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[Help]Copying Content from Old Site to New Site

by murtagh
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Hey Warriors,

I have an old website that I believe is under some sort of a Google penalty. It was a personal IM blog with good, unique content that was doing pretty well until I (in my stupidity) blasted it with some mass article directory links and reduced my organic traffic to 0

My question is:

1) Is it ok if I buy a new domain and copy all the old content to the new blog and then delete the old site

I don't want to do a 301 re-direct because I feel the penalty may transfer over to the new site.
#content #helpcopying #site
  • Profile picture of the author nitesh
    I think you are right, 301 redirect will transfer penalty also. Register a new domain and copy your content from old site to new site. You can also try removing all the unnatural links in your old site that you might have generated in traffic blast. I hope this answers your question.
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  • Profile picture of the author alan01
    The thing is that if you do that, the content will most likely show up as duplicate content. What I'd recommend to do is copy all the content onto your hard drive, delete the old site, check one of the article's uniqueness on Copyscpae every few days till it shows that the content is unique (85-90% unique), then publish the content on your new site.
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    • Profile picture of the author murtagh
      Originally Posted by alan01 View Post

      The thing is that if you do that, the content will most likely show up as duplicate content. What I'd recommend to do is copy all the content onto your hard drive, delete the old site, check one of the article's uniqueness on Copyscpae every few days till it shows that the content is unique (85-90% unique), then publish the content on your new site.
      This is another thing I'm not so sure about. With my limited experience so far, I can day that duplicate content is only an issue if the content is on the same domain. Multiple News sites have the same content but they don't get penalized, do they?

      That said, Google is smart enough to know (at least that's what I think) which site the content appeared on 1st and it credits the content to that site but in no way does it penalize other sites for having the same content.

      Please correct me if I'm wrong?
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by murtagh View Post

        That said, Google is smart enough to know (at least that's what I think) which site the content appeared on 1st and it credits the content to that site but in no way does it penalize other sites for having the same content.

        Please correct me if I'm wrong?
        It won't help you when a brand new domain only features "copied" content, might get damn nasty to get that ranked so you must get it deindexed first using the WMT URL removal tool

        You can't compare that to authority sites that are established for a long time already.
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        • Profile picture of the author murtagh
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          It won't help you when a brand new domain only features "copied" content, might get damn nasty to get that ranked so you must get it deindexed first using the WMT URL removal tool

          You can't compare that to authority sites that are established for a long time already.
          Yes, that makes sense. My old domain (the penalized one) is expiring in another 30 days. Will it help if I let it expire (don't renew the domain) and then use the old content on the new site?

          Any idea how quickly SE's de-index content on expired domains?
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by murtagh View Post

            Yes, that makes sense. My old domain (the penalized one) is expiring in another 30 days. Will it help if I let it expire (don't renew the domain) and then use the old content on the new site?

            Any idea how quickly SE's de-index content on expired domains?
            Sign up for Google Webmasterd,verify it.

            Use their URL removal tool and manually enter the root url and category url's.

            This should help to get the site and all the posts under it get deindexed fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bexxi
    I want to do something like this myself, and I agree with alan. I read a whole guide about how to do this correctly a long time ago, but I didn't bookmark it, and can't remember it! Sorry!

    I think you can ask in webmasters tools (if you use), for webpages to be removed from the index. And then you wait until the content cannot be found on google, before posting to your new site.

    So, first save all the content on your computer, remove pages from index if possible, delete the site, check google or copyscape or plagiarising tools till your content cannot be found, then make the new site, with the content. Plus, I would write new additional articles also for your site, just in case. Hope this helps, I am no expert.
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  • Profile picture of the author klogo
    I'm in support of the last commenter. Content duplication is a serious issue with google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Annie15
    I don't want to do a 301 re-direct because I feel the penalty may transfer over to the new site.
    Then why are you trying to copy the old content to your new site?
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  • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
    copywrite the content to a new domain. Don't just copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Penalties don't pass over if you want to 301 the old links. But if it was the links that got you screwed by Google then I don't see why you want to carry that toxic baggage with you.

    To move the site is fairly straight forward, just move the sites DB and route the config to the new domain. Delete the old site and your pretty much done.
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    If the sites plugged in WMT you can move to have them de-index the old content. (Remove URLs). To help speed things up.
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    • Profile picture of the author murtagh
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      Penalties don't pass over if you want to 301 the old links. But if it was the links that got you screwed by Google then I don't see why you want to carry that toxic baggage with you.

      To move the site is fairly straight forward, just move the sites DB and route the config to the new domain. Delete the old site and your pretty much done.
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      Move WordPress to a New Domain - Easy Site Migration - Yoast

      If the sites plugged in WMT you can move to have them de-index the old content. (Remove URLs). To help speed things up.
      Yes, that's what I'm worried about because even if one of those bad links pass over, then it's back to square one
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Does this simple trick still work? I always had the idea that Google would do something against it sooner then later. It doesn't take much for them to figure out what's going on.
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    It still works. I got caught slipping and let one of my domains expire, tried to pick it up at auction but got outbid by proxy at the last second. Registered a new domain, edited the old DB to reflect it and it's as good as new (literally). Had to linkbuild all over again but the content is indexed and rankings are slowly improving. Some have even made it past their previous poitions (which makes me wonder). Just make sure none of the content is indexed on the old domain before you make the new site live.
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