on me so if anyone tells you it doesn't work...they're dead wrong.

What have I learned? Start knocking off your competitors with negative SEO by building spammy links to their sites. They'll be knocked off in no time.

These guys are the Nazi's of the Internet when they want to be.

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oursmartweb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Don Halbert

To be honest this one hit me the worst of all of them.

I had a site the I'd received warning for irregular back linking back in March -- then over the past months nothing -- it remained steady in the top of Page 1.

Now last night...its now #80 and many keywords dropped right off the charts.

I believe its in error but then again...who can I talk to at Google? Nobody. Its brutal. It's not a "money site" or an "affiliate site" or anything like that either...its a news portal site.

To top it all off I had some lunatic SEO stalker guy doing negative SEO on me so if anyone tells you it doesn't work...they're dead wrong.

What have I learned? Start knocking off your competitors with negative SEO by building spammy links to their sites. They'll be knocked off in no time.

These guys are the Nazi's of the Internet when they want to be.

Don,

I had a guy offer me $25 to "off" my competition by blasting them with 1,000,000 backlinks. I think this totally unethical and I feel for you. I can't believe how cold people can be when it comes to money. Hang in there my friend.

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MikeFriedman 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Don Halbert

To top it all off I had some lunatic SEO stalker guy doing negative SEO on me so if anyone tells you it doesn't work...they're dead wrong.

Just curious, but how do you know someone was doing negative SEO? I'm not doubting you. I'm just always looking for information.
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- Don Halbert 14 years ago
  
  He gloated about it all over the place and even registered domains purely to slander me. Google slammed him also but still...goes to show the effects of negative SEO can/will work.
  
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TheProgrammer

14 years ago

No change at all.

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nik0

Banned 14 years ago

Nothing changed here, page 1 that is printed in my head is also exactly the same as how it was before.

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oursmartweb

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sohib

if some of my pages returned to their original rankings, I have not noticed any changes yet either but it would be great.One site that was unaffected by Penguin 1.0 was bashed last night by Penguin 1.1.

Hello, mine too. What do you think was the culprit on your end?

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Don Halbert

14 years ago

The SEO world is full of egotistical lunatics that have nothing better to do.

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tenovid 14 years ago

The Penguin already killed my 3 blogs. All regular keyword did not show any one post from my blog.
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Pathway Insurance

14 years ago

The penguin update was completed several weeks ago yet my site was not affected until last Tuesday. (5-22-12) My best keyword had me ranked between position 2-4 on page one of google. Auto insurance Cincinnati. Now I'm no where to be found. I did focus on backlink anchor texts as Auto insurance cincinnati. The percentage is only about 6% compared to my other keywords inks.

What is extremely confusing is that I checked competitors that previously never showed up on the radar and they now are on page 1 of google, but what is almost difficult to grasp is that one of the now page 1 competitors has over 50% of his links auto insurance Cincinnati, and another has significantly more than my 6%!

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oursmartweb

14 years ago

It's probably ALL about the AdWords... and the lack of money they are getting from SEO's taking over the organic results.

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Steadyon 14 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeWike

Hey rinor81,

600+ seems like it's not hit by penguin. It looks like it's some different penalty. Are you sure you got hit by penguin?

Why do you think this may not be Penguin. It absolutely could be if it happened close to the first roll out. 600+ drop could still be Penguin.

Originally Posted by Don Halbert

These guys are the Nazi's of the Internet when they want to be.

At least with the Nazi's you knew where you stood. With Google these days they often say one thing and do another...
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garethowen

14 years ago

Im going to make bold claim. Test getting rid of Analytics and webmaster tools on a few sites and see what happens. Even Google cannot monitor every site on the net so why give them the information that may go against you. It is logical to assume that sites linked with analytics and webmaster would be the prime choice for Google. The key issue with the recent updates is that SEO simply has not changed that much. Google has just got better at policing it. Tools like analytics and webmaster help them keep an eye on what you are doing.

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retsek

14 years ago

Originally Posted by garethowen

Im going to make bold claim. Test getting rid of Analytics and webmaster tools on a few sites and see what happens. Even Google cannot monitor every site on the net so why give them the information that may go against you. It is logical to assume that sites linked with analytics and webmaster would be the prime choice for Google. The key issue with the recent updates is that SEO simply has not changed that much. Google has just got better at policing it. Tools like analytics and webmaster help them keep an eye on what you are doing.

It's idiotic to think you can hide from Google by removing (or not using) Webmaster Tools or Analytics. Tools like GA and WMT primarily help you. If you don't want your data in GA to be shared anonymously and in aggregate, then they have an option to disable all data sharing.

In this age, a good SEO will NEED to monitor his link reports in WMT like a hawk. You'd basically be blind if you don't have WMT. The third party tools are lacking.

If you have hundreds or thousands of spammy sites, then yeah ..it might a good idea to put them on separate hosting and avoiding linking them together.

But if you're going after a sustainable, long-term traffic source from Google, you should have NOTHING to hide. If one were to believe your statements, you'd think good sites would be rewarded for having good metrics which can be seen from giving Google access with WMT or GA, but we all know that ain't so.

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DeskCoder

14 years ago

Had one of my small affiliate sites drop. Had 3 keywords in top 3 position, now my Privacy Policy is my top ranking page.

Going to throw at least 10 pages of new content at it, and some quality backlinks and see what happens.

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Societic

14 years ago

There are at least a dussin better alternatives to WMT and GA out there.
No need to use Googles solutions

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zaco 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Societic

There are at least a dussin better alternatives to WMT and GA out there.
No need to use Googles solutions

There is nothing compared to the WMT, which tool will tell u the impressions of a keyword you are ranking for without the user clicking on it? if you didn't know that you are ranking and nobody clicked then you wont know.
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- limestone614 14 years ago
  
  All looking good to me.
  
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Jool

14 years ago

Our website affected by the penguin update.

Buried on serps.

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yukon

Banned 14 years ago

Still ranking first page on plenty of new/old keywords, don't really care about penguins or any other animals...

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Ben Armstrong

14 years ago

During the first update I had one site that jumped up for quite a few keywords. It went from roughly 40 UV's a day to 200+ a day. After this last update it looks like traffic has dropped down to about 100 UV's a day.

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Ben Armstrong

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong

During the first update I had one site that jumped up for quite a few keywords. It went from roughly 40 UV's a day to 200+ a day. After this last update it looks like traffic has dropped down to about 100 UV's a day.

On further investigation of my site, it looks like the main keyword is still ranked number 1 but I've lost a heap of ground on many of the secondary and longtail keywords. Not sure what to make of this.

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computermesh

14 years ago

No noticeable ranking loss on most of my sites pages and on several pages a 2 or 3 position increase to put me in either the first second or third spots on page one. Never really paid much attention to G's algo updates or the cute animal names there given.

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Don Halbert 14 years ago

My problem with recent updates by Google is the vulnerability factor to negative SEO. The entire idea that some competitor can fire a ton of shady low quality backlinks at you and get you deindexed is frightening to say the least.
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ExploringInfinity

14 years ago

Not many of my sites are doing very well.

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radivoj

14 years ago

some of my sites went up in the ranking...

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