[Matt Cutts] Major Panda update coming on Friday or Monday

smodha

12 years ago

Prepare yourself for a major episode of pants crapping on WF...

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JSProjects 12 years ago

Originally Posted by smodha

Prepare yourself for a major episode of pants crapping on WF...

Looking forward to every other thread being about how the update destroyed someone's rankings.
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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

Oh oooooh, pack your suitcases while you're still happy I would say!

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freeadstime

12 years ago

We are not sure why search engines are not telling it themselves. Why hurt sites first and then have them to fix their sites. Search engines can tell ahead of time what the problem can be and just site owners to fix the problems and whoever didn't fix it by certain date will be penalized.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by freeadstime

We are not sure why search engines are not telling it themselves. Why hurt sites first and then have them to fix their sites. Search engines can tell ahead of time what the problem can be and just site owners to fix the problems and whoever didn't fix it by certain date will be penalized.

They've been telling you for years what not to do.

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kaytav

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TheProgrammer

Be ready guys the latest Panda is coming to check if you sites are tasty to eat or not?

Source: Google's Matt Cutts On Upcoming Penguin, Panda & Link Networks Updates

Whats your thoughts on this upcoming change?

Your post will definitely give people ideas to post something related. I guess by the time I wake up tomorrow, I will see a lot of posts talking about this stuff.

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boosters

12 years ago

Keep them coming, i am already wear my boxing gloves

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rsto95

12 years ago

This will be interesting. Google better not decide to hurt my sites. I naturally backlinked all my latest sites with blog comments, guest posts, and some forum posts. Plus I would consider all my content researched well and of good quality.

It would be nice if they could remove some of the spam that is showing up on the first few pages for product review searches. All that junk is a few words about the product, a picture, and link to amazon or some other site.

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bgva 12 years ago

Originally Posted by rsto95

Google better not decide to hurt my sites. I naturally backlinked all my latest sites with blog comments, guest posts, and some forum posts.

YOU created those backlinks, so they're not natural. They are artificial.
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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by rsto95

This will be interesting. Google better not decide to hurt my sites. I naturally backlinked all my latest sites with blog comments, guest posts, and some forum posts. Plus I would consider all my content researched well and of good quality.

It would be nice if they could remove some of the spam that is showing up on the first few pages for product review searches. All that junk is a few words about the product, a picture, and link to amazon or some other site.

Lol, aren't you doing the exact same thing as the one's you claim are spam?

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Lol, aren't you doing the exact same thing as the one's you claim are spam?

Imers have hypnotised themselves into believing that blog comments are high quality links

Originally Posted by rsto95

Yukon/BGVA - Our thoughts on backlinks are different obviously. When you do the backlink work yourself on other quality websites, whether it be a forum, blog post, or comment, than that's what I consider a "good backlink."

and thats where you have it all wrong

Originally Posted by rsto95

Anyways, those are just my thoughts. Shouldn't of called the backlinks 'natural' though. I call all good forms of backlinks natural.

Until you own Google it doesn't matter what you think or call them. Google disagrees and couldn't care less.

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rsto95

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Imers have hypnotised themselves into believing that blog comments are high quality links

and thats where you have it all wrong

Do and wish as you say, but it has worked out well for me. Of coarse the BEST form of backlinks come without you doing the work. But if there was a BEST form of backlinking that you could do yourself, than I stated them.

I've watched friends drop from #5 rankings to nearly #100 with link wheels and directory backlinks.

And by the way Mike, I do VERY little blog commenting backlinks. If I am reading on a site about bicycles and my niche is about bikes, than I will maybe leave a comment containing my link.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rsto95

Do and wish as you say, but it has worked out well for me. .

Thats what every link wheel builder. blog comment blaster, link spammer said before the first Penguin. See you in a whine thread sometime in 2013 when you realize that Google doesn't have the technology to determine quality by an algo the same way a human can but it does know certain kind of links are self placed links - so off with their heads

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rsto95

12 years ago

Mike did you listen to what I said?

I'm not a crazy backlinker. To be honest, I build very little backlinks. One of my sites averages nearly 300 views a day from Google and it has only been open three to four months. I have built about 15 backlinks to this website. It's a PR2. I rank on the first page for many of my keywords (mix of short/long tail keywords).

And I have maybe four relevant blog comment backlinks for the site. I don't use any software to build backlinks.

If I'm slapped, than we're all screwed. That will leave just about zip 0 methods of backlinking left.

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cagliostro

12 years ago

Natural and Unnatural. Crapola.

I have build the last 5 years a huge ammount of backlinks using comments for one of my websites. manually.

When the 1st Google update came, i lost a lot of rank from my keywords. But i get so much traffic from the comments backlinks, that i don't care a bit.

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rsto95

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cagliostro

Natural and Unnatural. Crapola.

I have build the last 5 years a huge ammount of backlinks using comments for one of my websites. manually.

When the 1st Google update came, i lost a lot of rank from my keywords. But i get so much traffic from the comments backlinks, that i don't care a bit.

One of the reasons that I began only commenting on relevant blogs and not very often. I find backlinking somewhat overrated, that is unless you're trying to rank for a tough keyword. Most of my sites are aimed at long tail keywords, thus there has been no need for tons of backlinks.

A site I opened in Janurary with an EMD is ranked #1 without a single backlink. Hasn't moved at all. Traffic is slowly making its way up to 400 visits per day. All keywords are long tails though.

And I am done with you Mike. I'm telling you what has worked for me. And that is little to no backlinks, with my main focus being long tails.

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Mike Anthony 12 years ago

Originally Posted by rsto95

. I don't use any software to build backlinks.

If I'm slapped, than we're all screwed. That will leave just about zip 0 methods of backlinking left.

Dude Thats where you are missing it. You think that because you don't use software that means all is ok. This is the real problem here

Google isn't smart enough to know you made those blog comment, blog post, or forum backlinks yourself.

Google doesn't have to be smart enough they only have to discount the non editorial links which THEY KNOW are the blog comments and forum backlinks.

No we are not all screwed. Not all of us use blog comments and forum links to rank. In fact most sites ranking use none of them.
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Petarx

12 years ago

God help us all!

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rsto95

12 years ago

Yukon/BGVA - Our thoughts on backlinks are different obviously. When you do the backlink work yourself on other quality websites, whether it be a forum, blog post, or comment, than that's what I consider a "good backlink."

But when you start to backlink via a link wheel, link network, or directory, I see those links as something Google would eliminate in the future. Google isn't smart enough to know you made those blog comment, blog post, or forum backlinks yourself. But they are smart enough to see a trend when it comes to link wheels, link networks, and directories.

And when I mentioned spam on the first few pages of Google, I mean sites blogspot, wordpress, yahoo, etc. The content on those pages are crap. It's a sales page that has no unique value to it whatsoever. Basically they copy product descriptions from Amazon. Then they would link back to Amazon with their affiliate link.

Anyways, those are just my thoughts. Shouldn't of called the backlinks 'natural' though. I call all good forms of backlinks natural.

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linkbuildr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rsto95

Yukon/BGVA - Our thoughts on backlinks are different obviously. When you do the backlink work yourself on other quality websites, whether it be a forum, blog post, or comment, than that's what I consider a "good backlink."

But when you start to backlink via a link wheel, link network, or directory, I see those links as something Google would eliminate in the future. Google isn't smart enough to know you made those blog comment, blog post, or forum backlinks yourself. But they are smart enough to see a trend when it comes to link wheels, link networks, and directories.

That is spam and has been on the no-no list forever =/

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odesk 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Petarx

God help us all!

I am ready with my King Fu practice.

Yahooooooooooooo.

now see who is best in King Fu, Panda or me
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webby0031

12 years ago

The thread is wrong anyway.

Its not a MAJOR PANDA update, it is just a panda refresh..

The MAJOR update referred to in the link is for a up and coming Penguin update in 2013 sometime.

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howto 12 years ago

Oh deer I just quit my job this month to do IM full time. I sure hope my sites are OK lol :S. I haven't got any links from any link farm networks so hopefully that's all they're targeting.
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Karan Rawat

12 years ago

Guys just Follow @MattCutts He is the web spam Head of Google.

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FakeItTilYouMakeIt

Banned 12 years ago

They are going to blacklist the hacked sites. Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: New first stop for hacked site recovery

That's where this is going

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by FakeItTilYouMakeIt

They are going to blacklist the hacked sites. Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: New first stop for hacked site recovery

That's where this is going

I guess that reconfirms the SAPE links as the current target.

The problem I see with Google going after SAPE links is it's pretty much a moving target If those guys are running churn & burn money sites, as long as they're consistently hacking fresh links. Fresh links + fresh sites = moving target.

For the record, I don't agree/approve of hacking anything.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I guess that reconfirms the SAPE links as the current target.

The problem I see with Google going after SAPE links is it's pretty much a moving target If those guys are running churn & burn money sites, as long as they're consistently hacking fresh links. Fresh links + fresh sites = moving target.

For the record, I don't agree/approve of hacking anything.

I think that is why you are seeing this strategy of promoting protecting your site from being hacked to webmasters.

They won't be able to take out large chunks of the network like they did with BMR, SEO LinkMonster (POS), ALN, etc.

So to start with they do some PR around how webmasters can keep from being hacked and get a talking puppet to put out a big article about how Google is targeting Sape. Good way to scare some people out of using it. Next they'll hit some sites really hard that they can confirm are using it. Completely deindex them. That will get more people talking and make some people completely scared to use Sape or anything like it.

It's a more subtle attack than what they did to the public blog networks last year, but it will probably have some impact.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I think that is why you are seeing this strategy of promoting protecting your site from being hacked to webmasters.

They won't be able to take out large chunks of the network like they did with BMR, SEO LinkMonster (POS), ALN, etc.

So to start with they do some PR around how webmasters can keep from being hacked and get a talking puppet to put out a big article about how Google is targeting Sape. Good way to scare some people out of using it. Next they'll hit some sites really hard that they can confirm are using it. Completely deindex them. That will get more people talking and make some people completely scared to use Sape or anything like it.

It's a more subtle attack than what they did to the public blog networks last year, but it will probably have some impact.

I agree with the Google scare tactics.

The link that FakeItTilYouMakeIt posted above has a link to this page, they talk about viewing the cache & also looking for any code on the theme/html that includes base64. I don't know how old that Google page is, but I've talked about base64 hacks on this forum for over a year now, they're common in free WP theme files from bogus free theme sites, plugins can also include the base64 code. The easiest way to know If a page has been hacked is to look at the Google Cache (text version ) not the full version, the full version doesn't usually show the hacked links. What's messed up about hidden base64 links is, those links don't even show up in the HTML, but they do show up in the Google Cache (text version) where it counts most for the hackers.

Really I wouldn't even call those base64 guys hackers considering the backlinks are built into the WP theme/plugin before they're ever downloaded as a zip file. It's a hack but it's not some guy breaking passwords on an Admin. Maybe they have guys breaking into Admin. accounts (IDK), but I imagine most of those SAPE links are taking the easy route with stuffing the free bogus WP theme/plugins with backlinks (less work, larger link volume).

I also know for a fact that GWT checks the WP version on a blog, I posted that here on WF probably a year ago. I could see a possibility of Google devaluing outdated WP blogs/sites in their algo. A default WP install shows the WP version number in the HTML source code, I removed my WP version number when they sent me a message in GWT.

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theactor19

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I agree with the Google scare tactics.

The link that FakeItTilYouMakeIt posted above has a link to this page, they talk about viewing the cache & also looking for any code on the theme/html that includes base64. I don't know how old that Google page is, but I've talked about base64 hacks on this forum for over a year now, they're common in free WP theme files from bogus free theme sites, plugins can also include the base64 code. The easiest way to know If a page has been hacked is to look at the Google Cache (text version ) not the full version, the full version doesn't usually show the hacked links. What's messed up about hidden base64 links is, those links don't even show up in the HTML, but they do show up in the Google Cache (text version) where it counts most for the hackers.

Really I wouldn't even call those base64 guys hackers considering the backlinks are built into the WP theme/plugin before they're ever downloaded as a zip file. It's a hack but it's not some guy breaking passwords on an Admin. Maybe they have guys breaking into Admin. accounts (IDK), but I imagine most of those SAPE links are taking the easy route with stuffing the free bogus WP theme/plugins with backlinks (less work, larger link volume).

I also know for a fact that GWT checks the WP version on a blog, I posted that here on WF probably a year ago. I could see a possibility of Google devaluing outdated WP blogs/sites in their algo. A default WP install shows the WP version number in the HTML source code, I removed my WP version number when they sent me a message in GWT.

How do i check my wordpress blog if for the base64 links/spam links?

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Mike Anthony 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I think that is why you are seeing this strategy of promoting protecting your site from being hacked to webmasters.

My take on it is quite different. to me they are basicaly saying - Yes we are going to hold the webmaster responsible and yes its going to hurt innocent webmasters - and this is preemptive not as a scare tactic but as a way of saying - look we told you you should take care of this.

So in other words this is their way of handling the fall out when they move on Sape.

I see no reason whatsoever why they can't take down big chunks. They probably have infiltrated as customers and Google could care less if they have to spend even a couple tens of thousands of dollars to send a message that clearly helps them beyond just Sape

Will Sape be able to go on? Probably..... BMR could have gone on by buying new domains. Will it send a solid blow? undoubtedly. Theres no way they do this kind of press on it if they don't have a clear handle on what they will do and that it will work.
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Sprollest

12 years ago

WSO forum is gonna be flooded by self-proclaimed Panda recovery miracle makers. The joy

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FakeItTilYouMakeIt

Banned 12 years ago

I agree with the churn and burn people picking up and moving on but at least in the cell I found there was a looooong list of links that was injected and the links (while mostly spam) weren't all churn and burn sites, there were some surprising exceptions. Brick and mortar small businesses. Regional franchise service company. Could get interesting. It will be funnier to see the reaction of the hacked sites. Will Google blacklist PBS? Discovery education? Reuters blog?

*happy dance*

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supereek

12 years ago

nobody can say anything for sure before the actual update comes.
just continue doing what you are doing. that is all.

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DPM70

12 years ago

It's about time that webmasters woke up to this. I can't believe so many websites have been hacked by this network or by other means. Google is actually doing us all a favour. 3 cheers for Google...Hip Hip .....

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CyberAlien

12 years ago

I love these updates by Google, it runs all these newbies with "guaranteed first page" listings out of business

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12 years ago

Ay yay yay!

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DPM70

12 years ago

By the way, how are these SAPE sites getting hacked? This is more than a base64 hack, right?

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yukon Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by DPM70

By the way, how are these SAPE sites getting hacked? This is more than a base64 hack, right?

I'm sure it's more than base64 hacks on WP themes, still I imagine the base64 hacks is a large part of the hacked links, it's dirt simple, find a free theme, base64 the links, create a bogus theme download site, sit back & watch the link numbers increase from all the downloads.

BTW, those base64 links are sometimes hard to find If you've never had to deal with them, the links I've seen only show on the cache text version, not in the HTML source code on the live web page, but the links will still be inside the WP theme.

The hacked themes usually have the base64 split up so one part of the code is calling a 2nd part of the code, If you don't remove all of the base64 code at the same time it can lock up your WP Admin (locked out of your own site Admin.), the only way back in is FTP or Cpanel. Been there, done that, lol.

The easiest way to deal with a hacked base64 WP theme is simply switch back to the default WP theme, then delete the hacked theme. Don't try to make any code edits on the live theme because you'll risk locking up the entire site (headache).
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DPM70

12 years ago

Will Sape be able to go on? Probably..... BMR could have gone on by buying new domains. Will it send a solid blow? undoubtedly. Theres no way they do this kind of press on it if they don't have a clear handle on what they will do and that it will work.

Agree with this - it's way obvious that they're gonna crack down and the naysayers will look silly this time next week. I don't think they'll care, though. The guys selling the links will find something new and the suckers will buy it up. It's like BSG - History will keep repeating ad infinitum.

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DPM70

12 years ago

BTW, those base64 links are sometimes hard to find If you've never had to deal with them

Indeed, they're tricksy little buggers and I thank you for your diligence and help in outing them and how to despatch them in your posts here.

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Cash37

12 years ago

Cant wait for this, hopefully I benefit

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legoog8 12 years ago

well i have nothing to worry about anyway.

Bring it on...
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mdoolan

12 years ago

I'm pretty sure, this update will affect far less sites than those previous Panda & Penguin updates

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by mdoolan

I'm pretty sure, this update will affect far less sites than those previous Panda & Penguin updates

Supposedly WP powers around +14% of the blogs on the net, the majority of those WP installs are most likely running free WP themes & are technically challenged (lol). That makes a huge number of sites/blogs an easy target for base64 hacked themes which is probably only a fraction of the links Google is targeting.

I have a feeling Google might penalize the thousands/millions of sites that are unknowingly supplying the SAPE links considering the Google links above on how to clean up a hacked site. It's not too difficult to find footprints (WP + viagra header/footer links (lol)).

I'm not trying to add to the Google scare, just saying check the site before the $hit hits the fan. If Google devalues a hacked site/page it might not be so easy to recover a ranked SERP position.

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I'm not trying to add to the Google scare, just saying check the site before the hits the fan. If Google devalues a hacked site/page it might not be so easy to recover a ranked SERP position.

Yeah, you will probably have to clean up the site, file a reconsideration request, and then wait 4-6 weeks.

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legoog8

12 years ago

file a reconsideration request, and then wait 4-6 weeks.

woah google does like making problems for itself if millions of people did that then......... but also evidence that google relies mainly on manual reviewers and all that a inefficient business model for google considering there are 1000000000000000000 webpages out there... I would sack the head of google spam.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by legoog8

woah google does like making problems for itself if millions of people did that then......... but also evidence that google relies mainly on manual reviewers and all that a inefficient business model for google considering there are 1000000000000000000 webpages out there... I would sack the head of google spam.

If Google can automate finding a problem on a site (algo.), I'm sure they can automate verifying the problem was fixed on the same site.

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dmtaylor247 12 years ago

A blackhat's dream come true

Wipe all the marketers out and leave the easy pickings, blackhat seo has never been easier...
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- Mike Anthony 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by dmtaylor247
  
  A blackhat's dream come true
  
  Wipe all the marketers out and leave the easy pickings, blackhat seo has never been easier...
  
  Thats called living in denial. Visit blackhatter's forums after an update and they are whining like babies same as everyone else.
  
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  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  Thats called living in denial. Visit blackhatter's forums after an update and they are whining like babies same as everyone else.
  
  Speak for yourself!
  
  Any other self proclaimed guru's here then keep crapping it and telling the wannabes what they want to hear...
  
  The truth is the SERPS are nothing like they were 2 years ago, if Google slaps a site down, then have another one G2G in 10 minutes... Happy days!
  
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Jimerson Farveez

12 years ago

Do you guys think web 2.0 and syndication of web 2.0 blogs still rock even after panda?

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legoog8

12 years ago

If Google can automate finding a problem on a site (algo.), I'm sure they can automate verifying the problem was fixed on the same site.

what about another hacking problem after that and then after that one and then the next one after that?

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RedShifted

12 years ago

Quick note. When my other site got hit by the base64 viagra / payday links, I didn't submit a reconsideration.

The process for me was -

Tried to remove it once and it failed (when I thought I succeeded lol).
Tried to remove it again and succeeded.

Then my rankings came back about 3 weeks later.
The interesting thing about this, that site wound up moving into the top 3 once I removed all those garbage link (its still there, allcountywaterproofing).

So if you use a free theme, or don't scan your plugins, you may want to check your cache just to be safe. Those links will really hurt your rankings.

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Alexgw

12 years ago

We cannot say the content on all blogspot, wordpress platform sites are crappy. Many good authentic blogs on WordPress and blogspot platform are available. Though we can find many many crappy sites too..

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dmtaylor247

12 years ago

In 2010 every man and his internet marketing dog owned a website, now there are none left. SERPS that could make $2000 a month are dead easy to the well versed blackhat.

Marketers that couldn't adapt have just thrown in the towel, the ones who did found new ways of making their time more cost effective.

Unfortunately this means more low quality for Google. If they spend all of their time punishing bad behaviour and not thinking of new ways to reward good behaviour then all they will get is crap.

Until Cutts and his team can guarantee white hat sites won't get gunned down in the chaos, then I'm blackhat all the way and the updates don't change a thing. It's just whack a mole for Matt Cutts.

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dcary13

12 years ago

Originally Posted by dmtaylor247

In 2010 every man and his internet marketing dog owned a website, now there are none left. SERPS that could make $2000 a month are dead easy to the well versed blackhat.

Marketers that couldn't adapt have just thrown in the towel, the ones who did found new ways of making their time more cost effective.

Unfortunately this means more low quality for Google. If they spend all of their time punishing bad behaviour and not thinking of new ways to reward good behaviour then all they will get is crap.

You wrote it itself: "and his internet marketing dog owned a website"...

You are wrong in the way that the websites of the IMs and his dogs was better as the BH spamers ones. They was shit too.

And they was never white hat, they was stupid grey and black hat, brushed over in dirty white.

Look at this forum and the threads and you will see all over the place the people here claiming they are "white hat" and "good content".

And in the next thread they ask for buying links, how xrumer works and whats the best content spinner is. White hat for the arse, i say.

The ranking are fine now! Because the hard working (aka the real spamers) are now ranked instead of the crap IMs here knowing nothing about anything but expecting to make big money.

As more IMs leave the internet and going back where they come from (cleaning toilets, dumbing nuclear wastes, selling drugs...) as better.

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paulgl

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TheProgrammer

Whats your thoughts on this upcoming change?

....yawn...

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Chuchab

12 years ago

im waiting this updatre for long tiiiiime

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TheProgrammer

12 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

....yawn...

Paul

LOL, Genius gurus like you dont care about any upcoming disaster, because they trust much on their protections.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey

I'm genuinely concerned about legit sites being whacked.

I have a lot invested in Media buys right now from sites ranking in Google.

In the last update, I lost a fair amount of money due to the traffic to the sites I had active buys on losing significant traffic.

So ever since the last update I switched to Second Tier Media Buys, but the last couple of months I was offered a very nice contract on a few High Traffic sites ranking in G so I bought in.

I'm concerned those sites could get whacked out and I get done again.

That would be a kick in the pants for me. :/

So go check the Google cache (text version) of the pages that are sending you traffic. If they have viagra, payday, etc.. junk links in the header/footer of the web page, send them a note, get it fixed.

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stubo1903

12 years ago

Google Panda Update To Start Being A Rolling Update

Panda's becoming a rolling update. Shame, the panda devastation threads were always a good laugh

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drewfioravanti

12 years ago

lolGoogle.

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roberthughes

12 years ago

My thoughts are very positive:

1) More rubbish spammers will be thrown off
2) Gives smaller SEO re-sellers a better chance to find new business due to the shake up

Only negative is the extra work it takes to adjust peoples backlink profile. But with the right resources this is never a problem!

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cpa-money

12 years ago

i really dont care about it, every time google make a move they destroying the little man`s cash follow which helped them to grow bigger (when he added adsense to his site).

so after the first panda update i started to leave google as the major traffic source, and now i dont care what they are going to do, they can not affect my sites anymore.

so come on and create your zoo updates as much as you want and call it panda, penguin or whatever.

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dcary13

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cpa-money

i really dont care about it, every time google make a move they destroying the little man`s cash follow which helped them to grow bigger (when he added adsense to his site).

so after the first panda update i started to leave google as the major traffic source, and now i dont care what they are going to do, they can not affect my sites anymore.

So, you "leave" google?
How you can leave something you can't enter?

And how they can effect your sites? Beside not to rank you what
you already did when you deindexed yourself?

I must li3fe in a parallell universe.

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RedShifted

12 years ago

You have to go to your code editor in wordpress, then use control + f and search for it manually. Or that was the way I did it.

I'd click on every page and would click "next" to see if I had it. However, I didn't find it in my theme but my plugins, so you need to check your plugins too.

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theactor19

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

You have to go to your code editor in wordpress, then use control + f and search for it manually. Or that was the way I did it.

I'd click on every page and would click "next" to see if I had it. However, I didn't find it in my theme but my plugins, so you need to check your plugins too.

I checked the header and footer files, and didn't see anything..

What exactly do you put in the search when you do control+f?

My plugins have a ton of files.. are there specific files I should be looking in for each plugin, or look at every file within each plugin?

thanks!

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theactor19

12 years ago

Originally Posted by theactor19

I checked the header and footer files, and didn't see anything..

What exactly do you put in the search when you do control+f?

My plugins have a ton of files.. are there specific files I should be looking in for each plugin, or look at every file within each plugin?

thanks!

Anybody able to answer my last question?

thanks

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xMizzlex

12 years ago

Originally Posted by theactor19

I checked the header and footer files, and didn't see anything..

What exactly do you put in the search when you do control+f?

My plugins have a ton of files.. are there specific files I should be looking in for each plugin, or look at every file within each plugin?

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Check the options folder of admin options. Also... FTP in and search "http://" in each theme file.

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CyberAlien

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

You have to go to your code editor in wordpress, then use control + f and search for it manually. Or that was the way I did it.

I'd click on every page and would click "next" to see if I had it. However, I didn't find it in my theme but my plugins, so you need to check your plugins too.

A faster and more reliable way would be to download all your files and database to your computer. Then use Notepad++ to mass search all of them for any malicious code.

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shahbaz94us

12 years ago

F**K PANDA AND MATT CUTTS! I GOT HIT IN MY FACE!

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Wes888

12 years ago

Is it already updating?? I don't see any changes lol

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12 years ago

Google panda update 15-03-2013, announces by matt Google Web spam team leader.
I lost my keyword ranking in Google co.in after 15/3/2013. it is major impact of billions of sites

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OneManSEO

12 years ago

I work for a Web Design company doing SEO for their clients. I've been hoping for a Panda refresh for two months! Why? Because my employer left a development website up and indexed by Google, then suddenly in January our clients rankings tanked all over the place.

The only thing that it could be is the exact same website being online under our subdomain. Now that was an uncomfortable client conversation....I can't wait to check rankings on Monday! lol

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adlol

12 years ago

Originally Posted by OneManSEO

I work for a Web Design company doing SEO for their clients. I've been hoping for a Panda refresh for two months! Why? Because my employer left a development website up and indexed by Google, then suddenly in January our clients rankings tanked all over the place.

The only thing that it could be is the exact same website being online under our subdomain. Now that was an uncomfortable client conversation....I can't wait to check rankings on Monday! lol

Why not just 301 redirect the development page to the main site?

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OneManSEO

12 years ago

Originally Posted by adlol

Why not just 301 redirect the development page to the main site?

We did, but the penalty only seems to get lifted when another refresh is made. I'm just glad it was only 2 months and not 6...

Reconsideration Requests are worthless....by the way.

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adlol

12 years ago

Originally Posted by OneManSEO

We did, but the penalty only seems to get lifted when another refresh is made. I'm just glad it was only 2 months and not 6...

Reconsideration Requests are worthless....by the way.

You could have forced the refresh much sooner by building a couple of back links to the development page. Within days it would have refreshed.

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OneManSEO 12 years ago

Originally Posted by adlol

You could have forced the refresh much sooner by building a couple of back links to the development page. Within days it would have refreshed.

Hmmm, I did not know that. I've never had to repair a Panda drop, so if what you say is indeed true then F.M.L. lol
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norhisham

12 years ago

Woo.. another reason to immediately revise our main source of traffic and ways to improve no. of returned visitors to our site. Seriously, SEO is getting trickier every year.

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OneManSEO

12 years ago

So this SAPE links place got burn...never heard of them. What do you think will be the next link network that is going down? Google said in a few weeks...I just wonder which one might be the biggest fish.

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majestic12

12 years ago

Anyone notice any changes yet? nothing seems to have changed here in the UK { that I can see }...

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Jean Morgan 12 years ago

Originally Posted by majestic12

Anyone notice any changes yet? nothing seems to have changed here in the UK { that I can see }...

I started seeing big changes on my .co.uk site on Friday, this has continued all weekend but has slowed to a trickle today. Rankings have stabilised for sure at this moment, not seeing much change up or down today.

I'm doing the happy dance as my traffic doubled yesterday and can only be from those new rankings.
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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

I was wondering that too, I`ve had a look at my rankings and they have dropped alittle from last week but thats nothing to go on these days my rankings are moving about all the time i never nail a position down for months on end these days anyway.

But yes some of my pages have dropped but nothing major

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

It's Monday today right? Haven't noticed anything tbh, maybe it still has to come?

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Really i mean really all that worry lol ! There hasnt been a flippin panda update has there no way on earth would the WF not have just afew little threads from folks who`d been affected and theres nothing lol

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majestic12

12 years ago

We have been watching and checking about 60 sites since this morning UK time, so far nothing has happened. The same goes for our U.S sites which are running behind due to the time difference.

Either no update has occurred or we have done nothing bad lol.. { or sheer good luck }

You are 100% correct regarding the lack of forum activity, if you ignore threads talking about the impending doom { such as this thread }, I would rate the damage news at a big fat zero "so far"....

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Really i mean really all that worry lol ! There hasnt been a flippin panda update has there no way on earth would the WF not have just afew little threads from folks who`d been affected and theres nothing lol

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jimkirk1943 12 years ago

Either no update has occurred or we have done nothing bad lol.. { or sheer good luck }

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Billy Rey

12 years ago

I saw a lot of ups and downs but nothing really major. It's just like most panda updates.

It's great that they are integrating panda to the algorithm. There will be more weird news of clean sites being whacked all of a sudden

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lhkorn99

12 years ago

No more Panda announcements from Google - No More Confirmations Of Google Panda Updates

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FakeItTilYouMakeIt

Banned 12 years ago

Arggggh I got nothin

I know it's probably not nice of me to hope another site crashes and burns but I had my fingers and toes crossed that Google was going to spank my naughty competitor for his naughty Russian links but nooooo. Oh well. I'll just keep on fighting that good fight and getting the hacked sites to take them off. I mean links from Reuters gimme a break ughhhh