Building Links With LSI Keywords Another Way To Get Penalized Later...

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Since the Penguin update everyone has been talking about link diversity and I've noticed this new trend towards LSI Keywords. What I've also noticed is many people saying to get theses Keywords from Google's own "related searches". To me this seems like about the worst way to diversify your links.
  1. It uses an easy to recognize pattern.
  2. Google can easily see who is using the pattern because it's based off of their own related searches.
  3. A large percentage of webmasters are employing the same technique.
Don't people see that it will only be matter of time before a new penalty will hit these links as well?
#building #keywords #links #lsi #penalized
  • Profile picture of the author theseoproz
    Agreed. I link to use my money keyword 20% of the time and a few variations of it about 10-15% of the time. The majority of my links use naked URLs and Branded keywords to link back to my site.

    The mistake so many people are making is relying solely on anchor text to rank for a single keyword when you could focus on building your domain authority and rank for several LSI terms without directly optimizing them or with just a few links.
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  • Profile picture of the author indiana jones
    Don't want to agree. LSI is closer to diversification than to single keyword. But the question remains - if LSI generated automatically, will Google easy detect it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by UnkwnUsr View Post

    Since the Penguin update everyone has been talking about link diversity
    Noooooooo, not so much.

    Not "everyone".

    People selling backlinks (and some of those gullible enough to be influenced by them) have been talking about it. Nobody else cares. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Noooooooo, not so much.

      Not "everyone".

      People selling backlinks (and some of those gullible enough to be influenced by them) have been talking about it. Nobody else cares. :p

      Can somebody tell me why Alexa continues to comment on SEO and what goes on in the industry when she has no clue about it and doesn't even like SEO? Diversity is NOT just a backlink seller item of interest.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by UnkwnUsr View Post

    What I've also noticed is many people saying to get theses Keywords from Google's own "related searches". To me this seems like about the worst way to diversify your links.
    Op i haven't heard that very often and I myself would not use that but sometimes people over think things and think Google gets into all kinds of things they cannot be bothered with. LSI is based on human language so frankly even natural links are going to have LSI keywords. It would be extremely iffy if Google penalized that
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    • Profile picture of the author UnkwnUsr
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Op i haven't heard that very often and I myself would not use that but sometimes people over think things and think Google gets into all kinds of things they cannot be bothered with. LSI is based on human language so frankly even natural links are going to have LSI keywords. It would be extremely iffy if Google penalized that
      That's true I guess it would be accurate to say that Google may penalized people who repeatedly copy and paste from related searches. I just put the two together because most people promoting LSI Keywords are also saying to get them from Google (or a software that uses Google to generate them). Seems like a bad idea that Google will see right through eventually.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    If your going to be paranoid about keyword anchor-text on backlinks then use all the incoming search phrases that real people are searching for when they land on your site/s pages.

    I'm looking at one of my smaller sites that has over 2,500 variations of my root keyword, I've been tracking the incoming search phrases with STT2. I only use the plugin on the WP Admin & I modified the plugin source code to collect 2,500 of my latest incoming search phrases.

    If your tracking incoming search phrases that real traffic is searching for, you already have more than enough keyword variation to work with. The older the site, the more incoming search phrases you'll have.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    I'm gonna spam it to 99% varied.
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    • Profile picture of the author UnkwnUsr
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      I'm gonna spam it to 99% varied.
      That's the right attitude but remember it's not spam, it's tier 2 automated backlink building.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by UnkwnUsr View Post

        That's the right attitude but remember it's not spam, it's tier 2 automated backlink building.
        For me personally it's kinda like.

        Google have been running round slapping a lot of hard working webmasters by making a lot of tweaks here and there. No matter if you where choosing to wear whatever hat.

        They have people running round spending shitbombs of money trying to create this elusive quality content..blah blah bs.

        So you bet your ass if I'm dropping $2k a month on articles, I'm going after those damn LSI. And my LSI's, LSI too.

        It's called ROI on yo LSI

        I'm paying 2 guys $60 a page for a 40 page site. Whatever happened to $7 per 1000 words?
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  • Profile picture of the author vk3
    Kevin... even though your ramblings get crazy and are usually like a whale combined with a shark wearing sun glasses w/o sun screen, I'm definitely with you - black, white, blue or orange hat, a lot of clean "innocents" got taken out during all of these most recent G updates... aka, people doing everything that "used to" be "right".

    Yet, it always goes back to fundamentals... research, test, track, find what works, repeat... win!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by vk3 View Post

      Kevin... even though your ramblings get crazy and are usually like a whale combined with a shark wearing sun glasses w/o sun screen, I'm definitely with you - black, white, blue or orange hat, a lot of clean "innocents" got taken out during all of these most recent G updates... aka, people doing everything that "used to" be "right".

      Yet, it always goes back to fundamentals... research, test, track, find what works, repeat... win!
      Writers emptying my pockets is what it is. I'm in the wrong business. Sales copy writing is where it's at.

      They both laughed together at my current content.
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    Originally Posted by UnkwnUsr View Post

    Since the Penguin update everyone has been talking about link diversity and I've noticed this new trend towards LSI Keywords. What I've also noticed is many people saying to get theses Keywords from Google's own "related searches". To me this seems like about the worst way to diversify your links.
    1. It uses an easy to recognize pattern.
    2. Google can easily see who is using the pattern because it's based off of their own related searches.
    3. A large percentage of webmasters are employing the same technique.
    Don't people see that it will only be matter of time before a new penalty will hit these links as well?
    You can either create your own high PR blog network and rank your websites or either can use softwares and maintain link diversity. Link Diversity and Link Velocity if maintained properly shall help in ranks..

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