Destroyed by Google, need help!

by chg
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Well I guess the time has come, I need some help in figuring out what happened and how to fix it.

Long story short... I contracted someone to extract data from every local, state, and federal jurisdiction to build a database of people's arrest records. The data in these records includes names, date of arrest, jurisdiction, and the mugshot from the arrest.

It was growing from 20% - 100% in traffic day after day. Once it hit about 3,200 unique views a day, it leveled off. After 3 days at 3,000 unique visitors, it tanked completely. It is now down to under 100 a day.

I have concluded that the site and all indexed pages were added into the "Omitted search results". My question is... How the heck do I get it out of that section so it can get traffic back?!

This site peaked at $200/day, and is now down to under $1. Help!!
#destroyed #google
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Originally Posted by chg View Post

    Well I guess the time has come, I need some help in figuring out what happened and how to fix it.

    Long story short... I contracted someone to extract data from every local, state, and federal jurisdiction to build a database of people's arrest records. The data in these records includes names, date of arrest, jurisdiction, and the mugshot from the arrest.

    It was growing from 20% - 100% in traffic day after day. Once it hit about 3,200 unique views a day, it leveled off. After 3 days at 3,000 unique visitors, it tanked completely. It is now down to under 100 a day.

    I have concluded that the site and all indexed pages were added into the "Omitted search results". My question is... How the heck do I get it out of that section so it can get traffic back?!

    This site peaked at $200/day, and is now down to under $1. Help!!
    So you built a site and lots of people just appeared out of nowhere, and then disappeared again without a trace?
    It could be the case that you where publishing mugshots of kidnappers and they abducted your audience. Some of the bank robbers maybe are holding them up somewhere for ransom, so maybe charge your cell phone and wait for the call.
    Or give us more detail as to what you did to get those visitors in the first place.
    Or just call the Milk carton company and tell them you have a mass missing persons request.
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  • Profile picture of the author linkbuildr
    Duplicate content, isn't that obvious? There are tons of sites with this data already so you need to add other value to those pages. Mashing in related social media and getting users to interact with the pages will also help a bit.

    IF you have a lousy link profile with no authority you don't stand much of a chance either.
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  • Profile picture of the author chg
    Would displaying related articles on the pages and have active social widgets allow for a change in status? Or is that not enough?
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    You're bound to get a lot of hate doing that. A friend of mines had a dui case dismissed but the site refused to remove his info. Ranked #1 for his name too. Nothing a bit of reputation management and negative SEO couldn't solve though. I feel like a god sometimes. Good luck profiting on other people's misfortunes.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Wow, at least a unique and interesting topic for a change.

      If you know, have you looked to find them?

      If you find them, look close at what appears in google.
      Is the title, description, etc. the same, and basically the
      same as other similar sites, and across the board on
      your site?

      You might need to change the site up a bit, make sure each
      page generated gets somewhat of a unique title, if possible.

      Certainly you might have to hire a programmer to present the
      results in a truly unique way, that actually serves a purpose.

      If not, you may be stuck. Google does not want to show 100
      sites that offer the same exact thing, or at least look to
      them like they do.

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author chg
    I have a feature set up for removal requests with a $9.99 admin fee. We won't remove sex offenders or violent criminals unless we are provided proof of exoneration. That's not the purpose of the site though, it's strictly to bring in Adsense revenue - which it was, in a huge way.

    I have worked out a solution though! Simply put, we are going to pull feed data from news sources in the local jurisdictions for the arrests (all arrests are public in the paper), so that should added enough content (related content) to keep off that omitted results filter.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      I knew that too! Dang it, slipped my mind.

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    • Profile picture of the author dennis09
      Extortion lol. Never thought about it that way but thats pretty much what it is. Sites ranking horrible sh*t for people's names and then charging $$$ for removal. Not to mention you get the adsense revenue. I understand it's already public information but that doesn't give someone the right to mass ruin peoples reputation for a quick buck. Not to mention you now have to give up your private info (court docs) to hundreds of noname and untrustworthy webmasters.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      If this part (below) is true I don't want anything to do with this thread.

      These mugshot web sites pick up arrest details and photographs from government web sites. They then use that data to create landing pages that rank well in the search engines, like Google. When the person searches for their own name and sees this result come up, they are likely to pay to remove it. The web sites charge anywhere between $30 to $400 to remove the page and there are multiple sites they need to pay to remove this content.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        If this part (below) is true I don't want anything to do with this thread.
        You already paid your $400 already. Dont worry no one is going to tell anyone about what happened.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          You already paid your $400 already. Dont worry no one is going to tell anyone about what happened.
          Nope,

          I would simply blast the H out of my name with Youtube videos & other off the wall pages to junk up the SERPs about 10 pages deep.

          Someone with the same name from the same town would win the lottery, win the Nobel Peace Prize, run for governor, selling kittens, etc...
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          • Profile picture of the author dennis09
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            Nope,

            I would simply blast the H out of my name with Youtube videos & other off the wall pages to junk up the SERPs about 10 pages deep.

            Someone with the same name from the same town would win the lottery, win the Nobel Peace Prize, run for governor, selling kittens, etc...
            Exactly. Better yet, imagine if there were suddenly 500 yukons on the WF.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          You already paid your $400 already. Dont worry no one is going to tell anyone about what happened.
          ROTFLMAO!!!

          Thing is, it's a bogus fee. That's what google apparently dislikes.

          Since you can't take your record down from public records, stopping
          a third party site from showing it is a ripoff and serves no purpose.

          Maybe the solution is to commit your crimes while still a juvenile...
          then get them sealed.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by chg View Post

    Well I guess the time has come, I need some help in figuring out what happened and how to fix it.

    Long story short... I contracted someone to extract data from every local, state, and federal jurisdiction to build a database of people's arrest records. The data in these records includes names, date of arrest, jurisdiction, and the mugshot from the arrest.

    It was growing from 20% - 100% in traffic day after day. Once it hit about 3,200 unique views a day, it leveled off. After 3 days at 3,000 unique visitors, it tanked completely. It is now down to under 100 a day.

    I have concluded that the site and all indexed pages were added into the "Omitted search results". My question is... How the heck do I get it out of that section so it can get traffic back?!

    This site peaked at $200/day, and is now down to under $1. Help!!
    It's the same content found on hundreds of other sites/pages that you don't own. Your buried in Supplemental SERPs (duplicate content).

    Google tries to filter out duplicate pages, it doesn't always work but as you can see it works for the most part.

    I imagine you scraped page titles from another site, If so, that's the first thing I would change. Next, you need better SEO than the other hundred sites (or however many) that have the same content.

    You could also add additional content to each page that the other public data sites don't have to help differentiate your pages from the rest of the pack (competition), that's up to you to figure out what that extra content would be.
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  • Profile picture of the author FranksToys
    Glad people like you had their websites crushed by GOogle.

    Making money off of other people's criminal record is asking for it, just be thankful that Google shut you down before someone else did.

    Instead of benefiting off of others misfortune or bad decision making why dont you go produce something of value. If you even can, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author chg
    We are all here because we are internet marketers. Honestly, this one site (out of the 1,100 that I own) is the only one that has experienced a growth rate like this. It went from $0/day to $200/day in a matter of 13 days. The traffic is coming back now, after making some minor tweaks and inserting some extras into the pages.

    The point is... This isn't capitalizing on misfortune and bad luck. If someone got arrested, they weren't unlucky - this did something illegal. Whether or not they were proven guilty, incarcerated, etc - that's up to the courts. I simply take the person's name and picture, and put it on a website. My employee who runs the site is only paid when removals are paid for, hence the admin fee. Otherwise, that employee won't make money.

    So, if you want to call it extortion, fine - call it that. But that couldn't be further from what it is. It just so happens that my employee is someone who needed a 2nd chance. Hopefully she isn't the only one I will be able to hire to work on this project.
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    • Profile picture of the author dennis09
      Originally Posted by chg View Post

      We are all here because we are internet marketers.
      I actually cringe when I hear that term. Internet marketers have a bad reputation largely because of schemes like this one. Doesn't matter who you screw over or step on as long as you make a quick buck right? The people I network with would be embarrassed to call themselves Internet Marketers in public.

      Originally Posted by chg View Post

      The point is... This isn't capitalizing on misfortune and bad luck. If someone got arrested, they weren't unlucky - this did something illegal. Whether or not they were proven guilty, incarcerated, etc - that's up to the courts. I simply take the person's name and picture, and put it on a website.
      Did you know that in some states it's illegal to collect rainwater?
      Or that growing a garden on your property is considered illegal?
      And that some people are accused/arrested of things but then proven innocent???

      God forbid you ever end up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

      Originally Posted by chg View Post

      It just so happens that my employee is someone who needed a 2nd chance. Hopefully she isn't the only one I will be able to hire to work on this project.
      Oh how nice of you :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author danparks
        Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

        Did you know that in some states it's illegal to collect rainwater?
        Or that growing a garden on your property is considered illegal?
        And that some people are accused/arrested of things but then proven innocent???

        God forbid you ever end up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
        All very true. I have a neighbor that was handcuffed, arrested, mugshot, fingerprints, etc. For an unpaid traffic ticket (failure to pay, or appear in court, results in a warrant for arrest). Happens all the time. Read about one person in a nearby town that was arrested for overdue book at the library (real newspaper story, not urban legend). Happens all the time.

        Clumping together everyone who's ever been arrested (and not even necessarily been found guilty) and dismissing it as all pretty much the same (bad judgment) really is sh*tty in my opinion. A lot of these people did awfully petty "crimes" and end up paying for it not only in fines/jail time, but in losing a job, not getting hired for a job, based on a Google search of their name and having the info come up on Page 1 for their "horrible" mistake.

        Sorry, I don't feel bad that your site got burned.
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      Originally Posted by chg View Post

      We are all here because we are internet marketers. Honestly, this one site (out of the 1,100 that I own) is the only one that has experienced a growth rate like this. It went from $0/day to $200/day in a matter of 13 days. The traffic is coming back now, after making some minor tweaks and inserting some extras into the pages.

      The point is... This isn't capitalizing on misfortune and bad luck. If someone got arrested, they weren't unlucky - this did something illegal. Whether or not they were proven guilty, incarcerated, etc - that's up to the courts. I simply take the person's name and picture, and put it on a website. My employee who runs the site is only paid when removals are paid for, hence the admin fee. Otherwise, that employee won't make money.

      So, if you want to call it extortion, fine - call it that. But that couldn't be further from what it is. It just so happens that my employee is someone who needed a 2nd chance. Hopefully she isn't the only one I will be able to hire to work on this project.
      Oh, since we're internet marketers, well then, anything goes. Think about that when one of the "featured" people on your site decide you need a personal visit.
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    You own 1k other sites, you seriously don't need this form of money making
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Yes thanks for an interesting topic (about the first here all week).

    And yes the site sounds pretty nasty.

    Reputation means a lot to people. Here in Thailand if you go in a police station your mugshot appears all over the web even if you're a victim of a crime (e.g. ladyboys steal all your possessions).

    I don't know how anyone who runs this kind of site can sleep at night...
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    Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

    Fking Scam site, glad you got hit.
    Haha, accurate and to the point!
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    • Profile picture of the author michaelra
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      Haha, accurate and to the point!
      For once, I'm actually happy about those Google's new algorithm animals
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