by Backlink Beaver Banned
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HI, I have been doing SEO for quite some years now. I have never been found of link building. But today the internet is growing and the competition is getting tougher and tougher. Does anyone know of a really good killer manual link builder, or is the best way to still manually input your links to relevent categories that relate to your keywords?
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  • Profile picture of the author easternodyssey
    I would say doing everything manually is the better option, I still am in the belief that most of these automated services heart your ranking. However, due to the new Google updates people seem to be increasingly using them, thinking they need to build more links, rather than better quality links. The problem is with any automated link building tools you never truelly know where the link is ending up and how Google reacts to this kind of irregular link building.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    Thank you for such a quick reply. This is how I feel. But as any man, sometimes short cuts are always in the back of the mind. Another question I would like to ask in regards to building backlinks. I have looked at many charts on the assumed statistics on PR and how many backlinks it takes to gain one PR level. Some stats say if you add 3 backlinks on a PR5 site or forum, it shoulf you give you a PR1. If this stat is true, how long does it take for google to rank your PR once you have several backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Create great content that people will naturally want to link to - because it's beneficial to others. Do a bit of article marketing, and submit your website to the website directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author homebizoutlook
    I provide a free link building site - you can find it in my signature. No spam here, this is a free site that anyone can use for building links if you want.
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    • Hi there
      I'm a newbie in this forum. Have a question that I didn't see around here. I have used pinging tool where you paste a URL. I want a tool similar to pingfarm.com which is for pinging a site but where I can use my own quality mass bulk backlinks to submit. Copy paste & submit solution
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  • Profile picture of the author stevo88
    i am new to seo but i need some for my website can anyone give me some solid advice of which direction to head in?
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  • Profile picture of the author fedor50
    Try scrapebox, xrumer, bookmarkingdemon,etc. Those are good link building tools to start off with
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    Hi, thanks for the tips. But it seems the best ways are manual links. Are their any tools out there that I can put on my own site that are free that build backlinks without leaving my site?
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    • Profile picture of the author mmickeals
      Originally Posted by Backlink Beaver View Post

      Hi, thanks for the tips. But it seems the best ways are manual links. Are their any tools out there that I can put on my own site that are free that build backlinks without leaving my site?
      In my opinion there are three ways to go about backlink building. All with their pro's and con's.

      1.) Develop a blog network. You purchase sites that already have pr, then drop links back to your site. Mike Anthony has posted a lot of information on WF about this method.

      2.) Manual linkbuilding, ie.) high pr blog commenting, guest posts, etc. This method takes more work than the others, and is less effective. Especially with you take into account your time. Most high pr blogs are spammed to death. So very little of their pr gets passed to your site. In comparison your own blog network passes all of the pr juice.

      3.) Use automated software to develop a more complex linking structure. At this time, the most effective method is tiered linking. This type of linking is not really discussed much on this forum, and when it is you will find little information of use. But basically you want to construct at least 3 tiers. Each tier links to the one above, and the 1st tier links back to your money site. You then blast your tiers with mass backlinking tools.
      To really be effective, it is going to take time to master this style of linking. It does your site very little good to just load up a program like SeNuke and blast links. Even if you are building them in tiers, Senuke will not be effective against high competition.

      I would recommend either 1 or 3. I started with using automated software when I had more time than money. Now I am building out a high pr network of my own. That being said, if I had to start over I would go with the blog network. Higher upfront costs, lower long term costs. And it took me forever to learn to use automated software effectively. Literally months upon months where I was making no money, and spending money trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. In comparison, you should be able to master a high pr network with a few hours of studying the principles behind it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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        Originally Posted by mmickeals View Post

        In my opinion there are three ways to go about backlink building. All with their pro's and con's.

        1.) Develop a blog network. You purchase sites that already have pr, then drop links back to your site. Mike Anthony has posted a lot of information on WF about this method.

        2.) Manual linkbuilding, ie.) high pr blog commenting, guest posts, etc. This method takes more work than the others, and is less effective. Especially with you take into account your time. Most high pr blogs are spammed to death. So very little of their pr gets passed to your site. In comparison your own blog network passes all of the pr juice.

        3.) Use automated software to develop a more complex linking structure. At this time, the most effective method is tiered linking. This type of linking is not really discussed much on this forum, and when it is you will find little information of use. But basically you want to construct at least 3 tiers. Each tier links to the one above, and the 1st tier links back to your money site. You then blast your tiers with mass backlinking tools.
        To really be effective, it is going to take time to master this style of linking. It does your site very little good to just load up a program like SeNuke and blast links. Even if you are building them in tiers, Senuke will not be effective against high competition.

        I would recommend either 1 or 3. I started with using automated software when I had more time than money. Now I am building out a high pr network of my own. That being said, if I had to start over I would go with the blog network. Higher upfront costs, lower long term costs. And it took me forever to learn to use automated software effectively. Literally months upon months where I was making no money, and spending money trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. In comparison, you should be able to master a high pr network with a few hours of studying the principles behind it.
        I will give it a try. Thank You
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Instead of just guessing, why not invest into a paid workshop or course, and do it properly?

    The only REAL shortcuts are to build a system, refine it, then outsource it. That's the only way you can remove yourself from the equation and still get results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    Another question, for sites that offer manual link building services, what are the average prices for this sphere of work to get high quality backlinks? What would a company normally charge?
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Barr
    It really depends on how you want to look at your links.

    Automated link building can certainly be effective if you know what you're doing. Using spun content is fine IF you're going to check that it's readable beforehand.

    Doing things manually definitely gives you the best chance of the link remaining in place, BUT it takes a long time, especially if you have multiple sites to promote.

    In terms of page rank, Google never give away exactly how they assign PR, nor do they tell us when they are going to do a PR update. From my own observations I would say that PR now has a strong social component - the more tweets and facebook shares your site gets, the quicker it will build PR.
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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      Originally Posted by Karen Barr View Post

      It really depends on how you want to look at your links.

      Automated link building can certainly be effective if you know what you're doing. Using spun content is fine IF you're going to check that it's readable beforehand.

      Doing things manually definitely gives you the best chance of the link remaining in place, BUT it takes a long time, especially if you have multiple sites to promote.

      In terms of page rank, Google never give away exactly how they assign PR, nor do they tell us when they are going to do a PR update. From my own observations I would say that PR now has a strong social component - the more tweets and facebook shares your site gets, the quicker it will build PR.

      Super, Thankyou. the PR you told me just explained a lot about the tweets. I have a PR1 site with no backlinks, but a lot of tweets. this could be the reason. Also, what automate link building system are you using?
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by Karen Barr View Post

      In terms of page rank, Google never give away exactly how they assign PR, nor do they tell us when they are going to do a PR update.
      Actually this is not true - Google shared all the details of the PageRank algorithm years ago and it's been used by many companies in other fields as diverse as medicine to make predictions of all kinds.

      PageRank is however just one small part of what goes in to Google's complete decision making process for ranking sites and it's much less important than it used to be.
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    • Profile picture of the author fizamalik
      Guest Posting, Forum Posting, Article Directories and Blog Commenting are the best for link building
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  • Profile picture of the author Casper12
    Hello everybody !!! Link Building is the best way for promoting your website. Start link building using article distribution, directory submission, comments on blog post. Do not purchase links. If you want to purchase link then purchase links from high page rank authority website. Join digitalpoint forum and write your quotation to purchase link or link exchange. you will get help in link building...
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
    I prefer manual link building as it does not looks spammy.....

    The question is not about the quantity the question is about quality... for example if they just add your link and not much quality content it can have the reverse effect..

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  • Profile picture of the author Gelo30
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    linking to relevant site is the best but it's hard to get links to corporate sites you need to have quality content to attract others to link to your site. Try to PM me for better conversation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    I know manual backlinks are the best way to link build. But is there an automated backlink builder that will build high PR backlinks for you with quality? Also what are some good methods of increasing your PR
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    • Profile picture of the author adsassist
      Originally Posted by Backlink Beaver View Post

      I know manual backlinks are the best way to link build. But is there an automated backlink builder that will build high PR backlinks for you with quality? Also what are some good methods of increasing your PR
      There is a software that will build back links for you.

      You have to generate the names - software will make emails for you up to 1000 - you have to put in the comments, around 500 is good - find a list of dofollow blogs targeted to your niche - hit start and get a list of the good links.

      Doing this the first time dropped my rank by 1 mill in the alexa rank overnight.

      This is in the warroom. Take a gander and look in there.

      Good Luck
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      • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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        Originally Posted by adsassist View Post

        There is a software that will build back links for you.

        You have to generate the names - software will make emails for you up to 1000 - you have to put in the comments, around 500 is good - find a list of dofollow blogs targeted to your niche - hit start and get a list of the good links.

        Doing this the first time dropped my rank by 1 mill in the alexa rank overnight.

        This is in the warroom. Take a gander and look in there.

        Good Luck
        I will thank you.
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        • Automated link building works, but it's very difficult to find a quality tool and use it in the right way. It is better to build links manually. Try to obtain backlinks from various sources and use appropriate anchor text.
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        • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
          Originally Posted by Backlink Beaver View Post

          I will thank you.
          Instead you should hit the Thanks button
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      • Profile picture of the author dagnyjbarber
        Originally Posted by adsassist View Post

        There is a software that will build back links for you.

        You have to generate the names - software will make emails for you up to 1000 - you have to put in the comments, around 500 is good - find a list of dofollow blogs targeted to your niche - hit start and get a list of the good links.

        Doing this the first time dropped my rank by 1 mill in the alexa rank overnight.

        This is in the warroom. Take a gander and look in there.

        Good Luck

        Is is good to use software for link building?
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  • Profile picture of the author WFs
    Doing automated backlinking is a nice way to ruin your PR. Create all backlinks manually and provide consistent content. This will increase your PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    Hi, Thank you all for your advice. I have a very popular keyword on page 2 of google. I just can not seem to move it to PR4 sites and higher. What am I missing? Can anyone give me a hint? It seems backlinks are not enough for this keyword. any ideas?
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    • Profile picture of the author weeburty
      Originally Posted by Backlink Beaver View Post

      Hi, Thank you all for your advice. I have a very popular keyword on page 2 of google. I just can not seem to move it to PR4 sites and higher. What am I missing? Can anyone give me a hint? It seems backlinks are not enough for this keyword. any ideas?
      Get some videos on to YouTube and the OneLoad. My site went to PR2 and Alexa ranking of just over 800k in less than 30 days with less than 30 videos.

      If you want to do this right, download my free report - link in sig.
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      • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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        Originally Posted by weeburty View Post

        Get some videos on to YouTube and the OneLoad. My site went to PR2 and Alexa ranking of just over 800k in less than 30 days with less than 30 videos.

        If you want to do this right, download my free report - link in sig.
        HI, thank you for the reply. I believe I am doing it right. But the keyword is a very high searched term. I have done some killer YouTube videos. They are in the number one sopt for YouTube for my keywords. also my videos are underneath me in the serps by one position. If I mss one day of backlinks. I fall to position 14 from position 11. Any ideas to get me past the competition? I am in DMOZ and 100's of directories. There has to be some kind of power booster somewhere. Not automated. Never! I have been doing this since the DOS days in college in 1994 and have changed with the flow (I think). If anyone has a great idea to break the second page, please let me know. Thankyou. - Robert Corby at http://backlinkbuilder.com
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  • Profile picture of the author johnaddison
    For building links, you can post forums,blogs,articles,press releases.Moreover, directory submission is another way to build links.
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    I am new on seo and smm .How can i improve my website?
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    Also I am stuck on page 2 of google. I build backlinks everyday to move it up. It will not move past position 14. What can I do? Should I just continue with building links?
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    Originally Posted by Backlink Beaver View Post

    HI, I have been doing SEO for quite some years now. I have never been found of link building. But today the internet is growing and the competition is getting tougher and tougher. Does anyone know of a good link builder, or is the best way to still manually input your links to relevent categories that relate to your keywords?
    Have you searched Fiverr.com? If you are looking for a tool, I use Magic Submitter and I like it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Citadelseo
    I can generate high quality back links for your website from various sources. Please check ur PM for more details
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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      Originally Posted by Citadelseo View Post

      I can generate high quality back links for your website from various sources. Please check ur PM for more details
      Hi, I appreciate your offer. may I ask what you mean by various sources?
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun Wilmer
    Hi all, this is my first post, I'm a complete novice to this, building an affiliate website which is proberbly riddled with errors, I'm not finished yet but I need to get it bookmarked as much as poss, and haven't got the time to do it manually , anyone offer there services pls? Also any advise would beit's assize help.its not finished, need to add links and write another post plus other bits and bobs, thanks guys.
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    • Profile picture of the author dws123
      You have to build links manually, this will be a better option than any other process. Many seo optimization services available but linking can be done with the help of tasks like profile submission, top commenting, forum commenting also.
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  • Profile picture of the author engagedotscrm
    Doing manually would generate would result. get n number of quality backlinks through blogs and forums which would generate heavy traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author fanta81
    Don't fall into the trap where people say that they will build 1000 backlinks in a week's time. Instead of increasing PR, it will eventually decrease it. Building the backlinks naturally, is the most effective way of creating backlinks.
    Put quality content, comment on blogs related to your niche, submit site in top quality directories, make your website as your signature while posting in forums and try to exchange two way links with other sites which are related to your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author makqlex00
    To my point of view there is so many automated software, tools for Link building different strategies like for directory submission, blog commenting, social bookmarking.

    But personally i always prefer manual link building and Google appreciate manual working so that we will be able to get some better results with high PR back links.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    What are some good sites to build backlinks that will help you improve your google ratings and your PR? Also, are .edu backlinks as powerful as people say?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohntheGreat
    Originally Posted by Backlink Beaver View Post

    HI, I have been doing SEO for quite some years now. I have never been found of link building. But today the internet is growing and the competition is getting tougher and tougher. Does anyone know of a good link builder, or is the best way to still manually input your links to relevent categories that relate to your keywords?
    If you are looking for a Link Builder, you can go to Elance(dot)com or Odesk and search for SEO link builder specialist. You can hire a linkbuilder for as low as $2. However, if you are looking for a tool that would let you set up categories and build links in auto pilot then you might want to consider Magic Submitter.
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  • Profile picture of the author zannix
    I'd never build links manually. In my opinion that's just crazy. Why?

    Because in the time I spend to manually rank a website, I could make more money than the website will be worth to me in the end (assuming it's med-hi competition KW).

    There's nothing wrong with automation, that's like saying cars are bad because we should all walk on foot.

    However, if you break the gas pedal, that's not good either - so the key is to be smart and intelligent and use automation for something that you would normally do manually.

    For link building purposes, I absolutely recommend Magic Submitter, it's $5 1st month and you can configure it for any site you want (including the sites that come by default).
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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      Originally Posted by zannix View Post

      I'd never build links manually. In my opinion that's just crazy. Why?

      Because in the time I spend to manually rank a website, I could make more money than the website will be worth to me in the end (assuming it's med-hi competition KW).

      There's nothing wrong with automation, that's like saying cars are bad because we should all walk on foot.

      However, if you break the gas pedal, that's not good either - so the key is to be smart and intelligent and use automation for something that you would normally do manually.

      For link building purposes, I absolutely recommend Magic Submitter, it's $5 1st month and you can configure it for any site you want (including the sites that come by default).
      I will give it whirl. Thank you, but one question before i do. Do they tarhet yourkeywords, or does it just spam blogs, most blogs have nofollow's do they offer do follow's only?
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      • Profile picture of the author zannix
        Originally Posted by Backlink Beaver View Post

        I will give it whirl. Thank you, but one question before i do. Do they tarhet yourkeywords, or does it just spam blogs, most blogs have nofollow's do they offer do follow's only?
        The tool has everything, from social boomarks, article submissions, press releases, web 2.0 submissions, forum profile creation, RSS feed submission, etc. and an integrated TBS spinner (which is awesome).

        The sites are a very good mix of dofollow/nofollow, but you can pick out the ones you like best (for example if you wish to use only the high PR sites with dofollow backlinks).
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        • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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          Originally Posted by zannix View Post

          The tool has everything, from social boomarks, article submissions, press releases, web 2.0 submissions, forum profile creation, RSS feed submission, etc. and an integrated TBS spinner (which is awesome).

          The sites are a very good mix of dofollow/nofollow, but you can pick out the ones you like best (for example if you wish to use only the high PR sites with dofollow backlinks).
          I am there. I will let you know how it pans out. I am a little scared too use automated software because I am ranking on the second page of google for the keyword 'buy views' I am trying to hit the first page. I am manually building backlinks, but i do not progress past the bottom of the first page, but mostly remain on page 2. I am tempted to give it a shot. will let you know, but i do not know if i will do it on this keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author ideabreaker
    Article Link Building still works
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    link builder means you provide link building service...
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  • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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    Do it manually - hard work pays off!
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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    Link Building definitely brings you up in the SERPs, but how about PR, I read something the other day about buying extending the registration of your domain to a longer term and that google favors this. I extended my domain to the max term but see no results. I do not know if it is true, but will see, but how about PR, is backlinking alone enough to increase your PR?
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    • Profile picture of the author wnye71
      Ultimate Demon can be programmed to submit links over a period of time. Ie you could get it to submit 200 links over 2 weeks at random time intervals so it looks natural.
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  • Profile picture of the author aadi144
    I recommend you to build links manually they are much more appreciated and bring quality links to your site,automated link builder will not be helpful to get traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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      Originally Posted by aadi144 View Post

      I recommend you to build links manually they are much more appreciated and bring quality links to your site,automated link builder will not be helpful to get traffic.
      What would you recommend is the best way to build backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author fandango123
    Link building... Do follow forums, directory submissions (fast directory submitter works for me to an extent), blog comments just stick to the bread and butter and you'll get there...
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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      Originally Posted by fandango123 View Post

      Link building... Do follow forums, directory submissions (fast directory submitter works for me to an extent), blog comments just stick to the bread and butter and you'll get there...
      Do you think these link wheels work well, or do they just hurt you?
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  • Profile picture of the author whiterock
    According to me you should do it manually and it is the better option, I still believe that most of these automated services hurt your ranking and tehre is a great chance to get caught
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  • Profile picture of the author joann111
    i also do it manually everyday, but man, how tiring that is, i generally do not feel 24 hours a days is enough, my eyes are all soured everyday, want to find a short cut now, just because of too tied to do this everyday.
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlink Beaver
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      Originally Posted by joann111 View Post

      i also do it manually everyday, but man, how tiring that is, i generally do not feel 24 hours a days is enough, my eyes are all soured everyday, want to find a short cut now, just because of too tied to do this everyday.
      I definitely agree. It is a lot of work, but it must be done. It is strenuous and tiring. Buy some eye drops, it helps. If you want it done right, gotta do it yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author rightseosteps
    It is true that doing things manual is better but also time consuming. People rather just spam like crazy to get results until google updates show up. They get enough profit to just start another website. In a way this is unfair but i have seen it happen, but it's unnatural link building. You are better off guest blogging other relevant sites, target the keyword you want but limit yourself. Do maybe 10 guest posts with amazing content and then rank those pages up and force link juice. This way you don't seem eager and its safer rankings.
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    i want 3 way link exchange. i have all theme websites. i need printing related website. if anyone interested pleas mail me at links dot ranking at gmail dot com
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremiah2911
    This guy is an excellent natural, manual link builder. He attracts links using techniques such as infographic creation and distribution, guest posting and finding niche specific links.
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