Ed Micah

Just noticed there's a new affiliate programs that's around the forum recently.

JVZoo, what exactly are the differences between the that and Warrior Plus in feature-wise?

Hmm, are we allowed to put both buy buttons from both affiliate program on once sales page?

blillard

I have never used warrior pro other than as an affiliate which I had to pay for monthly. I sent questions for support never got. As a result I did not use them I have launched a thread using jvzoo. I did not have to pay for button my affiliates can promote for free, oto buttons included as well. I want to see how many will make the switch over to this instead. I can see it really taking off but warrior plus is highly well know on the forum.

Cory Friedman

Hey folks,

I found this link that does a solid job comparing all the different
payment processors... check it out:

and here's the comparison table:

https://www.jvzoo.com/compare

Buildingfutures

Having used both Warrior Plus and JVZoo as an affiliate, and setting up products in both programs, I gotta say, they're both good.

They both get the job done, but personally, I love JVZoo a bit more.

It's real simple and clean, you don't HAVE to pay $20 every time to release a product (you'll pay a small percentage of each sale to the platform, but you don't have to spend any more money to get the buttons to work or anything like that.)

Everything really just laid out for you with JVZoo, and there's plenty of people who are joining it.

Not to mention Bryan and E. Brian Rose are on top of everything, and make sure their coders take care of all their customers.

Example: Chris Ramsay released something recently, but he was having some problems.

They got to him QUICK and made sure everything was squared away so he could do his sale like he wanted without anything to hold it up.

Warrior Plus seems to be getting kinda lax with helping the customers and such. Not trying to say anything bad, but it just seems like they're not all there anymore.

JVZoo is new, everyone's on task, and it's easy to use.

I'll take JVZoo for all the products I release in 2012.

-Sean Sheehan

Amy Harrop

Although I haven't used JVZoo for any WSO's yet, I've been happy with how it works so far. I've placed products on there platform directly and it's very easy to use. I'll be using it for any WSO's in the future. I also think that JVZoo has some new features coming out soon as well.

RichWill

I have been with JVZoo since it's inception. I started with Warrior Plus as we all do. I have found JVZoo to be very easy to use and the cost comparison between JVZoo and Warrior Plus is a no brainer. JVZoo is less expensive.

JVZoo is easier to use and I have been placing my products on their site for the past couple of days. The features JVZoo presents are a welcome upgrade from what we all have been use from ease of creating a sales page on their site to presenting WSO's and placing products in a forum

It's so easy to do even a cavema....newbie will have no problems. The best benefit is the support and the staff. Everyone talks about Bryan and Brian, their ideas and marketing geniuses, but my hat is off to Chad Casselman. He is the real brains behind making JVZoo work so flawlessly.

This group from JVZoo are the future. Grab their IPO..........lol

Sleaklight

I like jvzoo more now than w+. I was having a problem due to me using a custom delivery script. Bryan got me setup with his coder and in minutes, they made changes on their end and now my delivery script works. I haven't seen anyone so open to user feedback and responding so quickly to it. Anyone interested in jvzoo should check it out. 2 thumbs up!

BestSEO

All I can say is, JVZOO blows away anything I have seen and/or used.... It is one of those true game changers and I hate people that use that saying regularly.... But for this service, they have really outdone themselves!!!! I mean look at what you get without the headaches!

Ed Micah

Thanks for all the information about JVZoo, I think anyone can tell who's better now...

However, I was just wondering, does JVZoo has any similar function like WSO of the day that sends mass emails for the chosen WSO?

Jeremy Kelsall

Some comparison and perspective from someone that's used both systems as an affiliate and a vendor.

1. I've had ZERO downtime with JVZoo as of yet, which means that I've made all the money I was supposed to make. With Warriorplus, I've lost thousands of dollars both as an affiliate when my links weren't being tracked and douche bag vendors wouldn't pay out and as a vendor when potential buyers couldn't buy.

2. As an affiliate with JVZOO, I get paid from the very first sale, with warriorplus, as an aff you have to wait for the 2nd sale to get paid.

3. As a vendor, If I have a partner in the product, I can set them up as a "JV" - assign a percentage from them, and the profits are split with every single sale that is made....So, no accounting to do later on, which makes it pretty damn simple.

4. JVZoo is using the adaptive payment system which is actually what paypal prefers for transactions like the ones that are being made, instead of customers sending money directly to affiliates and then a month later having no clue who the actual product vendor was.

Obviously the "idea" behind the two are similar, but for me, the infrastructure of JVZOO just makes me more comfortable right now...Hopefully Mike will look into some of the "glitches" that we've been experiencing as vendors and affiliates for the last couple months and fix them.

Dominis Marketing

I've used JVZoo for all my products.

So far, all I can say is WOW!

I've used W+ before but I thought of using JVZoo just to try them
out and Boy! was I impressed!

The only thing that JVzoo can't make is tracking what page and line
number your WSO is on in the WSO thread.

But it makes up for it for sooo many things.

Plus the excellent and responsive customer service. It's
the icing on the cake.

++++++ on JVZoo

Charles Harper

Are people using JVZoo Solely? For some reason, I seem to see people using both at the same time.

How is that possible?

CT

Jesus Perez

You can use 20 buy buttons on a WSO. It doesn't matter as long as the product gets delivered in the end.

These people are probably using both to attract a larger pool of affiliates. However, that's pretty messed up. If I send someone via a JVZoo link and they buy via WSOPro, I just lost my commission. I would personally stay away from WSO's like that.

Charles Harper

Right yes, you and I are saying the same thing, even though I didn't word it clearly. You voiced the entirety of the issue.

CT

zerofill

Jeremy and I have been using jvzoo also... been working great! Also had a few different things I needed to do to implement it with a couple other sites we have. They added the feature in like less than 24 hours to make it possible!

SirBertram

When I was a newbie I decided not to be an affiliate because the affiliate programs I found had SERIOUS FLAWS!

Thanks to JVZoo that's all been fixed and I LOVE promoting and listing products there!

Rsberg

As a seller I think JVZoo is leaps and bounds ahead of warrior+. The ease of their system , the way affiliates are taken care of for you, the payment splits are better on sales...etc etc. IMO warrior+ is in for some serious competition.

aminur

JVZoo is awesome They rock

jacksonlin

So if you had a new internet marketing product, would you recommend putting it on:

1. Clickbank
2. JV Zoo
3. Both?

cwrinco

JVZOO seems to be very popular wtih sellers but what about buyers? For me it sucks! No customer service for customers, no support for customers, and no way to resolve an issue unless you have a recent purchase with them.

My issue is that I can't get a purchase through their system and there's nobody to help. I will never use them for purchases and now especially for sales of my products and services.

JeremiahSay

Hi fellow warriors,

I'm planning on launching my first ever WSO next week and have a hard time deciding which payment platform to go .. W+ or JVZoo

Lots of people are saying that W+ will give you lots of "top" affiliates from WF and if you're not using W+ you'll be missing out on all these affiliates.

Nonetheless, after reading https://www.jvzoo.com/compare i think JVZoo is also a good place to start..

Until now i'm still in dilemma .. so please share with me your thoughts and experiences ..

Your comments to this thread will be very much appreciated,

Thank you all in advanced,
Jeremiah

P.S. God bless you

Simmeon

Discussed previously:JVZoo vs Warrior+

JeremiahSay

I'm looking to launch my first WSO next week.. and my main goal for this WSO is to look for affiliateS to promote my offer.. So which will be your recommendations? looking forward to hear your replies?

1) Warrior+
2) JVZoo

???

Bryan Zimmerman

We have a 24 hour support staff and if you had sent in a ticket you would have got a reply. We just checked, and we have no tickets from you.


We're showing you have made two purchases as well and have accessed both downloads, so you must have got through at some point. For support about the products you purchased, the vendors contact information is located on the download page. Please put in a ticket at JVZoo Support Desk and we'll be glad to take a look at what ever problem you're having for you.

JeremiahSay

Yeah thanks I have seen that thread

Simmeon

I would say JVZOO, unless you like paying $ each time you want to release a new WSO. Plus affiliates on W+ need to pay for the privilege.

JoeDRL

JvZoo all the way.
No upfront cost, just 5% fee or 17$ one-time fee.
No cost for affiliates...

The benefits are simply too huge to pass. If you are afraid about big affiliates, consider that they will probably swithc over to JVZoo in the future because of their instant payment structure.

They don't need to make two sales to get paid, they get instantly paid to their PayPal account.

Be happy, be successful,
~ JoeDRL

Andy B

My recent wso's have all been with jvzoo and have worked out great, especially with the recent 6,500 dollar contest they had!

They are not quite as big as w+ for affiliates YET I feel, but in the near future they will rock it on every level, go with jvzoo is my advice!

Also, I'd pay the $17 listing fee instead of 5% if you think your product is going to pay well, I made the mistake of not wanting to risk a measly $17 and paid out more in the 5% program

Hope that gives you an idea on who to choose!

Michael Oksa

Based on the way W+ handled their bug/hacking issue last year, I personally don't trust them. Yes, that's a personal opinion. The people behind W+ do things that I (again, personally) find shady (such as not making it clear enough that there is no connection to the WF).

I also know for a fact that the people behind JVZoo are very concerned about a good user experience (for both product creators and affiliates). Testing is important to them and they are top-notch when it comes to real customer service.

That being said, while JVZoo may not have as many people signed up at this point, they are still the better service overall. My belief is that JVZoo will continue to build a bigger following as more and more people have poor experiences with their top competitor.

All the best,
Michael

Alexa Smith

That's exactly my opinion, too - so I naturally suggest JVZoo, Jeremiah, of the two.

Paul Gram

I like what I have hear about JVZoo and am going with them for my upcoming WSO's. I didn't make the decision based on price though.

WSO = $19 and JVZoo = $17 (similar pricing) JVZ is a little better. I wasn't interested in giving them 5% of every sale because in most cases that will be much more than $17 so I am comparing the flat cost of each service against each other.

The reasons I am going with JVZ are:

1. I like how payments are made and what they do on refunds as well.
2. I like how it's free for affiliates to join and sell my products. Even if more people are with WSO+, they can also promote JVZ stuff and do it for free.

sbucciarel

Well, 5% of each sale isn't exactly free. If you have $2K in sales, that's $100. $1K in sales is $50.

If you go for the flat fee, they're close to the same, with Warrior Plus having a great deal more listings and affiliates promoting the offers.

I haven't tried it out for a listing, but have promoted some of the offers, but I also promote Warrior Plus offers.

IM Leauge

I would agree with you JVZoo is a good place to start out. Especially if your on a fixed budget. With all the costs that come with Warrior +. JVZoo is where most newbies should start from a cost perspective. When You earn money from your first WSO then you can upgrade to Warrior +. Start small and grow big.

Joseph G Spiteri

Interesting thread everyone look like jvz is winning haven't tried either so can't comment.

Dennis Gaskill

I recently ran a private launch using JVZoo and the experience was all positive. I'll be using them again very soon, for a WSO this time. It's very easy to get started, but if you find anything you're unsure of there are video tutorials to clear it right up.

Two thumbs up!

Whos That Guru

JVZoo all the way.

I couldn't be happier with them. Wait, I take that back - If they had an option that allowed you to 'test purchase' your product to make sure everything works correctly, that would make me a lot happier.

Hopefully they see this thread & decide to add that feature

lol but other than that, I love them.

perfectlovehere

I don't think I've ever heard of JVZoo before now. Thanks for letting me know about it.

extemporaneousM

Thanks for the comments. I think in the future when I launch my first WSO, I'll probably be using JVZoo myself

Ettienne

Only heard about it yesterday myself, sounds too good NOT to check out. Glad I found these comments on here since I've been working pretty hard over the last few weeks to bring out a new product.

Dennis Gaskill

I didn't mention this in my previous post because I wasn't sure if it applied to everyone, but I've since learned that it does (at the time of this posting), but:

If you do a WSO now using JVZoo as the payment processor they'll refund the cost of the WSO to you. You can't beat that -- it's like getting a free WSO listing.

Whos That Guru

@ Dennis, yep. They paid for mine.

Its seriously a risk-free opportunity. You'd have to be a fool NOT to try it.

And I must say, the experience has been nothing short of amazing.

Bryan Zimmerman

No problem Dennis. Yes, we'll take care of anyone's 40.00 listing fee they pay to list a WSO. For right now anyway

honestbizpro

I would add that the "New Kids on the Block" are here to stay.

Just pay attention to how the creators of JVzoo.com react here in the forum they are definitely forward thinkers and they listen! But not only listen these guys implement!

I have had huge success with Warrior Plus but If I was just starting out today and wanted to encourage someone to promote a product of mine what words do I use to tell them that they have to PAY to join the affiliate program to promote for me? That is the case with Warrior Plus.

I am one of those guys that is reluctant to change with a "if it aint broke then don't fix it" attitude but if something is getting positive check marks for my customers experience, my affiliates experience, and my personal experience as well...then change is good.

ShivaLingam

There are 3 main differences between JvZoo and Warrior+

Difference #1: JvZoo gives you a split commission for every sale, while Warrior+ gives the first commission to the seller and the next to you, and so on maintaining a quota the most similar to the commission (example of a 75% commission: 1st sale goes to the seller, 2nd, 3rd and 4th commission to you, then seller again and so on)
Difference #2: Warrior+ has 100 times more products, plus there are at least 20 new products added each day (almost all the WSO that come out).
Difference #3: JvZoo is Free, Warrior+ costs less than 4$/month for an affiliate.

So you can choose between the two, but in my opinion is best to get them both

Bryan Zimmerman

Actually they don't have any where close to 100xs more products than we do, we'll pass them at the current rate in a few months. Not bad for them having a 2 year head start We are having new products listed at a rate of 40-70 a day right now and that number continues to climb.

Whos That Guru

JVZoo is tight man. Plus like another guy said, look at the responsiveness in the forums..

I've been waiting for months for Mike to reply to my question about WSOPro. Still nothing.

That isnt the case with JVZoo. These people are actively checking the threads & answering questions, hell they are even (at this time) paying for your WSO listing for you.

But I cant even get a damn response from Mike. So no thanks, I'll go with JVZoo over WSOPro any day.

I'll gladly let them take 5% of each sale. I dont care. lol and I'm sure they dont mind receiving it They will probably invest it to make the site even better over time, so why would I care about giving them 5 dollars for every 100 they let me run thru them? duh.. lol

PS, people seem to think JVZoo is small.. man, trust me their platform is stable. They run some huge numbers without any problems. Everything runs like clockwork.

And ya, they are steadily growing. Just try them, you'll be glad you did.

RedHat39

Wow are you serious? How do we get in on this? This is the first I've heard of this offer.

Gary_The_Ace

I'd consider myself a "big" affiliate... (I was the first to earn 100k on a single promotion in the IM space) and the PayPal instant payments is one big reason I would AVOID using JVZoo.

There is NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to risk my PayPal account on someone else's product. I don't see why this instant payment thing matters at all... but this is coming from the perspective of a guy who doesn't need the money right away.

Personally, I don't like split payments, or instant payments... collect the payments, process your refunds, and pay me after the refund window is closed.

This puts you, the seller, at less risk because you can process all your refunds... it puts me, the affiliate, in a better position because I'm not forced to deal with your clients, and I don't have the liability of having to put my account at risk based on your sales claims... and, you could update the sales page at any minute, without my knowledge, which could completely screw me.

-Gary Ambrose

P.S. If you need payment instantly, you're dealing with the wrong product owners...

You should NEVER be scared that you won't get paid by someone running an affiliate program. If you have any concerns about getting paid, why in the world would you promote their product in the first place... why send your subscribers to a product managed by someone that you don't trust yourself?

Bryan Zimmerman

Sorry we won't be seeing you there then Gary, but it's not quite the problem you seem to think it is. The adaptive payment process (not a rotation) was built by Paypal specifically for affiliates to use. You as the affiliate never have contact with the buyer, the receipts always come from the seller and you are simply paid you "cut" after the buyer has paid the seller from the sellers account. You don't even exists as far as the buyer is concerned (Minus the terms of use policy, earnings disclaimer on your site or email, etc).

If it was that big of a "risk", which it's not considering the thousands of people who run their programs on JVZoo, W+, RAP, Digi and others every single day, Paypal would simply close them all down for using such systems.

There was a 6 weeks process to even get approved to build the system through their adaptive payments.

We've even had a group of Clickbank power sellers move over because of how bad Clickbank's refund policies are and their fines they are dishing out because of them. These's guys refund percent since switching? Less than 2% which is a HUGE drop from Clickbank. Why is that? Because Clickbank will give you a refund if you feel like you didn't find your shoes in enough time this morning or what ever other silly reason people come up with. In Paypal, you have a chance to fight it, black list them through JVZoo so they can't buy and just a ton of other options Paypal gives you.

You may not like these systems, but as you can already tell, it's something that's not going away anytime soon. More and more people are going to be wanting to get paid up front and actually search out affiliate programs that do pay that way since it's available.

Bryan Zimmerman

Simply PM JVZoo's account here on WF and let them know you are going to be running a WSO and they'll give you instructions on how do get it taken care of