Massive rank decrease when starting to build backlinks

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Hello fellow warriors,

Have you experienced a massive rank decrease in SERPs (around 90 places) when you suddenly start building backlinks to a site again (after a couple of months of not doing so)?

I think it has happened before but not sure if rank decreased that much.

Hoping to hear your advice and comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author asiriusthoth
    Yes, that is known to have happen. Backlinks are about consistency. If you aren't continually building links, and all of a sudden a bunch appear; Google thinks something is up. If there is a gap in backlink creation... start off slow. Slowly build up, don't just throw a few thousand at the site and hope for the best. Usually starting back up will result in your site decreasing in SERPs... keep it up though; it will bounce back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Yeah, you have to keep things constant.

    Generally when my sites get a bunch of new links they drop for a little bit. But I just keep steadily building links and then they come back stronger then ever!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sandakelum
    I give up building links for SEO, Instead I post quality content hoping for natural links.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshuaReen
      Originally Posted by Sandakelum View Post

      I give up building links for SEO, Instead I post quality content hoping for natural links.
      this is the great thinking. i personally prefer this method, and always create unique and high quality content for my blog. all of backlinks to my blog are natural. i didn't created a single backlink to my blog. my blog gets 150+ visitors per day from Google. it has 61 posts only.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by asiriusthoth View Post

        Yes, that is known to have happen. Backlinks are about consistency. If you aren't continually building links, and all of a sudden a bunch appear; Google thinks something is up. If there is a gap in backlink creation... start off slow. Slowly build up, don't just throw a few thousand at the site and hope for the best. Usually starting back up will result in your site decreasing in SERPs... keep it up though; it will bounce back.
        Originally Posted by Slin View Post

        Yeah, you have to keep things constant.

        Generally when my sites get a bunch of new links they drop for a little bit. But I just keep steadily building links and then they come back stronger then ever!

        Whatever you do, do not listen to these two. Consistency has nothing to do with building a good link profile. In fact, in most cases, it is just the opposite.

        Link building consistency is a myth started by low quality link builders. They have to consistently be building new backlinks because low quality links tend to disappear almost as fast as you build them. So if you are not "consistently" building new links, you are not gaining any traction.

        Unfortunately, people over the past few years have confused this phenomena with the real world and think that all link building efforts have to be done on a "consistent" effort.

        That is simply not true. There are plenty of sites in the world that rank fantastically and receive spikes in links all the time with very few links coming in at other times.

        I have never built links consistently and never will. It's a completely stupid idea.
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        • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Whatever you do, do not listen to these two. Consistency has nothing to do with building a good link profile. In fact, in most cases, it is just the opposite.

          Link building consistency is a myth started by low quality link builders. They have to consistently be building new backlinks because low quality links tend to disappear almost as fast as you build them. So if you are not "consistently" building new links, you are not gaining any traction.

          Unfortunately, people over the past few years have confused this phenomena with the real world and think that all link building efforts have to be done on a "consistent" effort.

          That is simply not true. There are plenty of sites in the world that rank fantastically and receive spikes in links all the time with very few links coming in at other times.

          I have never built links consistently and never will. It's a completely stupid idea.
          Thank god someone said it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Slin
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Whatever you do, do not listen to these two. Consistency has nothing to do with building a good link profile. In fact, in most cases, it is just the opposite.

          Link building consistency is a myth started by low quality link builders. They have to consistently be building new backlinks because low quality links tend to disappear almost as fast as you build them. So if you are not "consistently" building new links, you are not gaining any traction.

          Unfortunately, people over the past few years have confused this phenomena with the real world and think that all link building efforts have to be done on a "consistent" effort.

          That is simply not true. There are plenty of sites in the world that rank fantastically and receive spikes in links all the time with very few links coming in at other times.

          I have never built links consistently and never will. It's a completely stupid idea.

          What? Really?

          Look, this is why people end up not having success online, so much conflicting advice.

          Alright, look, I've done a lot of test campaigns, I'm always testing out different SEO things. All of my tests have shown that consistent constant link building wins out in the end.

          Don't believe me? Check out the case studies over at trafficplanet. All of them do constant link building, and get great results.

          Getting spikes in links doesn't hurt your site for sure. But form what i've seen the best results come when you go constant. Google won't find all of your links at the same time anyway.

          But, i've never had a site rank with just setting up a few links and leaving it. My competition is generally building links, so I have to too.

          Look we could argue all day. But my advice will stay the same, just based upon my tests. Constantly building links with varying anchor texts will result in better rankings.

          I guess that's all I'm trying to say obviously your experiences have been different.
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    • Profile picture of the author dalegolden
      Originally Posted by Sandakelum View Post

      I give up building links for SEO, Instead I post quality content hoping for natural links.
      When you will grow big, you will have natural links for sure. If you have already grown big, Congratulation.
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    • Profile picture of the author jordanwarrior
      Originally Posted by Sandakelum View Post

      I give up building links for SEO, Instead I post quality content hoping for natural links.
      Tried that too, but I'm not having the best of luck with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivan84m
    Thanks for your reassurance guys, and sorry for posting this thread in the main IM discussion forum alexa. I'll check well the most appropriate forum for my threat next time
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Yeah this normally happens to sites that are not authority sites with powerful back link but bounce back real quick too.

    On the other side, it could also be as a result of the link you are building, maybe you are not taking the anchor diversity into consideration.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Definitely agree with Mike on this one. I check my top competitors links everyday and my #1 competitor hasn't built a new link in over a month. As far as I can tell that is.

    However, I'm still not sure you can throw a couple of thousand links at a new site, and have google be ok with it. My site was holding on page 2 for a while, and something knocked it off fairly quickly. When I went to investigate my backlinks, I noticed a blog comment I left was reading in my webmasters tool as 1,600 backlinks. Apparently its been stuck in his recent comments widget.

    I'm still not sure what the total affect will be however because my site went from page 2, down to page 13, up to page 9, and now its at 7. So its possible my site is just doing a dance for all I know. But I do know it was very stable prior to getting those 1,600 links.
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  • Profile picture of the author dalegolden
    Build link consistently and pay us consistently. Pure business tactic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cosmit
    Originally Posted by ivan84m View Post

    Hello fellow warriors,

    Have you experienced a massive rank decrease in SERPs (around 90 places) when you suddenly start building backlinks to a site again (after a couple of months of not doing so)?

    I think it has happened before but not sure if rank decreased that much.

    Hoping to hear your advice and comments.
    Nope. But then again, how exactly do you build your backlinks? How many, how often?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    Originally Posted by ivan84m View Post

    Hello fellow warriors,

    Have you experienced a massive rank decrease in SERPs (around 90 places) when you suddenly start building backlinks to a site again (after a couple of months of not doing so)?

    I think it has happened before but not sure if rank decreased that much.

    Hoping to hear your advice and comments.
    No I personally have never experienced this. Google has changed the way it looks at backlinks. It is now looking for relevant backlinks. This is the key. This is why so many domains lost their spots after Google introduced this change.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      What? Really?

      Look, this is why people end up not having success online, so much conflicting advice.

      Alright, look, I've done a lot of test campaigns, I'm always testing out different SEO things. All of my tests have shown that consistent constant link building wins out in the end.

      Don't believe me? Check out the case studies over at trafficplanet. All of them do constant link building, and get great results.

      Getting spikes in links doesn't hurt your site for sure. But form what i've seen the best results come when you go constant. Google won't find all of your links at the same time anyway.

      But, i've never had a site rank with just setting up a few links and leaving it. My competition is generally building links, so I have to too.

      Look we could argue all day. But my advice will stay the same, just based upon my tests. Constantly building links with varying anchor texts will result in better rankings.

      I guess that's all I'm trying to say obviously your experiences have been different.

      Actually, after re-reading your initial comment, my comment was more directed at the other poster.

      Consistently building backlinks and Constantly building backlinks are two different things.

      My comment was directed at the morons who say you should build XX links a day/week/month all the time to look natural or whatever other BS excuse they come up with for it.

      Constantly building backlinks is fine, meaning that you never really stop building and/or attracting links. Your competitors are unlikely to stop, so you cannot either.

      Sorry for the confusion, but in my eyes consistent building and constant building are two different things. Hope that makes sense.
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      • Profile picture of the author Slin
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Actually, after re-reading your initial comment, my comment was more directed at the other poster.

        Consistently building backlinks and Constantly building backlinks are two different things.

        My comment was directed at the morons who say you should build XX links a day/week/month all the time to look natural or whatever other BS excuse they come up with for it.

        Constantly building backlinks is fine, meaning that you never really stop building and/or attracting links. Your competitors are unlikely to stop, so you cannot either.

        Sorry for the confusion, but in my eyes consistent building and constant building are two different things. Hope that makes sense.
        No problem.

        I agree with that. Although honestly I don't know how much it matters if you are building 10 a day, instead of changing it up.

        Google has to find those links anyway, and usually doesn't find them all at once.

        The key? Just keep building backlinks, and watch the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author MonitorScout
    Link Building is not bad, after all this is the way to get recognition in Online community.

    but if you start building links from sites which are considered to spam sites or if they use any unethical means than you may encounter sudden drop in ranking.

    Why don't you use the following means of link building:

    Forums Discussion
    Article creation and submission
    Gust Posting
    Social Bookmarking
    Question + Answering
    Social Media
    Classified Posting
    etc.

    If you follow the above tactics then you don't face with this kind of problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivan84m
    Yea, I'm doing all of them monitorscout, except classified posting. But as you know, backlinking is an arduous process and sometimes I interrupt the flow when I get busy with something else.

    Thanks everyone for your experience-based advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    Sounds like the typical Google dance. Keep building authority links
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Sterbenk
    I've tested this myth with some of my sites. I was busy for a few months, so I haven't build any links. I've then started slow - first, I added some articles, then added some more articles, and then started building my first links (after a week or two). This way, Google can see that there is a reason why new links are coming (new content) and it looks more natural.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaisonjohn
    Its always important to ensure that your offsite activities for the website are a continous process to maintain the keywords positions as well as traffic, it does not mean that once you gain top positions that you stop doing SEO activities then you will again land up in trouble of loosing the traffic as well as rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anoosh Kashefi
    This is totally normal and most all SEO companies will even inform you of this in the event you hire them for their services....

    More importantly, it sounds like you may have created this site, started building some backlinks, and stopped all of a sudden. Try not to do that again. As long as you stay consistent and keep getting high authority, highly related links you will be alright.
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