A fool-proof money-maker

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Some time ago a marketer told me that a customer had
purchased the same book from him no less than 7 times.

I assume the customer had a very bad memory.

Which gave me an idea.

I'm going to write a book with a title like
"How to improve your memory"


I'll set it at a low price so that its an easy sale.

Then in my follow up campaigns I'll give extra tips on
improving memory until, a few weeks later, I tell them

"I hope you are enjoying these tips in my newsletter.
There's hundreds more in my new book - How to improve your memory"

See, they will most likely have forgotten their original
purchase and will re-order.

The next step is to invite them to become affiliates with
the maximum ClickBank 75% commission.

Then I'll switch the rate down to 10%.

If they complain about low commissions and say they thought
it was 75% I'll simply tell them they are confused with
another ebook.

I could be cheeky and say
'Your memory is not too good, how about buying this book . . '
but that might be taking it a bit far.

What do you think ?



Harvey
#foolproof #moneymaker
  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

    What do you think ?
    I think you've been reading Friedrich Nietzsche, who said:

    "The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time"

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Harvey,

      You have posted this exact same thread, every day this week. Do you not remember?
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    • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

      I think you've been reading Friedrich Nietzsche, who said:

      "The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time"

      John
      Yeah, well unfortunately for him, Nietzsche died horribly from syphilitic insanity, if memory serves (irony intended). Maybe he forgot which of the prostitutes he frequented were unclean.
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    • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
      Originally Posted by NijThinkIt View Post

      i hear goldfish have a similar problem
      Yes, but it ain't true! LOL I don't know why I'm replying to this really but anyway ...

      If you have ever kept fish you will know that they know where and when the food goes in, so the old 3 sec memory thing is just a myth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Truffle
      Originally Posted by NijThinkIt View Post

      i hear goldfish have a similar problem
      actually not true, goldfish get to know you over a period of weeks and months and can actually be trained to do all sorts of tricks

      the misconception that their brains can't remember a thing is a false one (probably do to the fact that they go "blub blub blub" all day long)

      have a nice one,
      Joeri Bickx
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  • Profile picture of the author andybeveridge
    You should have called this thread Groundhog day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    Harvey,
    You've been drinking?
    Don't worry you won't remember tomorrow!

    Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author john_kennedy
    One of the advantages of bad memory is that you can hide your own Easter eggs!
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by john_kennedy View Post

      One of the advantages of bad memory is that you can hide your own Easter eggs!
      That is soooo funny! The one liners are the best...

      Thanks for the laugh - I needed it - I've just been informed that my car is terminally ill

      I feel much better now!

      Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    The advantage of a bad memory is...erm...argh, it's on the tip of my tongue...nope, it's gone.
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    • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
      Originally Posted by Steven Fullman View Post

      The advantage of a bad memory is...erm...argh, it's on the tip of my tongue...nope, it's gone.
      You can always tell when you have bad memory, it's always on the
      tip of the tongue...lol

      --David
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  • Profile picture of the author billaaa777
    This was a good one, LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author tessmac9708
    Hi Harvey

    Any chance of you letting me have that $100 I lent you...never mind...forget it!

    Graham
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by tessmac9708 View Post

      Hi Harvey

      Any chance of you letting me have that $100 I lent you...never mind...forget it!

      Graham

      Graham

      You look remarkably like Ardal O'Hanlon!:confused:

      You're not his long lost twin bro - or are you?

      Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Brite
    Now this is a funny yet very un-ethical method taking advantage of people will really bad memory loss. Made me laugh alot though! Plus it got me thinking!

    Tom Brite
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Won't work, Harvey. From personal experience I can tell you that the customer service load is a nightmare. Every day you'll get hundreds of "I can't find the ebook on my hard drive -- can you send me the download link?" requests...
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Harvey, every time I think I have something foolproof, some fool comes along and proves me wrong...
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      • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
        7 Times? lol... That's must be Alzheimers.

        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Harvey, every time I think I have something foolproof, some fool comes along and proves me wrong...
        Love Your sig!
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard HAN
      Rebecca

      That would be easy.

      I would just send them to my Clickbank's Order Link with text:

      "You may download the book from the following link:

      >> Insert Order Link <<



      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Won't work, Harvey. From personal experience I can tell you that the customer service load is a nightmare. Every day you'll get hundreds of "I can't find the ebook on my hard drive -- can you send me the download link?" requests...
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    • Profile picture of the author yves
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      Won't work, Harvey. From personal experience I can tell you that the customer service load is a nightmare. Every day you'll get hundreds of "I can't find the ebook on my hard drive -- can you send me the download link?" requests...
      Lol, yeah you'd really regret that one. It would be taking de ja vu to a another level
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  • Profile picture of the author IMBT
    John................LOL .......That was a good one....hahahahaha
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  • Profile picture of the author viralim
    Excuse me...have I posted a reply on this thread yet? Could it be my seventh post?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Phillips
    Hi Harvey,

    I know a few people that money-maker would probably work on.

    Now I'm not talking about any of my customers. They are the best.

    But here's one guy I'm pretty sure would fall for it.


    Have a great day.

    Best Regards,

    Jim
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  • Profile picture of the author thewizard
    This is hilarious. Maybe make a hard copy book on "how to improve memory" and just visit an old age home once a month and keep selling to them. Sounds like easy work to me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stefan Vee
    Hope you'll remember to post this in your own forum as well.
    Amusing post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Rudge
    What was the question again?
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    So what should we call this....circle marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    If I told you how many WSOs I have purchased 2 or 3 times you would make your Memory ebook a WSO.

    However my memory does seem to be improving a bit. Knock on wood. BRB someone is at the door.

    George Wright
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    Three the answers ... three
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  • Profile picture of the author TheDebtEliminator
    I am laughing real hard

    But, I can remember why?

    Please help me
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    My opinion to this is...

    Wait, what am I suppose to write?
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
      The late, great George Melly, on being diagnosed with Alzheimer's said,

      "I rather like having Alzheimer's - I'm always meeting new people."

      Martin
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Thanks for that Harvey. Sometimes I think you should have a signature that says "by the way everything in my post is a joke" because I'm sure some people will think you're serious and start looking how to do this.

    A bad memory is pretty common for IMers too - how many times have you seen someone selling a 'never before revealed secret'?
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
    This post is hysterical and getting out of hand-

    -but I love it too
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    You must be confusing something...
    You have already been called a scammer
    several hundred times, don't you remember Harvey?

    Igor
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    If I told you how many WSOs I have purchased 2 or 3 times you would make your Memory ebook a WSO.

    However my memory does seem to be improving a bit. Knock on wood. BRB someone is at the door.

    George Wright P.S. This post sounds familiar. O, well.
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  • Profile picture of the author monsur
    What a funny post!I enjoyed it.
    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      Thank you for your suggestions so far.

      I'd like to comment on this one
      Originally Posted by thewizard View Post

      Maybe make a hard copy book on "how to improve memory" and just visit an old age home once a month and keep selling to them. Sounds like easy work to me!
      What a horrible scoundrel you are - preying on the unfortunate.


      And now for my latest idea.

      It will almost DOUBLE my money.

      How about upselling the customer with the very same book !!


      I've done some beta testing and here are the results.

      My thank-you page says

      Thank you for ordering my ebook
      "How to improve your memory"

      blah .. blah

      blah .. blah

      By the way I'm sure you would love the sequel
      "How to improve your memory"



      Now, some 70% of customers also purchased this 'sequel'.

      The others said

      'Harvey, did you put a wrong link in there - this
      looks like the original book'

      I brushed them off with an excuse about an out-of-date page
      and an old offer.


      Then came the master stroke - and it shows the power of split testing.

      I changed the page to

      Thank you for ordering my ebook
      "How to improve your memory"

      blah .. blah

      blah .. blah

      By the way I have something extra for you.

      Please click to next page



      You see - by the time they reached the next page the
      previous information was a blur and an amazing 95% now
      ordered.

      I'm now working on the next stage - recurring income.

      I've already prepared this template response

      "No sir, you misunderstand.
      When you saw the $9 price it was a monthly fee.
      Surely you didn't expect me to sell this outstanding book for a pittance."


      Harvey
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      • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
        Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

        Thank you for your suggestions so far.

        I'd like to comment on this one

        What a horrible scoundrel you are - preying on the unfortunate.


        And now for my latest idea.

        It will almost DOUBLE my money.

        How about upselling the customer with the very same book !!


        I've done some beta testing and here are the results.

        My thank-you page says

        Thank you for ordering my ebook
        "How to improve your memory"

        blah .. blah

        blah .. blah

        By the way I'm sure you would love the sequel
        "How to improve your memory"



        Now, some 70% of customers also purchased this 'sequel'.

        The others said

        'Harvey, did you put a wrong link in there - this
        looks like the original book'

        I brushed them off with an excuse about an out-of-date page
        and an old offer.


        Then came the master stroke - and it shows the power of split testing.

        I changed the page to

        Thank you for ordering my ebook
        "How to improve your memory"

        blah .. blah

        blah .. blah

        By the way I have something extra for you.

        Please click to next page



        You see - by the time they reached the next page the
        previous information was a blur and an amazing 95% now
        ordered.

        I'm now working on the next stage - recurring income.

        I've already prepared this template response

        "No sir, you misunderstand.
        When you saw the $9 price it was a monthly fee.
        Surely you didn't expect me to sell this outstanding book for a pittance."


        Harvey
        Whahehehe! I had to quote the entire thing..To prevent me from forgetting what I've been laughing so hard about..
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Ratliff
    Gives a whole new meaning to the term "repeat customers"...

    Gives a whole new meaning to the term "repeat customers"...

    Gives a whole new... wait? What was I going to write here again? Dagnabbit.
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  • Profile picture of the author RainDrop
    laughing hysterically,
    but can't remember why
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    I can't seem to remember what this thread was about. Can someone tell me?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

      I can't seem to remember what this thread was about. Can someone tell me?
      I thought I had it on the tip of my tongue, but it turned out to be a tictac...
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  • Profile picture of the author Richgirl
    Well, I am sitting here in my lounge in England on my own in the middle of the night, (in my dressing gown - calm down boys!!), laughing my head off!! This is absolutely hilarious! I just choked on my tea! We need more humour here,

    Thanks Harv and everyone! I'm grinning like an idiot!!! Tee hee!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author YanKirby
    LOL that cracked me up! darn it we need more laughter in here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Online Bliss
    I totally remember you
    giving me permission to email you everyday!
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    • Profile picture of the author SantiSantana
      Me stomach hurtz!

      Seriouly, I´m having trouble stopping the laughter. Full Marks mr Segal!!

      You´ve done it again!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Harvey, the potential for affiliate recruitment is off the charts for this one. Your "Never had a refund request, and never will" USP should have them foaming at the mouth.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          Harvey, the potential for affiliate recruitment is off the charts for this one. Your "Never had a refund request, and never will" USP should have them foaming at the mouth.
          "I've never had a refund request as far as any customer can remember."
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
      Remember you promised me your latest ebook for free Harvey?

      I can't remember what is was called.
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      • Profile picture of the author peter_act
        And I thought I was the only fool who had ordered the same product twice.
        But seeing a high flyer like George has done it too makes me feel a whole lot better about myself.

        I just posted in another thread about a sale I just made from a site I didn't even know I had - isn't that just as bad?

        Frank: Why do you drink so much Dean?
        Dean: I drink to forget
        Frank: Forget what Dean?
        Dean: I can't remember
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        • Profile picture of the author peter_act
          I have to do a quick post because I'm sitting on 87 posts, which is a very unlucky number to be sitting on in Australian cricket. (It's 100 runs less 13).

          I notice that there are posts by Jim Phillips and Troy Phillips.

          I'm Peter Phillips

          Did I post under different names? - can't remember!
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    • Profile picture of the author Iggmeister
      7 times is nothing.
      I've got hundreds of people on my membership site on how to hypnotize.

      <you are feeling very sleepy>

      you see, I discovered that long sales letters used to make me sleepy

      <you are feeling relaxed>

      so I wrote this really long salesletter for people who want to learn the power of suggestion. I mean reallly long and engaging. It was so engaging that people not only felt tired but relaxed at my suggestion

      <you are very relaxed now>

      and did you know that people who want to learn to hypnotize are actually really open to suggestion.

      You did know that didn't you. You want to learn don't you.

      <You are relaxed at the idea of learning this power>

      Very relaxed.

      You remember how generous you feel when you are relaxed

      <you need to know more>

      You know that only spending money will get you this power

      <feeling oh so relaxed, oh so generous>

      visist my site and find out how you can feel relaxed every month at only $97

      <my newletters will help you relax>

      and you know how clicking those affiliate links makes you excited and full of anticipation.

      <you feel excited, you want to spend money>

      <it makes you feel good, relaxed, in control>

      Just head over to my website and you can have this power.

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    • Profile picture of the author craigc1980
      Heres my email address.

      I think i forgot to give it to you

      craig@iforgot.com
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      • Profile picture of the author Alminc
        This is absolutelly brilliant concept.

        It totally eliminates the duplicate content issue.

        BRAVO!
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      What am I doing here? Can anyone explain?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    That post cracked me up.

    Post it again in a week and it will crack me up again. Also, remind me to buy your memory course.

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    I have a woman who has purchased my eBook 4 times. Bless her heart - she had a stroke and she always emails me realizing after the fact that she's already bought it. We laugh about it now because I'm THAT good at selling it to her repeatedly
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    That's a great idea Harvey. Here's a MUCH better idea though. I got it somewhere on the internet, can't remember where.

    I'd like your thoughts on how my plan stacks up against yours.

    Here it s:

    Some time ago a marketer told me that a customer had
    purchased the same book from him no less than 7 times.

    I assume the customer had a very bad memory.

    Which gave me an idea.

    I'm going to write a book with a title like
    "How to improve your memory"


    I'll set it at a low price so that its an easy sale.

    Then in my follow up campaigns I'll give extra tips on
    improving memory until, a few weeks later, I tell them

    "I hope you are enjoying these tips in my newsletter.
    There's hundreds more in my new book - How to improve your memory"

    See, they will most likely have forgotten their original
    purchase and will re-order.

    The next step is to invite them to become affiliates with
    the maximum ClickBank 75% commission.

    Then I'll switch the rate down to 10%.

    If they complain about low commissions and say they thought
    it was 75% I'll simply tell them they are confused with
    another ebook.

    I could be cheeky and say
    'Your memory is not too good, how about buying this book . . '
    but that might be taking it a bit far.

    What do you think ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Sullivan
    Hey, i'm the one who bought that bread machine 7 times...or was it 8? Anyway, i'm going to have to buy it again now because i don't know what the hell i have done with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Dont you hate it when you get far in the thread and you cant remember what it was about?
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    I think this is dishonest and ridiculous....If I sold an ebook and someone re ordered the same thing I think they would be more likely to purchase things I recommended or wrote in the future if I sent them a refund for the second purchase and I politely told them that they already own it and where they can re download it.

    Don't take advantage of people like that it is not a good business practice.

    Benjamin
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    It's funny that you say this, because I have membership sites, where after doing an audit we discovered the same member paying three times for his membership.

    I guess some people get so caught up in a buying frenzy that they buy the same things over and over.
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  • Profile picture of the author FastCash4You
    Two things start to happen when we get old... First is your memory starts to go, and Second... uh I can't remember it exactly.
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  • Profile picture of the author JR Powell
    Another great benefit of alzheimer's...you meet new people every day!
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  • Profile picture of the author Doug Olson
    Maybe this has happened before to you? Dejavou?
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  • Dude i really had something pphuny to say but I forgot it..lol
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  • Profile picture of the author DragonLee
    I scrolled down and completely forgot what I wanted to say...Hmmm...
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
    harvey those that say is this the same ebook...

    your reply should be yes but i refunded you for the 2nd purchase dont you remember

    then a week later have an autoresponder go out saying the refund you recieved was in error please repay using this link

    In fact you could have that message go out weekly to the list
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    Where's the link? I can't find the link to this product any where and I'd really like to... hey look a nickle!
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  • Profile picture of the author CDawson
    Banned
    a better keyword title would be "How to improve your memory after intoxication"
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I bought the same book from Amazon 3 times over a 12 month period What does that say about me:confused:

    Are you being serious Benjamin

    Originally Posted by Benjamin Ehinger View Post

    I think this is dishonest and ridiculous....If I sold an ebook and someone re ordered the same thing I think they would be more likely to purchase things I recommended or wrote in the future if I sent them a refund for the second purchase and I politely told them that they already own it and where they can re download it.

    Don't take advantage of people like that it is not a good business practice.

    Benjamin
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    • Profile picture of the author cartoonstudios
      Kim, im another amazon repeater lol... I purchased the same DVD from amazon several times but that was my fault because I forgot where I put the original haha!

      Rich
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      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      I bought the same book from Amazon 3 times over a 12 month period What does that say about me:confused:

      Are you being serious Benjamin
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