Content is king !

SEO Power

12 years ago

Content is not king. Backlinks and authority and targeting long tail keywords constitute a good SEO strategy.

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oghenk 11 years ago

Yes, content is not king. but SEO.
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Kieth76 11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO Power

Content is not king. Backlinks and authority and targeting long tail keywords constitute a good SEO strategy.

I somehow agree with this kind of perception because it's not all the time that content can push a website to higher rankings. Thanks
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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by olivia69

Yes, We know that informative content is the king.
Good and informative contents helps to increase SEO performance.

Share your ideas about it

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My idea is you don't understand Google could care less about content quality when ranking pages.

Googlbot doesn't comprehend quality text like a human. They understand relevancy but that's only because they have a database like a thesaurus (associated keywords).

Thesaurus
A book that lists words in groups of synonyms and related concepts.

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is. Bounce rate, avg time spent on page, returning visitor, visitor clicking to other pages throughout the site, people commenting, people sharing etc, these are all signs that tell Google whether or not the page is worthy of a higher ranking.

I'm currently ranking for a competitive keyword, and I did no backlinking, no shenanigans, no nothing, and my site is new with the domain authority only at 15.

I believe that it's ranking well because of all the factors that I mentioned are good.

The page has about 5,000 words which is packed with good quality info.

Good content wins.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is. Bounce rate, avg time spent on page, returning visitor, visitor clicking to other pages throughout the site, people commenting, people sharing etc, these are all signs that tell Google whether or not the page is worthy of a higher ranking.

I'm currently ranking for a competitive keyword, and I did no backlinking, no shenanigans, no nothing, and my site is new with the domain authority only at 15.

I believe that it's ranking well because of all the factors that I mentioned are good.

The page has about 5,000 words which is packed with good quality info.

Good content wins.

Google is oblivious to quality content.

Bounce rate could be any number of things that has nothing to do with quality content (content for humans). Example, a crappy host could cause a high bounce rate.

Lol, you don't build links but you look at fake metrics (DA), hows that for shenanigans?

Having 5,000 words isn't ranking any page. I have hundreds of pages that average a sentence of text per page, been ranking for years & still average 7 page views per unique traffic over several domains.

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

Whenever I search Google, the content that I come across is always good.

Are you saying that the DA is fake? well then it looks like I've been had, and played for a fool. But either way, I'm pretty sure that my site basically has no authority at all, no rights, no brand awareness, little backlinks, as it's new.

The long post resulted in visitors spending a crap load of time on the page, returning to the page and other good signs.

A wise man once said; “length is strength” Source: How Important is Content Length? Why Data-Driven SEO Trumps Guru Opinions - The serpIQ Blog

Anyway, if my page is not ranking based on the quality of the content, then heck if I know how it got up there.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Whenever I search Google, the content that I come across is always good.

You've come across relevancy.

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Are you saying that the DA is fake? well then it looks like I've been had, and played for a fool. But either way, I'm pretty sure that my site basically has no authority at all, no rights, no brand awareness, little backlinks, as it's new.

Yes, you've been had,it's called a sales funnel. If you haven't already done it, your one step closer to buying a product that preaches DA. Domains don't have authority, pages have authority via links.

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

The long post resulted in visitors spending a crap load of time on the page, returning to the page and other good signs.

That's nice, I can do the same with 1 sentence of text per page.

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

A wise man once said; "length is strength" Source: How Important is Content Length? Why Data-Driven SEO Trumps Guru Opinions - The serpIQ Blog

You've been duped again, yet another sales funnel. Did you get your free account?

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alex93

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

# I have hundreds of pages that average a sentence of text per page, been ranking for years & still average 7 page views per unique traffic over several domains.

Not to piss in anyone's pool but 7 page views only compels the importance of more than a sentence of text on a page, i average 7000 views per page, i would estimate i viewed my own page more than 7 times to make adjustments.

Just dont factor how you can say i rank hundreds of pages with only 7 views per page is any metric that is useful, unless it is not a well known niche.

Just thinking out loud, doesn't make much sense?

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by alex93

Not to piss in anyone's pool but 7 page views only compels the importance of more than a sentence of text on a page, i average 7000 views per page, i would estimate i viewed my own page more than 7 times to make adjustments.

Just dont factor how you can say i rank hundreds of pages with only 7 views per page is any metric that is useful, unless it is not a well known niche.

Just thinking out loud, doesn't make much sense?

Your good, 7,000 page views for each person (unique traffic) that visits your site!

Rock on!

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alex93

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Your good, 7,000 page views for each person (unique traffic) that visits your site!

Rock on!

Not for each person obviously, overall, during the period when the game is popular, nice way to avoid the question though.

Rock on.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by alex93

Not for each person obviously, overall, during the period when the game is popular, nice way to avoid the question though.

Rock on.

I didn't avoid the question, I said Rock on!

I knew you misunderstood when I said 7 page views per unique traffic because nobody in this world is getting 7,000 page views for each unique traffic.

What I said & what you said aren't even the same things. I was talking about each unique traffic/person while your talking about every single person combined that visits a webpage. Completely different things...

Lol, how did I end up back in this thread...

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alex93

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Lol, how did I end up back in this thread...

I wanted you in it lol, how would i go about traffic internal page views from one page, not something iv really thought about, probably misunderstood this as well.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by alex93

I wanted you in it lol, how would i go about traffic internal page views from one page, not something iv really thought about, probably misunderstood this as well.

That's easy, series content where you break down a subject into multiple post/pages but each individual webpage can stand on it's own for traffic.

Say for instance traffic is searching for keywords related to building garage foundations, but you have a series of say 10 webpages on your site that covers every single step of building a complete garage (foundation, framing, roofing, installing doors, siding, etc...).

Now back to the traffic that was searching Google for building garage foundations, they'll land on your foundation webpage & find related internal links to all the other garage building sub-topics. Easy CTR boosting because odds are the people searching for garage foundation building are very interested in any other relevant info. on garage building.

So..., instead of one monstrous webpage covering every single detail of garage building, break the subject down into multiple tightly linked internal pages that will help rank all the related pages. That allows you to focus entire webpages on sub-niches (ex: garage foundations, garage framing, garage roofing, garage doors, etc...).

Look into SEO silos.

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alex93 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Look into SEO silos.

I think i am doing this already but will look into it, i have many keywords on pages relating to the main keyword, like trailers, images, cheats, so good internal linking, i assume that is what silos is, will take a look anyway.

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hipeopo02

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is.

"good content" is a subjective term. Humans don't even have a set definition of what "good content" is...

don't be a knucklehead.

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

Originally Posted by hipeopo02

"good content" is a subjective term. Humans don't even have a set definition of what "good content" is...

don't be a knucklehead.

There's nothing wrong with being a knucklehead.

Run a Google search, and check out the top 10 results and then check out the bottom 10 results. Odds are that you'll come across some pretty crap content on those bottom 10 results compared to what you'll get with the top 10 results.

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hipeopo02

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

There's nothing wrong with being a knucklehead.

Run a Google search, and check out the top 10 results and then check out the bottom 10 results. Odds are that you'll come across some pretty crap content on those bottom 10 results compared to what you'll get with the top 10 results.

Within those top results it's wikipedia on top everytime and several 3rd party sites scattered throughout.

So....Wikipedia is the the best content....?

No, it's just got the most pages and best backlinks.....

usually the topic specific sites show up underneath.

Why would Google choose wiki over entire sites dedicated to the topic?

...

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I'll wait.....

In case you missed it the first time: "it's just got the most pages and best backlinks.....

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st0nec0ld 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is. .

Google doesn't know what good content is, people does.
So, if people like a content it gives a signal to search engines (like Google) that this content is valuable.
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bymarcot

12 years ago

Content isn`t king. It`s all how you present the content to Google (headings, interlinking, subheadings, images, basically all onpage SEO). You can check how Google sees your content when you search site:yourdomain.com and choose Search tools - reading level. Most have Basic level. Even my autogenerated content (which isn`t readable) is having intermediate and advanced readeing level as Google shows. And i´m only generating this content to search engines and show converting content (which would never rank that high) to real visitors and have high conversion rates. Content costs 0 but conversion level is amazing.

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

All valid points.

I checked my site's reading level and got nothing.

Basic 0%
Intermediate 0%
Advanced 0%

Have I not been rated yet?

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bymarcot

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

All valid points.

I checked my site's reading level and got nothing.

Basic 0%
Intermediate 0%
Advanced 0%

Have I not been rated yet?

Sometimes it takes time. I´ve checked the reading level of "high quliaty content" providers and it`s all basic level. My latest autogenerated content with 10k+ indexed pages and new onpage layout (template to present content to Google) has this result imgur: the simple image sharer So i need to tweak a little to get Advanced level (although even if you search any topic you hardly find any Advanced level content).

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

What are you people? a bunch of BlackHat(ers)?

I've always been interested in paparazzing some auto generated content, but never got around to it.

Do you slap up a site, then set up some auto generating content tool and then let it go - so it's like a "set it and forget it" deal?.

What are the results like? how much traffic are we looking at here?

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

What are you people? a bunch of BlackHat(ers)?

I've always been interested in paparazzing some auto generated content, but never got around to it.

Do you slap up a site, then set up some auto generating content tool and then let it go - so it's like a "set it and forget it" deal?.

What are the results like? how much traffic are we looking at here?

If by Black Hat you mean ranking pages, yes, we're all Black Hat.

Personally I could care less about labels (white hat vs black hat), all I care about when it comes to the SERPs is ranking my pages, not sitting around waiting on something magical to happen on it's own. You can pussyfoot around all day or get down to business & rank pages.

I don't use any automated content. I use public domain content, make a few edits, upload it to my sites, traffic whips out a credit card & downloads the content. Repeat...

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

All valid points.

I checked my site's reading level and got nothing.

Basic 0%
Intermediate 0%
Advanced 0%

Have I not been rated yet?

The SERP Reading Level has nothing to do with ranking pages.

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

The SERP Reading Level has nothing to do with ranking pages.

I called valid points on how you present your content with the on-page side of things.

I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.

Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

I called valid points on how you present your content with the on-page side of things.

I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.

Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.

Reading Level has been around for at least 5 years, it's hardly new.

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?

On-page SEO + backlink profile is all you need to look at, those two things rank pages.

PA & DA can both be skewed.

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bymarcot

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

I called valid points on how you present your content with the on-page side of things.

I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.

Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?

PA, DA and every info which isn`t provided by Google publicly isn`t accurate. These are third-party metrics. Like PR which is good to mention when you sell links but the real PR isn`t public anymore.

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

Originally Posted by bymarcot

PA, DA and every info which isn`t provided by Google publicly isn`t accurate. These are third-party metrics. Like PR which is good to mention when you sell links but the real PR isn`t public anymore.

Cheers

Okay it's not 100% accurate, but it's as close as you're gonna get. It's not like they've put out a completely dud metric for the sake of selling product

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Okay it's not 100% accurate, but it's as close as you're gonna get. It's not like they've put out a completely dud metric for the sake of selling product

Actually that's exactly what they've done, they don't rank pages, they're fluff. Welcome to the sales funnel.

Originally Posted by justicejr

The high quality useful and epic content in your site will get hugh traffic and share to get high quality backlink.

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Originally Posted by alexxanderzeus

it is infarct true because Google always search for fresh content.. But there are exceptions always.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Actually that's exactly what they've done, they don't rank pages, they're fluff. Welcome to the sales funnel.

Guys disregard this poster. He has a long history of being upset with moz because they required a credit card for a trial and he didn't have one.

IF you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles

Do the google search and you will see he is not to be believed

EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam. Yes m Oz and majestic ratings can be faked too. thts why its best to use majestic and Moz together

fact is Pagerank has not been updated in a year and a half looking at the backlinks without using a metric like he is telling you to do will do nothing. You will have no way of knowing the strength of a link unless you look at some metric

What he is telling you to do is stupid just based out of Moz hate. go ahead look at a link and tell me without a metric how it tells you how strong the link is.

Silliness.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Guys disregard this poster. He has a long history of being upset with moz because they required a credit card for a trial and he didn't have one.

IF you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles

Do the google search and you will see he is not to be believed

EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam. Yes m Oz and majestic ratings can be faked too. thts why its best to use majestic and Moz together

fact is Pagerank has not been updated in a year and a half looking at the backlinks without using a metric like he is telling you to do will do nothing. You will have no way of knowing the strength of a link unless you look at some metric

What he is telling you to do is stupid just based out of Moz hate. go ahead look at a link and tell me without a metric how it tells you how strong the link is.

Silliness.

Moz is a rookie hangout, apparently your still a rookie. Basic SEO, BS homemade metrics that are easily skewed. Nobody cares about your PR rant.

Any real SEO knows to avoid the silly IM gimmicks (PA, DA, etc..).

How's that PBN thing working out, still getting complaints for not delivering?

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dgerryd

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Guys disregard this poster. He has a long history of being upset with moz because they required a credit card for a trial and he didn't have one.

IF you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles

Do the google search and you will see he is not to be believed

EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam. Yes m Oz and majestic ratings can be faked too. thts why its best to use majestic and Moz together

fact is Pagerank has not been updated in a year and a half looking at the backlinks without using a metric like he is telling you to do will do nothing. You will have no way of knowing the strength of a link unless you look at some metric

What he is telling you to do is stupid just based out of Moz hate. go ahead look at a link and tell me without a metric how it tells you how strong the link is.

Silliness.

Believe me I'm not one for getting into BS shite But @Mike Anthony your dissing on what @Yukon said from a complete BS arguement something I believe you might be behind in "SEO" here is a statement you made

"EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam"

Do you actually realize that Larry Page/Google were the inventors/adopters of PR ? Please tel me you didn't and you don't think that "MOZ" & "MJ" no better than Goolge when Google are stingy not sharers of that data ? I don't know @Yukon but I can tell you he know's more about Seo and actual rankings than your giving him credit for and I suspect that's from testing not from reading "MOZ" !

You do know MOZ are a third party "SEO SOFTWARE COMPANY" that collect their data via Google & other sources and not actually an Seo Company ? Their main goal is to sell you on Seo truth & lies which ever brings the sales and "SALES" being the main event.

@Mike Anthony you would also know if you are an "SEO" that this statement is complete BS "if you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles" yes but any Seo will tell you they are flawed without knowledge and you cannot beat the trained eye, without the trained eye these tools are useless.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Okay it's not 100% accurate, but it's as close as you're gonna get. It's not like they've put out a completely dud metric for the sake of selling product

No they didn't . its been tested and is accepted among many Professionals The poster is lying

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IF he tells you to use PR then thats silliness too since its a metric google has said they will not be updating again and hasn't updated in over a year. Moz hasn't made up anything neither has Majestic. its a scientifically designed system made to replicate how link juiceflows. Since Google keeps their system secret it will never be 100% with Google but it gives you an indication quite often on the strength of domains and links

Again do the Google search for these metrics and who uses them and you will see Yukon does NOT know what he is talking about

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

No they didn't . its been tested and is accepted among many Professionals The poster is lying

Flow Metrics vs Moz Metrics vs Page Rank «

Why the Best PageRank Alternative Is Moz Domain Authority | SEOBlog.com

PageRank Dead?

IF he tells you to use PR then thats silliness too since its a metric google has said they will not be updating again and hasn't updated in over a year. Moz hasn't made up anything neither has Majestic. its a scientifically designed system made to replicate how link juiceflows. Since Google keeps their system secret it will never be 100% with Google but it gives you an indication quite often on the strength of domains and links

Again do the Google search for these metrics and who uses them and you will see Yukon does know what he is talking about

Sheeple, pure sheeple.

When/If you learn SEO you'll realize you've been duped, until then enjoy your moz account.

Lol, he read a blog, good stuff.

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MLMBarracks

12 years ago

Well, it looks like this thread about content being king has been hijacked on debates about DA/PR metrics.

Do these kind of shenanigans happen often around here?

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Well, it looks like this thread about content being king has been hijacked on debates about DA/PR metrics.

Do these kind of shenanigans happen often around here?

You was the first person in this thread to bring up DA.

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

I'm currently ranking for a competitive keyword, and I did no backlinking, no shenanigans, no nothing, and my site is new with the domain authority only at 15.

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MLMBarracks 12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

You was the first person in this thread to bring up DA.

Okay yeah that may be true, but I never carried on about it like a little panzy
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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MLMBarracks

Well, it looks like this thread about content being king has been hijacked on debates about DA/PR metrics.

Do these kind of shenanigans happen often around here?

threads will take detours. when issues are raised. fear not it hasn't been hijacked. the facts are obvious and the links prove the point. I at least am done on the issue

and YES content is king. It helps DRAMATICALLY with link building

A) No one wants to link to a site with crappy content
B) linking to crappy content is the number one dead giveaway to buying lin ks and link spam

So content even affects link building.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

threads will take detours. when issues are raised. fear not it hasn't been hijacked. the facts are obvious and the links prove the point. I at least am done on the issue

and YES content is king. It helps DRAMATICALLY with link building

A) No one wants to link to a site with crappy content
B) linking to crappy content is the number one dead giveaway to buying lin ks and link spam

So content even affects link building.

Yep, the blog links prove your clueless to what matters for ranking pages (text + links). Your homemade metrics are gimmicks, your confused since you've lost PR (the original metric).

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Sheeple, pure sheeple.

When/If you learn SEO you'll realize you've been duped, until then enjoy your moz account.

Lol, he read a blog, good stuff.

LOL who should people believe? you who no one knows or an internet full of professionals using Moz and majestic metrics and tools?

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Lol practically every professional SEO tool uses moz or Majestic. Tooooo funny.

This place has become a wasteland and its not the new people making it that way.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

LOL who should people believe? you who no one knows or an internet full of professionals using Moz and majestic metrics and tools?

A Quick Guide To The Metrics and Quality Signals To Use When Link Prospecting - Search Engine Journal

Why Google Hates Your Site (Hint: TrustRank Matters)

Domain Authority | Tips for your website

Why External Links, mozRank, and Domain Authority Matter for Your Business - SumAll

Lol practically every pofessional SEO tool uses moz or Majestic. Tooooo funny.

Lmao, professional BS (AKA IM sales funnel).

Keep posting your moz crap, proving your a newbie.

Even posted backlinko, you forgot about his 200 list where he just made up 100 fake items on the list so he could have more content than anyone else. FAIL. More crap doesn't make something useful. Tell your buddy El' Backlinko.

At least SEL was smart enough to post a disclaimer saying they made up a bogus algo name, unlike any of your other blog post blunders. Note: We’ve named this update the Pigeon update.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Oh Yukon you are such a funny kid.

Searhengineland is one of the most respected SEO sites on the internet. Have issues with backlinko? look at all the others, look at all the professional SEo tools that now use it and Majestic.

Epic fail. Get over the Moz hate.When it comes o metrics you live in a Majestic and Moz world. Public pagerank metrics are dead and Google themselves has said as much.

Now let the subject get back on track

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Oh Yukon you are such a funny kid.

Searhengineland is one of the most respected SEO sites on the internet. Have issues with backlinko? look at all the others, look at all the professional SEo tools that now use it and Majestic.

Epic fail. Get over the Moz hate.When it comes o metrics you live in a Majestic and Moz world. Public pagerank metrics are dead and Google themselves has said as much.

Now let the subject get back on track

You got it, professional BSers is all you've listed here.

I didn't say anything against SEL, twist & turn Mick.

Moz blows, unless your a newbie, but that's what, 3 months worth of content [meh].

Now let the subject get back on track

Lol, of all people on this forum, you don't need to be telling anyone to get on topic. Your the KING of derailed threads. Look at his history folks.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I didn't say anything against SEL, twist & turn Mick.

Search Engine land recommends Moz tooo so you better....ROFL......what a funny kid.

Good laugh for the morning but at the request of posters I'll let this get back on track,

toodles

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Search Engine land recommends Moz tooo so you better....ROFL.

Good laugh for the morning but at the request of posters I'll let this get back on track,

toodles

I never said SEL was perfect, hell, even you recommend moz, lol.

Now get back on track.

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MLMBarracks 12 years ago

Perhaps I did panzy around about metrics, but there's nothing wrong with being a panzy. Overall, I'm still sticking with "content is king."
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  Originally Posted by MLMBarracks
  
  Perhaps I did panzy around about metrics, but there's nothing wrong with being a panzy. Overall, I'm still sticking with "content is king."
  
  Whatever...
  
  Content alone will never rank a page for a traffic keyword, maybe some super longtail keyword with a couple traffic per month but you best be selling high end products/services for the ranked longtail page to even matter.
  
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Kevin Maguire

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

LOL who should people believe? you who no one knows or an internet full of professionals using Moz and majestic metrics and tools?

A Quick Guide To The Metrics and Quality Signals To Use When Link Prospecting - Search Engine Journal

Why Google Hates Your Site (Hint: TrustRank Matters)

Domain Authority | Tips for your website

Why External Links, mozRank, and Domain Authority Matter for Your Business - SumAll

Lol practically every professional SEO tool uses moz or Majestic. Tooooo funny.

This place has become a wasteland and its not the new people making it that way.

All of these third party data sets combined, only make up a small percentage of the web.

Most "professional" SEO, are well aware of that, most new SEO are definitely not.

The professional SEO, uses such tools in combinations of filtering to gain an indication of smell, for the quality of a domain. Where the new SEO, see's these metrics as the be all and end all of the buy decision. If they took every last metric of measure away right now, I would be absolutely fine with it.

Because

I have looked at the history of the domain I'm buying.
I know what a crap site looks like.
I've looked at the pages linking to it.
I know what crap links look like.
I've looked at the link profile.
I know what a crap profile looks like.

They're the real domain metric tools. Your EYES

So yes, content is King.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

All of these third party data sets combined, only make up a small percentage of the web.

Most "professional" SEO, are well aware of that, most new SEO are definitely not.

The professional SEO, uses such tools in combinations of filtering to gain an indication of smell, for the quality of a domain.
They're the real domain metric tools. Your EYES

Sure you look with your eyes. You always check any link resource for its backlinks. No one said different but you also use metrics when you look at the backlinks. Most of us have been crosschecking the domains and link resources we buy with PR backlinks to the page but those days are coming to a close.

There are MILLIONS of pages on the internet with great content and no ranking power.

If you are agreeing with Yukon that you can just look at the page and tell the strength of a link source without any metrics then be my guest and inform us all how this wonder is done.

And yes I would be definitely saying its a bunch of baloney and so would ANY truly professional SEO.

anyone or group is just blowing smoke to make the claim they can evaluate limk strength without relying on any metrics in the process. As they say in France - Garbaaawge

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Kevin Maguire

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Sure you look with your eyes. You always check any link resource for its backlinks. No one said different but you also use metrics when you look at the backlinks. Most of us have been crosschecking the domains and link resources we buy with PR backlinks to the page but those days are coming to a close.

There are MILLIONS of pages on the internet with great content and no ranking power.

If you are agreeing with Yukon that you can just look at the page and tell the strength of a link source without any metrics then be my guest and inform us all how this wonder is done.

And yes I would be definitely saying its a bunch of baloney and so would ANY truly professional SEO.

anyone or group is just blowing smoke to make the claim they can evaluate limk strength without relying on any metrics in the process. As they say in France - Garbaaawge

I completely agree with you, with the points you make about everyone "needing" some kind of metric to help at least filter out the plethora of junk out there. But that doesn't mean if Google takes away public visibility of the toolbar PR, there will be any dramatic shift in how the market estimates a domains value.

Being in the market for domains yourself, you know that yes PR, DA, PA, TF, CF can all be manipulated or outright faked. But I have never found it difficult to spot a fake one by seeing only 1 of the mentioned metrics and cross checking that with inbound links and filtering for blacklist anchors.

You can do that on an spreadsheet yourself, it's easy.

There is over 2 decades of data surrounding the PR algo. Almost all third party companies have identified the indexed internet hierarchy of pages. And most as you have noticed begun making moves to advanced their own algos even further. They have the data, and now they have a brand new customer base.

And if they don't do it quick enough for you. They publish their top domain data publicly. You can make your own TrustBase for free.

The market will move toward higher metric domains, leaving behind the more volatile lower end market. PBN's will become smaller, but stronger. Nothing changes.

Ironically, people will be only buying highly related PR4+ domains for PBN's and using the wash of low PR sites to go with their spam

When it has now become possible in SEO, to apply a negative. People will shift more toward a guaranteed positive. i.e Whitehat, Buyouts etc... But the playing field remains the same, and has it's own edges to be gained.

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nicktyler

12 years ago

Maybe content is King but the King wouldn't gain much power without his council, advisers, army/police and loyal subjects among other things. And of course you would need a bad ass castle!!

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justicejr

12 years ago

The high quality useful and epic content in your site will get hugh traffic and share to get high quality backlink.

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alexxanderzeus

12 years ago

it is infarct true because Google always search for fresh content.. But there are exceptions always.

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TheAdsenseGuy

12 years ago

Yes, good content really does matter nowadays. But maybe not the way some people think.

Quality content really isn't about length of article or even if it reads well. To Google, quality content is about LSI keywords (latent semantic indexing). Words of phrases that are the hidden meaning of the main keyword.

Example: Your main keyword is furnace prices. An LSI phrase for furnace would be: Goodman, York, Carrier, ect. (brands of furnaces). LSI words for prices would be: $2000, $1500. Pack your article with words/phrases like that and you are good.

That's how Google kinda knows if the content is good or not.

I have a page on one of my sites that has about 700 words. It's packed with these LSI keywords. The page is ranked page 1,#1 for the main keyword which gets 2400 searches per month - but the site/page is getting 1k visitors PER DAY! (traffic is all going to that page)

Almost all that traffic is coming in from hundreds of long tail keywords. You can't get that kind of traffic from an article that goes like this: Blah, blah, keyword, blah, blah, keyword. Content like that sucks and it won't get you much traffic in Google.

It should also be noted that Google ranks pages based on theme, not 1 keyword per page.

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sirpipsalot

11 years ago

TheAdsenseGuy,

Wow what you've written is really fascinating to me but I being a noob wonder if you can expound a bit for me or provide more examples so I can adequately capture the very essence of what you are suggesting regarding LSI keywords? For instance, can you provide an example within the "insurance" niche for me please? I have a small niche site that I'm attempting to earn from adsense and trying to get traffic to it is really hard for me. I've attempted to place keyword phrases that google's keyword planner says are getting 2 or 3k visitors monthly in the articles and in titles (& also place in the permanent URLs) but that's about it. Any advice would be MUCH appreciated!

Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy

Yes, good content really does matter nowadays. But maybe not the way some people think.

Quality content really isn't about length of article or even if it reads well. To Google, quality content is about LSI keywords (latent semantic indexing). Words of phrases that are the hidden meaning of the main keyword.

Example: Your main keyword is furnace prices. An LSI phrase for furnace would be: Goodman, York, Carrier, ect. (brands of furnaces). LSI words for prices would be: $2000, $1500. Pack your article with words/phrases like that and you are good.

That's how Google kinda knows if the content is good or not.

I have a page on one of my sites that has about 700 words. It's packed with these LSI keywords. The page is ranked page 1,#1 for the main keyword which gets 2400 searches per month - but the site/page is getting 1k visitors PER DAY! (traffic is all going to that page)

Almost all that traffic is coming in from hundreds of long tail keywords. You can't get that kind of traffic from an article that goes like this: Blah, blah, keyword, blah, blah, keyword. Content like that sucks and it won't get you much traffic in Google.

It should also be noted that Google ranks pages based on theme, not 1 keyword per page.

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TeKn1qu3z

12 years ago

High quality content will be shared around the internet naturally and that is what search engines look for.

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turboshandy

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TeKn1qu3z

High quality content will be shared around the internet naturally and that is what search engines look for.

I totally agree with this!
Sure, there are many more things to consider but saying content isn't important is wrong. People do care about what they read and if it;s a good article, they WILL share it!

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ronaldec 12 years ago

Who to listen to? Both have good points. One we don't know much about, the other always with a URL in the sig line.
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ronaldec

12 years ago

Originally Posted by turboshandy

I totally agree with this!
Sure, there are many more things to consider but saying content isn't important is wrong. People do care about what they read and if it;s a good article, they WILL share it!

That is true. Good content makes for good shares and that helps (I guess). But a googlebot is not a person. In order for someone to share good content, they have to get to good content. What gets the good content on page one. What gets them to page one before the first "facebook" like or "googleplus" share. It has to be something esle, something only the googlebots understands. Find out what the googlebots wants and give it to the thing.(AKA not a human person).
I would think good on page SEO and site organization(Silos perhaps) would help. The only thing to do with people is finding out what they are looking for and provide the thing. Make what people are looking for easy to find.

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godoveryou

12 years ago

Wow, really going to bat for Moz there Mike... and yes, a lot of others have as well.

That having been said, their crawler is pretty slow/weak as crawlers go. But... is that really a problem? Meh. It's not the end of the world if you are looking at things from a historic point of view and verify the links still exist on your own.

But, is this Moz-affair thing a part of your new direction? I'm not being confrontational mind you, just asking, making small talk among the fighting, etc.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by godoveryou

Wow, really going to bat for Moz there Mike... and yes, a lot of others have as well.

I could have sworn I stated both Moz and Majestic Goy - got to use everything we got. Yeah and by a lot of others you of course mean most of the professional SEOs of the world. Name me a SEO tool for analyzing backlinks that hasn't or isn't integrating Majestic and/or Moz? I'd have agreed if someone said Moz by itself is not good enough but put it together with majestic and it serves a useful purpose. It s not just a marketing funnel thing. Thats a kiddie observation

I'd take Pagerank any day if it updated regularly which it actually hasn't for years. However now? With no pagerank update for a year and a half and google saying they won't update ever again it seems? lol what are you going to do? Hold onto PR for another ten years and dream its accurate? What are you guys smoking?

You do realize that every single new page, every redesigned site now shows pages as PR N/A regardless of links right? so you and the merry crew of another forum are going to do what?? skip all link opportunities from new pages with juice over the last two years?? An d how are you going to use "historical" metrics and check if they are there when Google turns off the Toolbar API and EVERYTHING shows as N/A??

That having been said, their crawler is pretty slow/weak as crawlers go. But... is that really a problem?

Huge problem which is why I don't use them for link research but as plenty people here know Majestic.

But, is this Moz-affair thing a part of your new direction? I'm not being confrontational mind you,

Yeah you are and don't worry about it it was entirely expected given the thread where I objected to a certain group advertising their own forum here. If you weren't being confrontational you woudn't skip me mentioning Majestic and especially wouldn't call it a "moz affair thing" which sounds like Yukon or MikeF.

Its cool. I knew it was coming.

but anyway I've got an affair with using what we have. People who are really saying stick with pagerank no matter what are the people with a deep crush and a hater of everything else.

Any rational human being would favor a pair of metrics (MOZ and Majestic) that at least update to one that hasn't and won't ever again. Its just common sense

and thats why outside a few black hat grey hat forums almost the entire SEO world has embraced the new reality of looking at both metrics

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

and thats why outside a few black hat grey hat forums almost the entire SEO world has embraced the new reality of looking at both metrics

What's ironic is, you keep on with the moz DA/PA fanboy stuff with a forum sig claiming your going white hat.

On a Journey to White Hat

Is that DA/PA white hat?

Getting mixed signals here...

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

What's ironic is, you keep on with the moz DA/PA fanboy stuff with a forum sig claiming your going white hat.
Is that DA/PA white hat?

Getting mixed signals here...

Every once in a while a poster who generally shows himself to be clueless just goes all out to show the full extent of his vast ignorance

Using metrics has to do with hats .......................ROFL....

Poor Yuke......clearly miffed at all the links to sources that show he is full of nonsense in rejecting Moz and majestic metrics

Heres more

http://searchengineland.com/google-t...ly-dead-205277

http://blog.raventools.com/goodbye-p...hello-mozrank/

http://90digital.com/seo-comment/stu...ffic-4028.html

Holla when you are finished and I'll send more.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Every once in a while a poster who generally shows himself to be awesome just goes all out to show the full extent of his vast awesomeness

Using metrics has to do with hats .......................ROFL....

Yukon......clearly awesome at all the links to sources that show he is full of brilliance in rejecting Moz and majestic metrics

Heres more

http://.

http://.

http://.

Holla when you are finished and I'll send more.

Funny how you've refused to answer two sig questions in one thread.

Send more useless links, I'll keep removing the URLs when I quote them, lol.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Done?

Okay here goes more (who cares if you remove them in your quotes. you can't remove them in mine....not anymore.......lol)

https://www.brightedge.com/white-hat...jestic-rosetta

SEO Infographic - Increase the Domain Authority of Your Site

5 Practical Steps To Improving Your Website.

Every last one (just keeps growing and growing every time you respond ) showing how little you know of the SEO industry. However I think anyone sensible will get that by now.

If not they can just check google here

https://www.google.com/search?q=maje...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Thanks for playing.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Done?

Okay here goes more (who cares if you remove them in your quotes. you can't remove them in mine....not anymore.......lol)

Every last one (just keeps growing and growing every time you respond ) showing how little you know of the SEO industry. However I think anyone sensible will get that by now.

If not they can just check google here

Thanks for playing.

You got any links for origami or bird watching? You know, something more interesting.

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misterius 11 years ago

Yap, content absolutly king. But king do not alwasy a content. King must be a backlinks offpage or onpage. King must be real visitor (not robots). King not auto generate content or copy paste.
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olivia69

12 years ago

Using good contents and unique contents helps to index site more faster.
& its a positive point for google adsense.

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jsam757

12 years ago

nowadays backlinks are the king bec google is only se most popular.. so according to google which website have more traffic have high traffic and good ranking

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pearce

12 years ago

Content is not king but definitely royalty. It contributes to a lot of the aspects of gaining DA and PA and thus gaining trust to hight SERP

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MikeFriedman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by pearce

Content is not king but definitely royalty. It contributes to a lot of the aspects of gaining DA and PA and thus gaining trust to hight SERP

Gaining DA and PA are not a method to gain trust or a higher ranking. I could spam the bejeezus out of a site and gain DA and PA.

Even if DA and PA were direct indicators of rankings, your content has nothing to do with DA and PA anyhow.
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PBScott

12 years ago

Online marketing is a popularity contest,

Step 1) Get everyone to take a look at you "Look at Me!"

Step 2) If the content is good they will Like you.

Step 3) After you become really popular, Google will give you some endorsement.

Too many people chase after the last step directly and fail. However some people do fake their popularity convincingly enough that Google falls for it, but Google is not so easy to fool anymore.

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12 years ago

Among all the technicalities behind organic rankings, the two most important factors boil down to:

1. Backlinks

2. Traffic

If you incorporate any step you take to get backlinks and traffic in accordance with what fits your target audience, you will receive organic rankings.. at least that's my conclusion from the data-set I have..

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Maxmuscle66

12 years ago

Not that I am some expert but I will weigh in on this matter as well.

Is 'Content King'?... depends who you are talking to. In terms of providing value to potential customers/clients/buyers - yes, building value into your offering in what draws people into buying and subscribing coupled with the well crafted web-copy of your site.

Is 'Content King' in terms of Google or other search engines (and this is only my personal opinion), I have to say no way. The latest SERP focus more on the relevancy to the searched topic. If your content is relevant, you're in.

As far as the web-copy is concerned, the search engine SERP are intelligent enough to differ between overuse of a keyword and intelligent use of the same.

Just my two cents worth... nothing more... take this with a grain of salt.

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jkgultimate

12 years ago

Content isn't king when it comes to SEO and Ranking.

Content is king when it comes to conversions. This is why all the SEO in the world won't do you any good if you content is crap and no one wants to read it.

You can rank #1 for your keywords but get NO conversions because your content sucks.

For RANKING, no Content isn't king.

- # Back Links
- Varied anchor texts

That is king for ranking.

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jkgultimate

12 years ago

I have many websites getting 3000+ visitors per day and all I use is SENUKE and a few other link building tools...

And I have been doing this for a few years. Not to mention, ALL the Google Animals came out just helped with my ranking.

It's all about how you do it

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sharplessons

12 years ago

without quality content , you will get high bounce rate and drop in visit.

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Wooexpert

11 years ago

Just standard content is not king , Unique, Quality & SEO based content is good.

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Ben West

11 years ago

Sure, content is king. Content will always be king, no question about that. But that is still irrelevant if you have amazing content and no one can find it.

Being able to market your content is also important. Making it so people can find your content is especially important.

Content might be king, but just like a king, it is useless on its own.

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briphiss

11 years ago

Content is always king of SEO. If u use original content And unique then definitely this more effective.

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Brown2

11 years ago

There is no doubt that content helps in improving the SEO performance. Google give more preference to the quality content. But alone content cannot help SEO. Along with that you have to create quality backlinks for your website and in that case high PR websites does matter for creating backlinks.

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themecafe

11 years ago

content is not king but unique and quality content is good for any type of site.Content with your targeted long tail keyword and back link on keyword is best for your site.

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Nicole Sakoman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by olivia69

Yes, We know that informative content is the king.
Good and informative contents helps to increase SEO performance.

Share your ideas about it

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Content is the king no matter what people say... How google sees the "king content"... thru good keywords, semantic keywords and LSI... If you combine those 3 you get a good position... if you get those 3 and still manage to write a bad content... than you`ll have a high bounce rate and Google will shot you down to a low position.

Usually good choice of KW, semantic KW`s and LSI`s opens so much space for your article that it can hardly go bad (of course if you know at least few things about writing, and if you researched the theme).

One thing that "content is a king" to google is a fact that google likes the most 1,500 - 2,000 words articles more than 500 - 700 words articles!

Hope it helped...
Nicole (:

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Allset800

11 years ago

Yes Content is very important for any blog or page.That's why a good blog a day keeps the failure away

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