Google 1st page with no content?!

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I started a new niche site, and I found one web2.0 site with almost no content at all!
I search the following using the keyword : "H miracle review", and I found this website: hxxp://hmiracle.webs.com ( Is not mine! )

I was impressed, cause I wrote more than 5 original unique articles, but only sitting around page 7 of google. I even have the site scanned, where only 11 do follow backlinks that help this site to appear at the first page.

If I clone the site, will I be on the first page of google also?
#1st #content #google #page
  • Profile picture of the author edzwoo
    Pretty much they have backlinks and you don't. Content alone will NEVER rank your site for any significant keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Hi. This site is not so bad. The domain name is GOOD for this keyword. Also the TITLE is the same keyword. It has no content, but some good backlinks... I am not impressed he managed to be on 1st page...
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  • Profile picture of the author kid3378
    The site is made by a very smart seo who's engaged in affiliate marketing. That's why its ranking first page
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    • Profile picture of the author jesisco
      Originally Posted by kid3378 View Post

      The site is made by a very smart seo who's engaged in affiliate marketing. That's why its ranking first page
      You're right! Here is a screenshot!


      Well done!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author ConsultJoseph
        Originally Posted by jesisco View Post

        You're right! Here is a screenshot!


        Well done!!!
        Dig deeper into the links and you'll see the high PRs and strong backlink profiles. Also, take a look at those 2 redirects.

        If you put up a page, copy his content, copy all his settings then you'll not even land inside top 50. Off-page SEO is his bread and butter and Google should be ashamed for allowing this to rank despite their PAnda 4.0s and Penguines and whatever else update they can come up with.
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  • Profile picture of the author adnanarsalan
    Keyword is very important in this case . Some keyword is not so valuable that they don't face strong competition and earn top page of Google .
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  • Profile picture of the author craighakwins
    Would you guys consider having the keyword in the domain name as well as the content, over-optimization?
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    • Profile picture of the author kid3378
      Originally Posted by craighakwins View Post

      Would you guys consider having the keyword in the domain name as well as the content, over-optimization?
      Nope.

      1.) EMD have been lessened in value by Google therefore the domain name is equal to a brand name.

      2.) Using "H-Miracle review" in H1 and in meta title is a good indication that it's aiming to rank on that keyword. I didn't see it repeated in the content either.

      The web 2.0 page is ranking because it's backed up with good backlinks + the competition is relatively low. Even with less on-site content, it will rank. Yes, content matters but backlinks matters more.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by kid3378 View Post

        Nope.

        1.) EMD have been lessened in value by Google therefore the domain name is equal to a brand name.

        2.) Using "H-Miracle review" in H1 and in meta title is a good indication that it's aiming to rank on that keyword. I didn't see it repeated in the content either.

        The web 2.0 page is ranking because it's backed up with good backlinks + the competition is relatively low. Even with less on-site content, it will rank. Yes, content matters but backlinks matters more.
        Not having an EMD is often a safer bet, it can hold more when you go a little aggresive with anchors / internal links.
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        • Profile picture of the author kid3378
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Not having an EMD is often a safer bet, it can hold more when you go a little aggresive with anchors / internal links.
          On a side note, I think Google is also giving big credits to branded links and branded anchor texts.

          Your thoughts on this guys?...
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        • Profile picture of the author kid3378
          Originally Posted by mkg View Post

          I disagree strongly, EMDs work magic. Their value isn't gone anywhere. Why post and act like an authority when you don't know anything.

          I am starting to believe 90% of the advice on the internet is total bullshit and its hard to filter out the crap from the good unless you do something yourself and test it out. I have seen EMDs rank in top 10 and dance between #5 to #18 position without any SINGLE backlink at all, all because of being an EMD and good on-page seo. IN FACT, i am looking at this keyword right now that is being spammed to death by idiots while an EMD is sittting at #5 position with just 2 weak backlinks, that sound like their value is lessened ? This is for a medium competition keyword.
          90% including you? why claim i don't know anything when you already concluded that yourself. ~_~`
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        • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
          Originally Posted by mkg View Post

          I disagree strongly, EMDs work magic. Their value isn't gone anywhere. Why post and act like an authority when you don't know anything.

          I am starting to believe 90% of the advice on the internet is total bullshit and its hard to filter out the crap from the good unless you do something yourself and test it out. I have seen EMDs rank in top 10 and dance between #5 to #18 position without any SINGLE backlink at all, all because of being an EMD and good on-page seo. IN FACT, i am looking at this keyword right now that is being spammed to death by idiots while an EMD is sittting at #5 position with just 2 weak backlinks, that sound like their value is lessened ? This is for a medium competition keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author hinner
    Yeah all you need is some powerful links. Create a PBN with powerful sites and you'll see results in no time
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  • Profile picture of the author Dzigi
    He doesn't even try to make a good spoon content

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    I wish him the best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
    That site you linked to is really lousy! And, though he's ranking so high for the keywords you want, do you really believe that person is earning money from that site? People will click through to his site and see absolutely nothing of value and then click back quickly to go to a site that isn't just trying to spam them with a for sale sign. It's not enough that you get ranking in Google, your content has to be good enough to make people stick around to make a purchase, either on your site or on the site you are linking to from your affiliate blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author parthesh
    Originally Posted by johnyeo90 View Post

    I started a new niche site, and I found one web2.0 site with almost no content at all!
    I search the following using the keyword : "H miracle review", and I found this website: H Miracle review ( Is not mine! )

    I was impressed, cause I wrote more than 5 original unique articles, but only sitting around page 7 of google. I even have the site scanned, where only 11 do follow backlinks that help this site to appear at the first page.

    If I clone the site, will I be on the first page of google also?
    Not Only Content but Backlinks is very much important to increase a rank but main thing is quality,that does not matter if you create a more and more links,the imp thing is how much quality of your link is if its few still you can get a good rank so, with content just go with only quality backlinks no need for bulk backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author realspinner
    It depends on keyword competition if you can check the competition on " H miracle review " is very low.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOArbiterJoanne
    As mentioned; links, links, links.
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  • Profile picture of the author sudo rank
    It's not that powerful a domain, you can beat it if you do a little bit of work!

    I'd be more impressed if there were decent links in ahrefs but it's mostly spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoace
    Personally, I have ranked pages with just their title, h1, an embed youtube video and 2 sentence of content and 0 links.

    When its time to increase their rank, I add more content to the pages.

    All this is done with no link building.

    BUT of course when it comes to hard keywords then links is a must.
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  • Profile picture of the author inudu
    Rankings mean nothing without conversions. I doubt this page is converting because I would just hit the back button and search for a more comprehensive review. That's just me.

    Backlinks are easy to get. Just get some High PR domains and build a blog network. Or go to fiverr and get a decent gig from Crokservice. Or build some social bookmarking links manually.

    What you want is rankings + conversions. Also throw some email marketing in to increase ROI.
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  • Profile picture of the author gladiator80
    They have to have some really good backlinks to rank that well...
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