Copying from books for unique content strategy

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Hi All,

I've using optical character recognition to copy content from books word for word and pass this off as my own. Will Google know this is duplicate content? I've run this through various content checkers and it always comes out %100 unique. I have checked and there are no e-copies of these books anywhere on the Internet, so I do not see how this can be proved as a copy. Does Google have a partnership with major publishing companies, that gives them access to their database, so they can cross check against this? Does such a database even exist?
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  • Profile picture of the author tech84
    Basically, what you are trying to do is ILLEGAL. So, you know the answer to your question.
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    • Profile picture of the author deezn
      Originally Posted by tech84 View Post

      Basically, what you are trying to do is ILLEGAL. So, you know the answer to your question.
      Unless the material he is copying no longer has copyright (a lot of older stuff).

      But new stuff yeah, illegal!
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    Why don't you do it like this: take 3-4 of books from the library, read the chapters about your topic one night before you start writing, and on the next morning write your opinion. Trust me, this way you will get more knowledge than a university can ever give you.
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  • Profile picture of the author kochtgr
    It's always better to use your own words just use books to get ideas and create something on your own...
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  • Profile picture of the author brandsmith12
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      If the book's content is indexed by google, yes, it's duplicate
      content. BUT...this is not duplicate content to worry about.

      Before falling all over nonsense in this thread, there are
      plenty, and I mean there must be a gazillion books in the
      public domain, readily available online from a gazillion
      places. This "content" is free for the taking as it's lost
      all copyright. Plenty of movies are this boat as well.

      Passing it off as your own "shtuff" would be quite a stupid
      thing to do. It's not yours, but since it is in the public domain,
      who cares? Nobody sues except in the United States. The
      Supreme Court just ruled that lying is free speech. You
      can claim a military medal or award as your own. No
      crime there!

      Other countries could give a rip about US copyright laws
      anyway.

      Most stuff published in the US first before 1923 is now
      in PD. Like I said, claiming it as "your own" would not
      give a good visitor experience, would it?

      What I do, is spin articles. It's a great way. Every TV
      news show spins the same story. I spin wikipedia
      when I need to.

      No reason to copy, word for word, some published content.

      What you could do, for copied stuff from a PD book,
      magazine, whatever, is quote it and give the credit.
      It's still "content," right?

      Hiring a lawyer is ridiculous. The courts are jammed now
      with useless lawsuits. If you put it on the internet,
      you have to know it will be copied. Music biz stopped
      trying to take down lyric sites...

      Originally Posted by brandsmith12 View Post

      Google always give more importance to unique and high quality content, ( high and unique quality content mean new ideas and thought about particular topic that provide valuable info toe very visitor), if you will copy some content form other places this is illegitimate work and you are breaking the rules of Google Algorithms..
      I don't know why these myths keep coming up.
      Google could care less about the "importance of unique and
      high quality content." Ever see the shtuff on wikipedia?
      They have no algo about high quality content. Duplicate
      content is indexed and loved by google each and every day.

      Google could care less if you copy something. They are not
      in the business of being the internet police. You can find
      copies of anything and everything via a google search.
      Why people think otherwise, I don't know.

      What google cares about is SHMOOZING their search engine.
      They readily index illegal, copied, dumb, stupid, content
      all the time. Even give it PR and authority. Like wikileaks.

      One more thing. Book reviewers use the same copied content
      as others. No problem. Wish this duplicate crapola would die.
      Amazon uses the same copied book covers as other book selling
      sites.

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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    Yeah, none of this answers my questions. I wasn't looking a lecture on the legalities or the morality of this. I know this is a practise that people use and if I put in a reference to the book, I can used certain sections. I am just wondering whether the Google algorithm view this as unique quality content.
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    • Profile picture of the author shayman
      Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

      I am just wondering whether the Google algorithm view this as unique quality content.
      If it does then I hope one day it doesn't. Sorry but people who intentionally copy other peoples hard work don't really deserve success in my book.
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    I'm sure everyone has used this at some point. Does anyone know if Google can check with publishers about whether this is duplicate content? There is surprisingly know information on this on the web.
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  • Profile picture of the author Buyseech
    If it isnt already written, then it is OK in Googles eyes. When the author/publisher of the book comes knocking, you better answer.

    If its something generic like recipes or sth, than its no problem if you ask me. But if you are ripping someones theories, novels, etc etc...then it could catch fire fast.

    But as far as Google goes..first come first serve...
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I thought about doing this when I first got into IM, bad idea. To answer your question ,there is probably some way for publishers to know if someone is using their content online, or else plenty of people would be doing it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Buyseech
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      I thought about doing this when I first got into IM, bad idea. To answer your question ,there is probably some way for publishers to know if someone is using their content online, or else plenty of people would be doing it.
      If nothing else, they can go to copyscape and just randomly type in a few paragraphs from the entire book and voila.
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    Its probably not a good idea. Its a very lazy approach anyway. I have only did it a couple of times and referenced it though.
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    Google books actual has tons of content indexed that you wouldn't think is. I'd be very careful with this method.
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    I've abandoned it. The books I've used are not on google books but this isn't worth the risk. It is time saving but there is no longevity in it.
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  • Profile picture of the author matthewtc
    I agree with you on that one seamy82. I tried similar at first and found out my own writing helped my blogs and websites out more. Apparently people have posted books online either by scanning or other means. I don't know if google searches those or not. Another time save if you do not want to write your own content is to hire people to write articles for you like on elance or fiverr.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhonybravo222
    Your thread is so interesting it brings a smile on my face. Do not do this with yourself. First you have to gather knowledge according to your topic and then brainstorm your idea after that recheck it where its needs to improve then try to improve it, thats the way you can enhance your abilities.
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  • Profile picture of the author nilsomudro
    yeh, it helps you quickly to get ranking from Google, but if the authors or publishers search the article in Google to update or add new content at the same book (from where you copied), now what will you do if they complain it to Google?
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    • Profile picture of the author ivvyevents
      There are some methods through which Google indexes the contents in a book, but if the contents from where you have your content from is not to be found it might be good for you but if it gets indexed latter on then there are chances that it might turn out to be an issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    There are ways for publishers to see who is using their content and quite honestly teh only person you are cheating is yourself....

    Dont get me wrong using books as your research is brilliant way of doing things but not copying it word for word :-)

    Danny
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    All content has now been removed. I was never happy with it anyway. Anytime I have taken a short cut in seo, it has come back to bite me in the ass i.e. Build My Rank
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  • Profile picture of the author ronaldec
    Just go to a site like textbroker, iwriter or fiverr if you don't want to write the content. Get a good writer if possible. Or just hire a writer off Odesk or elance.

    Its no crime to hate writing or even be bad at the task. But to resort to copying from books just because you think google has never seen that content is wrong. Very wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Potts
      its pretty daft really

      theres loads of anti-pliagarism software available in the academic sector, its illegal and easy to get caught
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    You might get away with it in the short term but it will not work in the long run.

    Why risk upsetting the law and regulation with this kind of behavior?

    I believe everyone has something unique to share with the World Wide Web so please stop the piracy here.
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  • Profile picture of the author shayman
    I'm glad to see seamy82 has rethought this . What really bugs me is that ALL the content I create is 100% original because I'm an expert in my field which is music. I don't even need reference books or whatever. What I have noticed since Penguin (sorry to bring it up again) is that sites that have literally just copy and pasted my content are actually now ranking above me, probably because their websites carry more authority or have been better optimised than me. So in the end it probabaly looks like I have taken THEIR content.

    IT JUST SUCKS!
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by shayman View Post

      I'm glad to see seamy82 has rethought this . What really bugs me is that ALL the content I create is 100% original because I'm an expert in my field which is music. I don't even need reference books or whatever. What I have noticed since Penguin (sorry to bring it up again) is that sites that have literally just copy and pasted my content are actually now ranking above me, probably because their websites carry more authority or have been better optimised than me. So in the end it probabaly looks like I have taken THEIR content.

      IT JUST SUCKS!
      Hi shayman,

      You have a legal right to every penny they earned through the use of your content. Hire a lawyer, sue them, and split the winnings between you and your attorney.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I find it sickening that someone would even consider this. Let alone actually do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dbwebdesignz
    Highly illegal and i would suggest reading the topics and re-writing this is the most beneficial way. Also it would help you to understand if you are interested in the topics you are reading about as you will pay more attention to detail

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  • Profile picture of the author robertwilston
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    I think from books you should take the ideas not content then you make the content in your own words.because from this you can understand what you are writing if you will copy the content from books then how you can understand what you want to write.
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