EZArticleLink, SocialAdr, AMR or UAW

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Hi everyone,

quick question.
I have the following subscriptions or apps at the moment:

- EZArticleLink Gold membership for $34 per month
- SocialAdr Lazy Linkaholic for $110 per months
- AMR which was a one time fee
- Ultimate Demon which was a one time fee (at least for the next two years)
- GSA Search Engine Ranker (one time fee)
- Scrapebox (one time fee)

Now the thing is, I don't know if I need the two subsriptions (EZA and SocialAdr) anymore.

EZArticleLink
For one I don't use EZArticleLink a lot and so the money might be better spent elsewhere and what is even worse, once you cancel their subscription they delete all your links that have been created over the last couple of months which might or might not be a lot.

I mean you paid for them and they delete it once you cancel. So I am just happy that I didn't rely on it too much and that I didn't create thousands of links, because once I cancel my websites might drown in the SERPS heavily.

Ok it was good to get a solid backlinking going and once the article was submit I didn't have to do a thing and the IP diversity was good as well, which was the main purpose of this subscription, but come on, why delete all links after cancelation. And to be honest I didn't have the success some people talk about when using EZArticlelink.

Do you think I can cancel EZA and compensate for that with one of the other tools I own? (AMR has such a low submission rate and let's not talk about the verified live links after one submission. I am not sure if the amount of work you put in to set a campaign up is still worth.)

SocialAdr
I have a Lazy Linkaholic account with SocialAdr and I primarily use this subscription to get a first initial backlinking or bookmarking going. This helps to get indexed faster and the IP diversity is good as well. But here as well, I didn't see any improvements with my websites, even when I created 800-1000 links to a URL. I loved the idea of dripfed bookmarks from different accounts, but if it doesn't work well, why keep it.
Any idea if or how I could compensate for this subscription? I might be able to get the initial backlinking (first 25-50 backlinks) with their daily quick share feature, but don't know if that is enough, or maybe I just switch towards a smaller package.

Article Marketing Robot - AMR
I used to use AMR a lot back in the days. Mainly to get, you kind of guessed it by now, to get a nice IP diversification for my sites, but with 6000 green sites in the list, 1 article leads to 400 successful submissions and out of these 400 submissions you get round about 10-30 live links. So the question is, is AMR still worth the time or are their better services out there.

I know a lot of people suggest Unique Article Wizard (UAW) and say they have success with their sites, but I have never tried it before and I wonder if someone who actually uses UAW and AMR or one of the other apps or subscriptions mentioned above, can share his/her experience. Because it might be a solution as well to cancel EZA and switch to a smaller package with SocialAdr and get a UAW subscription.

But how long does it take you to setup a submission?
What do you need for one submission? And how long do you think it will take to set up one submission when you have Article Builder (content) and SpinRewriter (Spinner)?

Or do you recommend something else - not UAW, AMR or anything mentioned here.

Ultimate Demon (UD)
I own a copy of UD as well and have basically only used it for bookmarking so far and all I can say is that I am not impressed here. Again I have a list of 6000 social bookmarking sites that UD imported and out of these I get round about 450-500 successful bookmarks/backlinks. For the amount of time UD takes to submit or try to submit to all these sites and the amount of captchas used even for the sites that do not work most of the time I think either I am doing it wrong, which might be the case, or UD is not working the way it should be.

But I am eagerly waiting for the linkwheel feature of UD which basically puts it on the same level with SENukeX and Magic Submitter then.

So if someone also uses UD and is willing to help me get more out of UD as it is right now, I would be very happy. I would even compensate for the time you spent helping me.


GSA Search Engine Ranker (GSA SER)
I bought this tool a couple months ago and what I love about it is that you basically can have a comment/trackback campaign running in a minute and even if you setup a whole campaign it doen not take you more than half an hour to an hour max, depending on what information you want to provide yourself or how much you rely on the default texts and comments.

But so far this tool is nothing but awesome. With a full campaign I get a great backlink diversification (and so IP diversification as well) and a couple hundred verified backlinks per month which is awesome.

The only thing annoying (but also great at the same time) is that it gets updated almost daily. So each and everyday you should log on to your VPS, stop all running projects and update the app. Then you can start all projects again and let it run without watching it for the next 24 hours.

The developer Sven is nothing but incredible. He implements almost all ideas and suggestions we have and so you can basically setup almost every thing you can think about. He even implemented a small Multitierfeature that works pretty good.


Conclusion or Question
Ok but the reason for this long post was to ask all of you dealing with and working for SEO clients, what services, subscriptions or apps do you think are necessary to have everything we need for nowadays SEO tasks?

Do you recommend using UAW over AMR or EZArticleLink?

How do you use Ultimate Demon? (Again: If someone is willing to share his or her successful best practice I am more than happy to compensate for the time and knowledge, since I basically just use it for bookmarking at the moment, which is not what it was built for.)

Do you think AMR is still worth the time it takes to setup a campaign or would you switch to another service or do you even think that I don't need AMR anymore with the tools I own in addition (UD, GSA SER)?

And do you think I can safely cancel my EZArticleLink and SocialAdr (Lazy Linkaholic) subscriptions and compensate for them with other services or again, the tools I mentioned above and own?

Looking forward to all you ideas and help. Please share your experience and contact me of you would like to help me with UD or something else. Maybe someone has a UAW subscription and wants to share the account or something like that. Please feel free to contact me via PM.

Thanks a lot
Dan
#amr #ezarticlelink #socialadr #uaw #ultimate demon
  • Profile picture of the author Trevor
    For social bookmarking, I use Social Monkee, Bookmarking demon and yes, SocialADR too.

    I stopped using AMR and UAW some time ago after the Google Penguin update.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by Trevor View Post

      For social bookmarking, I use Social Monkee, Bookmarking demon and yes, SocialADR too.

      I stopped using AMR and UAW some time ago after the Google Penguin update.
      Someone in another thread said that social monkee had most of its sites deindexed. Are you sure its still worth using?
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Thank Trevor. Social Monkee - is that the service you can get 25 backlinks for free each day? I also have Bookmarking Demon, but I rarely used it. Not Sure why, maybe I thought it is to hard to setup. I use UD now which is from the same company Edwinsoft. I think UD and BD also use the same engine or script.

    When you stopped using AMR and UAW - did you stop with article marketing completely and solely rely on social bookmarking (Social Monkee, Bookmarking Demon and SocialAdr)?

    Have you had success with SocialAdr at all? Do you set a limit on each bookmark that you submit? Do you use the free account or a paid one?
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Honestly I think it's all crap, I would only use bookmarks to vary up anchor txt's but that's about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Hey nik0,

    what do you mean all crap: UAW, AMR, UD; GSA SER all crap or Social Monkee, Bookmarking Demon and SocialAdr all crap?

    And as I said above I only use Social Bookmarks to vary up anchor text and increase IP diversity. The bookmark backlinks alone are not worth a lot, I would even say social bookmark backlinks can be seen as low value backlinks, but this might just be my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by danielneubauer View Post

      Hey nik0,

      what do you mean all crap: UAW, AMR, UD; GSA SER all crap or Social Monkee, Bookmarking Demon and SocialAdr all crap?

      And as I said above I only use Social Bookmarks to vary up anchor text and increase IP diversity. The bookmark backlinks alone are not worth a lot, I would even say social bookmark backlinks can be seen as low value backlinks, but this might just be my opinion.
      Yep all low quality crap that it produces and when you do it to often you get hit by the Penguin before you know it.

      You don't need IP diversity just for the sake of it, sure your links need to come from different IP's, but just to add links to have more IP's makes not much sense.

      Varying up your anchor txt won't hurt I guess although I would still be careful, with it. 50 social bookmark platforms is more then enough imo.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Hi Arenakkg,

    I know what EZArticleLink is, because I used it for a couple of months. I just want to know how to compensate for their links once I cancel, because I don't like their attitude when it comes to cancelling my subscription. Why do they delete all backlinks ever build once you cancel your subscription? I mean I paid for the membership and delivered content for their networks as well.

    Some people solely rely on EZA links but be warned basically you have to stay on your subscription your entire life because once you cancel all links get deleted from their system, which means they will disappear in Googles eyes over time as well and the longer you use their service the more links will disappear and the harder your site will drop in the SERPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    And to add something as well. I just would love to share experience and knowledge with people that have used one of the tools I mentioned above.

    EZArticle Link
    Unique Article Wizard (UAW)
    Article Marketing Robot (AMR)
    Ultimate Demon (UD)
    GSA Search Engine Ranker (GSA SER)
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    • Profile picture of the author lestertarry
      EZArticleLink Gold give the nice offer to the people. I think the 34$ is very small amount for the monthly membership. People get a profit to do the membership with EZArticleLink.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Hi lestertarry,

    that might be the case but be warned as soon as you cancel their subscription, or you have to be their paying member for life, then all you links are being deleted and will disappear which will result in ranking drops for all your sites you used EZA for.

    So this is why I will definitely cancel my subscription asap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    I used SocialADR for about 24 hours and started seeing some odd things in the logs and stats that didn't sit well with me. Nothing like hacking and such, just oddities and strange user behavior.

    Now I have developed my own little system involving a select few fiverr gigs to handle it for me, every time I create new content I start the ranking process with them and once they are done I take over and do the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Hey cooler1 and Nelapsi,

    thanks for taking part in this discussion.
    I didn't know that SocialMonkee sites have been deindexed. But thanks for bringing that up.

    @Nelapsi: That is exactly what I think as well. I spent $100 a month and I don't even know what they do and notice strange stuff sometimes as well. So I wonder if it really would be better to switch to something else.

    I just don't know if Fiverr gigs are the way to go since most of the stuff at Fiverr is crap, at least when it comes to backlinking services or SEO.

    Maybe you are willing to share the gigs you used successfully. If you don't like to make them public, maybe you can share them via PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Thanks Morpheus26,

    that is exactly what I wanted to know.
    Are these services still worth the time and money and what is the experience of others using these products?

    Regards,
    Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Come on guys I guess you have more to say about this topic since I am pretty sure it affects a lot of people in this forum.

    Please share your experience!
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Hey nik0,

    again thanks. So you basically say everything is crap.
    What kind of backlinks do you think are not crap and do you know a software that can produce them or do you create all links manually?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernies
    Hey,

    I have used many of these products and got similar results as you which is very disappointing. I like Socialadr, since its pretty much auto pilot, but I think I'll try outsource $40 worth of backlinks on fiverr and ODesk instead of subscribing to any program.
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    • Profile picture of the author RuggeroSB
      Sorry to revive an old thread, but actually this conversation is as valid today as it was when it was started. Frankly I don't understand why people post unsupported opinions which appear to be from those who haven't even used these tools and how few people actually answered the OP .

      Firstly let me add a disclaimer here: I'm NOT saying that purely spamming thousands of links will get you great results. I'm not saying it won't either, because sometimes it does - I have personally experienced this. We've even outranked some big authorities like Virgin Holidays on some reasonably competitive keywords, all post-penguin and post-panda, so I'm talking about "now" results. But some of these tools have their place in an SEO's arsenal.

      The trick with these tools, like anything is to take your time to build up quality projects/campaigns with them. Don't use the default spintax they provide. Don't use hotmail/gmail etc. If you're spinning your content, DO IT RIGHT, don't just auto-churn out garbage. Take the time (or outsource) to develop good quality content and campaigns on the respective software. Just remember: garbage in = garbage out. That simple.

      Originally Posted by Ernies View Post

      I have used many of these products and got similar results as you which is very disappointing. I like Socialadr, since its pretty much auto pilot, but I think I'll try outsource $40 worth of backlinks on fiverr and ODesk instead of subscribing to any program.
      And where do you think they're getting their links from? I can assure you, they're not "quality hand-picked, relevant links". They use software. I've used services like this and could not believe how poor quality the stuff was. I can even cite link packs for over $187 sold by reputable companies that are absolutely aweful in quality. Don't believe for a second that just because you paid for it (or paid a lot for it) you'll get good quality links!

      Originally Posted by danielneubauer View Post

      Hey nik0,

      again thanks. So you basically say everything is crap.
      What kind of backlinks do you think are not crap and do you know a software that can produce them or do you create all links manually?
      Fair question. @nik0 can you at least quantify your statements? Or at least provide evidence of what "does" work in your experience (not just your opinion)?

      K, rant over. To answer the OP directly (in as few words as possible, 'cuz you could write an article on each of these):

      EZArticleLink -
      Ironically I have just stumbled onto this service today and am seriously considering it! I've never liked like the idea of "renting" links (which effectively is what ends up happening if you go for their Gold plan since you can't cancel and keep your links), although it's not an uncommon practice to pay a few bucks a month to keep a link alive on just 1 website and even to provide the content to go with it, so for $34 if that's your thing it's no big deal. Why not try the free one? You'll still get the main system (with a few minor limitations) and you have nothing to lose in terms of paid subscription.

      EDIT: I just realised you already have a gold subscription. Bummer. Then the question becomes, how much of your rank and income can you attribute to EZArticleLink? Do some backlink analysis on the affected sites and try and gauge how much of an impact EZA has had on your rankings. For example, If you've got a few high PR links from other sources and EZA only gives you PR 0 or n/a links, then all you need to do is push up a GSA campaign for a week or so before killing your EZA subscription with little concern about any backlash.

      SocialAdr -
      I was really after the social voting element of SocialAdr when I signed up, only to find out that it's basically just a bookmark spammer, and the social voting system is not worth much at all. The links (bookmarks) generated from their sources are, well, bookmarks, so not worth anything measurable at all in terms of link juice. I scrapped them - I think I still have credits just sitting there.

      Article Marketing Robot -
      Oh Geez, I regret having ever bought this! The amount of time and effort you have to put in to get just a handful of any links at all (nevermind good quality links) does not warrant it. The directories it comes with are basically all either hacked, dead or spambuckets. You have to either buy directory lists from Fiverr (which I did) or scrape them yourself, and even then submission / verification rate was dismal. It did once have a heyday, but it's completely Useless by today's standards.

      Ultimate Demon -
      I have SENukeXcr, so I didn't bother getting UD. In terms of SENukeX - it has a very "pretty" user interface and actually I find that it tried almost too hard to oversimplify the process of creating potentially very intricate campaigns. I find myself using the "Wizard" and then going into each project and making changes because the wizard has made assumptions for you.

      It uses the system's built-in browser so GET A GOOD ANTIVIRUS!

      The ability to mash up your own project templates and add your own sources are a big plus, and together with using good quality spin content, this is where the REAL power is. Again, crap in, crap out - take the extra steps no one else does and you'll see very different results from everyone else.

      GSA Search Engine Ranker (GSA SER)
      THIS TOOL IS A MUST HAVE. Period. It's just crazy awesome. A word of warning though: it's extremely resource hungry. Forget using it on a 2 Core 2Gig RAM VPS. Personally, I say forget using it on any VPS frankly! Get a dedicated server if you can afford one, especially if you have a number of tools you're using. Alternatively, don't skimp on the VPS.

      I hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author danielneubauer
    Hi Ernies,

    but do you think we might be better off canceling our SocialAdr subscription and either buy fiverr gigs or find another service?

    What kind of services or products did you use and what kind of experiences did you make?
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  • Profile picture of the author kenpo
    Very nice summary RuggeroSB, I think you've covered all the bases. I'm glad I held off on buying AMR, UD, and BMD. I do have SeNukeXcr and find it to be an extremely useful tool to have in my tool chest. Thanks again for the very detailed explanation.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    Personally I will recommend the GSA search ranker, it's able to build links on many of the platform. But it will burn up a lot of capcha unless you are using sniper capcha
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    • Profile picture of the author RuggeroSB
      Originally Posted by WinsonYeung View Post

      Personally I will recommend the GSA search ranker, it's able to build links on many of the platform. But it will burn up a lot of capcha unless you are using sniper capcha
      Oh definitely! Even with SENuke Captcha Sniper with failover to human service like DBC is a must! Look out for Captcha Breaker as an alternative to CS (was just released yesterday). It's the same developer as GSA SER and the beta testers have been raving about it. A little steep in the price if you ask me, but if it does what it claims and it does it better than CS, then I say it's 100% worth it.

      Originally Posted by kenpo View Post

      Very nice summary RuggeroSB, I think you've covered all the bases. I'm glad I held off on buying AMR, UD, and BMD. I do have SeNukeXcr and find it to be an extremely useful tool to have in my tool chest. Thanks again for the very detailed explanation.
      You're welcome!
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      • Profile picture of the author ErikWeich31021
        UAW is my choice of tools because...
        • Original Articles (non spun originals) can be written for you and auto posted to your website by your author profiles (use the UAW plugin) and you can get social benefits through the social exchange... this can be done automatically, scheduled or manually reviewed and posted
        • Articles/Content/Sites etc can be shared in their social exchange to gain likes, shares, follows, tweets, retweets, views and more... by real people, not bought, borrowed or stolen
        • Spun Articles can be submitted to the UAW network safely (dripped out) all human reviewed, no spam policy
        • Author Profiles get listed in PR4 site with do follow social site listing for all your authors other social network profiles - they have a service to get your author profiles automatically for you, list you and there are rumors on more social updates coming soon
        • Content is submitted to 2.0 properties automatically
        • Keyword Ranking Tracker
        • Great customer support

        And a whole lot more check out their latest blog post on only some of their great updates and enhancements Content Marketing - More Than Just Articles!
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  • Profile picture of the author fsweet
    Thank you all for this great discussion it convinced me that as of Jan 2013 the very best option is GSA SER , the best post here for me was the rather complete discussion bt RuggeroSB. Many thanks. You really can't loose because there is a 5 day free trial.

    but to complete your tool chest you will need to pay for captcha software or buy it. His GSA Captcha Breaker is the only one that does not require a recurring fee, and as I recall also has a 5day trial.
    However there is another piece of the puzzle missing:
    You will need link indexing software; which I have been unable to find a review of at the WF, so I'll start a new thread.
    Many thanks, folks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shevd
    I would avoid using any of these tools for a solid long term SEO strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaytav
    This is 2013. Even Thinking of using softwares for SEO might penalize your site Go manual that's what gonna help you these days.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamesbrands
      Using software is fine, as long as you use it sensibly.

      I have UAW and social ADR for bookmarking. Do these tools alone get my sites ranked...NO. But they help to dilute anchor text and give me some link diversity.
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      • Profile picture of the author anwar001
        A lot of public blog networks got deindexed by Google such as BMR, ALN etc. So, I would suggest that you be careful with UAW and use it as second tier links instead of linking directly to your money site. The same goes for AMR or Ultimate Demon. Use them only for building second tier links.

        As far as tier 1 links go - try to get high PR links through guest posting, manual blog commenting on quality blogs, links from Doc Sharing sites, high PR human-reviewed article directories and web 2.0 sites, or from social media sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author jamesbrands
          Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

          A lot of public blog networks got deindexed by Google such as BMR, ALN etc. So, I would suggest that you be careful with UAW and use it as second tier links instead of linking directly to your money site. The same goes for AMR or Ultimate Demon. Use them only for building second tier links.

          As far as tier 1 links go - try to get high PR links through guest posting, manual blog commenting on quality blogs, links from Doc Sharing sites, high PR human-reviewed article directories and web 2.0 sites, or from social media sites.
          UAW cant be comapred to BMR or ALN because it's differen't. Thats not to say its immune from being slapped.

          Or for tier 1 you could just buy some high PR domains if you have the money and save alot of time and effort.
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          • Profile picture of the author RuggeroSB
            Originally Posted by kaytav View Post

            This is 2013. Even Thinking of using softwares for SEO might penalize your site Go manual that's what gonna help you these days.
            Originally Posted by Shevd View Post

            I would avoid using any of these tools for a solid long term SEO strategy.
            With respect, nonsense.

            Originally Posted by jamesbrands View Post

            Using software is fine, as long as you use it sensibly.

            I have UAW and social ADR for bookmarking. Do these tools alone get my sites ranked...NO. But they help to dilute anchor text and give me some link diversity.
            Totally agree!

            Originally Posted by anwar001 View Post

            A lot of public blog networks got deindexed by Google such as BMR, ALN etc. So, I would suggest that you be careful with UAW and use it as second tier links instead of linking directly to your money site. The same goes for AMR or Ultimate Demon. Use them only for building second tier links.

            As far as tier 1 links go - try to get high PR links through guest posting, manual blog commenting on quality blogs, links from Doc Sharing sites, high PR human-reviewed article directories and web 2.0 sites, or from social media sites.
            I may be a little less cautious than you, but I certainly agree that good quality links should also play an important roll in your SEO campaign. Not to say that (in my experience) tools alone don't sometimes rank keywords, 'cuz they do.

            Discounting "tools" or "automation" is unnecessary and actually when used correctly serve a purpose of their own too, even if just for anchor text dilution alone. Now, the disclaimer here is if you plan to just "spam" the hell out of sites with pure spintax garbage that makes no sense using hotmail and gmail accounts and not take the time to set up good quality campaigns using these tools, then ya rather leave it out and look for a blog post to comment on or something.
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            • Profile picture of the author Smykkeronline
              Hi.

              About Ezarticlelink, instead cancelling subscription, you can downgrade to silver membership, you will then keep all links posted up till the day you downgrade.

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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Back in the day I was using ezArticleLink to rank on the 1st page of Google. Very powerful service but not as effective as it used to be due to the changes in Google's algorithm. I'm also a big fan of SocialAdr. In this current climate I would probably go with SocialAdr. I actually use it give my YouTube videos a ranking boost.
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