Proof The EMD Update Does Not Target Crappy EMDs

I moved up in rankings in all of my emds. From #6 to #1 in one case #8 to #3 in another.

There's always going to be more than meets the eye with each Google algo. update, that's the whole point of not telling anyone their secrets.

There is also the possibility that the update is not yet done rolling out...

I understand your thinking. Seems like they didn't penalize EMDs, as you say quite impossible to implement, just took away the benefit that this attribute once had in terms of relevance (IMO).

My emds are fine. It has something to do with other signals that tells google it's a crappy emd site. Not just domain name.

I agree with you. EMDs will never gone, because until certain point all websites, including big brands are EMDs. Take a look at this search query : https://www.google.com/search?q=hond...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Obviously, Honda.com is an EMD, yet you still see it ranking number #1. You cannot target all EMDs as that is a silly idea, you will even affect big brands, large and small businesses.

You CAN still rank EMDs and they will never lose their boost, It would be silly if Toyota outranks Honda for the search term Honda right? Now you may think that I'm idiotic for giving an example with such a big brand, where obviously it will have thousands of links and a large amount of pages, but this concept also applies to small businesses, vets, restaurants, etc all this small business won't have such a large amount of backlinks, it will ruin users experience by dropping them in the SERPS just because it's an EMD for it's own business name...

I also don't think this updates targets the anchor text, as that's pretty much what Penguin is for. But you are right, they must be checking a given factor to determine if it's someone trying to get a given keyword or if it's a real brand providing real value to the world... Most of people building EMDs for the solely purpose of getting that keyword they often have a one page website and many times it's a really short article.

I think they will be looking at how many pages your website has and if it has affiliate links ( pretty much any outgoing link could be a potential affiliate website, therefore you are at risk ). Real businesses won't have just one page of content right? and they won't link to their competitor, correct me if I'm wrong.

None of my EMDs have lost their rankings so far, but I build atleast 20-30 pages per website, and vary up my anchor text.

Oh yeah I have no doubt this update is (also) an offpage update. Most of my first page non-EMDs got blasted out of the Top 100. The ones that didn't seem to have a fair amount of real links coming to them...and some essence of a social signal.

As Bnetwork pointed out before as well, I think this update has a lot to do with site structure, as that could better indicate if a site is an EMD or not, besides that many sites dropped that were non EMD.

Google is also definitely using number of advertisements in his filter cause it simply can't be that every single local client of mine is still ranking perfectly fine with the exact same back links and sometimes a bit crappy or few content, while at the same time MANY affiliate/adsense sites are hit.

That just doesn't add up!

yep weird as hell!

Obviously every name is a "EDM". The difference is that a domain like "bestvacuumbluecleanerreviews" is clearly a name trying to take advantage of the emd "boost". If I can instantly spot it, I can program a machine to spot it. Stop overthinking it people, it's very simple:

If you intentionally bought a domain name with the sole purpose of ranking that name as a keyword, you are going to leave some sort of footprint.

Buy good domain names that make sense, write articles that make sense on the subject you want to rank for and get a good backlinking profile. Forget the rest and you will not have to worry about these things. If you get hit anyway, you can request a reconsideration, so chill the f*** out.

Strong point but an even more serious issue that might have catastrophic implications is that Becker and I have agreed twice within the last 24 hours. I am beginning to think this Mayan calendar thing might have something to it. downright scary. There may will be a rift in space -time that could tear the planet apart.

My site Toyota Hilux Vigo 2013 2012 New 2011 2010 2009 2008 Minor Change Toyota Vigo Thailand Toyota Fortuner Nissan Navara 4x4 Pickup Truck Dealer Exporter SUV Thailand Australia NZ UK Dubai Dealer has been hit on "Toyota Hilux Vigo" and "Toyota hilux" related searches but is fine on all other searches so it does seem that Google is targeting EMDs just because they are exact match for the particular keyword. Three crappy contents are doing better than mine even though they have spun content.

I don't know, to claim proof of this based on some limited data set is a stretch to say the least especially when you don't know the qualifiers for the pattern being searched for. It could be some strange combination of number of global searches for a keyword with an exact match domain that has less then 30 pages of content none of which updated in 30 days and 90% of the backlinks are focused on the homepage. So without knowing all of this you are barely even guessing nevermind proving anything.

I don't understand how this is proof?

All it is, is your opinion, which is going to be different than Google's opinion. and it is Google's opinion that matters.

Not only that but just because your sites haven't been hit doesn't mean they will be safe in the future.

Same with other sites. A lot of people are pointing to others sites saying well these guys haven't been hit and their site is crap.

Again stuff like that is just that person's own opinion and not Googles, and just because others sites haven't been hit, doesn't mean they won't in the future.

No one knows yet how sites are going to be affected exactly, but everyone does know sites are currently being affected.

im starting to think maybe if a seed word is mentioned many times and that see word is also in the domain, maybe its Getting that person was trying to target as the typical EMD sniper thingy magig?

I completely agree with this. I have several EMD's and a couple of them disappeared, but the only difference between the ones that disappeared and the ones that still rank #1 is the backlink profile...

Edit:Oh yes, and I forgot to mention that everything is EXACTLY the SAME on all sites EXCEPT the backlinking.

does it related to .com or .org?

I got a site EMD.org drop ranking until no where found but my competitor EMD.com now rank in 1st page and the content is duplicate one.

I do have another site EMD.com and it still remain in good ranking place.

I wondering someone here got similar experience?

None of my sites are EMD's, but a few were hit hard.

Google is loving forums and crowdsourced solutions to problems (in lower value niches).

In higher value niches it's creaming off the profits (e.g. watercoolers - 12 ads on the page, only 2 organic results visible). This will work of course until they get hit with a big anti-trust lawsuit. It's coming, and it will hurt.

Back to the main topic here. All sites are emd's, so it cannot be an anti emd algorithm. It is bound to be a further expansion of the penguin update, looking at spammy link portfolios, and spun or copied content that holds little value. I also think that Google is looking much more at bounce rates of sites.
Many emd sites are spammy cock juice, aimed at getting good rankings to play the numbers games on converting affiliate products or other advertising. This I feel is what the target is. It doesn't matter if you have 500 pages if people only stay on your site for 5 seconds. Is your content relevant, helpful, informative? Is it giving clients what they would want when they search that term?
Emd's help with indexing, as they should, do what they say on the tin. If they do not, I think that in the long run, the majority will disapear.
I would mainly use emds as blogs or blog based sites ( like wordpress), where content can be updated easily, and made to be relevant to that search term. I would not add any advertising till my site was well entrenched in that top 10, and it had alternative streams of traffic, so Google can see that it is a site worthy of its position.
Sticking up x number of pages of shitty content, filling the link profile with scraped software shit links, and hoping is not going to pay off in the long run, in my opinion.

It's seemed to be mostly thin sites penalized. I have seen some high content site owners screaming, but not having seen their sites, who knows if it was quality content or crappy content or how they were building links. It's hard to tell if most of the webmasters being penalized are those trying all sorts of linking tricks to rank highly quickly or not, which could be another thing to consider. Would a webmaster who gets the EMD for a term they want to rank quickly for be more apt to go crazy on links with anchor text with that term than someone without an EMD?

Perhaps it's more than just thin sites being punished but thin SEO efforts as well.

And authority also doesn't mean lots of pages. Authority means you are an expert in the field and capable of giving expert advice and the resources to have updated information like in the job market or health niche. This is just a guess but I'm positive no one here has a quality site in the health niche lol. Yeah right.

haha everyone is a yeast infection expert these days!

For sure, we've seen two EMD sites get hit since the 27th. Both are EMD and well optimized on-page, -and the only factor here we can pin-point is thin content that hasn't been updated in ages.

It's definitely targeting the EMDs with thin content from where I can see.

Even my authority site earnbyblog.com got hit from #1 to Nowhere for keyword "earn by blog"?