by Radix
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I'm both laughing and crying. I've spent the last 6 hours being butt raped by wordpress and I still can't make it do anything I want it to.

I've been building web sites for over ten years using code.

Why is this so bloody hard and who created this thing from hell called Wordpress?

Am I really gaining any benefits with regard to the SEO optimization tools in Wordpress?
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    What exactly are you trying to do?
    I think Wordpress is about as good as any other script. It is well developed, but to get "under the hood" takes a little time to learn how things work.
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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    I'm no doctor but I'd say you're a bit stressed?

    WordPress is actually a pretty decent content management platform, especially from the end-users viewpoint. It makes posting and updating web content very easy - I usually go from registering a domain name to being "on the air" with a rudimentary site in 15-30 minutes thanks to WordPress and the availability of so many open source themes.

    If you're a coder trying to develop a WordPress plugin (or modify an existing one) then you may be subject to minor bouts of frustration, mostly due to lack of documentation in certain areas. Is this what's got you upset about WordPress?

    If you're only using WordPress for SEO then you may just want to go back to what you're familiar with and make sure to use proper SEO techniques where they're applicable. But WordPress can offer so many other advantages in terms of management and expansion with so many available plugins and themes.

    What is it about WP that frustrates you the most?

    BIll
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    • Profile picture of the author Radix
      Originally Posted by mywebwork View Post

      I'm no doctor but I'd say you're a bit stressed?

      WordPress is actually a pretty decent content management platform, especially from the end-users viewpoint. It makes posting and updating web content very easy - I usually go from registering a domain name to being "on the air" with a rudimentary site in 15-30 minutes thanks to WordPress and the availability of so many open source themes.

      If you're a coder trying to develop a WordPress plugin (or modify an existing one) then you may be subject to minor bouts of frustration, mostly due to lack of documentation in certain areas. Is this what's got you upset about WordPress?

      If you're only using WordPress for SEO then you may just want to go back to what you're familiar with and make sure to use proper SEO techniques where they're applicable. But WordPress can offer so many other advantages in terms of management and expansion with so many available plugins and themes.

      What is it about WP that frustrates you the most?

      BIll
      The widgets are driving me insane...and yeah the documentation thing. I have a partner who is not a programmer that wants to start helping with that load and I want/need him to do that. Wordpress also seemed like a good choice with all the auto SEO packages out there. One less thing for me to have to do.

      My biggest gripe is half the templates I find are too frickin big. Great looking stuff, but not many people in my target audience go over 800X.

      I remove stuff from the right hand column in magically some other junk shows up there. It shows no widgets in the control panel, yet magically something is there. I go to the code and try to weed out the culprit, apply another change to widgets and damnit, magically the junk I just removed is back.

      ARGHHHHHHHHH!

      Maybe I'm just using crap templates?

      Thanks for your help and yes I'm wee stressed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kecia
        Originally Posted by Radix View Post

        I remove stuff from the right hand column in magically some other junk shows up there. It shows no widgets in the control panel, yet magically something is there. I go to the code and try to weed out the culprit, apply another change to widgets and damnit, magically the junk I just removed is back.
        Most templates have a sidebar.php page with them, so that if you remove all the Widgets in the Dashboard, the template will revert to what's in the sidebar.php page. Have you checked there?
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        • Profile picture of the author Radix
          Originally Posted by Kecia08 View Post

          Most templates have a sidebar.php page with them, so that if you remove all the Widgets in the Dashboard, the template will revert to what's in the sidebar.php page. Have you checked there?
          That was indeed what happened. I changed themes...again. I've found a few WP tutorials. Is there one that stands above the rest?
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  • Profile picture of the author Katatonic
    Hold on...

    You've been coding for 10 years and you can't make Word press do what you want? Why are you blaming Word Press?

    You could create your own system very quickly with plugin ability like WP as well (it shouldn't take long).
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    • Profile picture of the author Radix
      Originally Posted by Katatonic View Post

      Hold on...

      You've been coding for 10 years and you can't make Word press do what you want? Why are you blaming Word Press?

      You could create your own system very quickly with plugin ability like WP as well (it shouldn't take long).
      Word Press is possessed. I've used dozens of CMS and tried wordpress ages ago and had the same experience. I thought I'd try it again. It hates me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Katatonic
    Have you thought about using another CMS?
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    • Profile picture of the author Radix
      Originally Posted by Katatonic View Post

      Have you thought about using another CMS?
      It is my every other thought, but my logic is, "that many people can't be wrong."

      Can they?
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      • Profile picture of the author Katatonic
        Originally Posted by Radix View Post

        It is my every other thought, but my logic is, "that many people can't be wrong."

        Can they?
        Indeed they can.

        People are still using Windows when Linux is free... We're still driving cars even though 10 minutes with one in a sealed room switched on is enough to kill you (think about what it does to the environment then).

        I've found over the years with programming any thing, you are much better doing it right from the start. Trying to nit-pick at any body's useless code (I'd say 99% of all the programmers I meet are incompetent) is never worth it.

        However, starting off with a base such as Word Press isn't bad and does save time if you just want to get some thing up.

        Word Press is open source - there is nothing stopping you from changing it to work better.
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  • Profile picture of the author folkcare
    Oh well, I can tell you I felt just the same at one time. It's now become a 5 minute job, with very little in the way of frustration. I will admit to some though when the newer version came out.

    Its a great CMS - but you really need to be specific - oh I can see you're hung up on the template. I've had a little bit of trouble there. But the ones offered to you by wordpress themselves seem to work fine for me.

    Here's a wordpress tutorial, but it may be a bit basic.
    How to Develop Money-Making Niche Sites with WordPress | Caroline Middlebrook

    Hope that helps.
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