SEO Tools Comparison (SEnuke X, Xrumer, Scrapebox, AMR, BF SEO, BMD, Sick Submitter,Magic Submitter)

adrixe

14 years ago

Thanks for the comparison!

W/c is better or the bang for the buck! with high success rate.

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FredJones 14 years ago

Neat post. Will be great for people who are in the buying mode.

By the way, since this is the SEO forum, it would be great if you start a different thread within this forum (or on the IM Products Review and Ratings forum) discussing your experience with each of them, and refer to this thread for your price comparisons...
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nevermind94 14 years ago

Originally Posted by adrixe

Thanks for the comparison!

W/c is better or the bang for the buck! with high success rate.

What is W/C?

Thank you.
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faisalmaximus 14 years ago

Originally Posted by adrixe

Thanks for the comparison!

W/c is better or the bang for the buck! with high success rate.

Each of these tools is powerful, but the main power depends on how you are using it, which controls the success rate !!!
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kumar301 14 years ago

Originally Posted by adrixe

Thanks for the comparison!

W/c is better or the bang for the buck! with high success rate.

What is this W/C?
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TheProgrammer

14 years ago

Thanks for the nice post and great comparison. at the end which tool do you think is more reliable to purchase by price and work?

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faisalmaximus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TheProgrammer

Thanks for the nice post and great comparison. at the end which tool do you think is more reliable to purchase by price and work?

I personally rely on SEnuke X and Xrumer. Scrapebox is a must use software.
- Using SEnuke X I create 1st tier links
- Using Scrapebox I filter out the live links.
- Then I use Xrumer Blast to create huge 2nd tier links.
- Besides these, I use Nuclear Link Indexer to index all backlinks.
This is my super SEO formula which is working after penguin too.

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dlundy1

13 years ago

Originally Posted by faisalmaximus

I personally rely on SEnuke X and Xrumer. Scrapebox is a must use software.
- Using SEnuke X I create 1st tier links
- Using Scrapebox I filter out the live links.
- Then I use Xrumer Blast to create huge 2nd tier links.
- Besides these, I use Nuclear Link Indexer to index all backlinks.
This is my super SEO formula which is working after penguin too.

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Alexkandr Krulik

14 years ago

Hi

Here is Alex author of Magic Submitter
Nice job!

Please make the following changes
1. Magic Submitter has reporting ability it creates very nice report I excel format
2. Magic Submitter has build in rank checker
3. Magic Submitter works with third party captcha solving no OCR
4. Add row Visual SEO campaign designer. Magic Submitter and senukex has it
5. Add row Ability to add own sites. Magic Submitter has designer feature and you can add any site in it
6. Add row socket mode submitting . Magic Submitter works in this mode and it is 10 times faster then browser
7. Add row wiki posting. Magic Submitter has such ability
8. Add row Preloaded Sites quantity . Magic Submitter has 3000+
9. Add row sites network submittion. Magic Submitter ca do that

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faisalmaximus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexkandr Krulik

Hi

Here is Alex author of Magic Submitter
Nice job!

Please make the following changes
1. Magic Submitter has reporting ability it creates very nice report I excel format
2. Magic Submitter has build in rank checker
3. Magic Submitter works with third party captcha solving no OCR
4. Add row Visual SEO campaign designer. Magic Submitter and senukex has it
5. Add row Ability to add own sites. Magic Submitter has designer feature and you can add any site in it
6. Add row socket mode submitting . Magic Submitter works in this mode and it is 10 times faster then browser
7. Add row wiki posting. Magic Submitter has such ability
8. Add row Preloaded Sites quantity . Magic Submitter has 3000+
9. Add row sites network submittion. Magic Submitter ca do that

Hi, I am really sorry for the mistake and will update immediately.

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deuces81 14 years ago

If XRumer and SENuke both do forum profile posting, then why do people say to buy both?

Wouldn't SENuke be enough?
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- faisalmaximus 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by sexyandiknowit
  
  If XRumer and SENuke both do forum profile posting, then why do people say to buy both?
  
  Wouldn't SENuke be enough?
  
  The current version of SEnuke X can has around 550 forum list, you can add your own site. But using Xrumer you can post thousands of forum posts at once.
  My recommendation is, use SEnuke X to create your 1st tier backlinks and use Xrumer to create 2nd tier links.
  
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seekdefo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexkandr Krulik

Hi

Here is Alex author of Magic Submitter
Nice job!

Please make the following changes
1. Magic Submitter has reporting ability it creates very nice report I excel format
2. Magic Submitter has build in rank checker
3. Magic Submitter works with third party captcha solving no OCR
4. Add row Visual SEO campaign designer. Magic Submitter and senukex has it
5. Add row Ability to add own sites. Magic Submitter has designer feature and you can add any site in it
6. Add row socket mode submitting . Magic Submitter works in this mode and it is 10 times faster then browser
7. Add row wiki posting. Magic Submitter has such ability
8. Add row Preloaded Sites quantity . Magic Submitter has 3000+
9. Add row sites network submittion. Magic Submitter ca do that

But after scraping a list of sites and trying to scan it with magic submitter takes forever. This thing alone makes it worthless in my opinion

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faisalmaximus

14 years ago

Alexkandr Krulik , Updated. Do you offer any lifetime license for Magic Submitter ?

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pinakin 14 years ago

Originally Posted by faisalmaximus

Alexkandr Krulik , Updated. Do you offer any lifetime license for Magic Submitter ?

I am also looking for it, if you can find let me know too
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- magicsubmittertutorials 14 years ago
  
  Magic Submitter does offer fast domain indexing so I think you can tick the indexing option too.
  
  Magic Submitter doesnt offer a lifetime license but does offer a massive discount on the annual subscription.
  
  You can pick up an annual subscription for $474.
  
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conners88

14 years ago

I will be giving magic submitter a try in the coming weeks, does anyone have a good guide for it, for micro niche sites, or is there some built in training when purchased?

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QWE

14 years ago

Have you done testing after Penguin? Rather than comparing features, I am wondering if you can do regression analysis per each software and keyword combination and its long term effect.

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faisalmaximus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by QWE

Have you done testing after Penguin? Rather than comparing features, I am wondering if you can do regression analysis per each software and keyword combination and its long term effect.

I am getting success after penguin too, none of my clients complained me. Its the strategy how I am using my tools- thats it.

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faisalmaximus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by QWE

Have you done testing after Penguin? Rather than comparing features, I am wondering if you can do regression analysis per each software and keyword combination and its long term effect.

Basically, I depend on SEnuke XCr, Xrumer and Scrapebox. After Penguin I am getting results too. Its not the tools, its how the SEO person is using them. My strategy is like following :
- I create quality 1st tier backlinks using SEnuke XCr
- Then I create 2nd tier Forum Profile backlinks using Xrumer
- At last I create huge 2nd tier Blog Comments using Scrapebox.

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mihovi

14 years ago

The most powerful ones are Senuke X and MS, in my opinion. I used them both and based on the success rate (less than 65%) - I've quit on both. MS still has back linking bugs (doesn't post the anchor texts properly), but Krulik-the developer continuously improves its performance. What is common to both of them - for the asked monthly subscription they are waaay expensive and over-rated. I've posted my opinion on TheProgrammer's WSO promoting MS and my posts were deleted 3 times in a row. This is not a honest way to make money, man !
For the $67/month or for $147/month I prefer to use Fiverr's guys - hundreds of thousands of more and better quality backlinks than using any of the above softwares. For me using MS and SenukeX was a big waste of time (open accounts, subscribe for each service, add new services and open new accounts for them when they become available, schedule backlinking, write and spin articles, etc.) and I prefer to focus on some other more valuable activities.
This is my personal opinion and, from what I found on-line, I'm not the only one having it.

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faisalmaximus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mihovi

For the $67/month or for $147/month I prefer to use Fiverr's guys - hundreds of thousands of more and better quality backlinks than using any of the above softwares. For me using MS and SenukeX was a big waste of time (open accounts, subscribe for each service, add new services and open new accounts for them when they become available, schedule backlinking, write and spin articles, etc.) and I prefer to focus on some other more valuable activities.
This is my personal opinion and, from what I found on-line, I'm not the only one having it.

My opinion is don't compromise quality of backlink with money. Fiverr guys can provide you backlinks, but they will not ping and never index your backlinks. Without indexing backlinks have no value. When its SEO, never go for cheap $5 gigs, this may harm your site also. Rather hire experienced SEO contractors from Odesk, Elance who have positive feedback.

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vinodtanvi

14 years ago

Really liked the comparison and the information provided. I am a novice getting into seo and this kind of information really helps. Thanks a ton guys.

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hayriku

14 years ago

this is a great review
anyway, i will try to use the magic submitter.

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faisalmaximus 14 years ago

Originally Posted by vinodtanvi

Really liked the comparison and the information provided. I am a novice getting into seo and this kind of information really helps. Thanks a ton guys.

Originally Posted by hayriku

this is a great review
anyway, i will try to use the magic submitter.

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K Mec

14 years ago

Thanks for the sharing the chart. But for me all are still expensive.

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MatthewWoodward

14 years ago

While SENukeX is a fantastic tool it is an absolute rip off and the cost of owning it is beyond stupid when compared to other tools.

Give me a lifetime license of Ultimate Demon anyday!

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kaluuu

14 years ago

The comparasion is very limited. There are other aspects that needed to be inserted in.

Nice post anyway!

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drwmendoza

14 years ago

There are lot of problem is SENuke like how to link a site in social network don't use usual link biut use the dofollow link format. In Article Submission almost all site don't have auto approve and only few sites. Also with press release. About forum.. You can't customize bio like {sitelink} is a broad term covering many different skills and disciplines that are used in the production and maintenance of websites. and the software just doing like this Web design is a broad term covering many different skills and disciplines that are used in the production and maintenance of websites. {Site link} also with web 2.0 profile.

I think that tool is not the best in all of those softwares.

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MatthewWoodward

14 years ago

And most of the chart is wrong for Xrumer it can do all of those things except KW research, content spinning (which technially senukex doesnt do it uses an api), and pretty graphs

Also it does have a free trial

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drwmendoza

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward

And most of the chart is wrong for Xrumer it can do all of those things except KW research, content spinning (which technially senukex doesnt do it uses an api), and pretty graphs

Also it does have a free trial

I agree with you.. I have almost all SENuke softwares and of all that I usaully use SENuke even if it is not a complete software than xrumer.

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candres79

14 years ago

I have a lifetime license for SEnukeX and it's the best decision I have made for seo. Senuke is by far the best software on this list... And yes, I have used every one on this list!

Can't really compare senuke to. Xrumer though... But together they are a deadly combination!

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Mosa

14 years ago

I definitely have to support Magic Submitter. After all it's been one of the key factors in ranking many of the sites my partner and I have created.

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candres79

14 years ago

Honestly, every one of these tools are great. It really doesn't matter which one you pick.... It's all about how you use them!

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faisalmaximus

14 years ago

If anyone is interested to sell the Lifetime License of SEnuke XCr, please tell me, I am interested.

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shamima1261 14 years ago

Senuke Xcr is the best software I think
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  Originally Posted by shamima1261
  
  Senuke Xcr is the best software I think
  
  Agree with you, SEnuke XCr is the best.
  
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Michael Carlin

13 years ago

I'm surprised Ultimate Demon has not found its way onto this list, it supersedes Bookmark Demon.

Also Xrumer has a trial on the older version, and a scheduler too.

Scrapebox can also be found for $57

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Carlin

I'm surprised Ultimate Demon has not found its way onto this list, it supersedes Bookmark Demon.

Also Xrumer has a trial on the older version, and a scheduler too.

Scrapebox can also be found for $57

I posted the comparison a lot of days ago...I will update this listing very soon.

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oneself

13 years ago

I would be interested if someone updates the chart by adding Ultimate Demon and GSA Ser. Both of them are much more reasonably priced and offer lifetime licenses. Reviews for both have been pretty good as well. Also, could you add a row that lists which of the tools allow for addition of custom platforms/sites. I know Magic Submitter allows that and maybe Senuke XCR. Not sure about Ultimate Demon and GSA.

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by oneself

I would be interested if someone updates the chart by adding Ultimate Demon and GSA Ser. Both of them are much more reasonably priced and offer lifetime licenses. Reviews for both have been pretty good as well. Also, could you add a row that lists which of the tools allow for addition of custom platforms/sites. I know Magic Submitter allows that and maybe Senuke XCR. Not sure about Ultimate Demon and GSA.

Sorry, I didn't use Ultimate Demon and GSA yet, I made this comparison chart based on my own experience.

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thevirtualdifference

13 years ago

What if you know nothing about 1st tiers, 2nd tiers etc and you're just starting out??? Which software is best for a real dumb dumb

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thevirtualdifference

What if you know nothing about 1st tiers, 2nd tiers etc and you're just starting out??? Which software is best for a real dumb dumb

No software is good for newbies, first one should have proper knowledge of SEO and then he/she should use automated tools, otherwise he/she can harm the website ranking.

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hadtic

13 years ago

Great share but the best and most cost effective tool i use is seolinkrobot along with scrapebox. Both of these tools are fantastic and i noticed seolinkrobot was not on the list of comparisons.

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by hadtic

Great share but the best and most cost effective tool i use is seolinkrobot along with scrapebox. Both of these tools are fantastic and i noticed seolinkrobot was not on the list of comparisons.

Hi, I didn't use seolinkrobot personally, can you please pm me the features of seolinkrobot so that I can add this tool also in the list.

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Jahsun 13 years ago

I was just about to ask the same question :confused: Also who can recommend a good tutorial about tiers and footprints. I am still resaerching these info but would like to if anyone can point me to a good guide.

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What if you know nothing about 1st tiers, 2nd tiers etc and you're just starting out??? Which software is best for a real dumb dumb
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djackson

13 years ago

SENuke XCR is a great tool. gotta be smatr with it tho. really effective

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patco

13 years ago

I personally think that EACH SEO tool is a good addition to others. If I had the chance, I would have ALL of the tools, but currently with SenukeX, ScrapeBox and Bookmarking Demon, everything is alright. Many thanks for the post with the picture that you post different info about all tools!!!

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13 years ago

Thanks, Very nice post

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13 years ago

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cooler1

13 years ago

For ranking low comp keywords, which tool is better in terms of being cost effective. Magic Submitter or Sick Submitter?

I heard that Sick Submitter requires packets and a lot of tweaking to get efficient results. On that basis, is MS a better choice.

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Do you still offering all services?
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  Do you still offering all services?
  
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adikoprcike

13 years ago

What tool should I use in the case I want to eliminate all the possible penalties??? My hunch tells me that there is no such tool that will guarantee 100% results. Am I right???

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by adikoprcike

What tool should I use in the case I want to eliminate all the possible penalties??? My hunch tells me that there is no such tool that will guarantee 100% results. Am I right???

No, you are not right. Each of the tools I stated here is powerful and can work without penalty, if one uses it properly. Main thing is, it depends on the person who is using it. Proper SEO knowledge is very important to run these tools, otherwise one can harm his own site and that is not the fault of the tool.

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Lanx

13 years ago

you'll only get penalize if you use the tool wrong, scrapebox seemingly has a bad rap, maybe cuz the software's biggest advocates is another webforum. Anyway it is almost the best scraper in the world, some would argue hrefer takes the spot, i aruge with gscraper. some would say it's about the best poster as well... this is where a tool can get used wrong.

commonly scrapebox is used to backlink your backlink of a backlink, in nearly all schemes it is used a tier 3, sometimes a tier 2 and it's in the hopes of passing on linkjuice much later while prioritizing indexing with mass link exposure.

or you can use scrapebox wrong, read a "how to scrapebox" guide from 2010 and blast your money site with a 200k aa list.

it might work, it might not, it'll surely dance, if it falls down or does a pirouette, is up to chance at that point.

again it's in how you use the tool.

amr is pretty cruddy now, but still works if you want to build a tier 2 and is a good way to update a pbn.

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JSProjects

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Lanx

you'll only get penalize if you use the tool wrong, scrapebox seemingly has a bad rap, maybe cuz the software's biggest advocates is another webforum. Anyway it is almost the best scraper in the world, some would argue hrefer takes the spot, i aruge with gscraper. some would say it's about the best poster as well... this is where a tool can get used wrong.

commonly scrapebox is used to backlink your backlink of a backlink, in nearly all schemes it is used a tier 3, sometimes a tier 2 and it's in the hopes of passing on linkjuice much later while prioritizing indexing with mass link exposure.

or you can use scrapebox wrong, read a "how to scrapebox" guide from 2010 and blast your money site with a 200k aa list.

it might work, it might not, it'll surely dance, if it falls down or does a pirouette, is up to chance at that point.

again it's in how you use the tool.

amr is pretty cruddy now, but still works if you want to build a tier 2 and is a good way to update a pbn.

Scrapebox is an awesome harvester. I needed to drive some traffic to a new site awhile back so I fired it up, plugged in a few hundred niche-related keywords, & searched for forum posts that were indexed within the past 24 hours. I then ran the forums themselves through an Alexa & PR check to get a general idea of how popular they were. Trimmed the list down to 10 high traffic forums that have people actively posting about the niche I'm promoting.

From there it was just a matter of joining, adding a link to my sig if allowed, and making a few GOOD posts / replies a day on each. The traffic is really, REALLY targeted and converts very well. Forum posting is old-school, but it's still one of my favorite traffic methods.

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LarryKowalsky 12 years ago

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Scrapebox is an awesome harvester.

Really? Try use XSEON.
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faisalmaximus 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Boricua

Enjoying that 2nd lifetime Senuke bargain eh Faisal?

My pleasure and thanks for such a nice price.
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Kherk Roldan

13 years ago

Your wrong! Magic Submitter can index!

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flipfire

13 years ago

You don't need any softwares tools to rank in the serps. The only tool you'll ever need is your "brain", if you have that, your onto a winner!

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jonrpatrick

13 years ago

Thank you for this. I've found that several competitors are using Magic Submitter and I've been considering it.
Unfortunately, I'm allergic to monthly subscriptions.

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Aris

13 years ago

GSA Search Engine ranker should be included in this comparison if you plan to revise this thread. Thanks for the comparison chart though, making it easier to compare those tools.

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JSProjects

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Aris

GSA Search Engine ranker should be included in this comparison if you plan to revise this thread. Thanks for the comparison chart though, making it easier to compare those tools.

Agreed.

Been doing some testing with the free trial and I'm so impressed that I'll be purchasing it today.

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orenva

13 years ago

I've been using sick submitter for quite some time now, and I think it's pretty good, they just rolled out some new products which I'm testing now but in general I like their products.
for those of you interested there's a coupon available for sick submitter on www.sicksubmitterdiscount.com , hope this helps

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ErikWeich31021 13 years ago

UAW is still the best, they have expanded so many tools, authors, profiles and such that it is still the easiest and most cost effective solution eva ;p
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Girisimci

12 years ago

Originally Posted by orenva

I've been using sick submitter for quite some time now, and I think it's pretty good, they just rolled out some new products which I'm testing now but in general I like their products.
for those of you interested there's a coupon available for sick submitter on www.sicksubmitterdiscount.com , hope this helps

@orenva do you still use sick submitter? If so I really need to know how to get a huge success rate from it because right now I have an epic failure rates (almost 99%) hope you have any recommendation...

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himanuzo

13 years ago

I vote SE nuke and Magic Submitter

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13 years ago

Without being bias I am a big magic submitter supporter, I do 99% of my link building with MS and getting great results, from video ranking, blogs and websites.

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godoveryou

13 years ago

Woefully inaccurate detailing of Xrumer.

It is capable of posting at all of the CMS'es listed (or virtually anything without javascript), has had a scheduler for 5+ years, does have a trial, etc....

I know Xrumer isn't very popular on this forum and that's okay. It's not for everyone and even less so these days than it had been in the past - but you would think if you were going to go through all the work to produce an infographic that they would have at least tried to get it right.

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Kevin Maguire

13 years ago

Originally Posted by godoveryou

Woefully inaccurate detailing of Xrumer.

It is capable of posting at all of the CMS'es listed (or virtually anything without javascript), has had a scheduler for 5+ years, does have a trial, etc....

I know Xrumer isn't very popular on this forum and that's okay. It's not for everyone and even less so these days than it had been in the past - but you would think if you were going to go through all the work to produce an infographic that they would have at least tried to get it right.

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If you can write Mods for Xrumer. The possibilities are endless. The emphasis on if though. It's not a toy for kids to be playing around with, especially the eh College of Cowboy "SEO Experts".

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andishm

13 years ago

SenukeX can be little pricey for everyone to afford it, Apart from this Magic submitter and Money Robot Submitter are really two good tools which I like to use at the moment for myself.

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celestmark

13 years ago

No better way to prove them then use them. I appreciate all the comments here as I'm still researching the value and use of these programs.

I'm contemplating on leasing a VPS that will host licensed copies of SEnuke XCr, Xrummer (7.7) and Hrefer (3.85). There will be many more there as well, but I'm thinking some experienced partners to share the costs/use would be great value!

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Kevin Maguire

13 years ago

Originally Posted by celestmark

No better way to prove them then use them. I appreciate all the comments here as I'm still researching the value and use of these programs.

I'm contemplating on leasing a VPS that will host licensed copies of SEnuke XCr, Xrummer (7.7) and Hrefer (3.85). There will be many more there as well, but I'm thinking some experienced partners to share the costs/use would be great value!

OVH.ca have some good offers on small Dedis right now. Might be perfect for your needs. Not sure about them allowing Xrumer though.

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13 years ago

What do you thinks about GSA SER ?

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faisalmaximus 13 years ago

Originally Posted by digo

What do you thinks about GSA SER ?

Its a good tool so far, I used it for a very short time, it is useful, but not very user-friendly !
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sasag

13 years ago

so for micro niche sites, what seo tool to buy?
as i get better to have 2-3 tiers? so i need more than 1 programm?
or magic submitter is enough?

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faisalmaximus 13 years ago

Originally Posted by sasag

so for micro niche sites, what seo tool to buy?
as i get better to have 2-3 tiers? so i need more than 1 programm?
or magic submitter is enough?

My vote goes for SEnuke XCr. You can create 2-3 tier links also using this tool. Magic Submitter also can do this, but its not as much user friendly as SEnuke.
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BarbaraGalle

13 years ago

Great, can you tell me the novice should buy what kind of more economic and practical?thanks.

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BarbaraGalle

Great, can you tell me the novice should buy what kind of more economic and practical?thanks.

Novice should not go with the software which has monthly subscription. So, I don't recommend SEnuke or Magic Submitter for them. Start with Scrapebox (This is a must have tool for SEO persons), then gradually move with Article Marketing Robot, Bookmarking Demon etc.

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jinx1221

13 years ago

Originally Posted by faisalmaximus

Novice should not go with the software which has monthly subscription. So, I don't recommend SEnuke or Magic Submitter for them. Start with Scrapebox (This is a must have tool for SEO persons), then gradually move with Article Marketing Robot, Bookmarking Demon etc.

Monthly subscriptions has nothing to do with whether a novice would benefit or not. Comparing Scrapebox to MS is like apples and oranges. Novices should start by learning and fully understanding what each software does first, then decide which software would best suit your purposes.

So many people get used to using the tricks of the trade, that they don't even know the trade!

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Monthly subscriptions has nothing to do with whether a novice would benefit or not. Comparing Scrapebox to MS is like apples and oranges. Novices should start by learning and fully understanding what each software does first, then decide which software would best suit your purposes.

So many people get used to using the tricks of the trade, that they don't even know the trade!

No novice should keep his money on risk at the beginning, monthly subscription based tools will charge at starting, whether the tool may not be very much useful to the novice. So, I suggested to start with simple tools, then move to harder tools. This doesn't mean to compare Apple & Orange.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by faisalmaximus

No novice should keep his money on risk at the beginning, monthly subscription based tools will charge at starting, whether the tool may not be very much useful to the novice. So, I suggested to start with simple tools, then move to harder tools. This doesn't mean to compare Apple & Orange.

It's not how easy or difficult the software is to use, it's whether or not you understand what the software does. UD is also a monthly subscription. In what ways are scrapebox, article marketing robot, and ultimate demon even related? A screwdriver is cheaper and easier to use than a spot welder, doesnt mean they do the same things.

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

It's not how easy or difficult the software is to use, it's whether or not you understand what the software does. UD is also a monthly subscription. In what ways are scrapebox, article marketing robot, and ultimate demon even related? A screwdriver is cheaper and easier to use than a spot welder, doesnt mean they do the same things.

Exactly...A worker who wants to be expert, must know first how to use the screwdriver, then he should go to work with spot welder.

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jinx1221

13 years ago

Originally Posted by faisalmaximus

Exactly...A worker who wants to be expert, must know first how to use the screwdriver, then he should go to work with spot welder.

No, a worker who wants to be expert must know first what the screwdriver does and how he/she can use it to accomplish his/her task, and also know that a screwdriver can't weld 2 sheets of metal together, just as a spot welder can't drive a screw into wood.

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faisalmaximus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

No, a worker who wants to be expert must know first what the screwdriver does and how he/she can use it to accomplish his/her task, and also know that a screwdriver can't weld 2 sheets of metal together, just as a spot welder can't drive a screw into wood.

So, with which tool the novice worker should start ? with the screwdriver, or from the beginning with a spot welder ? Simply answer this, and you will get the answer of the argument.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by faisalmaximus

So, with which tool the novice worker should start ? with the screwdriver, or from the beginning with a spot welder ? Simply answer this, and you will get the answer of the argument.

Dude, I get you are trying to help. Nothing wrong with the logic that you start with simpler tools. I am saying that you don't start with a screwdriver if your intention is to weld metal, because you dont use a screwdriver for that!

Same with SEO tools. Why would you dump money into Scrapebox if your intention is to build Web20's? Scrapebox doesn't do that. AMR doesn't do that.. Understand what you are using the tool for before you go buy one. Peace out!

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fmolina2010 12 years ago

Funny how this post turned out about the screwdriver and welder. lol

It's December now, after Hummingbird. Any comments on how successful these tools are?
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Matthew Anton

12 years ago

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faisalmaximus

12 years ago

SEnuke XCr & GSA Search Engine Ranker are the best so far.

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GeorgR.

12 years ago

Originally Posted by faisalmaximus

SEnuke XCr & GSA Search Engine Ranker are the best so far.

I don't want to re-iterate WHY I wouldn't touch any SEO software today anymore with a long pole.

But just as a side-note, even in the past, before Hummingbird etc....did anyone EVER provide proof that they achieved great rankings using any of them?

Claiming some vague statement how "XYZ is the best" is one thing...hard facts showing how Senuke ranked a site to the top are another. I have in-fact never seen evidence that, say, Senuke did ANYTHING in terms of rankings.
(All you need to do is look over the extremely crappy list of sites Senuke spams to, say the list of article directories which must be the crappiest list of article sites in existence..same with Wikis or whatever other properties it uses)

But...go ahead and pay the monthly fee for spamming some badly spun articles using brand-new Web2.0 accounts to PR0 pages...lol..and report back your "success" and what a good investment it was

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SeoTheRightWay

12 years ago

I totally aggree with you GeorgR that in the long run all these tactics will be useless. People really still don't understand everytime Big G. makes an algo update, some people get hurt.

Whatever you do, they will catch you someday. How can we not see that a lot of people got hurt? You are not hurt does not mean you will not in the near future.

One thing I don't agree with GeorgR is that people still rank really good with these tactics but I bet they will get hurt sooner or later. When I analyze their backlink profile I see that actually they are making crappy backlinks or worse, when people see their backlink profile, they do the same thing turn it into a link farm so that a while later, that backlink becomes a crappy one.

If you want a decent backlink profile in the long run, you must acquire legit backlinks from legit places with low number of links and high quality content. This means that if you can get a backlink easily form somewhere, others can do it as well.

My strategy is to start with good quality content first, optimize pages, create profile from high pr social sites which are also dofollow, submit to trustworthy directories, contact auhority bloggers and comment their blogs and find backlinks from only high pr pages, not thousands but few, quality not quantity.

I don't say all these tools are useless, but you can also use them for white hat purposes for many asppects, they can speed up your process. You can easily find keywords, relevant high pr blogs to write relevant and quality comments etc. I believe Big G is developing the algos every other they and they are catching more and more everyday. If I can see with my naked eyes, also they can, considering they also recruit humans for physical reviews of the web.

When you do harm to your competitors who are working hard and decent, you are actually stealing from them. So it is better to use these tools for good reasons, not to harm others.

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

I don't want to re-iterate WHY I wouldn't touch any SEO software today anymore with a long pole.

But just as a side-note, even in the past, before Hummingbird etc....did anyone EVER provide proof that they achieved great rankings using any of them?

Claiming some vague statement how "XYZ is the best" is one thing...hard facts showing how Senuke ranked a site to the top are another. I have in-fact never seen evidence that, say, Senuke did ANYTHING in terms of rankings.
(All you need to do is look over the extremely crappy list of sites Senuke spams to, say the list of article directories which must be the crappiest list of article sites in existence..same with Wikis or whatever other properties it uses)

But...go ahead and pay the monthly fee for spamming some badly spun articles using brand-new Web2.0 accounts to PR0 pages...lol..and report back your "success" and what a good investment it was

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faisalmaximus

12 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

I don't want to re-iterate WHY I wouldn't touch any SEO software today anymore with a long pole.

But just as a side-note, even in the past, before Hummingbird etc....did anyone EVER provide proof that they achieved great rankings using any of them?

Claiming some vague statement how "XYZ is the best" is one thing...hard facts showing how Senuke ranked a site to the top are another. I have in-fact never seen evidence that, say, Senuke did ANYTHING in terms of rankings.
(All you need to do is look over the extremely crappy list of sites Senuke spams to, say the list of article directories which must be the crappiest list of article sites in existence..same with Wikis or whatever other properties it uses)

But...go ahead and pay the monthly fee for spamming some badly spun articles using brand-new Web2.0 accounts to PR0 pages...lol..and report back your "success" and what a good investment it was

With due respect, SEO tools are not lamp of Aladin that you will scratch and your site will be on top, these are just tools to automate your work. Now, if you do garbage postings using SEnuke, then it is not the fault of the tool.

I can't blame any tool, rather I blame the strategy used by people. A knife can be used for both good and bad purposes, same law applicable for SEO tools also, everything depends on how you are using the tool.

If anyone take SEO tools as Lamp of Aladin, then I have nothing to say, he/she just need to change the point of view before using it.

One important thing, I am still getting first page ranking using these SEO tools.

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r0dvan

12 years ago

This programs are getting close to their end.
They are close enough to spam tools.
I have tried them all and I can say the only one I keep using is Scrapebox, it has many nice and usefull tools and addons.
Also you forgot about one which is way better, GSA ranker. I used it for a while, it was working great but on Hummingbird update everything went to hell.
Hope someone find this post useful and learn to work it out organically and with real people with real choices.

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faisalmaximus

12 years ago

Originally Posted by r0dvan

This programs are getting close to their end.
They are close enough to spam tools.
I have tried them all and I can say the only one I keep using is Scrapebox, it has many nice and usefull tools and addons.
Also you forgot about one which is way better, GSA ranker. I used it for a while, it was working great but on Hummingbird update everything went to hell.
Hope someone find this post useful and learn to work it out organically and with real people with real choices.

I can say, SEnuke XCr, GSA and Scrapebox are still great tool and if they can be used properly, they can produce great result.

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Scholes0018

12 years ago

Hi guys! I really like the functions of Magic Submitter, but does it still work well after all the algorythm changes of Google?

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cypherslock

12 years ago

Yes it does still work. It's the content and your strategy that make the difference. MS/GSA/SENX are all just tools.

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ddev

12 years ago

Agree with you. Good Content counts + not going for tons of backlinks (quality over quantity).

For example: a tool that i like GSA can build 1000's of backlinks which can help for nothing....and (by using strict rules), the same tool can build 20 or 30 backlinks (just to say something), that may help you to bump your ranks.

Tip: GSA > YouTube Videos works very well.

Just my 2 cents.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by ddev

Agree with you. Good Content counts + not going for tons of backlinks (quality over quantity).

For example: a tool that i like GSA can build 1000's of backlinks which can help for nothing....and (by using strict rules), the same tool can build 20 or 30 backlinks (just to say something), that may help you to bump your ranks.

Tip: GSA > YouTube Videos works very well.

Just my 2 cents.

Actually, with Youtube I've found it BEST to create as many links as possible with SER. Most everything else I try and take a slower approach.

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mootonandy

12 years ago

Everyone loves GSA for tiered link building, I'm trying Money Robot out now too.

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faisalmaximus

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mootonandy

Everyone loves GSA for tiered link building, I'm trying Money Robot out now too.

The main reason of loving GSA is its option to create backlinks from relevant niches, Google likes this also and it helps to get ranking faster.

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taopham

12 years ago

Hello,
It's August 2014 already! Do you still recommend SEnuke?
What's about Money Robot?

Any best SEO software in the market right now? SEnuke offer A lifetime access for $2,000! Do you have a coupon, promotion code, or where to buy an old account for cheapier?

I am selling my products on eBay and Amazon, I want SEO software to help my listing get higher. Thanks so much

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faisalmaximus

12 years ago

Originally Posted by taopham

Hello,
It's August 2014 already! Do you still recommend SEnuke?
What's about Money Robot?

Any best SEO software in the market right now? SEnuke offer A lifetime access for $2,000! Do you have a coupon, promotion code, or where to buy an old account for cheapier?

I am selling my products on eBay and Amazon, I want SEO software to help my listing get higher. Thanks so much

SEnuke is still effective in some cases, but now I recommend GSA Search Engine Ranker, because it has all those features which a SEO expert needs. Most important part is it can create backlinks from relevant niches, which Google likes very much. And this strategy is still effective after Penguin and Panda updates.

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taopham 12 years ago

Do you have a direct link to GSA Search Engine Ranker?
I searched on google and there are a few sites talk about it! Don't want to buy the wrong software though

quite noob with SEO

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sanusense

12 years ago

Nice report! But, I would still say Article Marketing Robot has the ability to take you so far, I used it for 1st tier backlinks and it was worth using them

Thoughts may vary!

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BGRC

12 years ago

Thanks for the comparison. Would love to see comparison of "GSA Search Engine Ranker" with other tools.

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Inturpo

12 years ago

Excellent post, some nice user reviews and opinions,

I have used Senuke and it is fantastic and so easy to use,
The price is extremely high tho,

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faisalmaximus 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Inturpo

Excellent post, some nice user reviews and opinions,

I have used Senuke and it is fantastic and so easy to use,
The price is extremely high tho,

Yes, SEnuke is still useful if it is used with proper SEO knowledge. Great result can be brought out using this precious tool.
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  Originally Posted by faisalmaximus
  
  Yes, SEnuke is still useful if it is used with proper SEO knowledge. Great result can be brought out using this precious tool.
  
  And is this your unbiased opinion, Mr. Full Monty? Lol!!
  
  Originally Posted by Inturpo
  
  The price is extremely high tho
  
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  And is this your unbiased opinion, Mr. Full Monty? Lol!!
  
  This is the problem, using premade template means you leave some footprint for search engines. I recommend to use such a template which is unique and goes with your needs, thats it.
  
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zowmmo

12 years ago

Neat post. Will be great for people who are in the buying mode.

By the way, since this is the SEO forum, it would be great if you start a different thread within this forum (or on the IM Products Review and Ratings forum) discussing your experience with each of them, and refer to this thread for your price comparisons...

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Assignmentwriter

12 years ago

Last month i subscribed magic submitter it is not good tool but senuke xcr is good

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IMLab

12 years ago

Thanks for the updated table!

I would personally go for GSA SER which is not included in the review above. Mostly though, i tend to stay away from those automated link building programs unless if you want to strengthen and diversify some 2nd and 3rd tiers.

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