Warrior Payments Feedback and Suggestions

Congratulations Alaister!

The suggestion i would like make is to have an IPN so we can track and integrate this system with ours.

Another suggestion is the ability to use our own buttons, so we could simply link it to checkout page.

Hi Alaister! I have my own membership system etc.. How would I go about setting it up here?

emilyshen, you will need IPN so you can integrate that with your membership script/app.. that's what I suggested him in my first reply

Will WF payments have an affiliate program for War Room, Kindle and High Voltage video forum?

I like the idea of a self-contained forum and payment system. Really like the ratings/feedback feature but to sway people away from JVZoo and W+ you're really going to have to step up your game. What you showed us on the live call won't be enough.

You guys have the resources (Jeez, 100's of 1000s of programmers at your disposal) use them.

I agree, Instant Payment Notification is a must have

Hi Alaister,

There were many legitimate questions on the initial thread, ie the thread you told everyone to post their questions.

Is that thread still live or been deleted?

EDIT - FOUND IT

Looks good so far, though seems extremely basic for how much it was hyped lol... I mean aside from the lower % how do the features of this stack up to JVzoo and WarriorPlus?

A few things I'd like to see added...

• Ability to customize Paypal page. IE use my own product/company banner.
• Customize the item number used for the product. (does Warrior Payments use random item #'s for each transaction like Warrior Plus?) I need to have the ability to set a fixed item number in Paypal.
• Paypal IPN support - specifically direct IPN variable passing without special versions of the variables. This will allow me to be able to integrate my existing system without needing additional customization to handle special IPN variables
• Keygen script support similar to warrior plus.
• Ability to use variables (such as paypal variables) in the thank you page URL. I often have things where people are redirected to the thank you page with paypal transaction id in GET or POST variables so I can validate the transaction
• Ability to track total thread bumps
• Website Development category would be nice with all the WP themes and plugins for sale on WF
• Interspire Email Marketer support for autoresponder. Perhaps something like an "Other" option where people can enter a POST url and variables to pass to it.
• The ability to delete a listing is CRUCIAL. Just tried a test listing and now it's there for eternity? lol
• OTO sales funnel support would be nice... And possible even the ability to downsell

All in all though this is a very interesting development and I'm eager to see how things progress with it.


Thanks!

Along with the ability to add affiliates, it would be nice to have a JV Feature...

JV's would get paid on every sale, not just affiliate sales...Make it nice to attract JV's to our offers and get their Promotion...

Adding JV's also makes it very EASY to partner with someone and then "split" the payments equally without any problems...

Looking forward to Warrior Payments growing and grabbing the market share here...

~AzSno...

You need to add the GetResponse API for AR.

If you don't already, you need to pass the sales data to the download URL.

-g

After you've added the functionality that others have mentioned above, here's a major
tip that could get Warriors to switch to your platform...

Don't email vendors' customers with offers. That is what I dislike the most about your competition.

Thanks

Make it so you can be payed out some other way then paypal, that would be good

Alaister, does this mean we can no longer use JVZoo, WSO Pro, Clickbank or any other platform to sell our product? Is it a requirement that we use Warrior Payments as a processor to post our WSO?

If so, I'd like the ability to use other payment processors. Not only that, but I also run free WSOs (which don't seem like they're supported at the moment) and free coaching calls to get people to sign up to my coaching program. In addition, I sell high ticket services; I certainly don't want run those through Warrior Payments as I don't want 2% of my commission being taken away from me.

Lastly, there is way too much advertising and banners promoting becoming a seller or an affiliate. Now more newbies and beginners that have no idea what they're talking about will try to run their own WSO. People who buy those WSOs will get crappy information in return and won't come back. This will certainly devalue the market. Also, all the banners take away from organic visitors from just VISITING the WSO section which most of us sellers rely on. Instead, it's promoting everyone become a WSO seller or affiliate. This will turn many WSO buyers into sellers... and sellers of crappy products (cause lots newbies don't have a clue about what they're talking about!).

Right now I'm not happy with the updates. This simple update is a way to kill the WSO section and eliminate profitability and potential for current sellers.

I think you've heard me out. I might just be missing something... please update me on the situation.

I'm still catching up on all the threads and wasn't able to attend the live event so some of this may have been addressed elsewhere and I just haven't gotten to it yet but here are a couple things that may interest me:

1. Make it easy to sell non-IM products to a non-IM crowd through the system.

2. Cut off, as much as possible, the rampant abuse of free (but probably some paid) WSOs to get email addresses that are then impossible to unsubscribe to because the seller shares the email with others. In many cases the initial email signup is through a trusted provider such as GetResponse or Aweber. But then the email is added to other lists and it's impossible to get off of.

3. Cut off, as much as possible, affiliate sales through email spam such as #2 above. I get a lot of spam (yes I know the definition, no I didn't sign up for anything) that sell WSOs on the Warrior Forum.

4. Have other payment processors integrated besides just PayPal.

Mark

1. Ability for recurring payments (think membership sites) and recurring commissions to affiliates.

2. Ability to delay commissions for unknown affiliates to prevent affiliate fraud.

3. Ability to hook up with any autoresponder service.

4. Ability to limit the numbers of sales (so if someone advertising only 100 copies will be sold, then the order button is disabled after 100 sales).

5. 5% commission to me on all sales (a guy can dream, can't he? :-)

I'll think of more.

Sounds exciting, but integration with membership plugins and platforms should be top of the agenda. In retrospect might have been better to have worked with those platforms first and then launch this.

Does it work for Indian PayPal's since PayPal India does not allow
adaptive payments.

If it works, this is going to be a beast

This looks great with very fair commissions. My business gets millions of traffic on a monthly basis, I would be interested in promoting products from WF using the new marketplace, however, I would like to see some type of banner that rotates for affiliates showing the best converting offers you have in the marketplace. Something that actually adapts to my website niche as well and shows the visitors targeted products, the same as other services such as Google Adsense does.

Is this possible guys?

Regards

1. Accept BITCOIN for payment & withdrawal.
2. Milestone payment system like in freelancer.com for "Warrior for Hire" section.
3. Product & Service category, sub-category & sub-sub category if needed.

Thanks.

I suggest having one thread in one forum, rather than threads all over the place.
You could lock the others with links to the main thread.

Again you have announced big offer it is great, please start training for newbies who wants to start earning as affiliate or seller because there are many newbies who does not have idea to get start as sell or affiliate i hope you will support newbies

Hi Alaister,
Greetings to all Warriors! Great to be here at Warrior Forum. I find the system pretty fluid, flexible and interactive amongst the users. Keep up with the good work.

Has anyone considered this from a potential customer's point of view?

1. Some form of identity/security/finance check on vendors before being allowed to post an offer
2. Make it clear who the vendor is... Permit only real names and make contact details mandatory.
3. Include refund ratio in vendor review and feedback system.

I'd also like to see sleazy gimmicks such as dime sales being removed but that's just a pet hate. ;-)

John

Mentioned this in another thread

It appears that the service sections like "Sites for Sell", "Warriors for hire" are not included in this new change?

Congrats Alaister. Big step for WF. Others have already stated that you need certain other features to make them happy ... IPN, OTO, funnel stuff, etc. I'm sure you'll get to that.

There's one thing that is critical to me and a lot of others who have been ripped off by affiliates on this forum, and that is delayed payments. Instant Payments is an instant deal breaker for me and a lot of others. I don't care how good anyone says their fraud prevention is ... we don't know that for certain, but we do know for certain, that Instant Payments will bring the credit card theft gang to this payment system in the thousands and they will sign up to be our affiliates. Then they'll buy our products with the stolen credit cards and their own affiliate link. We'll get a big rush of sales and go whoopee ... look at that affiliate. He really can sell. Then that affiliate will empty out his Paypal account and the chargebacks will start rolling in our Paypal accounts. We'll then be charged an additional $25 for each chargeback and there will be no option to at least recoup the commission we paid the "affiliate" because their Paypal account is empty.

This has happened exactly like this too many times to be funny on this forum and there are many threads about it and the advice is always universally ... don't approve anyone for being an affiliate that you don't know. Well, for most of us, that would be all but a small handful of people, and there will be literally tons of "affiliates" applying that we don't know.

The one thing that throws a monkey in their wrench is delayed payments. They're going after the commission and if they don't get it instantly, their whole scheme falls apart. They will never be paid once the chargebacks roll in and they know that, so they don't apply to be an affiliate to those who pay delayed payments. Problem solved.

So please consider Delayed Payments. It's going to be a real mess if you don't, I guarantee it.

In addition, having the ability to ban (from your own dashboard) buyers who are serial refunders is an excellent feature to have and solves another common problem of fraud on this forum.

On the ratings system... I do hope that only verified paying buyers can use it. This forum is rife with assmonkeys who use the thread star rating system to leave 1 star to their competitors to make them look bad. It happened to me and MANY others in Warriors for Hire and it will happen in the WSO forum if there's any way possible for them to do it.

Hey Alaister.

Great job on this one.

I'd love to get support for recurring payments (membership sites). This would be golden. And if you can integrate it with Wordpress Membership addons (specificly Paid Memberships Pro) that would be just perfect.

Best wishes and success,

- Juan

.... so, I just clicked on Create a WSO button and guess what? No option to use anything but your new system. Well, that's one way to eliminate the competition, except that your payment platform is not ready for prime time and does not have the features that people want and need at this point, so what do you think is going to happen now?

They will go to JVZoo, which is not dependent on the WF to create a listing and already has the features they need.

I really don't like not having options.

A better way to take market share when you launch a product is to blow all the competitors out of the water with features that they don't have, rather than try to take people hostage and force them to use your system. I think that you'll probably lose some customers doing it this way. Just my guess.

Another thought ... I do not have a refund policy. I sell templates, plugins, themes, software, etc. and the buyer knows exactly what they are getting before buying. I do not want to be involved in a system (like Clickbank for instance) that forces sellers to refund. I make my own judgment on a case by case basis whether or not I will refund a buyer, and I have very few refund requests.

Some if this I sent in reply to your PM, but ive also added more, So ill leave this here.

Its not mobile friendly. e.g When I get an email saying I have a new affiliate request, I click the link via mobile, Login, and it redirects me back to forum. If i go to warriorpayments, im still not logged in their, and prompts me to login again, thus redirecting me back to forum.

When I paid for my listing and it went Live, I had an email sent to me, but it was completely blank.

Delayed affiliate payments is seriously needed. There so much fraud from affiliates in the Industry, That without protection, its really going to hit the fan sooner or later.

An option to blacklist a buyer or affiliate is also needed.

Bitcoin Integration - I really think its a good approach to take if your interested. No chargebacks can occur, and It'll make bitcoin stronger as whole and grow further if a decent % of this forum adopted it.

Recurring payments are also needed desperatley, A lot of people included my self sell membership based products, Without it, You'll be losing alot of money.

Bonus Option, So that affiliates can upload their own files and when someone buys thru their link, they also get the bonus.

OTO/Funnel System, that also allows affiliate to apply for one product, and be approved throughout the funnel.

Affiliate Denial Reasons and Pre-approval text. Basically, when they click 'request' a box should popup with custom text that we want to display to the affiliate before applying, stating the terms in which they will be accepted etc, after they apply, and say we deny them, we should be able to state a reason, to let the affiliate know why he wasnt accepted.

Affiliate sales stats, when they are on my pending affiliates list, it would be nice to see how many sales they've made, their refund rate etc. Otherwise, Im either going in blind or I'll have to contact every affiliate just to ask basic information that should be displayed automatically.

Think thats it for now - Ill update this If I think of anything else.

Wait a second here......

Ok it's still first thing in the morning here but just for fun I clicked on a buy button in a WSO using the new warrior payments and it looks like all payment go directly to Freelancer International Pty Ltd instead of the vendor. So I imagine that means payments are then divided out from Freelancer to affiliate and vendors from Freelancers paypal account?

So, wouldn't that mean the fees associated with using Warrior Payments are much more than the advertised 2% when all things are considered?

I mean let's break this down...

• Customer buys product for $20 which is arguable the average price of a WSO. (sends money to Freelancer)
• Assuming Freelancer qualifies for lower Paypal interest rates of 1.9% + $0.30 that would mean net $19.32 is received by Freelancer
• Freelancer then keeps 2% (is it of the gross $20 or the net $19.32? Lets assume it's from $19.32) = $0.39 fee
• Assuming there are no affiliates Freelancer sends the rest to the Vendor which in a worst case scenario is still paying 2.9% +$0.30 to paypal for funds received. So the vendor gets $18.46 net

So basically vendors are getting dinged by paypal TWICE + Warrior Payments 2% - Is that right or am I missing something here being half asleep lol?

It's been about 10-15 minutes since I first clicked a link to this thread, and I found another thread about it, but still haven't seen a link to anything describing the Warrior Payments system. I guess I'll find it eventually. Not gonna keep looking, I'll stumble on it eventually... or not.

I second the motion

Looks great and you made your place in online product marketing.

Surprised no one else has picked up on this:

You've made a mistake on the Clickbank comparison.

"$47/month
+ 7.5% + $1 per sale"

It's a one off $47 activation fee and then 7.5% + $1 per sale.

Congratulations on this one Alaister.. I just have some comments or is it just me noticed this, that every time I clicked on average price column in marketplace to sort it asc or desc, the price will not be sorted out.. maybe it will but not in asc or desc order..

Implement conversion tracking feature for affiliates. Lot of affiliates will promote through different ad networks.

I celebrate a new alternative but my first impression is that it sounds like you launched...without knowing the market?

IPN...funnels....where are they? Does it support JV's? 2nd tier affiliates?

Does it support subscriptions??
List of features?

At this moment, the home page only says that you charge less than the rest but nothing else.

Also consider that today the top platforms give sellers info about affiliates who want to promote a product (you know their sales numbers / conversions / refunds) so you can approve them (or not) with instant/delayed payments.


Frankly...looks too basic right now (miles away from W+ / JVZoo).

Maybe it's ok for a quick wso launch but i think that you could go for more (i'm sure you will).

Best of Luck.

One of the things that I would want to see would be an API with "Bullet Proof Callback and init procedures) Paypal drops the ball on this in its offerings.

So if you are going to do this and do it in a way that provides the most beneficial workflow for professionals you really must have an API

(that may not be an option right away as its probably a challenge to implement)

But I can imagine it would save you hundreds of hours of intensive labor and support requests over time.

Here is an example, I just finished developing a license system where API calls from paypal were made at the time of purchase, but timeouts create a situation where the buyer is penalized for the shortcomings of the paypal system.

(by the way its not an accident either on the part of paypal)

They want you to use the Pro version of paypal services where you pay a monthly fee.

So that is why the Paypal IPN system will always fall short of what you want it to do.

But for many small vendors its the only alternative,.

Finding a method of passing customer data to your own server or CRM, now that is worth its weight in Gold...

Seriously, managing data here is probably your biggest task.

If you look really hard at the paypal API, you will see exactly where they let you down.

Identify that weakness and develop a solution in your own API and you will instantly become the most popular payment service in the IM industry.

Here is what I would see as the best work flow,

Process payment, confirm payment, submit data to CRM, (private server) or (AWS) or customer choice of passing data to customers digital solution.

Store the data in case the seller has a technical problem, you could then export the variables, import it to the customers system, either automatically or by CSV in case there is a problem in collecting data.

That way you would have a two tier, system of data preservation, it would effectively eliminate the tired old sorry our server crashed "we had so many sales" the old we were not prepared for success, story...

I would seriously consider integrating Payflow, either for professional sellers or as a service for stable sellers.

Providing a dynamic init callback would be my biggest wish list.

[Q] Alaister since you responded in the previous thread that custom IPN integration will be comming soon, could you please leave a hint if the "soon" is in a few days, or few months, because this is very important.

Im on the verge onto a release myself and I still have space to choose the payment method so I look forward to check out the WarriorPayments but only if I'm able to fully protect my membership site and automate the delivery.

Thanks!

Wow really cool to have warrior payments for the warrior forum.

My feedback or wishlist are as follows:
1) Variety of buy buttons
2) Counter or timer for pre launches or time limited offers
3) Integration with any autoresponder
4) Integration with any membership system like DLguard or Membersonic etc
5) System to accommodate refund policies
6) Encrypt supplied delivery url
7) ability to add bonuses
8) ability to allow affiliate to add bonuses
9) ability to do recurring payments

Thanks
Danny

I will never use it without this option. You'd have to be brain-dead.

since you are moving free wsos to the warroom are you removing the no forced optins rule on the warroom thread? otherwise you take out an important part of free wsos...building your list!

Well, I thought I'd give the WFP a shot but just found out that all affiliates are approved for instant commissions. Delayed commissions has to be an option for me to use this system. Just way too many ways to get scammed otherwise.

I agree, Instant Payment Notification is a must have

please how do i get connected to the warrior forrum payment as first steps, thanks.

If Freelancer took WF over, the main reason is for sure to control the payments made in the WSO section. They would be dumb not to do it. It has been left aside by previous owner and for this reason new services emerged like W+ and then JVZ. It did not make sense for previous owner to let such a business to 3rd party.

So, in 2 months they managed to launch this, you can be sure that in 3 months or so they would have started to understand what the market want and they will code all the features other platforms never manage to code, being too busy to live off your sales!

Of course it's clear they have no idea what the market is, and what it is to sell online apart from managing freelancers. But they will just put all other platforms into total and utter shame in just a few months, if at least they follow their guidelines and don't listen to anyone :-)

In 6 months from now, no one will be resistant anymore to using them for their WSO as it will bring more value to sellers and buyers. W+ will be from the past, JVZ will focus on sales outside of WF and life will go on.

But since there are more and more people in this forum, more and more sellers and buyers, people will use the system in place. It just takes time for most to accept changes and get used to it. Hopefully the team in charge will stay clear with their roadmap and get real when releasing new features.

How far along are we on the delete feature? Got a ton of people asking to be an affiliate for my test product linking to test.com. Good to see these affiliates do their due allegiance checking out sales pages of products and not just requesting to be added as affiliate to every product LOL

If you could delete that listing in the meantime it would be appreciated

I think this is great for us. Do you have a manual on how to use this new resource?

Great news! You should add the option of creating funnels.

Alaister sir i am not yet understand how to use and how can i add my SEO service and my website details can you please send me email 1 more time

First of all... AWESOME job.

Here's my wishlist:

Ability to build out a sales funnel with multiple upsells.

Ability to approve and disapprove certain affiliates, because it's easy for scammers to take advantage of PayPal API. If you allow everyone to promote, then you put your account in jeopardy.

GetResponse auto-responder integration.

Ability to turn off general replies on your WSO thread and only allow reviews from paying customers.

A built-in HTML editor to create better-looking WSO sales pages... or at least some kind of toolbar that helps you design a better-looking page. Not everyone understands coding or vBulletin codes.

Every feature WarriorPlus and JVZoo have.

1.) WooCommerce Integration?
2.) Definitely a mixed commission structure: Flat Affiliate Commission, % Affiliate Commission, Recurring Affiliate Commission % (For Recurring Services), Flat Affiliate Commission for Recurring Services, One-time Flat Affiliate Commission for Recurring Services.
3.) Client cancellation workflow API, WooCommerce.

AWESOME feedback guys! This is great stuff. Would you all be able to give some prioritization to what you think the most important features are to knock off first?

We want to build the best product possible, designed by WARRIORS for WARRIORS!

Regards
Matt

I'm with sbucciarel on this one. I don't appreciate the fact that the Warrior Forum are effectively going to FORCE Warrior Payments onto me if I choose to launch a WSO in the future and believe it will ultimately be the death of the section unfortunately.

I know at the moment we can choose to run it as we wish (if we know the secret link). But it sounds like the future is going to be warrior payments or get lost.

The way I see it is I got to Clickbank to process payments and attract affiliates, I go to Paypal to process payments, I got to JVzoo to process payments and attract affiliates, I go to the WARRIOR FORUM for the traffic that's here (when it comes to selling products anyways).

Please could you allow integration with getresponse autoresponder

Thank you so much Freelancer team.

HI,

There are a lot of inquiries that come up relating to a myriad of topics related to the Warrior Forum and will continue with the new offerings.

That said, you really need to up everyone's PM count to 100. You have people that get 3 important messages and 1 of them gets bumped because of having no space or you have a seller who realizes that a potential buyer is not monitoring a thread and needs to get a hold of them, only to find that their pm box is full. $100 for improved access is not the answer here.

If you're going to upgrade the business offerings, you need to upgrade the infrastructure.

Best of luck!
GfS

I too fear that in the nearby future we're all going to be forced to use warrior payments or nothing else as Alaister was quoted as saying "We're not banning the use of any network at this point",

I've been a WSO seller for several years and my current WSO has over 159,000 views and I have no desire (or margin) for affiliates and therefore use my own paypal button nor do I have any desire to be doubled dipped on, if this changes I will have to jump ship unfortunately...

Edit: nor do I want somebody else controlling my refunds, my service costs me money to run so refunds hurt a lot, buyers quickly catch drift of this and abuse the heck out of it, this is why I'll never deal on clickbank and i know a lot of other IMers won't either due to this reason, the same product controlled by me gets 2% refund rate but on clickbank gets 17% refund rate, hurts everybody except the dodgy buyer, plus I hope my buyers won't automatically be signed up to get blasted with "deal of the day" affiliate links like W+ does..

To be honest I'm failing to see the benefits to WSO sellers who've driven a LOT of traffic to this forum over the years, but the immediate benefits to freelancer are clear as day

I am glad this is being implanted and also would be interested to see if there can be a way to not have instant affiliate payments if someone has a refund policy so this doesn't cause confusions.

Debbie

Sign up at https://www.warriorforum.com/register.php not working for me.
When I try to sign up I get down to the part where it says Verify Image but there is no image that appears, neither in Firefox nor Chrome.
So then when I answer the other verify question like "what is the middle letter of the word "new"?", and submit the form, it says I failed to answer the question about the image.

How can I if I can't see the image?
Either there is something wrong with your page, not showing the image, or there's something wrong with my browsers/computer. I suspect it's your page because I have no problem answering image questions and seeing the images on other sites.

• Full sales funnel with upsells and downsells
• Ability to offer both delayed and instant commissions to affiliates
• GetResponse must be added to autoresponder choices
• DO NOT take away the choice to place any payment buttons we want, not now, nor in the future ie: JVZoo and Warrior+
• Get rid of the rating system, it is flawed and when idiots who leave a 0 rating when they think a WSO should be free, or those that have tech problems, which has already happened on a WSO that's live now, it will totally warp an accurate rating of the product itself and hinder sales.
• If there MUST BE a rating system it should only be accessible to verified buyers and all reviews should be moderated to eliminate lame ratings that have nothing to do with the product itself. Technical glitches in set up should not reflect badly on the seller or their product.
• Let sellers reply to reviews like eBay does AND sellers should be able to review buyers so the retards that troll threads just to be negative can be called out.
• Instant payments direct to seller's Paypal and to affiliates is a must.
• Refund requests must be verified with seller, the system now is set up where we have to give you Paypal authorization to process refunds, that's not cool if refunds will be randomly handed out at the whim of Freelancer. My products are PLR and have a limit on when a refund is given, no exceptions.
• Lastly, there should be a complete FAQ with all the rules and details on the system, right now, there are too many unanswered questions and no way to understand exactly how it works or the rules.

I am one of the first few warriors to jump on the new system yesterday.

From integration of WarriorPayments in existing threads, approval of affiliates, WSO stats to the first product sale today using this new system, it has been a great experience so far.

I agree with all others who suggested some nice features which we must see implemented soon. Congratulations to Freelancer team on introducing WarriorPayments and hey, nothing is perfect on its initial launch. What matters is how this team will improve and make this the best affiliate marketplace just as we know WarriorForum as the best Internet Marketing forum since over a decade.

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Seems like everyone suggested what I thought of initially but here's one:

-> Ability to add multiple payment buttons in a thread as many of us run "services" as WSO threads with different packages/plans.

Cheers,

Abdul

Definitely needs a profit share feature for vendors that work in partnership

Otherwise it will be less than useless to some

Suggestion: Make it so it works.

I connected Aweber and when I select it I get an error page.

Andy

Awesome features, addict members will try this platform. Good luck

Can you seriously implement getresponse asap. . . Its bugging me, that im going to have to manually add all customers to the list. Also, No export feature - Going to be doubly annoying. . .

It looks good but I see no way to link a OTO as an upsell or as a downsell and have separate affiliate commissions for each.

I think increasing the number of PMs is a good idea. Keep in mind, though, that sellers are currently required to have a support/contact system that is independent of the forum. The idea behind that is, if someone gets banned, or the forum is down, or the PM system is borked, that shouldn't keep customers from contacting a seller.

If you plan to do away with that rule, increasing the PM counts is a "must." If not, it's still a good idea, as a lot of people prefer to keep everything forum-related on the forum.


Paul

I'm seriously confused ... I know, situation normal! lol

I decided to give it a try and after going live four hours ago I have nothing to send affiliates. I wrote support and was told there is no real link to send affiliates so they can sign up. Instead I was told to wait until it shows in the marketplace and then affiliates can sign up. It was stated this would take "some hours"

IMHO, this is REALLY bad and I just can't get my head around why it would be setup this way. I believe it should be instantaneous like the other platforms are.

Just my two cents.

Isn't the challenge for the WF more about making WSO's more commercially viable. Most marketers are leaning towards launching off of the forum because of trolls. A new platform like this might or might not work. It reaches out towards off WF sellers, but with the limited features in this initial release its not so attractive yet.

Fee's are important, but if you get good value for your $ then something has to offer more value than simply less cost and therefore less value.

Just my $0.02

Chris

Congrats on the new payment platform, guys. I'm sure it will be great once it matures a bit and more features are added.

I, as well as many others I'm sure, would like to see other payment/affiliate platforms always be allowed to be used here. But I am also realistic and understand, from a business owner's perspective, why Freelancer would want to keep the entire "pie" to themselves. With that in mind, I would like to make a suggestion.

IF Freelancer's goal is at some point to ban all other affiliate platforms from being used here (I really hope not, but IF...), then I strongly suggest that they wait to do so until 1) the feature set of Warrior Payments is comparable to that of JVZoo, ClickBank, etc., and 2) they've had enough time to build up a strong affiliate base.

People don't like to have their choices taken away (especially when they have been using something that works great for them for a long time). So IF you're going to take away the choice of which affiliate platform may be used here, then please at least wait until the product becomes as desirable as the choices that you are taking away. If you don't do that, then I think there is a very high risk that it could backfire... BIG TIME.

If you wait until the product is as good or better than the competition, then you won't have to use strong-arm tactics to get people to use it. They will flock to it in droves, naturally.

My 2 cents.

And again... congrats on the launch, guys.

My feedback is if you are going to delete threads please at least PM a reason.

Hi Alaister,

The highest price point right now is $1000. What about those
who sell high ticket products & services?

It would be nice to have an option to add my services to the
system without the $1k limit. I'm sure that more people are interested
in this.

There's a number of good suggestions for features listed above. However, in my mind it comes down to two simple points:

1. Security and the ability to protect my Paypal account, which means approving/disapproving affiliates, using delayed payments, etc.

2. How many affiliates will I get and how much money will they make me? All those other features are nice, but it really comes down to making sales and will the affiliates from Warrior Payments make me more money than the affiliates from the other affiliate platforms? The WF has a huge pool of potential affiliates...How is this best leveraged?

For example, PayGear probably has the best feature set of any of the platforms. But they don't have the pool of affiliates the others have.

Not sure if this has been asked yet but is there any direct affiliate links to sellers products that can be given out to people when announcing their product releases to JVs and Affiliates.

Right now I am looking for a straight affiliate link to my products and I can't find any, it seems self contained as though you need to be logged into the WP system to go to the affiliate area and scroll through looking for the product.

Direct affiliate signup links that can be given out to my products is a must, also currently getting a 404 error whenever going to any of the view stats pages, so can these can get sorted .a.s.a.p.

Cheers.
Sim

Thank You for the updated changes to WF. This will help me stop wasting money.

I really like warriorplus. I think freelancer should've just bought them out too

Anyways, I agree with the others, a lot of features are still missing.
For one, I hope you get GetResponse setup soon.

Cmon, where's the direct link to run a WSO without this payments system.

Pretty amazing scrolling through all of these posts.....

Al lot of advice & helpful suggestions are coming from people who have never even run a WSO, let alone tested this new platform

Personally, I wish you every success with it. I tested with a WSO (yes, I have actually used it) and all I can say is I *may* consider using the platform again when it has been developed properly to where it is at least i) out of beta and ii) a viable alternative to what is already out there and already works just great.

You don't need feedback from wannabe WSO vendors. Just head over to JVZoo. There is the benchmark you have to make this platform live up to. Until then, why would anyone willingly use something inferior?

if Warrior Payments is an example of the code quality you get when you outsource on Freelancer then it's one big nail in the coffin for outsourcing.

Andy

From a buyers perspective:

Is there a Customer Portal? I just bought a product from WP and have the direct download page within WP for that product but cannot locate the general,

Here are the product(s) barbling has bought.

My email shows the direct download WP page as well.

What happens if I misplace my email? Where do I go to find my product?

Email is also sent from

noreply@warriorforum.com

Ummm, not very trust-building.

support@warriorforum.com perhaps?

Also, the 3 digit price shows as 2 digits - ie, $4.1 instead of $4.10

Thanks!

I posted a WSO and was told "Success" after I linked to PayPal, but I was never given the opportunity to enter a description and I don't see the product "The Monster on Top of the Bed - Kindle edition showing up.

Help, please.
Alan

Any idea how long until the glitch I mentioned yesterday can be sorted so I can edit my product and remove download to use the url field to add my own page for the download. Right now when a product is edited and the download removed it doesn't then give the option for the url for product delivery like when you set up and I want to update all my products with a url now instead of the download option.

Thanks in advance.
Sim

Want to see ability to put free Front end product with paid OTO option.

Can we create a free WSO with this system? If so, how?. When I put $0.00 as the price, it continues to ask for a valid price. Without getting through this step, I can't move forward to create the WSO thread. I'm I missing something here??

Just clicked on the Deal of the Day email I received about the White Label Print Biz and got this:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /dipwf/ on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Hi Alaister,

I'm Rob Alexander, i've worked in IT for many years and am finally submitting my first WSO...

Now I'm pretty good with web 2.0 etc but for even someone like me, the new Create A WSO page is very confusing and doesn't explain anything at all.

I've got some feedback here that could make a big difference to it's success.

I noticed down further at the affiliate section you've got a 'hover' explanation section that pops up to explain it. But there's nothing higher up at the submit files / web address WSO file section, nor down below to tell you what you need to do and when???

What WSO files am I uploading? My sales page? My product? Both?? What format? How long will it take to review?
How do I set which page the customer goes to after they pay?
How do I integrate my mail-list provider (GetResponse) to your button?
How do I use my page i've already got in HTML on the WSO page instead of the WIndows 3.1 style text interface??

See what I mean?

And the Help link is as helpful as a crashed hard-drive as it just goes to the Freelancer site, which has no help nor references to the warrior forum.

I'm not offering to rewrite the page or something (although I could, I am a landing page copywriter after all), what I am saying though is that if a seasoned IT person like me can't understand how to use what is otherwise a beautiful interface, how do the newbie's do it?

At $20 per WSO, i'm asserting that you'd be losing a LOT of people at that page because no one knows what to do there.

Suggest:

Pop-up detail boxes to explain what each thing is / what it's for / what to do and secondly,
Explain the process below the page in simple step-by-step form so that people know what to do.

And if you can do that, i'll start putting through 2 to 3 WSO's per week, every week.

Many thanks in advance,


Rob.

I have a question about the affiliate page here: https://payments.warriorforum.com/affiliate-marketplace

It sorta does relate to the payments system I think but maybe not, so if you consider it off topic feel free to remove the post.

Upon looking at the stats for the last 30 days I see a small number
of offers with a few hundred sales so I'm assuming these numbers
are due to the mails Alaister is sending?

On another note I noticed that one WSO that's using the Warrior Payments system has some refund request's and the vendor is dependent upon the WP team to process the refund.

I think it's a good idea to allow the vendor to process or initiate the refund process so it's done in a more timely manner instead of having to be dependent upon some one else to process refunds for their own product.

It's making the vendor look bad when the customer has to wait for some one else to do it yet the customer did business with the vendor not the WF and the vendor's hands are tied forcing them to be dependent upon some one else to satisfy the refund. Make sense?

I have spent the last 20 minutes trying to gain access to a purchase. That's not a good thing. I click on the link sent to me in email, and it's basicaly blank, no way to download presented. It does not work because it requires JavaScript to be turned on. Before you go into the normal dribble of how easy it is to turn it on, yes, I know how easy it is. I'm the one that turned it off to begin with. I turned it off for security purposes, and I will NOT be turning it back on.My suggestion is this: either make the system more accessable to those of us who refuse to allow JavaScript to run on our boxes, or stop sending us emails trying to get us to use the system.Another suggestion is to work on the recaptcha system. Part of those 20 minutes were spent trying to read the damn characters, and getting told to try it again.These kind of things will push paying customers away. I know, I just paid, and I'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy inside over this whole incident.I have already contacted the seller telling them that I can not access my purchase through this system, and asked that they either send it to me via email, or refund me. Replying to this will probably be a useless act, as I'm so disgusted and irritated by the incident that I doubt I will stick around in here today to wait for replies. You have a decent concept started here, and I like it. But these 2 things really sucked, which brought down the overall experience. Just a suggestion, for whatever it's worth.

No, just to be clear, I did not have to enter a captcha to claim the merchandise. It never got that far. I clicked on the link in the email to go download it, and the page was almost blank. It had a red bar across the top, no text in it, and a link to the feedback and suggestions forum. That was it. There was no captcha. There was no nothing, except the link to this thread. It required me to enter a captcha in order to log on(in order to post to this thread), which I couldn't read many times, and then to reset my password because it no longer worked(something about all passwords having been made invalid and requiring everybody to choose new ones). I can see the need for a captcha, because so many out there will set up spam bots. But if they ain't readable by us mere mortals, they are too strong. That part wasn't my main complaint though. I STILL have not been able to get what I paid for, because it requires JavaScript to work on my box, and the seller has not responded. I think they are on the far side of the planet, so they are probably asleep lol.

I like the direct search url function that was recently added. Makes things a lot easier to direct prospective affiliates.

Now...
It'd be nice if there's a function to mass message or announce to all your affiliates in one go.

Also, I'm using the dimesale function to make my price rise by 7 cents. It worked well the first time, but the second time it rose, it rose by 6 cents instead. It's minor and I don't really mind the 1 cent discrepency, but I hope there won't be major discrepencies accumulating later on. Can someone tell me their experience with the dimesale feature? Thanks!

I have tried twice to get help getting into the program. I have gotten no responce. If I don't get a responce to this thread, I will ask for my money back.

Hi WF,

It's been a while since someone addressed the comments on this thread, can someone get back to them so we all know where things are currently. I have asked a few times about the issue with the Thank You URL field not reappearing after a download is removed to choose url for delivery and I have been waiting for someone to comment or fix that issue for over 2 weeks.

The other main issue is the IPN question, has it been tested by the forum to verify the values are in deed being sent to it because all my tests using it have failed to receive any values which means I can not finish my software until this is sorted and a reply to the thread to let myself and others looking at using the IPN will really help.

Thanks in advance.
Sim