5+5+5

Lemme get my calculator an' get back to you.

Math is not my strong point so gonna try for January.

I'm no expert but it looks boring as all get out to me, and if I were a child it would be even more boring to me. If I tried that stunt on my son, who is around grade 3 level in math at 5-years-old, he'd definitely walk away and do something else.
I think the way to get students interested in math is to show them such things as
1. the gorgeous visual results of Benoit Mandelbrot's discovery of fractal geometry.
2.Take kids out and show them Fibonacci sequences in nature.
3.Have group drum lessons and show the math involved in drumming.
4. Play videos like this:
NOTE: The visual description of golden spirals in nautilus shells in the video is erroneous. This is how it really is:

I suspect that all we have here is a writer (and headline writer) that did not understand the underlying concern. It sounds like it's strictly a semantical issue, i.e., not that it's "better" to think of it that way, but that, strictly speaking, in our culture, "5x3" does mean "five three's", just as we say "5 cars" or "5z" in algebra. (In English, we never say "cars 5", and in algebra, you rarely see "z5".)

The fact that five three's is equal to three five's is also important, but that's a separate step. First we need to be on the same page about communicating the basics, and then we have the tools necessary to teach and understand the commutative property, (i.e., that 5x3 = 3x5).

I'm not defending Common Core, but it seems that every time there's an incendiary article about it, it's written by someone that didn't (or couldn't) understand the underlying math... and that's pretty sad, if you think about it.

You're all wrong, 15+0 = 15 is easier.

I voted against common core, because of the way it was presented to me. When the guidance counselor spoke about it, it seemed to me to be another "No Child Left Behind" BS scheme designed to keep kids flowing through the school system, even if they haven't earned it.

Leveling the playing field (by lowering the bar again) between the "not so gifted" (AKA not being required to study at home, by their parents) and the kids who are actually required to perform their studies (gifted, nowadays)

The first school my daughter went to required Common Core. Hate to say it, but a lot of the kids there are plumb dumb. The types of "winners" that specific school system pumps out aren't exactly Harvard bound. It's a low income area, with low income housing, and the parents don't exactly stand up to fight for their child's education. Most of the teachers had a negative vibe to them, as if they carried a chip on their shoulder.

In her new school, they gave her Common Core, but then realized she wasn't a dumbass and put her into Advanced Placement (old school teaching?) classes. She's finally started thriving and loving school because of the AP/AR classes. Those use to be standard when I went to school.

I think CC / NCLB is hog wash to keep parents from feeling like their kids a bit on the touched side or taking responsibility for their child not being at the top of the class. Same with the "No Child Left Behind" rules. If the child can't pass the grade, don't pass them. It's a pretty simple concept, I think.

Yeah, it may not be the child's fault, but don't give the parents an out to blame them not raising their child properly on the school system. I've heard that numerous times, waiting to pick my daughter up from her first school -- how hard the schooling is for their kid, but then how much time the parents don't spend making sure their kid understands what's being taught and exactly what the parents are doing with their free time. Pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

I was expected to get good grades in school, or figure out why and ask for help when I couldn't understand it. In no way, shape, or form, was my learning dumbed down to make sure the "touched" kids could keep up. Nope, they got held back a grade and the parents had to answer for it. Back before handing out pills to kids like candy was the thing to do.

To contribute, 3x5 = 15, 5x3 = 15.

/rant (apologies for stepping on any toes -- Common Core and NCLB are topics I've disagreed with from the beginning.)

I would say it would be best if kids start with set theory.

This way we can identify those with IQs below 70, and start culling the herd.

kekeke!

Common Core are the same folks behind the Sarah Palin campaign via the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon.

Google it.

What if you have only 14 students?

Aw, 5318008, I am such a goof.

What did I miss, David Beroff has been banned from Warrior Forum.

it is indisputable

d+a+v+i+d+b+e+r+o+f+f = b+a+n+n+e+d

now that is smart and rational

Looks like my theory about the universe being ruled by an evil ruminant was wrong.

Welcome back to the flipside, Dave.

If someone owes me $15, payment could come in fifteen $1 bills, $10 and $5 bills, three $5 bills, or other denomination combinations. Heck, he could pay me in coins. As long as I get paid $15, we're good. Otherwise, I'd bite his ear off.