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I have been reading posts about how to get quality backlinks. It sounds like getting backlinks from article directories does not work anymore. Does this mean that getting backlinks from sites like, hubpages, squidoo, and ezine is a waste of time. If it is, where should I be getting backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by brittneyj View Post

    I have been reading posts about how to get quality backlinks. It sounds like getting backlinks from article directories does not work anymore. Does this mean that getting backlinks from sites like, hubpages, squidoo, and ezine is a waste of time. If it is, where should I be getting backlinks?
    Article directory backlinks have been useless for a long time, now. The good backlinks you get through article directories are the ones from the relevant sites to which your work is syndicated after being made available for that purpose in a directory. That's all an article directory is: a stepping-stone to re-publication in more useful places: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

    And in general, you should be getting backlinks from sites specifically relevant to your niche. Context-relevance is the primary determinant of "linkjuice".

    (Should be asking here, really: Adsense / PPC / SEO Discussion Forum ).
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    • Profile picture of the author paolo83
      Hi,

      the way i see it it's more about the quality of the backlinks rather than the quantity.

      The only way to know for real is to try for a specific amount of time and track the results. Yes, it is time consuming but then you'll know what's really working and what's not.

      A faster way to get results is to build a relationship with few key bloggers in your niche and offer to write for them a series of articles(guest blogging) for free but leaving the link back to your website. Because blogs tend to have a more active community it should be more effective. Then again it really depends on your content and the niche itself.

      That said try something, be consistent but make sure you track what's going on.
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    • Profile picture of the author brittneyj
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Article directory backlinks have been useless for a long time, now. The good backlinks you get through article directories are the ones from the relevant sites to which your work is syndicated after being made available for that purpose in a directory. That's all an article directory is: a stepping-stone to re-publication in more useful places: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      And in general, you should be getting backlinks from sites specifically relevant to your niche. Context-relevance is the primary determinant of "linkjuice".

      (Should be asking here, really: Adsense / PPC / SEO Discussion Forum ).
      Alexa, I actually read your article directory post from another member's thread. It was helpful but I can't find any blogs to guest blog on in my niche. I have found blogs and forums I can comment on. Would commenting be a good backlink?

      Also, can I comment on my own blog if I use proxies? I know this is a black hat tactic.
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    • Profile picture of the author brittneyj
      Also, all of the blogs I have found are affiliates using the same online stores that I am.
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    • Profile picture of the author brittneyj
      Nevermind about the last comment. I found guest blogging sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author zakizarifah
        Originally Posted by brittneyj View Post

        Nevermind about the last comment. I found guest blogging sites.
        Hi brittneyj

        You can looking for free blog posting or paid?

        I have hard time finding free ones esp. with high PR.
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    • Profile picture of the author zakizarifah
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Article directory backlinks have been useless for a long time, now. The good backlinks you get through article directories are the ones from the relevant sites to which your work is syndicated after being made available for that purpose in a directory. That's all an article directory is: a stepping-stone to re-publication in more useful places: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      And in general, you should be getting backlinks from sites specifically relevant to your niche. Context-relevance is the primary determinant of "linkjuice".

      (Should be asking here, really: Adsense / PPC / SEO Discussion Forum ).

      Thanks Alexa Smith for sharing a great tips.

      One question

      Is it worth to have two unique article, one of which post to your site and the other post to to EZA?

      I doing this to avoid duplicate content. ( In case you asking )

      Thank you in advance.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Oooh, they've moved the thread down here, to SEO. I see ... that's where it's gone.

        I don't post down here very often. I don't have a strong enough stomach to read some of the stuff here. Even this thread contains some horrible misinformation, now (I've reported a couple of posts, and they might disappear.).

        Edited to add: they've been removed!


        Websites don't "have PR". Only pages have "page rank".

        Whatever the page rank of an article directory's own home page, your articles in it are published on PR-0 pages. Nobody in their right mind is submitting articles to directories for backlinks from the directory. That isn't how article directories work. Those are non-context-relevant sites. The only purpose of submitting articles to a directory is to announce their availability for people to syndicate to sites in your niche. Those backlinks are worth having (though the main aim is to get targeted traffic, of course, not backlinks). An article directory is simply a stepping-stone: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

        Originally Posted by brittneyj View Post

        Alexa, I actually read your article directory post from another member's thread. It was helpful but I can't find any blogs to guest blog on in my niche.
        Yes, this can be a problem. I have a niche like that. (Nowadays, this is something I take into account when selecting new niches, but that doesn't help with existing ones for which that isn't true, of course).

        Originally Posted by brittneyj View Post

        I have found blogs and forums I can comment on. Would commenting be a good backlink?
        Yes, certainly. The value of a backlink from any page of the web doesn't depend on the content to which it's attached. It doesn't matter whether it's a guest post or a comment. It doesn't matter whether it's previously been published or not (of course, that's part of the underlying basis of "article syndication"). It doesn't matter if it's in Google's main index or its supplemental index. They all count, if they're on relevant sites.

        Originally Posted by zakizarifah View Post

        Thanks Alexa Smith for sharing a great tips.

        One question

        Is it worth to have two unique article, one of which post to your site and the other post to to EZA?
        Noooooo, never give an article directory the initial indexation-rights to any content which you could have first published on your own site and had indexed there!

        These two threads explain why ...
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

        Originally Posted by zakizarifah View Post

        I doing this to avoid duplicate content. ( In case you asking )
        You found this link, I think? Article Marketers - Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog
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        • Profile picture of the author Complex
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          • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
            Originally Posted by Complex View Post

            Initial indexation rights is a term you made up. Google does not use it. They do not and John Mueller himself has backed this up, guaranteed that the site where the content appeared first will be the one that actually ranks.

            They make it clear that they have the right to show whichever piece of content they deem to be the most relevant and authoritative and that does not have to be the original piece.
            Originally Posted by Complex View Post

            Sorry, but you seem to be the one dishing out misinformation.
            I beg your pardon?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      The good backlinks you get through article directories are the ones from the relevant sites to which your work is syndicated after being made available for that purpose in a directory.
      This is exactly true.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    You should be getting backlinks by producing articles, posts, products or services that people want to share. These other people who like what you've created enough that they want others to know about it are the ones that create the links. If you're going around the web trying to create links back to your own site, you'll always be behind the leaders in whatever market you're targeting.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittneyj
    What about commenting on niche related blogs for backlinks? Does it matter if it is a low pr blog as long as it is in your niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author zakizarifah
    Hi Alexa Smith

    Want to the link you provide that talk about duplicate content and Syndication.

    All I can said it great post.

    Now I understand better and duplicate content.

    Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author Happyeagle
    Most do not work. I would focus on the top article directories, the ones you mentioned above, and forget the rest.

    As for the blog comments - the overall PR of the site matters as well as the amount of outgoing links on the blog post. For example, a blog post with 1000 comments with 1000 outgoing links will not be as useful as a high Pr website with a blog post with 10 comments with 10 outgoing links.

    Hope that helps
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    • Profile picture of the author brittneyj
      What if the domain has a decent PR but the page has a pr of 0?
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      • Profile picture of the author zakizarifah
        Originally Posted by brittneyj View Post

        What if the domain has a decent PR but the page has a pr of 0?
        I have read somewhere that IF the home page have pr 9 and the inner page is PR 0 ( recent post no backlink at all ) and you have link from the inner page then your backlink is PR 0.

        Unless the site have inner linking from the highest PR to all the pages in the site.
        ( reverse engineered )

        PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I WRONG.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by Complex View Post

          Contextual relevancy is determined at the page level, not the site level.
          That is wrong. From the perspective of article marketing, it's the determination of that at the site level that's the significant one. That's why article directory backlinks are worthless. That was the purpose and outcome of the largest of the 2011 Panda updates.

          The underlying basis of the SEO benefits from content syndication (the way that so many of us are making our full-time livings here), arises partly because what you've said above isn't so. And Google has made it very clear that it isn't going to be so, either.

          Originally Posted by Complex View Post

          Initial indexation rights is a term you made up. Google does not use it. They do not and John Mueller himself has backed this up, guarantee that the site where the content appeared first will be the one that actually ranks.
          Of course they don't. Nobody's suggesting that they do that. If you imagined that any of the article marketers here suggested that, you might want to brush up your reading skills, a little?!

          What you don't realise (in contrast to the very large and growing number of us who are making our livings this way) is that there are still enormous cumulative advantages of acquiring the initial indexation-rights for one's own site. The way you're looking at it is the way of all the people who end up starting off threads with titles like "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More" because their own sites can't even outrank an article directory. And they never realise that they did it to themselves.

          If you want to learn something, instead of repeating the myths of the Urban Myth School of SEO, take a look through this thread, some time: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html . In it, you'll find a whole succession of successful, experienced, professional article marketers (unlike you, we're people who are making a living from article marketing) explaining at length and in detail all our shared reasons for always publishing all our content on our own sites first and not submitting it anywhere else until after it's been indexed.

          Every algorithm-change Google makes helps us out. And there are reasons for that!

          All those Panda updates of 2011 were a huge bonus for us: they made it possible for us to put all our articles in EZA without any risk that our potential customers might find them there (obviously the last thing we'd want, for all the reasons explained in this post).

          The Penguin updates did us further favors, clearing out of the SERP's so many of the sites of "marketers" who had acquired large numbers of backlinks from non-relevant-sites. Marketers who - if they thought about it at all - believed like you do that "Contextual relevancy is determined at the page level, not the site level".

          The people who believed that, with you, are the same ones whose businesses were hammered by all those Google updates.

          The people who knew that what you've said isn't true were (as usual) the beneficiaries.

          This is why article marketers don't like posting down here. It's the "Wild Urban Myth" section of the forum, where grotesque misinformation fills more space than helpful commentary.

          One of the reasons some people have such difficulty with article marketing is that they read deeply mistaken comments like the ones you've just offered, and they actually believe them! That's why they're typically not earning a living through their online "businesses".
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  • Profile picture of the author Happyeagle
    If the domain has a decent PR, then the comment with the link will have some value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joetheblogger
    As an article directory owner myself, I can tell you that some directories are worthwhile.

    For example, my directory has a PR of 4 (used to be 5) and there are only 5OBL on an article + the links you put in the article.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    If all you care about on EZA is a backlink for SEO, why bother with a PR0 (at best) link?

    I don't get the fascination people have with article directories, especially when it comes to SEO. You can get PR0 links all day long without an article.

    I'm sure the owner of EZA loves people posting free content, s/he's laughing all the way to the bank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cid008
    I am actually worry about back linking and this post have a lot of information!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mellisa Haynes
    Guest posting has been magical for me. I've been able to get up guest posts on A-list blogs, which has given my website some authority. I recommend you to try it out as well. You would also have control over anchor text and content in this regard.
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  • Profile picture of the author juntenx
    quality backlink = same niche , high pr , authority site , etc..
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  • Profile picture of the author MLMBrander
    Many are selling tons of back link but the quality is compromised. Make sure you only create links on authority sites from within the same niche -this will enhance the results of your back linking efforts. One best and easiest way to do this is do blog guesting.

    Cheers!
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