JVZoo vs Warrior+

by Ed Micah 143 replies
Just noticed there's a new affiliate programs that's around the forum recently.

JVZoo, what exactly are the differences between the that and Warrior Plus in feature-wise?

Hmm, are we allowed to put both buy buttons from both affiliate program on once sales page?
#internet marketing product reviews & ratings #jvzoo #warrior #warriorplus
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  • Profile picture of the author blillard
    I have never used warrior pro other than as an affiliate which I had to pay for monthly. I sent questions for support never got. As a result I did not use them I have launched a thread using jvzoo. I did not have to pay for button my affiliates can promote for free, oto buttons included as well. I want to see how many will make the switch over to this instead. I can see it really taking off but warrior plus is highly well know on the forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cory Friedman
      Hey folks,

      I found this link that does a solid job comparing all the different
      payment processors... check it out:

      and here's the comparison table:

      https://www.jvzoo.com/compare
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      • Profile picture of the author NXmarketeer
        Originally Posted by Cory Friedman View Post

        Hey folks,

        I found this link that does a solid job comparing all the different
        payment processors... check it out:

        and here's the comparison table:

        https://www.jvzoo.com/compare
        this is what i was looking for! thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author tremayne
          Giving serious consideration to using JVZoo for a launch this month but have a number of questions:

          1- Our first launch is a tool in the investment field - a very sophisticated and detailed online ROI calculator. Is JVZoo's affiliate pool right for such a different promotion? This product would be useful to stock, ETF, forex and day trading investors.

          2- We use CRM, autoresponder and other software at Infusionsoft. Is there a way to link our JVZoo activity to that?

          3- We use a metrics dashboard at Growthink that is linked to Infusionsoft's CRM software. If there is a need to do so, can JVZoo also be linked to the Growthink dashboard?

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          • Profile picture of the author tecHead
            Sounds like you need to employ a programmer; as the best way to integrate all of what you're looking to integrate would be via the InfusionSoft API and JVZoo's IPN...

            HTH
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            Originally Posted by tremayne View Post

            Giving serious consideration to using JVZoo for a launch this month but have a number of questions:

            1- Our first launch is a tool in the investment field - a very sophisticated and detailed online ROI calculator. Is JVZoo's affiliate pool right for such a different promotion? This product would be useful to stock, ETF, forex and day trading investors.

            2- We use CRM, autoresponder and other software at Infusionsoft. Is there a way to link our JVZoo activity to that?

            3- We use a metrics dashboard at Growthink that is linked to Infusionsoft's CRM software. If there is a need to do so, can JVZoo also be linked to the Growthink dashboard?

            Sydney
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            • Profile picture of the author tremayne
              Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

              Sounds like you need to employ a programmer; as the best way to integrate all of what you're looking to integrate would be via the InfusionSoft API and JVZoo's IPN...

              HTH
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              • Profile picture of the author Dantplayer
                Looks like I'm going to go the Warrior+ route.. since integration with Infusionsoft is an absolute must.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
      If you are launching wsos, I would use warrior plus. Anything else I would use Jvzoo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
    Having used both Warrior Plus and JVZoo as an affiliate, and setting up products in both programs, I gotta say, they're both good.

    They both get the job done, but personally, I love JVZoo a bit more.

    It's real simple and clean, you don't HAVE to pay $20 every time to release a product (you'll pay a small percentage of each sale to the platform, but you don't have to spend any more money to get the buttons to work or anything like that.)

    Everything really just laid out for you with JVZoo, and there's plenty of people who are joining it.

    Not to mention Bryan and E. Brian Rose are on top of everything, and make sure their coders take care of all their customers.

    Example: Chris Ramsay released something recently, but he was having some problems.

    They got to him QUICK and made sure everything was squared away so he could do his sale like he wanted without anything to hold it up.

    Warrior Plus seems to be getting kinda lax with helping the customers and such. Not trying to say anything bad, but it just seems like they're not all there anymore.

    JVZoo is new, everyone's on task, and it's easy to use.

    I'll take JVZoo for all the products I release in 2012.

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    • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
      Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

      Having used both Warrior Plus and JVZoo as an affiliate, and setting up products in both programs, I gotta say, they're both good.

      They both get the job done, but personally, I love JVZoo a bit more.

      It's real simple and clean, you don't HAVE to pay $20 every time to release a product (you'll pay a small percentage of each sale to the platform, but you don't have to spend any more money to get the buttons to work or anything like that.)

      Everything really just laid out for you with JVZoo, and there's plenty of people who are joining it.

      Not to mention Bryan and E. Brian Rose are on top of everything, and make sure their coders take care of all their customers.

      Example: Chris Ramsay released something recently, but he was having some problems.

      They got to him QUICK and made sure everything was squared away so he could do his sale like he wanted without anything to hold it up.

      Warrior Plus seems to be getting kinda lax with helping the customers and such. Not trying to say anything bad, but it just seems like they're not all there anymore.

      JVZoo is new, everyone's on task, and it's easy to use.

      I'll take JVZoo for all the products I release in 2012.

      -Sean Sheehan
      Thanks, Sean. Let us know if you have any questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Harrop
    Although I haven't used JVZoo for any WSO's yet, I've been happy with how it works so far. I've placed products on there platform directly and it's very easy to use. I'll be using it for any WSO's in the future. I also think that JVZoo has some new features coming out soon as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author RichWill
      I have been with JVZoo since it's inception. I started with Warrior Plus as we all do. I have found JVZoo to be very easy to use and the cost comparison between JVZoo and Warrior Plus is a no brainer. JVZoo is less expensive.

      JVZoo is easier to use and I have been placing my products on their site for the past couple of days. The features JVZoo presents are a welcome upgrade from what we all have been use from ease of creating a sales page on their site to presenting WSO's and placing products in a forum

      It's so easy to do even a cavema....newbie will have no problems. The best benefit is the support and the staff. Everyone talks about Bryan and Brian, their ideas and marketing geniuses, but my hat is off to Chad Casselman. He is the real brains behind making JVZoo work so flawlessly.

      This group from JVZoo are the future. Grab their IPO..........lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
    I like jvzoo more now than w+. I was having a problem due to me using a custom delivery script. Bryan got me setup with his coder and in minutes, they made changes on their end and now my delivery script works. I haven't seen anyone so open to user feedback and responding so quickly to it. Anyone interested in jvzoo should check it out. 2 thumbs up!
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  • Profile picture of the author BestSEO
    All I can say is, JVZOO blows away anything I have seen and/or used.... It is one of those true game changers and I hate people that use that saying regularly.... But for this service, they have really outdone themselves!!!! I mean look at what you get without the headaches!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ed Micah
    Thanks for all the information about JVZoo, I think anyone can tell who's better now...

    However, I was just wondering, does JVZoo has any similar function like WSO of the day that sends mass emails for the chosen WSO?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Some comparison and perspective from someone that's used both systems as an affiliate and a vendor.

      1. I've had ZERO downtime with JVZoo as of yet, which means that I've made all the money I was supposed to make. With Warriorplus, I've lost thousands of dollars both as an affiliate when my links weren't being tracked and douche bag vendors wouldn't pay out and as a vendor when potential buyers couldn't buy.

      2. As an affiliate with JVZOO, I get paid from the very first sale, with warriorplus, as an aff you have to wait for the 2nd sale to get paid.

      3. As a vendor, If I have a partner in the product, I can set them up as a "JV" - assign a percentage from them, and the profits are split with every single sale that is made....So, no accounting to do later on, which makes it pretty damn simple.

      4. JVZoo is using the adaptive payment system which is actually what paypal prefers for transactions like the ones that are being made, instead of customers sending money directly to affiliates and then a month later having no clue who the actual product vendor was.

      Obviously the "idea" behind the two are similar, but for me, the infrastructure of JVZOO just makes me more comfortable right now...Hopefully Mike will look into some of the "glitches" that we've been experiencing as vendors and affiliates for the last couple months and fix them.
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      • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

        Some comparison and perspective from someone that's used both systems as an affiliate and a vendor.

        1. I've had ZERO downtime with JVZoo as of yet, which means that I've made all the money I was supposed to make. With Warriorplus, I've lost thousands of dollars both as an affiliate when my links weren't being tracked and douche bag vendors wouldn't pay out and as a vendor when potential buyers couldn't buy.

        2. As an affiliate with JVZOO, I get paid from the very first sale, with warriorplus, as an aff you have to wait for the 2nd sale to get paid.

        3. As a vendor, If I have a partner in the product, I can set them up as a "JV" - assign a percentage from them, and the profits are split with every single sale that is made....So, no accounting to do later on, which makes it pretty damn simple.

        4. JVZoo is using the adaptive payment system which is actually what paypal prefers for transactions like the ones that are being made, instead of customers sending money directly to affiliates and then a month later having no clue who the actual product vendor was.

        Obviously the "idea" behind the two are similar, but for me, the infrastructure of JVZOO just makes me more comfortable right now...Hopefully Mike will look into some of the "glitches" that we've been experiencing as vendors and affiliates for the last couple months and fix them.
        Thanks, Jeremy! Always awesome to get feedback from an experienced marketer, like you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dominis Marketing
    I've used JVZoo for all my products.

    So far, all I can say is WOW!

    I've used W+ before but I thought of using JVZoo just to try them
    out and Boy! was I impressed!

    The only thing that JVzoo can't make is tracking what page and line
    number your WSO is on in the WSO thread.

    But it makes up for it for sooo many things.

    Plus the excellent and responsive customer service. It's
    the icing on the cake.

    ++++++ on JVZoo
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    • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
      Are people using JVZoo Solely? For some reason, I seem to see people using both at the same time.

      How is that possible?

      CT
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

        Are people using JVZoo Solely? For some reason, I seem to see people using both at the same time.

        How is that possible?

        CT
        You can use 20 buy buttons on a WSO. It doesn't matter as long as the product gets delivered in the end.

        These people are probably using both to attract a larger pool of affiliates. However, that's pretty messed up. If I send someone via a JVZoo link and they buy via WSOPro, I just lost my commission. I would personally stay away from WSO's like that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
          Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

          You can use 20 buy buttons on a WSO. It doesn't matter as long as the product gets delivered in the end.

          These people are probably using both to attract a larger pool of affiliates. However, that's pretty messed up. If I send someone via a JVZoo link and they buy via WSOPro, I just lost my commission. I would personally stay away from WSO's like that.
          Right yes, you and I are saying the same thing, even though I didn't word it clearly. You voiced the entirety of the issue.

          CT
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          • Profile picture of the author zerofill
            Jeremy and I have been using jvzoo also... been working great! Also had a few different things I needed to do to implement it with a couple other sites we have. They added the feature in like less than 24 hours to make it possible!
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  • Profile picture of the author SirBertram
    When I was a newbie I decided not to be an affiliate because the affiliate programs I found had SERIOUS FLAWS!

    Thanks to JVZoo that's all been fixed and I LOVE promoting and listing products there!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
    As a seller I think JVZoo is leaps and bounds ahead of warrior+. The ease of their system , the way affiliates are taken care of for you, the payment splits are better on sales...etc etc. IMO warrior+ is in for some serious competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author aminur
    JVZoo is awesome They rock
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  • Profile picture of the author jacksonlin
    So if you had a new internet marketing product, would you recommend putting it on:

    1. Clickbank
    2. JV Zoo
    3. Both?
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  • Profile picture of the author cwrinco
    JVZOO seems to be very popular wtih sellers but what about buyers? For me it sucks! No customer service for customers, no support for customers, and no way to resolve an issue unless you have a recent purchase with them.

    My issue is that I can't get a purchase through their system and there's nobody to help. I will never use them for purchases and now especially for sales of my products and services.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      Originally Posted by cwrinco View Post


      My issue is that I can't get a purchase through their system and there's nobody to help. I will never use them for purchases and now especially for sales of my products and services.
      We have a 24 hour support staff and if you had sent in a ticket you would have got a reply. We just checked, and we have no tickets from you.


      We're showing you have made two purchases as well and have accessed both downloads, so you must have got through at some point. For support about the products you purchased, the vendors contact information is located on the download page. Please put in a ticket at JVZoo Support Desk and we'll be glad to take a look at what ever problem you're having for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
    Hi fellow warriors,

    I'm planning on launching my first ever WSO next week and have a hard time deciding which payment platform to go .. W+ or JVZoo

    Lots of people are saying that W+ will give you lots of "top" affiliates from WF and if you're not using W+ you'll be missing out on all these affiliates.

    Nonetheless, after reading https://www.jvzoo.com/compare i think JVZoo is also a good place to start..

    Until now i'm still in dilemma .. so please share with me your thoughts and experiences ..

    Your comments to this thread will be very much appreciated,

    Thank you all in advanced,
    Jeremiah

    P.S. God bless you
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      Yeah thanks I have seen that thread
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    • Profile picture of the author Simmeon
      I would say JVZOO, unless you like paying $ each time you want to release a new WSO. Plus affiliates on W+ need to pay for the privilege.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeDRL
      JvZoo all the way.
      No upfront cost, just 5% fee or 17$ one-time fee.
      No cost for affiliates...

      The benefits are simply too huge to pass. If you are afraid about big affiliates, consider that they will probably swithc over to JVZoo in the future because of their instant payment structure.

      They don't need to make two sales to get paid, they get instantly paid to their PayPal account.

      Be happy, be successful,
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      • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
        Originally Posted by JoeDRL View Post

        JvZoo all the way.
        No upfront cost, just 5% fee or 17$ one-time fee.
        No cost for affiliates...

        The benefits are simply too huge to pass. If you are afraid about big affiliates, consider that they will probably swithc over to JVZoo in the future because of their instant payment structure.

        They don't need to make two sales to get paid, they get instantly paid to their PayPal account.

        Be happy, be successful,
        ~ JoeDRL
        I'd consider myself a "big" affiliate... (I was the first to earn 100k on a single promotion in the IM space) and the PayPal instant payments is one big reason I would AVOID using JVZoo.

        There is NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to risk my PayPal account on someone else's product. I don't see why this instant payment thing matters at all... but this is coming from the perspective of a guy who doesn't need the money right away.

        Personally, I don't like split payments, or instant payments... collect the payments, process your refunds, and pay me after the refund window is closed.

        This puts you, the seller, at less risk because you can process all your refunds... it puts me, the affiliate, in a better position because I'm not forced to deal with your clients, and I don't have the liability of having to put my account at risk based on your sales claims... and, you could update the sales page at any minute, without my knowledge, which could completely screw me.

        -Gary Ambrose

        P.S. If you need payment instantly, you're dealing with the wrong product owners...

        You should NEVER be scared that you won't get paid by someone running an affiliate program. If you have any concerns about getting paid, why in the world would you promote their product in the first place... why send your subscribers to a product managed by someone that you don't trust yourself?
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        • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
          Sorry we won't be seeing you there then Gary, but it's not quite the problem you seem to think it is. The adaptive payment process (not a rotation) was built by Paypal specifically for affiliates to use. You as the affiliate never have contact with the buyer, the receipts always come from the seller and you are simply paid you "cut" after the buyer has paid the seller from the sellers account. You don't even exists as far as the buyer is concerned (Minus the terms of use policy, earnings disclaimer on your site or email, etc).

          If it was that big of a "risk", which it's not considering the thousands of people who run their programs on JVZoo, W+, RAP, Digi and others every single day, Paypal would simply close them all down for using such systems.

          There was a 6 weeks process to even get approved to build the system through their adaptive payments.

          We've even had a group of Clickbank power sellers move over because of how bad Clickbank's refund policies are and their fines they are dishing out because of them. These's guys refund percent since switching? Less than 2% which is a HUGE drop from Clickbank. Why is that? Because Clickbank will give you a refund if you feel like you didn't find your shoes in enough time this morning or what ever other silly reason people come up with. In Paypal, you have a chance to fight it, black list them through JVZoo so they can't buy and just a ton of other options Paypal gives you.

          You may not like these systems, but as you can already tell, it's something that's not going away anytime soon. More and more people are going to be wanting to get paid up front and actually search out affiliate programs that do pay that way since it's available.
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          • Profile picture of the author jackheape
            Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

            Sorry we won't be seeing you there then Gary, but it's not quite the problem you seem to think it is. The adaptive payment process (not a rotation) was built by Paypal specifically for affiliates to use. You as the affiliate never have contact with the buyer, the receipts always come from the seller and you are simply paid you "cut" after the buyer has paid the seller from the sellers account. You don't even exists as far as the buyer is concerned (Minus the terms of use policy, earnings disclaimer on your site or email, etc).

            If it was that big of a "risk", which it's not considering the thousands of people who run their programs on JVZoo, W+, RAP, Digi and others every single day, Paypal would simply close them all down for using such systems.

            There was a 6 weeks process to even get approved to build the system through their adaptive payments.

            We've even had a group of Clickbank power sellers move over because of how bad Clickbank's refund policies are and their fines they are dishing out because of them. These's guys refund percent since switching? Less than 2% which is a HUGE drop from Clickbank. Why is that? Because Clickbank will give you a refund if you feel like you didn't find your shoes in enough time this morning or what ever other silly reason people come up with. In Paypal, you have a chance to fight it, black list them through JVZoo so they can't buy and just a ton of other options Paypal gives you.

            You may not like these systems, but as you can already tell, it's something that's not going away anytime soon. More and more people are going to be wanting to get paid up front and actually search out affiliate programs that do pay that way since it's available.
            I have made my feelings as a BUYER known in other threads. However, you are wrong about the refund issue. Right now I am trying to get a refund. I contacted the seller and he sent me the affiliates email. I emailed the affiliate who I purchased through, 2x, and never received an answer. Now the charge is in dispute at Paypal. Now I say you are wrong. Maybe the seller is misleading me. But I could not find any link on the offer in Jvzoo to request a refund. So I have to go to the seller. Moreover, you have to, as a buyer, open an account on JVzoo. I assume so that they can market direct to the buyer, which they do. (In effect, you as the marketer, just gave away your list.) On the details purchase page, they list the transaction ID, and the sellers name (the affiliate) but no email. They do list the product support email.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt Chrisler
              I just ran my first offer on JVZoo and I have to say that I am very impressed with their platform. It is very easy to use and so far my affiliates seem to be happy with it as well.

              I actually like that they don't have as many products right now because if you have a hot offer and it is a top 10 seller for the day you tend to have numerous affiliates start promoting it without even contacting them. WarriorPlus has so many offers you tend to get lost in the mix in my opinion.

              A couple pointers..When listing your product I would ALWAYS opt for the flat fee instead of the 5% per sale. I personally didn't see this option when I listed my product and after selling around 300 copies so far the flat fee would have been MUCH cheaper.

              With the Paypal adaptive payments, You (the vendor) are actually paying the affiliates so you will need to collect tax information from your affiliates which can be a headache.

              As far as JVZoo getting the email address of all your buyers, that is definitely a negative and it would be nice if you had an option to bypass this. However, so far I've only seen them promote other JVZoo offers (I would hope it stays that way).

              But overall, I plan on offering many more products in the future on the JVZoo platform and personally prefer it over WarriorPlus.
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              • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
                Originally Posted by Kurt Chrisler View Post

                As far as JVZoo getting the email address of all your buyers. so far I've only seen them promote other JVZoo offers (I would hope it stays that way).

                But overall, I plan on offering many more products in the future on the JVZoo platform and personally prefer it over WarriorPlus.
                That's all it is and all it will ever be. That list only see's the Product Of The Day offering just like W+ does. No relationship building emails, no outside the network products, no webinars, etc. The vendors have the opportunity to get product of the day and not one of them who has had it has been upset about it

                Glad you had a good experience Kurt, looking forward to working more with you.
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              Originally Posted by jackheape View Post

              I have made my feelings as a BUYER known in other threads. However, you are wrong about the refund issue. Right now I am trying to get a refund. I contacted the seller and he sent me the affiliates email. I emailed the affiliate who I purchased through, 2x, and never received an answer. Now the charge is in dispute at Paypal. Now I say you are wrong. Maybe the seller is misleading me. But I could not find any link on the offer in Jvzoo to request a refund. So I have to go to the seller. Moreover, you have to, as a buyer, open an account on JVzoo. I assume so that they can market direct to the buyer, which they do. (In effect, you as the marketer, just gave away your list.) On the details purchase page, they list the transaction ID, and the sellers name (the affiliate) but no email. They do list the product support email.

              No, he's not wrong about the refund issue. I'm pretty sure Brian's one of the owners or investors and obviously knows exactly how their refund system works.

              If the JVZoo seller is telling you to go the affiliate, it's the seller who has no clue. Affiliates CANNOT process refunds for any product they sold as an affiliate through JVZoo. You need to remind the seller that he is the only one who has the power and control to refund, whether the sale came through an affiliate or not. That's just how the adaptive payment process works. Affiliates have zero control over that. Zero.
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            • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
              Originally Posted by jackheape View Post

              I have made my feelings as a BUYER known in other threads. However, you are wrong about the refund issue.

              No Jack, I'm sorry but you are wrong. Affiliates have absolutely no control of refunds being processed. The vendors handle that and when they do process one, the affiliate commissions is pulled back at the same time. Sorry, but the vendor is either honestly misinformed, or messing with you.
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        • Profile picture of the author zapseo
          Originally Posted by Gary_The_Ace View Post

          I'd consider myself a "big" affiliate... (I was the first to earn 100k on a single promotion in the IM space) and the PayPal instant payments is one big reason I would AVOID using JVZoo.

          There is NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to risk my PayPal account on someone else's product. I don't see why this instant payment thing matters at all... but this is coming from the perspective of a guy who doesn't need the money right away.

          Personally, I don't like split payments, or instant payments... collect the payments, process your refunds, and pay me after the refund window is closed.

          This puts you, the seller, at less risk because you can process all your refunds... it puts me, the affiliate, in a better position because I'm not forced to deal with your clients, and I don't have the liability of having to put my account at risk based on your sales claims... and, you could update the sales page at any minute, without my knowledge, which could completely screw me.

          -Gary Ambrose

          P.S. If you need payment instantly, you're dealing with the wrong product owners...

          You should NEVER be scared that you won't get paid by someone running an affiliate program. If you have any concerns about getting paid, why in the world would you promote their product in the first place... why send your subscribers to a product managed by someone that you don't trust yourself?
          All kinds of reasons.

          Gary -- you've seriously GOT to be kidding me. I know you've been around the block. And I KNOW you've heard about big launches where affiliates didn't get paid.

          Even presumably the "best" affiliate programs have issues.

          I got a notice last year (or 2010, forget which) from the Treasurer of the Great State of California that they were holding some money for me. Over $500!

          From ClickBank.

          From 2007.

          I haven't moved in over 20 years.

          They closed my affiliate account for lack of activity. Hmmmm.... What's wrong with this picture.

          So ... can't really blame some folks.

          I hear there might be some affiliates from a HUGE launch who are still waiting to get paid. I bet the people who bought through the various' affiliate links still expected their bonuses.

          Reality in the IM world.

          Live JoyFully!

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    • Profile picture of the author Andy B
      My recent wso's have all been with jvzoo and have worked out great, especially with the recent 6,500 dollar contest they had!

      They are not quite as big as w+ for affiliates YET I feel, but in the near future they will rock it on every level, go with jvzoo is my advice!

      Also, I'd pay the $17 listing fee instead of 5% if you think your product is going to pay well, I made the mistake of not wanting to risk a measly $17 and paid out more in the 5% program

      Hope that gives you an idea on who to choose!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Based on the way W+ handled their bug/hacking issue last year, I personally don't trust them. Yes, that's a personal opinion. The people behind W+ do things that I (again, personally) find shady (such as not making it clear enough that there is no connection to the WF).

      I also know for a fact that the people behind JVZoo are very concerned about a good user experience (for both product creators and affiliates). Testing is important to them and they are top-notch when it comes to real customer service.

      That being said, while JVZoo may not have as many people signed up at this point, they are still the better service overall. My belief is that JVZoo will continue to build a bigger following as more and more people have poor experiences with their top competitor.

      All the best,
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

        Based on the way W+ handled their bug/hacking issue last year, I personally don't trust them. Yes, that's a personal opinion. The people behind W+ do things that I (again, personally) find shady (such as not making it clear enough that there is no connection to the WF).
        That's exactly my opinion, too - so I naturally suggest JVZoo, Jeremiah, of the two.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
      I like what I have hear about JVZoo and am going with them for my upcoming WSO's. I didn't make the decision based on price though.

      WSO = $19 and JVZoo = $17 (similar pricing) JVZ is a little better. I wasn't interested in giving them 5% of every sale because in most cases that will be much more than $17 so I am comparing the flat cost of each service against each other.

      The reasons I am going with JVZ are:

      1. I like how payments are made and what they do on refunds as well.
      2. I like how it's free for affiliates to join and sell my products. Even if more people are with WSO+, they can also promote JVZ stuff and do it for free.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Paul Gram View Post

        WSO = $19 and JVZoo = $17 (similar pricing) JVZ is a little better. I wasn't interested in giving them 5% of every sale because in most cases that will be much more than $17 so I am comparing the flat cost of each service against each other.
        Well, 5% of each sale isn't exactly free. If you have $2K in sales, that's $100. $1K in sales is $50.

        If you go for the flat fee, they're close to the same, with Warrior Plus having a great deal more listings and affiliates promoting the offers.

        I haven't tried it out for a listing, but have promoted some of the offers, but I also promote Warrior Plus offers.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph G Spiteri
          Interesting thread everyone look like jvz is winning haven't tried either so can't comment.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Leauge
      I would agree with you JVZoo is a good place to start out. Especially if your on a fixed budget. With all the costs that come with Warrior +. JVZoo is where most newbies should start from a cost perspective. When You earn money from your first WSO then you can upgrade to Warrior +. Start small and grow big.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      I recently ran a private launch using JVZoo and the experience was all positive. I'll be using them again very soon, for a WSO this time. It's very easy to get started, but if you find anything you're unsure of there are video tutorials to clear it right up.

      Two thumbs up!
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
      JVZoo all the way.

      I couldn't be happier with them. Wait, I take that back - If they had an option that allowed you to 'test purchase' your product to make sure everything works correctly, that would make me a lot happier.

      Hopefully they see this thread & decide to add that feature

      lol but other than that, I love them.
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    • Profile picture of the author perfectlovehere
      I don't think I've ever heard of JVZoo before now. Thanks for letting me know about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
        Originally Posted by perfectlovehere View Post

        I don't think I've ever heard of JVZoo before now. Thanks for letting me know about it.
        Only heard about it yesterday myself, sounds too good NOT to check out. Glad I found these comments on here since I've been working pretty hard over the last few weeks to bring out a new product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jeffries
      Thanks for the comments. I think in the future when I launch my first WSO, I'll probably be using JVZoo myself
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
    I'm looking to launch my first WSO next week.. and my main goal for this WSO is to look for affiliateS to promote my offer.. So which will be your recommendations? looking forward to hear your replies?

    1) Warrior+
    2) JVZoo

    ???
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I didn't mention this in my previous post because I wasn't sure if it applied to everyone, but I've since learned that it does (at the time of this posting), but:

    If you do a WSO now using JVZoo as the payment processor they'll refund the cost of the WSO to you. You can't beat that -- it's like getting a free WSO listing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    @ Dennis, yep. They paid for mine.

    Its seriously a risk-free opportunity. You'd have to be a fool NOT to try it.

    And I must say, the experience has been nothing short of amazing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShivaLingam
    There are 3 main differences between JvZoo and Warrior+

    Difference #1: JvZoo gives you a split commission for every sale, while Warrior+ gives the first commission to the seller and the next to you, and so on maintaining a quota the most similar to the commission (example of a 75% commission: 1st sale goes to the seller, 2nd, 3rd and 4th commission to you, then seller again and so on)
    Difference #2: Warrior+ has 100 times more products, plus there are at least 20 new products added each day (almost all the WSO that come out).
    Difference #3: JvZoo is Free, Warrior+ costs less than 4$/month for an affiliate.

    So you can choose between the two, but in my opinion is best to get them both
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    JVZoo is tight man. Plus like another guy said, look at the responsiveness in the forums..

    I've been waiting for months for Mike to reply to my question about WSOPro. Still nothing.

    That isnt the case with JVZoo. These people are actively checking the threads & answering questions, hell they are even (at this time) paying for your WSO listing for you.

    But I cant even get a damn response from Mike. So no thanks, I'll go with JVZoo over WSOPro any day.

    I'll gladly let them take 5% of each sale. I dont care. lol and I'm sure they dont mind receiving it They will probably invest it to make the site even better over time, so why would I care about giving them 5 dollars for every 100 they let me run thru them? duh.. lol

    PS, people seem to think JVZoo is small.. man, trust me their platform is stable. They run some huge numbers without any problems. Everything runs like clockwork.

    And ya, they are steadily growing. Just try them, you'll be glad you did.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      Originally Posted by Garry Parkes View Post


      1.Is PayPal OK with this immediate & split payment process system where both the affiliate and the vendor get paid instantly for the sale? If there is any risk here with PayPal looking at it unfavourably then it is a show-stopper for me using it.
      Paypal preferres it to happen this way and they built adaptive payments just for this reason because of how the receipts are handled between buyer and vendor. It's not something we built, it's something Paypal themselves created (not JVZoo, but adaptive payments)

      On a rotation, the buyer can get a receipt from the affiliate if it was "their turn" in the payment rotation and now your buyer potentially has a customer support nightmare because the only contact they have is that affiliate. Now if they file a complaint and the affiliate doesn't want to refund, it's bad on your as the vendor and you can still have to wind up paying them back to save face even though you got no money. Not to mention the fact Paypal doesn't like buyer to jump through hoops to get support from the original person who was selling it.

      There's much more of a risk using rotations with potential problems than there is instant split.

      Originally Posted by Garry Parkes View Post

      2. When the customer gets the one receipt I guess this is for the full purchase price but does it also show as one transaction in their PayPal account history?
      The customer only get's one receipt and only sees one transaction. They get a receipt from YOU the vendor and as far as they are concerned there is no affiliate even in the picture (minus the affiliates compliance with affiliate documentation in their emails and earnings disclaimers)

      Originally Posted by Garry Parkes View Post

      3. If they request a refund how is that handled? I know me as a seller can go into my PayPal account and issue a refund but do we have to contact the affiliate to do the same?
      No, inside your JVZoo account, you simply click on the product, click on the receipt number and click the refund button. This then goes and takes the commission from the affiliate, bring it back to your account and the money is sent back to the buyer requesting the refund. This all happens instantly and it simply shows you as the vendor have given the buyer their refund. Takes about 2 seconds to do and all takes place inside JVZoo.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackheape
    Researching JVZoo and came across this. Perhaps for a Seller this is a great platform. Hoever, as a Buyer, it is missing one, big, huge, feature. There is no way to read reviews on a product or comment on it. I have bought 3 products through JVZoo as of this date and they all 3 suck. Problems with every one, over promoted, issues with programming. So essentially, there is no feedback, and no way to know if the product is as advertised. One thing is, I bought the first one from an individual who I ahd purchased from before. Then JVzoo got my my email and started promoting to me for other products. Now if the product is listed on the Warrior Forum and you just pay through JVzoo, that is probably ok. I will not buy direct from JVzoo again.
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    • Profile picture of the author ddev
      Originally Posted by jackheape View Post

      Researching JVZoo and came across this. Perhaps for a Seller this is a great platform. Hoever, as a Buyer, it is missing one, big, huge, feature. There is no way to read reviews on a product or comment on it. I have bought 3 products through JVZoo as of this date and they all 3 suck. Problems with every one, over promoted, issues with programming. So essentially, there is no feedback, and no way to know if the product is as advertised. One thing is, I bought the first one from an individual who I ahd purchased from before. Then JVzoo got my my email and started promoting to me for other products. Now if the product is listed on the Warrior Forum and you just pay through JVzoo, that is probably ok. I will not buy direct from JVzoo again.

      Let me remark one thing you've mentioned (thing that i've tested and that it's NOT good for vendors):

      They (JVZoo) get the emails from customers that belong to YOU (the VENDOR) and then starts mailing them OTHER offers from their marketplace!!! (offers that you as a vendor may not even promote / endorse). Vendors Beware of this.

      So, they're using YOUR Customers (hot prospects which just bought something online from YOU) to make money selling other offers from the JVZoo marketplace, not to mention that you WON'T get a penny from those sales ( can upload some saved stats from a test).

      It's Good for them, not so good for you. Here i wrote about this:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/internet-marketing-product-reviews-ratings/543726-any-you-had-any-experience-jvzoo-com.html#post5649375

      Your customers are yours. And they don't have rights to take advantage of the sales you make to start sending them other offers unless you opt for this.

      I've been using different platforms like Click2sell.eu and many others and can't remember something similar. What is worst, we're talking about a PAID service so they shouldn't touch your customers (beyond something strictly related to customer support).

      Everything looked promising but this thing alone made me stay away from JVZoo. Hope they change this "good deal" for those who sell products there.

      Best Regards,

      Diego.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marc Harty
        I've counted at least 3 threads on JV Zoo. I must admit I was considering Clickbank but was really impressed and 99% sure about going with JV Zoo.

        HOWEVER, Diego's concerns not only gave me pause but are an immediate dealbreaker.

        So let me see if I have this right...

        JV Zoo captures the email address of MY customer and then in turn uses that for their own purposes and markets OTHER JV Zoo products from the marketplace? Are you kidding me?

        Am I also right in that the only way to turn this off is if the customer says NO to updates? Which in itself is very deceptive, since they're likely to assume they are selecting updates to MY product, not other JV Zoo offers.

        I'd appreciate some feedback from other JV Zoo users if these two items are in fact the case. And if so, why haven't more JV Zoo sellers other than Diego mentioned it before?

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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
        Originally Posted by ddev View Post

        Let me remark one thing you've mentioned (thing that i've tested and that it's NOT good for vendors):

        They (JVZoo) get the emails from customers that belong to YOU (the VENDOR) and then starts mailing them OTHER offers from their marketplace!!!
        No different than what W+ has been doing for years now. The difference is they are much sneakier about it than we are. We're upfront about, give two options to opt out. One on the checkout page, and one in the email they immediately get telling them they'll hear from us and if they don't want to, opt out now.

        There is a way to opt out of it. simply click the button that says "make my product eligible for product of the day" and you're out. Simple as that. But if you've sold on W+ and you didn't know this was already happening to you........well
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        • Profile picture of the author ddev
          Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

          No different than what W+ has been doing for years now. The difference is they are much sneakier about it than we are. We're upfront about, give two options to opt out. One on the checkout page, and one in the email they immediately get telling them they'll hear from us and if they don't want to, opt out now.

          There is a way to opt out of it. simply click the button that says "make my product eligible for product of the day" and you're out. Simple as that. But if you've sold on W+ and you didn't know this was already happening to you........well

          1. Never sold on W+ so i can't talk about them (but have used different platforms that don't do that). What it counts is that seems that you're doing things better, or not? What they do should be their problem. Imho, think that you should offer something better (and more transparent) but not keep with the old tricks that others may do. Your platform looks really well and think that you don't need to oclude it with something like this.

          One comment:

          Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

          That's all it is and all it will ever be. That list only see's the Product Of The Day offering just like W+ does. No relationship building emails, no outside the network products, no webinars, etc.....
          .... You're doing business with this (otherwise you wouldn't be sending those mails). Just to make things clear. It's not bad, but you should have the consent from the vendor (even if W+ is doing without it).

          2. The "Updates" checkbox that appears on the checkout page is absolutely tricky. Customers think that they will receive updates from vendors, >>> not from JVZoo.

          3. Do you mean that unchecking the "make my product elegible...." will turn > your mailing (of any offer) to customers off? Why there's no documentation about this? Turning off this option shouldn't be a mistery.

          Will this disable the tricky "Updates" checkbox (mentioned on point 2), that appears on checkbox?? If not, why is there and what is the customer supposed to receive with that?

          Finally, i think that mailing to customers that belong to vendors is a good business for you and there's no reason to stay away from it, but with consent. Maybe you can offer an incentive to vendors who opt to share their customers with you etc (could be more fair and reasonable), but the important thing is that vendors should have the control of this.

          Overall, your system is very good (beyond some lack of documentation and no way to make test transactions - to test the paypal ipn) and i really wanted to use it until i found this. Think this is the most negative thing it has (from my perspective) but doing something with it will surely make it a better platform.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
            Originally Posted by ddev View Post

            3. Do you mean that unchecking the "make my product elegible...." will turn > your mailing (of any offer) to customers off? Why there's no documentation about this? Turning off this option shouldn't be a mistery.

            Will this disable the tricky "Updates" checkbox (mentioned on point 2), that appears on checkbox?? If not, why is there and what is the customer supposed to receive with that?
            Yes, uncheck that box that makes your product eligible for Product Of The Day and they don't get added. No matter if they leave the checkmark on the checkout page or not. You'll still get them, but we won't. But, your product will not be eligible for Product Of The Day Either. The gentleman that got it today I can promise you isn't complaining about winning it
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        • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
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          Originally Posted by ddev
          Let me remark one thing you've mentioned (thing that i've tested and that it's NOT good for vendors):

          They (JVZoo) get the emails from customers that belong to YOU (the VENDOR) and then starts mailing them OTHER offers from their marketplace!!!
          Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

          No different than what W+ has been doing for years now. The difference is they are much sneakier about it than we are. We're upfront about, give two options to opt out. One on the checkout page, and one in the email they immediately get telling them they'll hear from us and if they don't want to, opt out now.

          There is a way to opt out of it. simply click the button that says "make my product eligible for product of the day" and you're out. Simple as that. But if you've sold on W+ and you didn't know this was already happening to you........well
          I have a big problem with this.

          PRIVACY AND SPAM ISSUES

          The consent to send an email should be expressly provided by the buyer (whose personal email you are using to send marketing messages) as well as from the seller (who is your customer and paying for your service).

          Looking at the JV Zoo privacy policy anyone buying through JV Zoo agrees their email can be shared with others. Under Section 3 about using information that is collected, it can be:

          (d) shared with other reputable organizations to help them contact consumers for marketing purposes;
          (e) used by us to contact consumers for marketing purposes.
          Bryan and EBR, I like both of you and before you note the reference to "reputable" companies and anything you do to try and weed out spammers, we've all been around the block for a number of years and know what happens to email addresses once they are released.

          You "share" (i.e., sell) my email to X to market their products. Later X sells it to Y, who packages it and sells it to spammers on Black Hat forums.

          This is a spammer's policy.

          This also means a JV Zoo seller may not be able to offer a privacy policy promising protection of personal emails because JV Zoo does not keep it private.

          If a seller does promise privacy they could be sued for fraud.

          I've clicked through a number of JV Zoo marketplace pages and on the order page there is no option for a buyer to opt-out of letting JV Zoo send them marketing messages, and no option to prevent JV Zoo from sharing their email with whoever.


          IMPROPER COMPETITION WITH CUSTOMERS

          My personal view is that JVZoo needs to decide what role it wants to play: Processor. Marketplace provider. Product seller. Affiliate. It can't seek to wear all hats.

          Otherwise, what happens is JV Zoo ends up competing with its customers.

          For example, if I list a legal product on JV Zoo I really don't want JV Zoo to be marketing competing products to my buyers.

          It could generate refunds. It can bite into a back-end. It most certainly looks bad.

          Or JV Zoo "shares" buyer information and suddenly their "reputable" marketer, who may in fact be reputable, is emailing my customers for their competitive product with a table explaining why they think their product is better.

          It's not right and an invitation for litigation.

          Although WarriorPlus has its own issues, I have never received an email from WarriorPlus unless it was for a (1) wso alert I specifically requested identifying a new product offering from a seller, or (2) confirmation of a purchase.

          That's it.

          I've even had unique email addresses used only one time for a WSO purchase through WarriorPlus so I would know if there is a spam issue. There hasn't been.


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          Bottom line: I think JV Zoo has great potential and feature wise is very exciting and enticing for a number of reasons.

          But in the dash to grow fast, be viral, and collect emails to build a list the ramifications, and turn-offs and legal risks have not been well thought through.

          Really? If Bob buys one of my legal products is it so critical that JV Zoo markets IM products to Bob (who may perceive IM products to be 'scammy'), or shares his email with someone marketing IM products?

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          • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
            Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post


            You "share" (i.e., sell) my email to X to market their products. Later X sells it to Y, who packages it and sells it to spammers on Black Hat forums.


            I've clicked through a number of JV Zoo marketplace pages and on the order page there is no option for a buyer to opt-out of letting JV Zoo send them marketing messages, and no option to prevent JV Zoo from sharing their email with whoever.
            Let me clear one thing up right now as I can see how you might think that with how that section is worded. We DO NOT sell, rent, give away, share or anything like that the emails of the people who register, who purchase, use or even visit our network with any outside company. No, no and hell no. Yes I'm very aware of what happens when people do that and there's plenty of people who do bull**** like that with their unsubs. Hell no, we don't do that. I'll leave that part at that

            There is opt out features on the check out page. Un-check the box that says be notified of updates and they're not added. IF that stays checked, they get an email immediately that tells them we will send them stuff and if they don't want to receive it, please opt out now.

            There is a third feature again that lets the vendor decide for themselves if they want to be eligible for POTD or not. If they select to not be eligible, then no collection takes place. We're not competing, we're giving vendors an opportunity to make a few hundred extra sales by winning the award. I understand not everyone looks at it like that, but I can tell you everyone who has got it wasn't upset about winning it

            Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

            Bottom line: I think JV Zoo has great potential and feature wise is very exciting and enticing for a number of reasons.
            Thanks, I know you don't mince words so that's nice to hear. I also understand your other points as well.
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          Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

          No different than what W+ has been doing for years now. The difference is they are much sneakier about it than we are. We're upfront about, give two options to opt out. One on the checkout page, and one in the email they immediately get telling them they'll hear from us and if they don't want to, opt out now.
          I bought some stuff that was using JVzoo for product delivery and the checkbox on the checkout pages asked if I want to receive updates (at the bottom of Terms for Sale list already checked). Yes - I want to receive updates for the product I just bought, not for receiving affiliate offers from JVZoo. That is still sneaky.

          Your Thank You email was too long to read and was irrelevant to my purchase. After it said I would get an email with download instructions it got deleted.

          At no stage was I asked if I want to receive offers from JVzoo unless you class that ambiguous "I would like to be notified of updates" checkbox in the context of a product sale as permission.

          As a buyer it annoys me but as a vendor I ask myself why would I pay for a product delivery service that becomes my competition for my own customer. Warrior+ might do it but others don't.
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          • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
            Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

            Your Thank You email was too long to read and was irrelevant to my purchase. After it said I would get an email with download instructions it got deleted.
            I honestly don't know what to tell you there. We send it immediately so you read it, not to read the first couple lines and delete it. Had you done so, you would have clearly seen it tells you we will notify you of products and to opt out should you not want to see them.


            Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

            as a vendor I ask myself why would I pay for a product delivery service that becomes my competition for my own customer. Warrior+ might do it but others don't.
            We only send out the Product Of The Day Winner, that's it. No other promotions, webinars, products, hot selling things, etc etc. Product Of The Day and that's it, not a competition. The vendors who have won it for the day certainly don't look at it as competition. They enjoy the extra few hundred sales it brings them.
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    I understand that it is a payment processing system. The point I was making was that JVzoo now solicits via email for the products listed there. So if you buy direct off of their listing page, you do not get the benefit of the Warrior Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackheape
    As a payment processor, I am NOT disparaging JVzoo. As a BUYER I am saying if you BUY direct from JVzoo, in my opinion, you are missing out. There is no forum. There are no reviews, other than what the seller puts up there. There is NO indication of the problems the offer might be having. In summary, yes this platform, as is, benefits the seller, but not the buyer.
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  • Profile picture of the author hitesh93
    Been waiting on the recurring billing option for a while now. I was told it'd be out in the first week of Jan and then 3 weeks ago it was mentioned that it'd be out 'this week', but nothing yet - do you have a solid date on it yet?
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    Thanks for pointing out Jvzoo had no idea it existed, looks pretty interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author rashamba
    I have been searching the forum and jvz website and could not find an answer so I will ask here. If I am setting up a product that goes to my thanks page with an oto, do I have my oto on the download page of the main product? I am wondering if I have an oto if jvzoo automatically sends traffic there first before? Hope that makes sense. Just trying to figure out what I need to put on my thanks/download pages using this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      Originally Posted by rashamba View Post

      I have been searching the forum and jvz website and could not find an answer so I will ask here. If I am setting up a product that goes to my thanks page with an oto, do I have my oto on the download page of the main product? I am wondering if I have an oto if jvzoo automatically sends traffic there first before? Hope that makes sense. Just trying to figure out what I need to put on my thanks/download pages using this.
      They will automatically be sent to your OTO after they purchase your front end product. If they refuse the OTO, simply link your "no thanks" link to jvzoo.com/nothanks and you're good to go.
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      • Profile picture of the author rashamba
        In the setup I don't see anything about a no thanks link from jvz. I have setup now so buyers get thank you page with oto and link to original purchase at bottom. I see there is a place to put your external OTO page, but mine is already on the Thank You page with the OTO buy button. I should not nedd an external OTO url in addition should I?

        Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

        They will automatically be sent to your OTO after they purchase your front end product. If they refuse the OTO, simply link your "no thanks" link to jvzoo.com/nothanks and you're good to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    I prefer Warrior Plus myself.

    SOOO MUCH TRACKING!!!! Love it.

    And it allows you to track the thread really well too keeping track of what a visitor is worth. Pretty amazing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    I have used W+ and have nothing bad to say about it but admit I have not used it enough to really have an opinion.

    JV Zoo could easily be the only tool a beginner marketer would need to make money online. Add in the Fact they can integrate Get Response into the funnel and there is no reason why anyone could not use JVZ as a full business model.

    You have the ability to use their host for the sales page .. can actually use hidden sales pages for oto ... or use the autoresponder option .. send the traffic to a squeeze page .. sales page .. oto.

    You could even get just a little creative and use hidden pages to offer the main offer with a group of options or several offers with options on the main page as well as the oto.

    Now add in the fact you can offer incentives to really ramp up the affiliate traffic and you have really all you need. A sales page that can be edited in minutes and enough traffic to figure out what works conversion wise.

    Just today (at least that is when I noticed it) they offered a lot more ways to qualify your affiliates .. the ability to pay immediately or when the refund period is over .. the opportunity to communicate with affiliates before accepting or denying.

    This works great because I have programs that have no refund available and can offer instant pay and I also have products that carry a refund period and I don't need to worry if affiliates clean out their paypal and leave me holding 100% of the bag on a 100% commission product.
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  • Profile picture of the author lindafulkerson
    I'm so glad I found this thread. I'm about to launch a new product and had planned to use another platform but after reading more about JVZoo, I plan to try this platform. Thanks to everyone who mentioned pros & cons of JVZoo!
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      One difference between the services is Warrior+ is tied into WSOs on the Warrior Forum and the offers are subject to moderation and of course user questions and reviews on the WSO thread.

      JVZoo on the other hand, has an index of offers and purchase links can be put on any website, including obviously the forum.

      There are advantages and disadvantages to this.

      For sellers JVZoo is like ClickBank and has a potentially bigger reach.

      On the other hand, I was just sent an email about a product listed on JVZoo that was banned from the Warrior Forum for fraud.

      "Zoo" might be the right word.

      It appears anything can be listed.

      Not only is there no option to report spam, fraud, or other problems with a product, seller, or affiliate, if you are a buyer the JVZoo "support" page essentially tells you to pound sand and provides no option to contact JVZoo.

      Call me Nostradamus, but this will need to change if JVZoo is planning on a long-term future.

      I can't think of any similar service with no rules and no option to submit complaints.

      One very interesting feature only in JVZoo to deal with scams is a Buyer's Blacklist. Scammers may find a way around this, but as a seller this is an important tool, especially for those selling in the IM niche.

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      • Profile picture of the author Marc Harty
        I'm at an event and had a chance to talk to a high level exec with Clickbank.

        I asked him some tough questions and was satisfied with his answers. For example, some of the things they're doing to eliminate crap products. He mentioned that a common tactic is switching salesletters once CB approves another version of one. It's obviously a never ending battle...

        Bottom line: I agree with many of the main points expressed by kindsvater. Whether it's emailing my customers other JVZoo offers and some of the privacy and support issues, I'm going with something that has a more proven track record. And that would be Clickbank.

        I'll be open to JVZoo in the future if some of of the more concerning issues are resolved.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post


        Not only is there no option to report spam, fraud, or other problems with a product, seller, or affiliate, if you are a buyer the JVZoo "support" page essentially tells you to pound sand and provides no option to contact JVZoo.
        We ask buyers to contact the vendors to get support for individual products they have purchased as we do not provide "product" support. Our help desk was over run by people asking questions about products they purchased, how to best use them, etc. That clogs up the help desk and is a time issue when trying to get to support tickets with legitimate concerns or problems.

        We do get tickets about complaints about product owners, spam and other concerns through the help desk and they are handled on a case by case basis. We've banned multiple people due to multiple issues that have come up.

        Obviously if we see there is a problem with a certain individual or issue we take care of it based on the evidence given to us. There's three links on the support page, two of those links have a link there that lets you submit a ticket, trust me, plenty of people have figured this out However, if you want specific product support, that is handled between the buyer and vendor. We give vendors a ton of tools to be able to handle any issue that arises such as resending receipts, etc.

        On another note, RECURRING was just integrated and now allows you to do trial offers as well as pay multiple percentages on your recurring set up.
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            Hi Jamison,

            That is actually the next feature that is being worked on right now, so we will have them for your shortly.
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              • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
                Originally Posted by Jamison Palmer View Post

                Nice! Any rough idea of when this will be available?
                Probably not for a couple weeks. We'll all be at the WF meetup in Raleigh this weekend and won't be back till tuesday. We're going to push out a clickbank style IPN system before we leave (hopefully) so anyone can integrate with any software they want that works with clickbank. Once we get back, then TID's will come out. But it is the next thing coming
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                  Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

                  Probably not for a couple weeks. We'll all be at the WF meetup in Raleigh this weekend and won't be back till tuesday. We're going to push out a clickbank style IPN system before we leave (hopefully) so anyone can integrate with any software they want that works with clickbank. Once we get back, then TID's will come out. But it is the next thing coming
                  Hmm.. 3 months later.. and it seems this feature is still not implemented .. agrrr.. how am I supposed to track individual campaigns with only an affiliate link?

                  These are the things I consider CRUCIAL:

                  1. Campaign and Conversion tracking based on Subids or Tagged URLs
                  2. A way to send traffic straight to the "payment page" thus bypassing the vendor's sales page (important when building custom landing pages and sending traffic through adwords PPC)

                  Any idea when this will finally be implemented?
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeff Hampton
              Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

              Hi Jamison,

              That is actually the next feature that is being worked on right now, so we will have them for your shortly.
              Has this been implemented yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    Did you ever release the ability to view each buyer's download history & all that stuff?

    I know you guys said that it would be released the day after I mentioned it, but I'm still not seeing anything like that anywhere in my account.

    I dunno if I'm just overlooking it, or if it hasn't been released yet.. So I figured I should ask. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    Here's what I don't get with JVZoo.

    The $17 fee as an option over the 5% per sale tax is only available for WSO listings. So, if I want a non WSO product on there giving 100% commissions to affiliates, will I end up paying all of the 5% for each affiliate sale???

    This somehow doesn't seem right.

    EDIT: I just got an answer on this. The 5% comes of the top end so the affiliate who is getting 100% commission will actually get 95%
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusri
    I've just know JVZoo...
    warrior+ make our wso proffesional, I like it..
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  • Profile picture of the author gautam42
    JV zoo - all the way............super flexible to market & individual customer needs.......Watch this company......its going to be a market leader one day.

    Next JvZ should also develop the gravity stats like Cb & also build a JVz Engine like CBengine.......then the roof is not the limit. ;0)
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  • Profile picture of the author Val Wilson
    I'm setting up a WSO and decided on JVZoo. I was putting through a test purchase just to make sure everything was running ok, through my own link (not an affiliate link), but when I checked my account the money had been paid to an affiliate - the affiliate being JVZoo.

    Turns out that all sales made through the JVZoo Marketplace are automatically affiliated to JVZoo

    Apparently this is in the terms & conditions I originally signed up to.

    Anyway, I can't decide if there is anything wrong with this or not, but it is definitely making me a bit uneasy. Seems a little sneaky that JVZ are acting as affiliates themselves rather than just an affiliate platform. I guess it's my own fault for not properly reading the terms and conditions, and even if I had it probably would not have stopped me trying them out.

    But it does seem to echo some of the concerns in this thread that JVZ is trying to be a little bit of everything, and get a piece of every pie.

    I'd be interested to know what others think of this - maybe there is nothing wrong with JVZ taking affiliate commissions from all Marketplace sales...
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  • Profile picture of the author TamilYoung
    It is interesting that in JVZoo, you don't get charged for every product you release. Perhaps, the reach would be better with WF. However, similar to WSO of the Day here, you have Product of the Day in JVZoo, which sends your offer to a considerable great list.
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  • Profile picture of the author braincandy7
    Has anyone who uses S2member for membership sites tried JVzoo yet?

    They told me a while back that they were working on making the two compatible but no news yet and no further updates so far as far as i know.
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  • Profile picture of the author towhidzaman
    ah!! found you at last.... I was looking for this thread from the deep of my heart.I'm going with JVZoo.I heard that W+ is better for getting more affiliate & also there's a better chance to be "WSO of the Day" but I found JVZoo much more simple but powerful platform.Though W+ is much more sounds like a dedicated platform for WSO ... but I'm finding JVZoo much more comfortable...So Thumbs up for JVZoo...
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    I was considering switching to JVZoo but decided against it after setting up a product on their platform for the following reasons:

    1) Couldn't figure out how to add bonuses to my product. I contacted support who said to package them in a zip file which customers would receive after purchase. I don't like that idea as it adds to confusion and it's much easier to have a nice clean download page with links to the main product and bonuses.

    2) Download page is way too busy. It took me a while to find the link to my product, way at the bottom and I can only imagine how tough it will be for my customers to find.

    3) Too many emails sent to buyer after purchase. I counted FOUR emails sent to me after I did a test purchase. Again, too confusing! One of them was a spammy email telling me how to promote JVZoo products. Not good for those outside of the IM niche.

    4) Could not utilize the $17 one off fee option. I wasn't clear whether or not this was only for WSO vendors, turns out it is. I don't want to be charged per transaction if I'm doing high volume. I much prefer a one off fee.

    5) Grammar errors all over the place. Just looks unprofessional. I'm a little picky about this.

    My two cents. Still looking for a superior affiliate platform that offers 100% instant PayPal commissions to affiliates after purchase AND a one off fee, not charged per transaction.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      I was considering switching to JVZoo but decided against it after setting up a product on their platform for the following reasons:

      1) Couldn't figure out how to add bonuses to my product. I contacted support who said to package them in a zip file which customers would receive after purchase. I don't like that idea as it adds to confusion and it's much easier to have a nice clean download page with links to the main product and bonuses.
      That's pretty simple actually. You have them listed on your download page. The only way you have to upload them is if you are having us deliver them for you. If you have a normal download page, you can have them listed how ever you want to.

      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      2) Download page is way too busy. It took me a while to find the link to my product, way at the bottom and I can only imagine how tough it will be for my customers to find.
      The big green button that says "access your purchase" is pretty easy to find. We can count the number of tickets on one hand asking about that out of hundreds of thousands of transactions.

      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      3) Too many emails sent to buyer after purchase. I counted FOUR emails sent to me after I did a test purchase. Again, too confusing! One of them was a spammy email telling me how to promote JVZoo products. Not good for those outside of the IM niche.
      You got two emails, not four. One with your login and password and one saying thank your for your purchase. Now, if you bought the OTO, then y ou would have gotten one more. But that "spammy" email simply tells you thanks for buying and if you don't want to receive any more information from us to unsubscribe now. Sorry, but I hardly call that spammy.

      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      4) Could not utilize the $17 one off fee option. I wasn't clear whether or not this was only for WSO vendors, turns out it is. I don't want to be charged per transaction if I'm doing high volume. I much prefer a one off fee.
      All networks charge you per transaction and we are far and away cheaper than most. Clickbank charges you 1.00 plus up to 7.5%. You can see our comparison chart for prices and charges compared to others.

      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      5) Grammar errors all over the place. Just looks unprofessional. I'm a little picky about this.
      Not much I can say here other than those need to get fixed. But we're marketers, not english majors and I prefer superior and proper functionality over grammer.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddev
    Hi @Christophe Young,

    I agree with everything you said. I think a superior platform should (and will) come but i don't think a one time payment would be the best solution, otherwise the sneaky things that have been described before will appear again as the site has to make money for a service they are giving every month. And $17 bucks they charge you once is nothing for a business (the money comes from other places of course).

    Maybe a flat fee per month could be another alternative but now we know that this "one time fee payment" model doesn't work. Instead, you end up working for those sites giving the emails of your customers.

    Best Regards,

    Diego.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Just read the rest of this thread.

    I have to agree that sending marketing emails to customers, especially those outside of the IM niche, is not a good idea.

    In this case you'll have old Mary, who just bought a recipe ebook, getting emails about hot new products to promote in the JVZoo marketplace. She won't know what the hell is going on. lol

    I think the one time flat fee option can work. I believe RAP has a one time fee and it's a pretty well known affiliate platform run by Sid who is always on top of things.

    I'm currently using e-junkie which has a monthly payment option of only $5 which I think is the best option right now. I just don't like their affiliate program.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Just read the rest of this thread.

      I have to agree that sending marketing emails to customers, especially those outside of the IM niche, is not a good idea.

      In this case you'll have old Mary, who just bought a recipe ebook, getting emails about hot new products to promote in the JVZoo marketplace. She won't know what the hell is going on. lol
      .
      We don't, if the product is outside of the IM niche, they simply uncheck the "make my product eligible for product of the day" and they don't get any notices. So Mary won't see anything when she's selling her cookbooks
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  • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
    Originally Posted by Ed Micah View Post

    Just noticed there's a new affiliate programs that's around the forum recently.

    JVZoo, what exactly are the differences between the that and Warrior Plus in feature-wise?

    Hmm, are we allowed to put both buy buttons from both affiliate program on once sales page?
    What is JVZoo anyway?? This is the first time I saw it here....
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    I never used JVZOO but have used warrior plus+. I never really had any problems with W+ but have grown tired of their "WSO of the day" emails. It seems like only the most profitable products make "WSO of the day", regardless how bad the WSO is. Now they are sending more and more emails daily to increase their profits, and the emails have become very, very annoying to the point where I had to unsubscribe. Once in a while I will buy these "WSO of the day" just to remind myself what crap people will promote, just to make a buck. It keeps me from buying too much junk. Some are good, but alot of the products are nothing more then snake oil, if you know what I mean.

    With that being said, Mr. Zimmerman can you explain to me how JVZoo picks their top wso's, and how many extra sales can a JVZoo product of the day, expect on average?

    Also why not make it clear to the customer, that they are subscribing to JVZoo promo emails, instead of trying to mislead buyers into thinking it is for the product updates, as some warriors have pointed out? I am glad there is competition now, but just because one delivery system does it, does not mean you should do it.


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    Bryan,

    Since you are answering questions I have a quick one for you. Is there a plan in the future to be able to use my own buy button and just copy/paste the correct link into it? I'm loving your service so far but that is the biggest, and so far only, issue I have with it so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      Originally Posted by jabro View Post

      Bryan,

      Since you are answering questions I have a quick one for you. Is there a plan in the future to be able to use my own buy button and just copy/paste the correct link into it? I'm loving your service so far but that is the biggest, and so far only, issue I have with it so far.
      Hi Jimmy,

      Yes you can do that as long as one of our buttons is somewhere on the page. You can have as many of your own buttons on the page as you want, just make sure that there is one of our buttons on there. Lots of people are taking the image and editing it and making it about pixle sized so the actual button doesn't even show yet it is still there so the cookie is set.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jan W
    thank you for these great information. I´m about to launch my first wso in the near future and I think I will now choose jvzoo over warrior+
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  • Profile picture of the author Ellie Days
    I like the idea where with JVZoo, you can launch products that are not WSO's. Which doesn't limit my marketing strategies on a forum based sales page.

    JVZoo for the win!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonny Mulroy
    Good thread, Im actually deciding on who to use for my next wso.

    Does JV Zoo notify affiliates immediately when a new product hits the marketplace based on keywords?

    Just trying to weigh up which will be the better platform for attracting more affiliates
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  • Profile picture of the author highrider21
    I haven't used JVZoo or Warrior+ to promote anything, but I have bought WSO's through both of them. And for some reason everytime I buy something through JVZoo it doesn't let me use my paypal smart connect account, but Warrior+ does. So I like Warrior+ better for purchasing as a customer. I emailed JVZoo asking about this but never got a reply.
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  • Profile picture of the author tanveerhabib
    Originally Posted by Ed Micah View Post

    Just noticed there's a new affiliate programs that's around the forum recently.

    JVZoo, what exactly are the differences between the that and Warrior Plus in feature-wise?

    Hmm, are we allowed to put both buy buttons from both affiliate program on once sales page?
    Thanks for informing us. I will see it and also judge the difference in them.
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    Anyone have a problem with "Outstanding Paid Commissions:" for a long time ?
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    I have only really used Warrior Plus so I too need to look at a few benefits of JVZoo...

    Looking forward to some insight also
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
    I personally prefer JVzoo better. Its just an easier platform to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author nawshale
    Hi,

    Warrior Plus and Jvzoo are good affiliate sites to use. If we compare the two, I think there could have some similarities and differences but very minimal.

    They work the same for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnTimmins
    Yes, indeed. JVZoo is making a good move these days. Actually, I am about to launch my first product using jvzoo because it is very easy to use.
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    Is the JVZoo approval process easier than Clickbank?
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    • Profile picture of the author dpwilliams
      I am in the process of setting up my first product and this thread has been very helpful in determining the pros and cons of JVZoo and W+...

      There was one point brought up that I have not seen addressed that would be very helpful to me...

      I'm setting up a WSO and decided on JVZoo. I was putting through a test purchase just to make sure everything was running ok, through my own link (not an affiliate link), but when I checked my account the money had been paid to an affiliate - the affiliate being JVZoo.

      Turns out that all sales made through the JVZoo Marketplace are automatically affiliated to JVZoo

      Apparently this is in the terms & conditions I originally signed up to.

      Anyway, I can't decide if there is anything wrong with this or not, but it is definitely making me a bit uneasy. Seems a little sneaky that JVZ are acting as affiliates themselves rather than just an affiliate platform. I guess it's my own fault for not properly reading the terms and conditions, and even if I had it probably would not have stopped me trying them out.

      But it does seem to echo some of the concerns in this thread that JVZ is trying to be a little bit of everything, and get a piece of every pie.

      I'd be interested to know what others think of this - maybe there is nothing wrong with JVZ taking affiliate commissions from all Marketplace sales...
      Here's where I get lost and hope someone can help.

      If your product is set up on Clickbank and the vendor sends traffic to their offer if there isn't an affiliate...the vendor gets credit for the entire sale.

      If I understand this correctly on JVZoo they are always the affiliate...so if you have a WSO and orders come directly from that Warrior page does JVZoo get credited for being the affiliate...

      If I drive traffic directly to my sales page and there is no affiliate will JVZoo be the affiliate and get credit for every other sale...

      Having trouble wrapping my mind around this...

      Deb
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        Originally Posted by dpwilliams View Post


        If I understand this correctly on JVZoo they are always the affiliate...so if you have a WSO and orders come directly from that Warrior page does JVZoo get credited for being the affiliate...
        Absolutely not. If you send traffic to your own offer or someone even stumbles upon your page looking around on the forum, JVZoo is not the affiliate nor credited for it. The vendor gets the entire sale and it shows as a "no affiliate sale".

        Originally Posted by dpwilliams View Post

        If I drive traffic directly to my sales page and there is no affiliate will JVZoo be the affiliate and get credit for every other sale...

        Having trouble wrapping my mind around this...

        Deb
        Same answer as above. There will be no affiliate and you as the vendor would get full credit for the sale. It would show as "no affiliate" in the reporting.
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        Originally Posted by dpwilliams View Post

        Here's where I get lost and hope someone can help.

        If your product is set up on Clickbank and the vendor sends traffic to their offer if there isn't an affiliate...the vendor gets credit for the entire sale.

        If I understand this correctly on JVZoo they are always the affiliate...so if you have a WSO and orders come directly from that Warrior page does JVZoo get credited for being the affiliate...

        If I drive traffic directly to my sales page and there is no affiliate will JVZoo be the affiliate and get credit for every other sale...

        Having trouble wrapping my mind around this...

        Deb
        Absolutely not, Deb! If you send traffic to your own offer, there is not an affiliate that gets paid. The same goes for natural traffic from Google or another search engine or people browsing the WSO forum and stumble upon your offer. JVZoo does not become the affiliate!
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    I've only done two WSO's thus far, used Warrior+ for both, but I do have an account on JVZoo and set one of the products up on it. Had a handful of people request to be affiliates, approved them on delayed commission, but no one sold anything so as a result I haven't had the opportunity to dive into the inner workings of the platform.

    Is the delayed commission a deterrent? If a buyer requests a refund, does it automatically pull the commission back from the affiliate like Warrior+ does?

    I have another WSO coming out in a few days that will need to issue a license key to buyers, so I need to understand the integration a little better, thinking this might be a good one to try with JVZoo
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      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      If a buyer requests a refund, does it automatically pull the commission back from the affiliate like Warrior+ does?
      That has been an option on JVZoo since long before W+ even switched to adaptive payments.

      Even if the amount is in dispute at PayPal, you can pull back the portion paid to the affiliate, before resolving the dispute.
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    I have just had a product approved by JVZoo and I have to say their service is far superior to Clickbank's. The Vendor dashboard is pretty cool with lots of help/support like Sales Funnels, Affiliate Contests etc.
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    I'd go for JVZoo > Warrior+ -- Although people say that w+ has got far more affiliates than Jvz, but still, with all the new features that the jvz got, it helped me easier to get sales, and attract affiliates!
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    JVZoo's registration for new affiliates isn't working. I've been trying since March 14th to join as an affiliate after I purchased a product on that site. The phone verification system isn't working at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author artflair
    I use both JVZoo and WarriorPlus and I really like both of them!
    The only thing about JVZoo that is a bit frustrating is that you have to ask for the product's creator permission in order to promote their product. Usually they always approve your requests but once in a while it takes a bit of time to get the affiliate link.
    In that respect I think ClickBank is still no1!
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      Originally Posted by Patrisha View Post

      I am OLD which means I am confused, non-techie, and usually uninformed, <BUT> I need to make money online again after recovering from my stroke somewhat and according to what I see, I am on the right page for accurate info.<BUT> I just don't know if I'm on the right page where my question will be welcomed, <BUT> ! am going to ask anyway, and IF I have made a mistake by asking it here , <please> forgive me. O.K.?

      I have never visited this site, and really don't know how I ended up here, (must be one of God's providences) but after seeing some names of those who I have learned from (BZ, EBR, etc) and have grown to trust, I could not help but to ask my question that would help me make some money if only I could get the accurate information to do so....
      ****** I want to sell digital products. One is a eBook, the other is actually a service where I want to give my buyer access to what they purchased only after they have paid for it.

      <BUT> the problem is PayPal which is the only payment processor I had ever heard of.

      ***** The problem is... even though I inserted ALL necessary information into the form fields when creating my PP Button...my buyer NEVER gets (MY) Receipt!

      +++ YES! I'm sure I filled in the form field with the correct info!

      They only get PayPal's receipt!

      **** So, basically, they NEVER get what they paid for!

      ALL they get is PayPal's Receipt.

      So, My Friends, WHO...what Payment Processor should I be using and why?

      I'm seeing JVZoo....ClickBank...PayPal...

      PLEASE help!
      Hi Patrisha

      if you are using WordPress, then take a look at
      easydigitaldownloads

      does all that quite well and for free.
      they have paid add ons, but the basics are free.

      pretty easy learning curve...

      link your paypal account
      you make your products into "posts" or "pages"
      and they give you a short code for it

      you just post the shortcode where you want it...
      boom, done.
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      Originally Posted by bj3377 View Post

      Receiving SPAM due to Products Bought at JVZoo

      I have received SPAM sent to several email addresses which I created specifically for products I bought throught JVZoo. These email addresses were never used any place else except to register and download the products I bought at JVZoo.

      I’m talkng about at lease 6 email addresses in which I now get SPAM offers from people I never heard of and ALL of the email addresses I'm getting spam at were registered at JVZoo. So this is way more than a coincidence.

      In just the past few days, I received SPAM emails from a "Bryan Miller" who I never heard of and is most likely a bogus name. He sent emails to addresses I created for Tubsniper, Syndication Rockstrar & Rockstar Power Suite

      Here's the email he sent to all 3 email addresses;

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Bryan Miller
      Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:51 PM
      Subject: This generated me $493 since this morning..
      Hey,
      I'm excited to share with you a brand new
      training video that I just watched that actually
      generated me $493 since this MORNING.
      And it was all DONE FOR ME!
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      It's NOT Binary Trading
      It's NOT Hosting
      It's NOT Facebook Ads
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      There is NO Experience necessary
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      some copy and paste, and the ability to fill out your
      information.
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      It's designed for 100% newbies and it's EXACTLY
      what you've been waiting for in 2014.
      So take the next 4 minutes to watch THIS VIDEO:
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      Your friend and mentor,
      Bryan Miller


      Here’s a few hypothetical possibilities (Keep in mind, I’m not accusing anyone of anything):

      1. Someone at JVZoo is selling or sharing customers email addresses with other marketers

      2. JVZoo has a security problem and customers email addresses are being hacked & stolen

      3. Vendors who are using JVZoo are selling or sharing customers email addresses

      Selling or sharing peoples email addresses without their permission and sending unsolicited spam is Violations of United States Federal Can-Spam laws

      I have brought this matter to the attention of JVZoo several times and they have never given me an explanation of how or why this is happening. I welcome an explanation from them.

      If you have had this same problem, please share your experience
      option 3 sounds more likely...
      a certain percentage of "spammers" are guaranteed to be jv product owners
      it's a numbers thing

      and they prob sell their affiliates links or use them themselves to market to...
      bryan winters...i've got his stuff too before....
      and I don't remember asking for it
      but I have bought from and I am an affiliate at JVzoo

      hmmmm.
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    i have some experience with jvzoo and it is really good for them.just start as a seller,with that ways you can earn money without promoting.just make some good products and you have ensure that your products is not a scrap.
    i've got $20 for my first sale.thanks jvzoo they take me to the next level of internet marketing tools.
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