Can't we all just work together?

Mike,

There is no blueprint or holy grail that will give you guaranteed success.

If you think a WSO can solve your money problems, then you're sadly mistaken.

That being said, I truly believe that everything you NEED to succeed is available, for FREE, right here in the forum, if you are willing to search for it and if you apply it properly, in a way that suits YOU the best.

Simply following a model of what someone else did is no way a guarantee for another person's success.

There is no magic pill or secret code to being successful.

It comes down to YOU.


Cheers,

Daryl

Why aren't they sharing? Because any true goldmine (which I'm assuming is what you're looking for) would get saturated if they were sharing it with the millions of people who view the Warrior Forum every month. If it's not a goldmine, but a profitable business that takes time and effort, you'll find plenty of those examples here.
Think about it, if you had access to a $2 million dollar goldmine would you run and tell a bunch of strangers online about it just to help people out? If so you're a better man than me (and most of the people around here).
Good luck,
Alex.

And what do you have to offer? For those of us that have figured it out (create a real business) we put a lot of sweat equity in to see results. We had to figure it out so what's wrong with you not wanting to figure it out?

We didn't get to where we are overnight you know... We didn't just wake up one day and become successful.

It's a process and unless you go through the process you won't understand the key things that make an online business really work.

I see you've had some smaller successes and just can't quite get over the hump. Well, you need to test different things to get better results. You're on the right track so now you have to refine your process.

You are tracking your traffic and split testing your landing pages... right?

Keep going... try paid traffic (and not just once) but continue to stream paid traffic to your landing pages, find out which one is your control and then try to beat it to increase your results. Become more innovative in your product creation and look for JV partners. (JV partners will be hard to come by without actual stats of your website conversions, etc.)

There are a few people in the WSO area sharing what they know

people don't mind sharing a MLM though lol earn from all of them!!

Look at sources like venturebeat or the INC5000 fastest growing list for businesses that are getting it done.

WSO's can be some good tools and ideas. But a truck full of great tools won't get the house built.

Swing that hammer man!

I put out diamonds in the rough all the time, I use them up first but I put them out when they don't produce like they used too.

If somebody has a system that makes them 10 k a month, and they post there system here.

One everyone here would copy and do it and alot would sell the system, so not only do we saturate the market with this forum but the whole internet.

Now you can find your own system, use those wso's as a guide and test, and test and test till you see something that works. Stay with one program when you make money from it then move on or expand on that one thing you did and make it greater.

Very few of us, including me has ever just had someone hand us a money making machine or a button we push and walla were rich. We all started from scratch and found our own place here and the large majority of us were just like you, we turned and twisted our necks to see what everyone else was selling and flipping from program to program.

When we finally learned to focus and stick to one thing and do split testing and track clicks ect, then we started realizing a profit.

Sad that 98 percent of the people can't go the distant and get that far.

Instead of focusing on just paid traffic, master your skill at a few free traffic methods. One for example is forum marketing.

There are some people getting 10,000 + visitors a month to their website with just forums. All they do is create an article or video, post it in forums, and continue to do this each day.

Some other free methods are...

- Blog commenting
- Guest posting
- Writing articles
- SEO
- Creating newsletters
- Social Bookmarking
- Blogging
- Social Media

If you got good at just a few, say YouTube, and article marketing -- you could be bringing in thousands of visitor a month easily.

As to your follow up messages -- As Mike said above me you want to provide your prospects with MASSIVE value with some entertainment thrown in there.

People only buy from people they know, like, and trust -- so add your personality into your emails and give them some great value. The best is where you show actual proof and results, and something they can take action on immediately.

Making money online is not complicated -- but does require work and contestant effort to become successful. Just like anything worth getting in life.

Hope this helps you

Mike - people do share. A LOT. The thing is that...there is no real blueprint to IM success (or anything, for that matter). Every IM-er on this forum has different opinions on what works and what doesn't because different things have worked for different people.

The trick is figuring out for yourself what works for you. No one can really lay it out for you. There is general advice, of course, but you have to figure out the nitty gritty for yourself - not because people don't want to share, but because what they have to share will not be as relevant for you as you figuring it out yourself.

I've learned a lot on this forum by doing my own thing and then consulting it for specific advice (most of which is as varied as the people on this forum) when I need it.

The most important thing is that you do your own thing. Figure out what works and doesn't work for you. And keep on plodding on. Persistence pays in IM.

I think people here had been sharing their own tastes of successes. People do share how they've done it and all, although it's not really with full details how they do it. I don't know but I think that's unnecessary. We all have our secrets to success. If that is the one that is fueling the success, I bet no one would like to put that out straight to the public.

There are people here who ask about getting online profits, or how to get a job online, or how to earn money online. Fellow members can only direct to sites they can check and apply. The rest is up to you. You know. I hope this makes sense.

I am genuinely amazed at your question. Perhaps you haven't been around here for long enough to realise that some people here are very generous with what they are prepared to share. I won't name any names because I would be sure to miss some people, but really, it is very easy to discern who is walking their talk. When you find such people, use the search facility and read all of their posts - you will find a goldmine of information here - free - right under your nose.

Will

And you're aspiring to be a professional salesman, yeah? Maybe try to sell and see where that takes you?

Translates to, I don't want to do the hard work those who are successful have already done. I just want to be shown the easy route.

Not going to happen.

Those who are successful have (in most cases) worked very hard to get there. So why on earth would they want to just give it away to people who don't want to do the hard work themselves?

Some will want to help others but they will charge good money for you to learn from them and rightly so.

There are a lot of people who answer newbie questions and give out tons of valuable info on this forum every day.

What you're looking for is a blueprint ... everyone just to lay out their blueprints for you to follow. There are many different ways that people on this forum make money and most of them are discussed in detail in the subforums.

You are actually going to have to do the work yourself, find the info, make your own plan and implement it. Not everyone is going to succeed in this business. Those who can't or won't learn and those who can't take the information here and implement it, probably are among those who aren't going to make it.

This is a business/marketing forum. Not a commune.

Why aren't they sharing?

People are sharing PLENTY.

I've learned so much just quietly browsing threads and I have never bought a WSO from any forum. If you've been searching hard enough, you would certainly find the answer to any of your problems.

You can learn so much not by looking for the WSO, or even the "here's my method" threads. I actually learn most from threads where knowledgeable members are arguing with each other. Terms pop up, they reference people and say certain things that lead me to say "hmm, let me google this. what are they talking about?" one thing leads to another and a month later you've learned 100 different things.

But the best way to learn is to just TRY. And when you've come across a problem, google that shit for hours and TRY until you've finally solved it. I'm telling you this from personal experience.

The beauty of this thing is, you're not the first person trying to do internet marketing. This means any question you have, I guarantee it has been answered or someone can easily provide you the answer. Once you know the basics, all you need is a little creativity and hard work.

I'll give you a simple method that I first started off with:

Join a PPD network
Find a niche (something people want)
Make a landing page offering that thing (or buy one)
Make a nice youtube video(or buy one on a site like fiverr.com), SEO it and pay 10 bucks for high quality boost views and rank
In that video, send them to your landing page
Make them complete a survey before getting it using the PPD content locker
Eventually, learn to rank that page on google search for better earnings

I made hundreds and overtime, thousands with this method and I had no previous knowledge of anything. Just the ability to research until I succeeded.

From doing this simple method, this is what I learned in the process by myself using google as "problems got in the way":

How to find a niche
How to make a good landing page with no knowledge of coding, and how to make it convert well
What is SEO, and how is it done
How do I find a good service provider
How I set up a content locker with no knowledge of coding
How to use social media like facebook/twitter to market
How to try and avoid google penalties

Now everything I learned is transferable to other areas that I choose to venture to and it's a little easier. You may even along the way find "your" thing. Something you had no idea you'd be great at.



Nothing "just works". Because you aren't willing to work hard/smart enough to make it work. That's just the vibe I get off of you.

This sounds corny, but if your heart isn't in it, you ain't gonna make it. You will miss the very simple things because you're in a rush.

Many of us have, sometimes people don't want to listen (as is their right, but it's also my right on how I choose to spend my time and with whom).

I wanted to address this because it illustrates a very important point and the perception some people have of marketers who have already figured it out. For the sake of this point, let's leave out all the sleazey ones that we know exist. I want to focus on the good people who DO exist in this forum (as well as many others).

First off, there are a lot of things that go on behind the scenes in Skype chats, private forums, PMs, e-mails, etc. that you'll never see here in this public forum. I've seen a lot of people get help from other members that way because I've been part of that process. There used to be a time when I first joined here where I would take newbies under my wing and mentor them. Some of them have gone off to become very successful entrepreneurs.

And I did it all for free.

However, that was the small minority. The majority of the people were looking for something easy and weren't really willing to do the hard work necessary to build the foundation of a real online business. Now part of that was my fault for having no screening process whatsoever and not managing expectations, which then turned into an inadequate screening process and it created some misunderstandings.

I've learned that if people don't have something invested they generally won't take any mentoring or coaching seriously. I'm not going to get into the details of how much grief I went through trying to help people back then, but suffice to say not everyone was ready to be coached. I completely understand why people charge for their coaching advice now. The more successful (and busy) they are, the more charge.

I have my own projects and a staff to manage. I also come from a large family and enjoy spending much of my free time with them as well as my circle of friends. I have a lot of interests and hobbie that also keep me very busy, so I'm very selective on who I pick to work with, especially a stranger who is coming to me for advice.

I give out some general advice here and there in this forum and occasionally I will talk to someone offline via a Skype chat or send them a word of encouragement. Sometimes that's the best I can offer at that time.

So for many of us who have "already made it", it's not always as simple as we don't want to help or share, sometimes it's as simple as we don't know who you are, we don't know how serious and motivated you are, and sometimes we simply have other priorities at the moment.

Let me give you one example of what I'm talking about.

I do a lot of testing and some of my tests last for months. I have one particular test that's lasted over a year and I was able to discover a very killer system for making consistent income. This one particular test took thousands of dollars and many, many hours to figure out. To be frank, I'm not going to share that kind of information with just anybody.

I see people helping others all the time, sometimes the other party isn't always receptive to it.

RoD

The only way you get what you want, is first, helping enough other people get what they want.

"So my question is, why aren't they sharing?"

It's just like a gold miner or a fisherman. Once someone discovers a money making resource they don't want the competition to come and suck everything dry. This is just the basics of business and there's nothing wrong with it.

Mike,

Here are my suggestions. It's obvious you're a straight talker so I'm going to respond in a way that I think you will understand.

I'm going to be blunt and straightforward. Stop reading my post right now if you don't want to hear the truth.

1. Open your eyes. Be more observant. Learn how to take the advice that's being given here and apply it to your own situation and business.

You know, I see successful people sharing their ideas, thoughts, strategies, business models, and blueprints every day of the week right here on the Warrior Forum. Could it be that you aren't paying attention to the right things? Could it be that the answers you want are right under your nose but you fail to observe and are looking for, and expecting, a silver platter be handed to you?

2. You are getting hung up on the money aspect of creating a business when in reality, it's not about the money at all.

There is solid enough information right here for anyone to study, learn, practice, and develop a profitable business. Money isn't the key and if you continue believing that money is what's keeping you from success, then you will continue to struggle. Certainly there are some basic items that money will buy you (hosting, domain name, yada, yada) but it is not what separates the successful business owners apart from the rest.

3. You are the business. Your success or failure is solely the result what you think, plan, and do.

Don't blame your lack of success on the fact that others aren't sharing how they have succeeded. Don't blame it on not having money for paid advertising or anything else. Step up and be 100% accountable for your success or failure with Internet business. Once you develop this mindset, your will cherish every little bit of help you get from others - without this mindset, you will always wonder why no one is willing to help you.

4. Realize that creating a profitable business and a full time income is not an easy task. It takes some creativity, often a lot of trial and error, usually changes and modifications to your original idea, and most often significant time. There are "fail points" all along the way. I've observed a lot of start up businesses and I can tell you with total confidence that only the strong survive. Very, very rarely does it happen that an entrepreneur, right out of the gate, experiences success. Those that refuse to give up, are observant and adaptable, and work around obstacles are the ones that eventually create profitable businesses.

5. Get rid of the chip on your shoulder. Successful business people owe you nothing. Having experienced a lot of newbies coming to the forum and demanding help, it's easy to see which ones have a chance for success and which ones will be gone quickly. I applaud your past efforts. It's admirable that you are not a whining and that you've lasted all these years and are still working on your business. But I sense a frustration and a burr under your saddle that is not conducive to endearing those who can help you. Try a little harder to be more observant than demanding.

6. Be sure you've picked a good niche and monetization strategy. When business owners have worked long and hard at something and are totally without answers as to why they can't gain traction, often the answer lies in the fact that they're fishing in a lake that is devoid of fish. It happens all the time. Many entrepreneurs overlook this basic step in online business. Check the niche for hungry, money-laden buyers. Check your product or service and make sure it is in demand. Check your offer, sales page, and copy for it's relevance, appeal, and exceptional value. If it lacks any of these three characteristics you will only be minimally successful.

I'll stop there. This post has enough to get you headed in the right direction if you'll accept a little constructive criticism.

Honestly, I hope you have all the success in the world.

Steve

What's there to figure out? All of those things you mentioned work and you can make plenty of money with them. What's more, all the information required to make money with those methods can easily be found online.

Naturally there is information which is more specific, such as particular traffic sources, but such information, while helpful, is not required to build a business. You can build a successful business by using "common methods" if you're serious.

The basic information and methods to make money online are out there. Its not everyone that is comfortable revealing their technique.