Does PPV makes money for Email Submit Offers?

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I'm curious to know if PPV really make money for email submit offers. If I understand most prominent PPV networks have huge budgets and are expensive. If anyone is making money with PPV , please suggest how I get started?


Thanks in advance!

Farario
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  • Profile picture of the author Silentkiller1
    Why not try PPC? It will be easier than PPV. Try with 7search.
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  • Profile picture of the author MN786
    volume is much lower from 7search.com....
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  • Profile picture of the author jaggyjay
    Yes. But testing and tracking your keywords and landers is critical to your success. Don't expect your ROI to be huge at first. You may have to spend $100 before you even make $20 profit.

    Originally Posted by farairo View Post

    I'm curious to know if PPV really make money for email submit offers. If I understand most prominent PPV networks have huge budgets and are expensive. If anyone is making money with PPV , please suggest how I get started?


    Thanks in advance!

    Farario
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    • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
      Originally Posted by jaggyjay View Post

      Yes. But testing and tracking your keywords and landers is critical to your success. Don't expect your ROI to be huge at first. You may have to spend $100 before you even make $20 profit.
      I`d agree with what my fellow warrior said above . That`s the major reason mostly new people run away from PPV after spending some money and when they see no result at start they simply giveaway ...
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      • Profile picture of the author farairo
        going by all your posts, it seems PPV is not suited for email/submit offers...`I guess PPc is the best bet but as suggested by someone 7 search does not offer much value...& its impossible to crack Adwords & adsense...Not left with much room though..Is there any other PPC source that you guys can suggest apart from the above & POF...

        Thanks !

        Farario
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        • Profile picture of the author zerofill
          Originally Posted by farairo View Post

          it seems PPV is not suited for email/submit offers...
          It is very much suited to email/zip submit type offers. Whether they are CPA or your own free report, software, etc...

          The problem is... people don't learn how to track their conversions. They typically are lazy and don't learn how to do it. Or they have people teaching them that don't know what the hell they are talking about.

          They also have some misconception that doing a couple email/zip submit campaigns will make them rich, or able to quit their day job. Doesn't work that way...

          You need multiple successful campaigns to be profitable with $1.10-$2.40 average email/zip submit campaigns.

          You also have to be willing to lose money to make money by testing, tracking tweaking, split testing.

          A lot of people panic when they start losing money, and don't run campaigns long enough. Thus they have no real data to know much of anything.

          Whoever tells you that paid traffic isn't monotonous, irritating, annoying, etc... either loves it or is lying to you lol. I far from love it... But I often don't feel like playing SEO games, and other things for many campaigns. So I know how to do it, and still don't enjoy it. I just enjoy money from it.

          You constantly are monitoring and changing things up A LOT... to get to where you can sit comfortably for awhile.

          Big focus on your CTR. If your CTR is low... and your traffic is high... it's doomed. You have to figure out how to get that CTR up. Audios, videos, animations, etc... You have to get people to click through. Then if the same offer is running on multiple networks you need to rotate all their landing pages as well. To find which converts the best. You have to have a very high CTR for email/zip submits to end up profitable period. Often 40% to 60% CTR.

          But I've even had campaigns with 60%+ CTR and still weren't profitable. It happens... anyone tells you it doesn't is also lying to you. But there are a lot of reasons why this can happen. So that is why you need to really monitor your tracking. I use CPV Lab... love it. I moved to it from Prosper.

          But CPV is a great form of lead generation. Most people don't focus on building a list themselves and then marketing CPA offers, etc... to those lists. There is a lot of money left on the table because of this. This can actually become way more lucrative in the long run. Because you are converting off many of the same people over and over again after they are in a list. Without actually paying for those conversions.

          There is a lot more to this game when it comes to tracking, landing page creation, split testing, etc...

          Some of the things that convert the best will leave you going "WTF?"

          Some of the things that don't convert good at all will leave you going "WTF?"

          Even though I said I don't enjoy it... I have to admit it is fun at times. But it can be very frustrating also. Especially when you are someone starting out. Like I told a lot of people... My first attempt at paid traffic was about 12 years ago. In 15 minutes I lost $250 and was like WTH? People make money doing this? lol

          EDIT: Should also state that there is a lot more then just making money off these single email/zip submit campaigns, when you start doing things like coreg. But that takes a lot more explaining.
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          • Profile picture of the author Minato7
            Thanks for your objective insight! What does 'coreg' stand for, though? Sorry if it's a stupid question but it's the first time I'm hearing the word and all Google has to offer are results pertaining to a drug. :confused:

            Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

            It is very much suited to email/zip submit type offers. Whether they are CPA or your own free report, software, etc...

            The problem is... people don't learn how to track their conversions. They typically are lazy and don't learn how to do it. Or they have people teaching them that don't know what the hell they are talking about.

            They also have some misconception that doing a couple email/zip submit campaigns will make them rich, or able to quit their day job. Doesn't work that way...

            You need multiple successful campaigns to be profitable with $1.10-$2.40 average email/zip submit campaigns.

            You also have to be willing to lose money to make money by testing, tracking tweaking, split testing.

            A lot of people panic when they start losing money, and don't run campaigns long enough. Thus they have no real data to know much of anything.

            Whoever tells you that paid traffic isn't monotonous, irritating, annoying, etc... either loves it or is lying to you lol. I far from love it... But I often don't feel like playing SEO games, and other things for many campaigns. So I know how to do it, and still don't enjoy it. I just enjoy money from it.

            You constantly are monitoring and changing things up A LOT... to get to where you can sit comfortably for awhile.

            Big focus on your CTR. If your CTR is low... and your traffic is high... it's doomed. You have to figure out how to get that CTR up. Audios, videos, animations, etc... You have to get people to click through. Then if the same offer is running on multiple networks you need to rotate all their landing pages as well. To find which converts the best. You have to have a very high CTR for email/zip submits to end up profitable period. Often 40% to 60% CTR.

            But I've even had campaigns with 60%+ CTR and still weren't profitable. It happens... anyone tells you it doesn't is also lying to you. But there are a lot of reasons why this can happen. So that is why you need to really monitor your tracking. I use CPV Lab... love it. I moved to it from Prosper.

            But CPV is a great form of lead generation. Most people don't focus on building a list themselves and then marketing CPA offers, etc... to those lists. There is a lot of money left on the table because of this. This can actually become way more lucrative in the long run. Because you are converting off many of the same people over and over again after they are in a list. Without actually paying for those conversions.

            There is a lot more to this game when it comes to tracking, landing page creation, split testing, etc...

            Some of the things that convert the best will leave you going "WTF?"

            Some of the things that don't convert good at all will leave you going "WTF?"

            Even though I said I don't enjoy it... I have to admit it is fun at times. But it can be very frustrating also. Especially when you are someone starting out. Like I told a lot of people... My first attempt at paid traffic was about 12 years ago. In 15 minutes I lost $250 and was like WTH? People make money doing this? lol

            EDIT: Should also state that there is a lot more then just making money off these single email/zip submit campaigns, when you start doing things like coreg. But that takes a lot more explaining.
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            • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
              Originally Posted by Minato7 View Post

              Thanks for your objective insight! What does 'coreg' stand for, though? Sorry if it's a stupid question but it's the first time I'm hearing the word and all Google has to offer are results pertaining to a drug. :confused:
              Coreg is short for 'co-registration.' These leads come from existing email lists. Generally when someone unsubs from a list they're shown a list of 'related offers' that they can opt-in to. You can buy co-reg leads on a per lead basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Does it make money? Yes!

    Does it make a lot of money? No! Why? Because email submit offers DO NOT pay a lot, maybe a few bucks. Stick to lead based products that do pay a lot such as insurance quotes and loan applications. I get like up to $90 bucks per form submit via private networks, and they even allow PPV traffic so quite lucrative.

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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by farairo View Post

    I'm curious to know if PPV really make money for email submit offers. If I understand most prominent PPV networks have huge budgets and are expensive. If anyone is making money with PPV , please suggest how I get started?


    Thanks in advance!

    Farario
    Yes.. start by reading this thread -> http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...-step-1-a.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Jetmir
    I don't really like Email Submits, but I'd advise you to try PPC with 7search. I've heard people having good results doing that.

    Don't expect profits before spending some good money.
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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Originally Posted by Jetmir View Post

      but I'd advise you to try PPC with 7search. I've heard people having good results doing that.
      Don't advise someone to do something on hearsay. I have no problem with 7search. I just hate when people say things in a way that it comes out like...

      My friend's, cousin's, uncle, said this was pretty good. So you should definitely try it!

      When it comes to PPC, you're going to have to have some experience using them, to advise someone to use them.

      Ths would be different if you say, "I hear 7 search isn't bad. I haven't used them though. But might be worth a try."
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