The End Of Google Penalties? New SEO Companies That Focus Solely On REMOVING Links.

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So just read this article and I guess there are a bunch of companies popping up that actually REMOVE links for you if you've received the "unnatural link" message or you just feel you were penalized for having .... bad links!

New Link Industry: Link Removal Companies

I've read some reviews on other forums and I guess these companies actually work.

I'm not sure exactly how they do it, they say have a platform that allows them to just remove links without even contacting the webmasters on different types of websites

I guess for the rest they just use whois and email the webmasters in hope they can get the link taken down....

Anyways this is pretty interesting stuff ESPECIALLY you've received the message from Google or your website has been slapped.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joey Montano
    Removing bad links has been going on for awhile for SEO companies. Most of the time a company hires a crappy SEO company, pays them a few thousand dollars and get's ranked first page for a few months, then google slaps them.

    That's where more legit SEO companies come in and pick up the pieces and try to undo the damage that's already been done.

    Although I haven't heard of a method of removing bad links without contacting webmasters, that's pretty interesting.
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    • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
      Originally Posted by Joey Montano View Post

      Removing bad links has been going on for awhile for SEO companies. Most of the time a company hires a crappy SEO company, pays them a few thousand dollars and get's ranked first page for a few months, then google slaps them.

      That's where more legit SEO companies come in and pick up the pieces and try to undo the damage that's already been done.

      Although I haven't heard of a method of removing bad links without contacting webmasters, that's pretty interesting.
      Yeah but the focus of these companies is only the removal of links. It's a little different than the SEO companies removing a few links here and there trying to repair links
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    I personally would not remove links as it can appear to look unnatural to your link profile.

    I would just dilute my current link profile with more junk links (different and random anchor text) to make everything look more natural.
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    • Profile picture of the author scottmacair
      Originally Posted by nasuryono View Post

      I personally would not remove links as it can appear to look unnatural to your link profile.

      I would just dilute my current link profile with more junk links (different and random anchor text) to make everything look more natural.
      If you have an unnatural links penalty that means your site's had a manual review. Diluting bad links will not remove the penalty. You need to remove the bad links.

      I have a bunch of new clients who all want me to help them remove bad linkw as they have unnatural links detected penalties. The penalty can be removed through filing for reconsideration but you have demonstrate you've made a good effort to remove the bad links. Google will not lift the penalty just because you added better links to the link profile.
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      • Profile picture of the author akasheg
        Originally Posted by scottmacair View Post

        If you have an unnatural links penalty that means your site's had a manual review. Diluting bad links will not remove the penalty. You need to remove the bad links.

        I have a bunch of new clients who all want me to help them remove bad linkw as they have unnatural links detected penalties. The penalty can be removed through filing for reconsideration but you have demonstrate you've made a good effort to remove the bad links. Google will not lift the penalty just because you added better links to the link profile.
        I agree with you. You have got remove the links its not unnatural infact even Google says to remove all the things which you might have been penalized for and wait for the things to get better.

        But if you have bad links. You can also do it the other way. Just build more high quality natural links that the bad links don't matter much.
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  • Profile picture of the author philliplpaz
    That could also work. I mean bad links are getting your site penalize, why not pay someone to remove them. But that is a gamble to because you can never know when Google will lift the penalty.
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    • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
      Originally Posted by philliplpaz View Post

      That could also work. I mean bad links are getting your site penalize, why not pay someone to remove them. But that is a gamble to because you can never know when Google will lift the penalty.
      Well when the whole BMR fiasco happened a lot of people fixed their rankings by removing all the links they had from BMR

      So if it worked then it should still work now
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  • Profile picture of the author adamjcd
    The thing this has got me wondering is how stable this business model is, as far as I was aware Google is planning on bringing in a new tool for disavowing links in the near future (possibly) .. this would make companies involved in this pointless wouldn't it? or would they be used more for 'reputation management' sort of thing?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sclark
      Originally Posted by adamjcd View Post

      The thing this has got me wondering is how stable this business model is, as far as I was aware Google is planning on bringing in a new tool for disavowing links in the near future (possibly) .. this would make companies involved in this pointless wouldn't it? or would they be used more for 'reputation management' sort of thing?
      Hey, adamjcd, I wonder the same.

      And I also wonder who is behind these link removal companies (I'm not talking about SEO firms and SEO consultants who do it as part of bigger SEO campaigns). That reminds of how someone saw Nessie in the lake, and the next day different people arrived at the site, selling carved-out statues of the monster and offering pictures of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Does the unnatural links notice in GWT only come from having links on blog networks or does it also come from other types of link building?
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    • Profile picture of the author scottmacair
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Does the unnatural links notice in GWT only come from having links on blog networks or does it also come from other types of link building?
      It can come from other sources of links not just private / public blog networks. Being caught on a private blog network will almost guarantee an unnatural links penalty but you can get an unnatural links penalty from other manipulative strategies.

      Penguin address low quality spam and over optimization. This can be resolved by diluting overly optimized anchor text with brand anchor text - if that's the problem.

      GWT penalties such as the unnatural links penalties are manual reviews and are issued for more serious link building manipulation. The only way out of this is to remove as many bad links as poss and file for reconsideration.
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      • Profile picture of the author seoposter
        Funny, because I have a friend who is a freelance web designer but given a link grading project from his client. Since I am the SEO, he keeps on asking me about how to qualify a spam link. But the point is, projects like removing links already is here. And since people are so conscious about how Google shapes their business for the future, this new branch of SEO will likely stay.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
          Originally Posted by scottmacair View Post

          If you have an unnatural links penalty that means your site's had a manual review.

          Are you saying that google did over 700,000 manual reviews in the last few months?
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

            I'm not sure exactly how they do it, they say have a platform that allows them to just remove links without even contacting the webmasters on different types of websites.
            Originally Posted by Joey Montano View Post

            Although I haven't heard of a method of removing bad links without contacting webmasters, that's pretty interesting.
            I can tell you what they are doing. It is complete bull****. I've seen a few messages in other forums from people this happened to. They send a DMCA notice to the webhost (technically, they are not contacting the webmaster) and the site gets taken down. DMCA's are supposed to be for copyright infringement, but most web hosts take them seriously. When they receive one, they will often take a website down pretty quickly and leave the webmaster to sort it out and resolve the situation.

            So a webmaster contracts someone to build links for them (which ultimately the webmaster is responsible for), then has someone send out DMCA notices to get the sites pulled down even though the content was submitted on the authority of that same webmaster.

            It is not what DMCA notices were intended for and is completely abusing them.

            The link removal industry is dirtier than the SEO industry, and that is saying something.
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  • Profile picture of the author virtu
    Wow, amazing business. Just wonder when it come as WSO here

    btw, it must be hard for site with automatic backlink bombing... Share any tips?

    thank you,
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

    I'm not sure exactly how they do it, they say have a platform that allows them to just remove links without even contacting the webmasters on different types of websites.
    No they don't. Let's get serious here
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    • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      No they don't. Let's get serious here
      At least they claim to I mean chances are they can't....


      Originally Posted by Rafay Zafar View Post

      I see a new business model developing here.
      What if i first spam a weak site with thousands of links and as soon as the site drops off the serps i send them an email introducing my 'unique link removal service'
      That's pathetic negative SEO is such a dirty thing...

      I enjoy blackhat forums but I kind of see how scummy they really are when things like that pop up
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    What a total joke, those jokers won't remove any link you can't easily remove yourself.

    Good luck with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rafay Zafar
    I see a new business model developing here.
    What if i first spam a weak site with thousands of links and as soon as the site drops off the serps i send them an email introducing my 'unique link removal service'
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Rafay Zafar View Post

      I see a new business model developing here.
      What if i first spam a weak site with thousands of links and as soon as the site drops off the serps i send them an email introducing my 'unique link removal service'
      I'm pretty sure there is already someone here playing both sides of the fence. I'm sure there are many others too.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I'm pretty sure there is already someone here playing both sides of the fence. I'm sure there are many others too.
        I think I know who your talking about & If they are playing both sides (build links/remove links) they've covered their tracks pretty well, other than promoting both of the links here on WF at the same time.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I think I know who your talking about & If they are playing both sides (build links/remove links) they've covered their tracks pretty well, other than promoting both of the links here on WF at the same time.
          Yeah, they have covered their tracks well, but it is nothing revolutionary.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Oh yeah IM/SEO is getting prettier by the day :S
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  • Profile picture of the author lisaann
    Guess it won't be a very long-term business:

    Google To Build Disavow Link Feature In Webmaster Tools
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Hale
    Yeah it's good article on remove unnatural back link because google count it in spam. These days niches links has more value as compare to others.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackMetal
    I think the whole negative SEO thing is overrated, and likely not to exist much at all.
    It's more along the lines of, if that's all you've got, then yeah, you wont rank well, and you're probably a spammer.
    But think you could drop Adobe in the rankings by pushing some bad links to it? I dont think so.
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  • Profile picture of the author seokid
    I would just dilute my current link profile with more junk links ,different and random anchor text to set things so it will look natural
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  • Profile picture of the author rjonesx
    Hey folks, I am behind one of those companies/tools that helps remove links (Remove 'em). One of the previous responders was correct that you cant just dilute your way out of manual penalties. It might be possible w/ Penguin, but not with "manual actions".

    I do think that you need to be careful removing links - you should be pretty certain that links are the problem before you go start tinkering around with something as important as your link profile, especially considering it could hurt your rankings in Bing, even if you are penalized in Google.
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