I don't care what you say... Article Marketing Sucks

That's the kind of response I'd expect from someone
who doesn't understand leverage.

Pay Per Click gets you one click.

Articles can get you thousands of clicks over a long
period of time.


John

Seems you might not be learning from your mistakes.

You might want to post for some help in the PPC portion of the forum.

Play with it on lower priced PPC places like 7search.com etc...first...

Then on AdWords I recommend you stay away from the content network at first...and stick strictly to Google search only...

Target only a few phrase match keywords at first...

Then move on from there...to the content network etc...target the sites in your niche you want your ads to display on. You can do that in AdWords no a days...

Although I am no PPC Guru...but had success with Amazon products...they are rather easy to target with AdWords... It was kind of like...I would spend $100 and make $150... But anymore I don't have enough time to spend on it...

Especially with so many ways to drive traffic these days...

Some people enjoy PPC a lot...because they can pretty much manage everything pertaining to their traffic from one place. They will sit their and watch their AdWords account like a day trader sitting at home with the stock market 8)

Marc, here's what I have to say to your post.

If I listened to you...I'd be broke right now instead of being a 6 figure earner.

Of all the sanctimonious, crap infested, bull cookies I have ever heard in my
life.

There are just no words for how irresponsible what you just posted is.

I'm going to leave it at that because if I really go off on this load of clap
trap you'll be ducking for the nearest bomb shelter.

Un-freakin-believable.

Article Marketing is work, simple as that.

And not everyone is cut out for it.

But PPC can put you in the poor house if you don't know what your doing.

PPC is just not a viable option for most new people, one major reason being that it is not a level playing field.

A new person could copy a PPC veterans campaign to the letter and still end up paying several dollars per click more just because they have yet to establish a reputation.

Don't fool yourself, learning PPC is work just the same.

Just because someone has made some money at it, certainly doesn't mean they've mastered it.

Ha, this made me laugh. Missed it earlier

Fist of all I don't agree with your original post.

Second of all, Sir.. please put your sig back as you had done nothing wrong. We're all allowed sig files and starting threads based on the niche's we specialize in is brilliant forum marketing which everyone does.

Get your sig back in there son.

I love giving an infraction to a troll.

Louis

Why the hell do people still think that there is some sort of "exception" or "luck" involved with article marketing...or seo...etc?


P.S. I really don't mean to keep posting in response to other posts...sorry about that guys!

Hey! You've never actually done this have you? I'm an SEO pro and be aware, that statement is a *bit inaccurate. Damn! (I'm being kind).

I don't really care about any opinions about PPC vs Article marketing (it's like comparing hammers and drills - who cares). So I was reading the thread with bored interest but that statement jolted me. It's so off-target.

Isn't it kind of fairer and better (to other forum members) to post about things you have actual experience of? Most of us have been mislead in the past by nice sounding forum posts that came from people's imaginations.

Luke

Who says you have to write them yourself?

I very rarely wite my own articles, I have a team of writers
and I use submission services such as iSnare to distribute
my articles.

Hence my earlier point about leverage.


John

Tom, I usually agree with you, but I have to disagree with you about the "quantity" problem.

I don't believe the quantity is the problem. It's the quality.

Because a quality article gives you a long-term ROI that PPC usually can't match.

Don't get me wrong - PPC is great for driving new traffic, fast. But unless you've got everything else in place, your PPC dollars will burn fast and hot and leave you with a fistful of ashes.

Article marketing, on the other hand, is a slower, quieter way of driving traffic. But, like PPC, if done right, article marketing can be very effective.

And either way, you're exchanging time for money.

When I started freelancing I wrote about 6 articles, and posted them on (I think) EzineArticles and maybe a few other sites. Took me a focused day of w.o.r.k. to "churn" out those first articles, but I wanted to be sure they were quality.

A couple of them got picked up in just a few places. The others went viral beyond anything I had anticipated. They are STILL getting picked up by other web sites - 6 years later. And I haven't done a darn thing to them since I originally posted them.

My tracking stats tell me that those articles are still sending traffic to my web site, directly from the article being posted on someone else's site. Some of them have wound up being published in places I didn't expect. In particular, I've gotten quite a bit of copywriting business from one particular article on design that was picked up by a bunch of design sites.

I've also written articles to drive traffic to my other (non-writing-related) sites, and tracking tells me that about 30% of that traffic results in a conversion of some sort.

So I believe that, when people get no response from their article marketing, the problem is either:

a) they have no market for their article subject or,
b) they have posted a crappy article.

Unfortunately, crappy articles abound. And it's been my experience that a crappy article usually leads to a crappy landing page. So.....

Article marketing is not crap. It has its place in any well-conceived marketing plan. As long as your articles are not crap.

BUT...

Article marketing won't generate traffic within minutes. For that, nothing beats PPC. And PPC, directed to the right landing page, will make you a lot of money, fast.

OTOH, PPC, directed to a crappy landing page, will decimate your bank account faster than the Big 3 can beg for another handout.

The key thing is... article marketing can work to drive both traffic and sales IF your articles are not crap.

Ay, and therein lies the rub.

100% agreed.

Sometimes, in order to succeed, a person needs to
have something as a goal.

And avoiding financial risk is ALSO a goal.

When it comes to article marketing, as John Taylor
stated, it's all about leverage - and that's why I
stand on the side of article marketing.

However, EXACTLY because there's no financial
risk, some people tend to get lazy and not churn
out the "magic number" of articles... which I believe
to be around 200-300 articles.

There are the lucky people who get sales after a
few articles but it's not that common for others.
So, in article marketing, if quality is lacking, anyone
can make up for it with quantity (of course, quantity
+ quality is the best combo).

There's a lot of advantage for PPC which you have
posted before in response and I also agree with
them - a lot of results is gotten very quickly because
you paid for it.

As for advice for beginners in PPC, you've answered it
in the very first post... "learn to use PPC". Keyword
is learn and I always recommend people to get a good
PPC product from people like Perry Marshall.

And yep, I recognized that you were aiming for a
discussion very early on - that's why I didn't think you
were "attacking" me

Asher

She is in Bev Stealth mode.

With time zone differences I'm only just coming back to this.

You say you want a discussion, no you didn't because in your OP you said this.

You want people to agree with you 100%.

It seems that the comment under your avatar and your OP go hand in hand, because you are stating a fact that you are right and the rest are wrong.

And if this has been covered further on in the thread, I'm still reading.

Considering that you've titled your thread "I don't care what you say...",
I can't help but wonder if it's really discussion you want or attention.

Thanks!

It really is just a goof... I'm not that full of myself

I see that instantaneous feedback is helpful at time but, how is it quicker and easier to scale?

If you are using ppc you can't just increase your spending for your current keywords as it may then become unprofitable so you have to do the research, test keywords for profitability, write landing pages (/get them written for you), etc etc whilst with article marketing you pay someone to do keyword research and then buy more articles - roughly the same in terms of how much work you need to do.

I don't currently do either but in terms of the time it takes you personally to do either i don't quite see how it is easier to scale (pay for more clicks vs pay for more articles) it looks roughly the same to me, only thing is you're hit upfront with articles whereas you only pay for clicks with ppc.

Decided to antagonize a little, huh Jack.

Did I say that I've never written articles?

I've done article marketing before... I've written
tons of articles in the past.

And yes... I have removed most of them...

Why?

Because, I don't believe in it. But, there have been several
times in my career that I've attempted to take it serious.

So what are you trying to prove?

You seem to think that I'm against it because
of a lack of success...

That's not the case.

But, it's cool - have your fun.

Take care

Thomas,
Not really antagoninzing...just trying to "frame" the overall discussion where it needs to be.

Article Marketing doesn't suck...Article Marketing done wrong sucks...

...and PPC done wrong REALLY sucks.

Hi Leslie - It was not my intention to provide impressive stats; and, if I had the sales stats, I would have provided them. However, I cannot separate sales made through Article Marketing, at present, from my other methods.

My point was that incoming links are an essential part of SEO. I don't use paid methods like PPC at present, so all my income comes from free methods; and Article Marketing is part of that strategy.

Will

You can investigate and deduce whatever you like...

I'm not interested in passing anyone's sniff test... I've written articles and I've received traffic from them.

When I compare it to other ways of driving traffic - it's a waste of time to me.

I don't want to personally write or outsource the writing of hundreds of high or low quality articles.

And, if you check EZA - those articles no longer exist.

What your are presenting as evidence from Article Base won't come down because I don't know what email address I used to create those accounts.

I understand what you are trying to prove... and you can continue to do so.

My reasons for being opposed to article marketing are simple...

There are many other, much more effective, and less time consuming things that you can do other than writing good or bad articles