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Yes, We know that informative content is the king.
Good and informative contents helps to increase SEO performance.

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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Content is not king. Backlinks and authority and targeting long tail keywords constitute a good SEO strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by olivia69 View Post

    Yes, We know that informative content is the king.
    Good and informative contents helps to increase SEO performance.

    Share your ideas about it ...
    My idea is you don't understand Google could care less about content quality when ranking pages.

    Googlbot doesn't comprehend quality text like a human. They understand relevancy but that's only because they have a database like a thesaurus (associated keywords).

    Thesaurus
    A book that lists words in groups of synonyms and related concepts.
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  • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
    Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is. Bounce rate, avg time spent on page, returning visitor, visitor clicking to other pages throughout the site, people commenting, people sharing etc, these are all signs that tell Google whether or not the page is worthy of a higher ranking.

    I'm currently ranking for a competitive keyword, and I did no backlinking, no shenanigans, no nothing, and my site is new with the domain authority only at 15.

    I believe that it's ranking well because of all the factors that I mentioned are good.

    The page has about 5,000 words which is packed with good quality info.

    Good content wins.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

      Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is. Bounce rate, avg time spent on page, returning visitor, visitor clicking to other pages throughout the site, people commenting, people sharing etc, these are all signs that tell Google whether or not the page is worthy of a higher ranking.

      I'm currently ranking for a competitive keyword, and I did no backlinking, no shenanigans, no nothing, and my site is new with the domain authority only at 15.

      I believe that it's ranking well because of all the factors that I mentioned are good.

      The page has about 5,000 words which is packed with good quality info.

      Good content wins.
      Google is oblivious to quality content.

      Bounce rate could be any number of things that has nothing to do with quality content (content for humans). Example, a crappy host could cause a high bounce rate.

      Lol, you don't build links but you look at fake metrics (DA), hows that for shenanigans?

      Having 5,000 words isn't ranking any page. I have hundreds of pages that average a sentence of text per page, been ranking for years & still average 7 page views per unique traffic over several domains.
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      • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
        Whenever I search Google, the content that I come across is always good.

        Are you saying that the DA is fake? well then it looks like I've been had, and played for a fool. But either way, I'm pretty sure that my site basically has no authority at all, no rights, no brand awareness, little backlinks, as it's new.

        The long post resulted in visitors spending a crap load of time on the page, returning to the page and other good signs.

        A wise man once said; “length is strength” Source: How Important is Content Length? Why Data-Driven SEO Trumps Guru Opinions - The serpIQ Blog

        Anyway, if my page is not ranking based on the quality of the content, then heck if I know how it got up there.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

          Whenever I search Google, the content that I come across is always good.
          You've come across relevancy.






          Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

          Are you saying that the DA is fake? well then it looks like I've been had, and played for a fool. But either way, I'm pretty sure that my site basically has no authority at all, no rights, no brand awareness, little backlinks, as it's new.
          Yes, you've been had,it's called a sales funnel. If you haven't already done it, your one step closer to buying a product that preaches DA. Domains don't have authority, pages have authority via links.





          Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

          The long post resulted in visitors spending a crap load of time on the page, returning to the page and other good signs.
          That's nice, I can do the same with 1 sentence of text per page.





          Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

          You've been duped again, yet another sales funnel. Did you get your free account?
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      • Profile picture of the author alex93
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        # I have hundreds of pages that average a sentence of text per page, been ranking for years & still average 7 page views per unique traffic over several domains.
        Not to piss in anyone's pool but 7 page views only compels the importance of more than a sentence of text on a page, i average 7000 views per page, i would estimate i viewed my own page more than 7 times to make adjustments.

        Just dont factor how you can say i rank hundreds of pages with only 7 views per page is any metric that is useful, unless it is not a well known niche.

        Just thinking out loud, doesn't make much sense?
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

          Not to piss in anyone's pool but 7 page views only compels the importance of more than a sentence of text on a page, i average 7000 views per page, i would estimate i viewed my own page more than 7 times to make adjustments.

          Just dont factor how you can say i rank hundreds of pages with only 7 views per page is any metric that is useful, unless it is not a well known niche.

          Just thinking out loud, doesn't make much sense?
          Your good, 7,000 page views for each person (unique traffic) that visits your site!

          Rock on!
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          • Profile picture of the author alex93
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            Your good, 7,000 page views for each person (unique traffic) that visits your site!

            Rock on!
            Not for each person obviously, overall, during the period when the game is popular, nice way to avoid the question though.

            Rock on.
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            • Profile picture of the author yukon
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              Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

              Not for each person obviously, overall, during the period when the game is popular, nice way to avoid the question though.

              Rock on.
              I didn't avoid the question, I said Rock on!

              I knew you misunderstood when I said 7 page views per unique traffic because nobody in this world is getting 7,000 page views for each unique traffic.

              What I said & what you said aren't even the same things. I was talking about each unique traffic/person while your talking about every single person combined that visits a webpage. Completely different things...

              Lol, how did I end up back in this thread...
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              • Profile picture of the author alex93
                Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                Lol, how did I end up back in this thread...

                I wanted you in it lol, how would i go about traffic internal page views from one page, not something iv really thought about, probably misunderstood this as well.
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                • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                  Originally Posted by alex93 View Post

                  I wanted you in it lol, how would i go about traffic internal page views from one page, not something iv really thought about, probably misunderstood this as well.
                  That's easy, series content where you break down a subject into multiple post/pages but each individual webpage can stand on it's own for traffic.

                  Say for instance traffic is searching for keywords related to building garage foundations, but you have a series of say 10 webpages on your site that covers every single step of building a complete garage (foundation, framing, roofing, installing doors, siding, etc...).

                  Now back to the traffic that was searching Google for building garage foundations, they'll land on your foundation webpage & find related internal links to all the other garage building sub-topics. Easy CTR boosting because odds are the people searching for garage foundation building are very interested in any other relevant info. on garage building.

                  So..., instead of one monstrous webpage covering every single detail of garage building, break the subject down into multiple tightly linked internal pages that will help rank all the related pages. That allows you to focus entire webpages on sub-niches (ex: garage foundations, garage framing, garage roofing, garage doors, etc...).

                  Look into SEO silos.
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                  • Profile picture of the author alex93
                    Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                    Look into SEO silos.

                    I think i am doing this already but will look into it, i have many keywords on pages relating to the main keyword, like trailers, images, cheats, so good internal linking, i assume that is what silos is, will take a look anyway.

                    Cheers

                    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
      Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

      Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is.
      "good content" is a subjective term. Humans don't even have a set definition of what "good content" is...

      don't be a knucklehead.
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      • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
        Originally Posted by hipeopo02 View Post

        "good content" is a subjective term. Humans don't even have a set definition of what "good content" is...

        don't be a knucklehead.
        There's nothing wrong with being a knucklehead.

        Run a Google search, and check out the top 10 results and then check out the bottom 10 results. Odds are that you'll come across some pretty crap content on those bottom 10 results compared to what you'll get with the top 10 results.
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        • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
          Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

          There's nothing wrong with being a knucklehead.

          Run a Google search, and check out the top 10 results and then check out the bottom 10 results. Odds are that you'll come across some pretty crap content on those bottom 10 results compared to what you'll get with the top 10 results.
          Within those top results it's wikipedia on top everytime and several 3rd party sites scattered throughout.

          So....Wikipedia is the the best content....?

          No, it's just got the most pages and best backlinks.....

          usually the topic specific sites show up underneath.

          Why would Google choose wiki over entire sites dedicated to the topic?

          ...

          ...

          I'll wait.....

          In case you missed it the first time: "it's just got the most pages and best backlinks....."
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    • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
      Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

      Google is not stupid nowadays. They know what good content is. .
      Google doesn't know what good content is, people does.
      So, if people like a content it gives a signal to search engines (like Google) that this content is valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author bymarcot
    Content isn`t king. It`s all how you present the content to Google (headings, interlinking, subheadings, images, basically all onpage SEO). You can check how Google sees your content when you search site:yourdomain.com and choose Search tools - reading level. Most have Basic level. Even my autogenerated content (which isn`t readable) is having intermediate and advanced readeing level as Google shows. And i´m only generating this content to search engines and show converting content (which would never rank that high) to real visitors and have high conversion rates. Content costs 0 but conversion level is amazing.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
      All valid points.

      I checked my site's reading level and got nothing.

      Basic 0%
      Intermediate 0%
      Advanced 0%

      Have I not been rated yet?
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      • Profile picture of the author bymarcot
        Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

        All valid points.

        I checked my site's reading level and got nothing.

        Basic 0%
        Intermediate 0%
        Advanced 0%

        Have I not been rated yet?
        Sometimes it takes time. I´ve checked the reading level of "high quliaty content" providers and it`s all basic level. My latest autogenerated content with 10k+ indexed pages and new onpage layout (template to present content to Google) has this result imgur: the simple image sharer So i need to tweak a little to get Advanced level (although even if you search any topic you hardly find any Advanced level content).

        Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
          What are you people? a bunch of BlackHat(ers)?

          I've always been interested in paparazzing some auto generated content, but never got around to it.

          Do you slap up a site, then set up some auto generating content tool and then let it go - so it's like a "set it and forget it" deal?.

          What are the results like? how much traffic are we looking at here?
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

            What are you people? a bunch of BlackHat(ers)?

            I've always been interested in paparazzing some auto generated content, but never got around to it.

            Do you slap up a site, then set up some auto generating content tool and then let it go - so it's like a "set it and forget it" deal?.

            What are the results like? how much traffic are we looking at here?
            If by Black Hat you mean ranking pages, yes, we're all Black Hat.

            Personally I could care less about labels (white hat vs black hat), all I care about when it comes to the SERPs is ranking my pages, not sitting around waiting on something magical to happen on it's own. You can pussyfoot around all day or get down to business & rank pages.

            I don't use any automated content. I use public domain content, make a few edits, upload it to my sites, traffic whips out a credit card & downloads the content. Repeat...
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

        All valid points.

        I checked my site's reading level and got nothing.

        Basic 0%
        Intermediate 0%
        Advanced 0%

        Have I not been rated yet?
        The SERP Reading Level has nothing to do with ranking pages.
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        • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          The SERP Reading Level has nothing to do with ranking pages.
          I called valid points on how you present your content with the on-page side of things.

          I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.

          Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

            I called valid points on how you present your content with the on-page side of things.

            I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.

            Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?


            Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

            I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.
            Reading Level has been around for at least 5 years, it's hardly new.






            Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

            Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?
            On-page SEO + backlink profile is all you need to look at, those two things rank pages.

            PA & DA can both be skewed.
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          • Profile picture of the author bymarcot
            Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

            I called valid points on how you present your content with the on-page side of things.

            I don't think anybody claimed that this new reading level thing has something to do with ranking pages.

            Anyway, would you say that Moz's PA is useless as well? what metric tool should I be going off here?

            PA, DA and every info which isn`t provided by Google publicly isn`t accurate. These are third-party metrics. Like PR which is good to mention when you sell links but the real PR isn`t public anymore.

            Cheers
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            • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
              Originally Posted by bymarcot View Post

              PA, DA and every info which isn`t provided by Google publicly isn`t accurate. These are third-party metrics. Like PR which is good to mention when you sell links but the real PR isn`t public anymore.

              Cheers
              Okay it's not 100% accurate, but it's as close as you're gonna get. It's not like they've put out a completely dud metric for the sake of selling product
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

                Okay it's not 100% accurate, but it's as close as you're gonna get. It's not like they've put out a completely dud metric for the sake of selling product
                Actually that's exactly what they've done, they don't rank pages, they're fluff. Welcome to the sales funnel.





                Originally Posted by justicejr View Post

                The high quality useful and epic content in your site will get hugh traffic and share to get high quality backlink.








                Originally Posted by alexxanderzeus View Post

                it is infarct true because Google always search for fresh content.. But there are exceptions always.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  Actually that's exactly what they've done, they don't rank pages, they're fluff. Welcome to the sales funnel.
                  Guys disregard this poster. He has a long history of being upset with moz because they required a credit card for a trial and he didn't have one.

                  IF you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles

                  Do the google search and you will see he is not to be believed

                  EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam. Yes m Oz and majestic ratings can be faked too. thts why its best to use majestic and Moz together

                  fact is Pagerank has not been updated in a year and a half looking at the backlinks without using a metric like he is telling you to do will do nothing. You will have no way of knowing the strength of a link unless you look at some metric

                  What he is telling you to do is stupid just based out of Moz hate. go ahead look at a link and tell me without a metric how it tells you how strong the link is.

                  Silliness.
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                  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    Guys disregard this poster. He has a long history of being upset with moz because they required a credit card for a trial and he didn't have one.

                    IF you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles

                    Do the google search and you will see he is not to be believed

                    EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam. Yes m Oz and majestic ratings can be faked too. thts why its best to use majestic and Moz together

                    fact is Pagerank has not been updated in a year and a half looking at the backlinks without using a metric like he is telling you to do will do nothing. You will have no way of knowing the strength of a link unless you look at some metric

                    What he is telling you to do is stupid just based out of Moz hate. go ahead look at a link and tell me without a metric how it tells you how strong the link is.

                    Silliness.
                    Moz is a rookie hangout, apparently your still a rookie. Basic SEO, BS homemade metrics that are easily skewed. Nobody cares about your PR rant.

                    Any real SEO knows to avoid the silly IM gimmicks (PA, DA, etc..).

                    How's that PBN thing working out, still getting complaints for not delivering?
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                  • Profile picture of the author dgerryd
                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    Guys disregard this poster. He has a long history of being upset with moz because they required a credit card for a trial and he didn't have one.

                    IF you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles

                    Do the google search and you will see he is not to be believed

                    EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam. Yes m Oz and majestic ratings can be faked too. thts why its best to use majestic and Moz together

                    fact is Pagerank has not been updated in a year and a half looking at the backlinks without using a metric like he is telling you to do will do nothing. You will have no way of knowing the strength of a link unless you look at some metric

                    What he is telling you to do is stupid just based out of Moz hate. go ahead look at a link and tell me without a metric how it tells you how strong the link is.

                    Silliness.
                    Believe me I'm not one for getting into BS shite But @Mike Anthony your dissing on what @Yukon said from a complete BS arguement something I believe you might be behind in "SEO" here is a statement you made

                    "EVERY metric out there can be faked and skewed. PR when it did update could be faked and it could give you artificial reading s by blasting a page with spam"

                    Do you actually realize that Larry Page/Google were the inventors/adopters of PR ? Please tel me you didn't and you don't think that "MOZ" & "MJ" no better than Goolge when Google are stingy not sharers of that data ? I don't know @Yukon but I can tell you he know's more about Seo and actual rankings than your giving him credit for and I suspect that's from testing not from reading "MOZ" !

                    You do know MOZ are a third party "SEO SOFTWARE COMPANY" that collect their data via Google & other sources and not actually an Seo Company ? Their main goal is to sell you on Seo truth & lies which ever brings the sales and "SALES" being the main event.

                    @Mike Anthony you would also know if you are an "SEO" that this statement is complete BS "if you search the internet you will find that both Majestic an Moz metrics are HIGHLY regarded in professional SEO circles" yes but any Seo will tell you they are flawed without knowledge and you cannot beat the trained eye, without the trained eye these tools are useless.
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

                Okay it's not 100% accurate, but it's as close as you're gonna get. It's not like they've put out a completely dud metric for the sake of selling product
                No they didn't . its been tested and is accepted among many Professionals The poster is lying

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                IF he tells you to use PR then thats silliness too since its a metric google has said they will not be updating again and hasn't updated in over a year. Moz hasn't made up anything neither has Majestic. its a scientifically designed system made to replicate how link juiceflows. Since Google keeps their system secret it will never be 100% with Google but it gives you an indication quite often on the strength of domains and links

                Again do the Google search for these metrics and who uses them and you will see Yukon does NOT know what he is talking about
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                • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                  No they didn't . its been tested and is accepted among many Professionals The poster is lying

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                  IF he tells you to use PR then thats silliness too since its a metric google has said they will not be updating again and hasn't updated in over a year. Moz hasn't made up anything neither has Majestic. its a scientifically designed system made to replicate how link juiceflows. Since Google keeps their system secret it will never be 100% with Google but it gives you an indication quite often on the strength of domains and links

                  Again do the Google search for these metrics and who uses them and you will see Yukon does know what he is talking about
                  Sheeple, pure sheeple.

                  When/If you learn SEO you'll realize you've been duped, until then enjoy your moz account.

                  Lol, he read a blog, good stuff.
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                  • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
                    Well, it looks like this thread about content being king has been hijacked on debates about DA/PR metrics.

                    Do these kind of shenanigans happen often around here?
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                    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                      Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

                      Well, it looks like this thread about content being king has been hijacked on debates about DA/PR metrics.

                      Do these kind of shenanigans happen often around here?
                      You was the first person in this thread to bring up DA.

                      Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

                      I'm currently ranking for a competitive keyword, and I did no backlinking, no shenanigans, no nothing, and my site is new with the domain authority only at 15.
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                      • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
                        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                        You was the first person in this thread to bring up DA.
                        Okay yeah that may be true, but I never carried on about it like a little panzy
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                      Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

                      Well, it looks like this thread about content being king has been hijacked on debates about DA/PR metrics.

                      Do these kind of shenanigans happen often around here?

                      threads will take detours. when issues are raised. fear not it hasn't been hijacked. the facts are obvious and the links prove the point. I at least am done on the issue

                      and YES content is king. It helps DRAMATICALLY with link building

                      A) No one wants to link to a site with crappy content
                      B) linking to crappy content is the number one dead giveaway to buying lin ks and link spam

                      So content even affects link building.
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                        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                        threads will take detours. when issues are raised. fear not it hasn't been hijacked. the facts are obvious and the links prove the point. I at least am done on the issue

                        and YES content is king. It helps DRAMATICALLY with link building

                        A) No one wants to link to a site with crappy content
                        B) linking to crappy content is the number one dead giveaway to buying lin ks and link spam

                        So content even affects link building.
                        Yep, the blog links prove your clueless to what matters for ranking pages (text + links). Your homemade metrics are gimmicks, your confused since you've lost PR (the original metric).
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                  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                    Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                    Sheeple, pure sheeple.

                    When/If you learn SEO you'll realize you've been duped, until then enjoy your moz account.

                    Lol, he read a blog, good stuff.
                    LOL who should people believe? you who no one knows or an internet full of professionals using Moz and majestic metrics and tools?

                    A Quick Guide To The Metrics and Quality Signals To Use When Link Prospecting - Search Engine Journal

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                    Lol practically every professional SEO tool uses moz or Majestic. Tooooo funny.

                    This place has become a wasteland and its not the new people making it that way.
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                    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                      LOL who should people believe? you who no one knows or an internet full of professionals using Moz and majestic metrics and tools?

                      A Quick Guide To The Metrics and Quality Signals To Use When Link Prospecting - Search Engine Journal

                      Why Google Hates Your Site (Hint: TrustRank Matters)

                      Domain Authority | Tips for your website

                      Why External Links, mozRank, and Domain Authority Matter for Your Business - SumAll


                      Lol practically every pofessional SEO tool uses moz or Majestic. Tooooo funny.
                      Lmao, professional BS (AKA IM sales funnel).

                      Keep posting your moz crap, proving your a newbie.

                      Even posted backlinko, you forgot about his 200 list where he just made up 100 fake items on the list so he could have more content than anyone else. FAIL. More crap doesn't make something useful. Tell your buddy El' Backlinko.

                      At least SEL was smart enough to post a disclaimer saying they made up a bogus algo name, unlike any of your other blog post blunders. Note: We’ve named this update the Pigeon update.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                        Oh Yukon you are such a funny kid.

                        Searhengineland is one of the most respected SEO sites on the internet. Have issues with backlinko? look at all the others, look at all the professional SEo tools that now use it and Majestic.

                        Epic fail. Get over the Moz hate.When it comes o metrics you live in a Majestic and Moz world. Public pagerank metrics are dead and Google themselves has said as much.

                        Now let the subject get back on track
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                        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                          Oh Yukon you are such a funny kid.

                          Searhengineland is one of the most respected SEO sites on the internet. Have issues with backlinko? look at all the others, look at all the professional SEo tools that now use it and Majestic.

                          Epic fail. Get over the Moz hate.When it comes o metrics you live in a Majestic and Moz world. Public pagerank metrics are dead and Google themselves has said as much.

                          Now let the subject get back on track
                          You got it, professional BSers is all you've listed here.

                          I didn't say anything against SEL, twist & turn Mick.

                          Moz blows, unless your a newbie, but that's what, 3 months worth of content [meh].


                          Now let the subject get back on track
                          Lol, of all people on this forum, you don't need to be telling anyone to get on topic. Your the KING of derailed threads. Look at his history folks.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                            I didn't say anything against SEL, twist & turn Mick.
                            Search Engine land recommends Moz tooo so you better....ROFL......what a funny kid.

                            Good laugh for the morning but at the request of posters I'll let this get back on track,

                            toodles
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                              Search Engine land recommends Moz tooo so you better....ROFL.

                              Good laugh for the morning but at the request of posters I'll let this get back on track,

                              toodles
                              I never said SEL was perfect, hell, even you recommend moz, lol.

                              Now get back on track.
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                              • Profile picture of the author MLMBarracks
                                Perhaps I did panzy around about metrics, but there's nothing wrong with being a panzy. Overall, I'm still sticking with "content is king."
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                                  Originally Posted by MLMBarracks View Post

                                  Perhaps I did panzy around about metrics, but there's nothing wrong with being a panzy. Overall, I'm still sticking with "content is king."
                                  Whatever...

                                  Content alone will never rank a page for a traffic keyword, maybe some super longtail keyword with a couple traffic per month but you best be selling high end products/services for the ranked longtail page to even matter.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
                      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                      LOL who should people believe? you who no one knows or an internet full of professionals using Moz and majestic metrics and tools?

                      A Quick Guide To The Metrics and Quality Signals To Use When Link Prospecting - Search Engine Journal

                      Why Google Hates Your Site (Hint: TrustRank Matters)

                      Domain Authority | Tips for your website

                      Why External Links, mozRank, and Domain Authority Matter for Your Business - SumAll


                      Lol practically every professional SEO tool uses moz or Majestic. Tooooo funny.

                      This place has become a wasteland and its not the new people making it that way.
                      All of these third party data sets combined, only make up a small percentage of the web.

                      Most "professional" SEO, are well aware of that, most new SEO are definitely not.

                      The professional SEO, uses such tools in combinations of filtering to gain an indication of smell, for the quality of a domain. Where the new SEO, see's these metrics as the be all and end all of the buy decision. If they took every last metric of measure away right now, I would be absolutely fine with it.

                      Because
                      • I have looked at the history of the domain I'm buying.
                      • I know what a crap site looks like.
                      • I've looked at the pages linking to it.
                      • I know what crap links look like.
                      • I've looked at the link profile.
                      • I know what a crap profile looks like.


                      They're the real domain metric tools. Your EYES

                      So yes, content is King.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

                        All of these third party data sets combined, only make up a small percentage of the web.

                        Most "professional" SEO, are well aware of that, most new SEO are definitely not.

                        The professional SEO, uses such tools in combinations of filtering to gain an indication of smell, for the quality of a domain.
                        They're the real domain metric tools. Your EYES

                        Sure you look with your eyes. You always check any link resource for its backlinks. No one said different but you also use metrics when you look at the backlinks. Most of us have been crosschecking the domains and link resources we buy with PR backlinks to the page but those days are coming to a close.

                        There are MILLIONS of pages on the internet with great content and no ranking power.

                        If you are agreeing with Yukon that you can just look at the page and tell the strength of a link source without any metrics then be my guest and inform us all how this wonder is done.

                        And yes I would be definitely saying its a bunch of baloney and so would ANY truly professional SEO.

                        anyone or group is just blowing smoke to make the claim they can evaluate limk strength without relying on any metrics in the process. As they say in France - Garbaaawge
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                        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
                          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                          Sure you look with your eyes. You always check any link resource for its backlinks. No one said different but you also use metrics when you look at the backlinks. Most of us have been crosschecking the domains and link resources we buy with PR backlinks to the page but those days are coming to a close.

                          There are MILLIONS of pages on the internet with great content and no ranking power.

                          If you are agreeing with Yukon that you can just look at the page and tell the strength of a link source without any metrics then be my guest and inform us all how this wonder is done.

                          And yes I would be definitely saying its a bunch of baloney and so would ANY truly professional SEO.

                          anyone or group is just blowing smoke to make the claim they can evaluate limk strength without relying on any metrics in the process. As they say in France - Garbaaawge
                          I completely agree with you, with the points you make about everyone "needing" some kind of metric to help at least filter out the plethora of junk out there. But that doesn't mean if Google takes away public visibility of the toolbar PR, there will be any dramatic shift in how the market estimates a domains value.

                          Being in the market for domains yourself, you know that yes PR, DA, PA, TF, CF can all be manipulated or outright faked. But I have never found it difficult to spot a fake one by seeing only 1 of the mentioned metrics and cross checking that with inbound links and filtering for blacklist anchors.

                          You can do that on an spreadsheet yourself, it's easy.

                          There is over 2 decades of data surrounding the PR algo. Almost all third party companies have identified the indexed internet hierarchy of pages. And most as you have noticed begun making moves to advanced their own algos even further. They have the data, and now they have a brand new customer base.

                          And if they don't do it quick enough for you. They publish their top domain data publicly. You can make your own TrustBase for free.

                          The market will move toward higher metric domains, leaving behind the more volatile lower end market. PBN's will become smaller, but stronger. Nothing changes.

                          Ironically, people will be only buying highly related PR4+ domains for PBN's and using the wash of low PR sites to go with their spam When it has now become possible in SEO, to apply a negative. People will shift more toward a guaranteed positive. i.e Whitehat, Buyouts etc... But the playing field remains the same, and has it's own edges to be gained.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicktyler
    Maybe content is King but the King wouldn't gain much power without his council, advisers, army/police and loyal subjects among other things. And of course you would need a bad ass castle!!
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  • Profile picture of the author justicejr
    The high quality useful and epic content in your site will get hugh traffic and share to get high quality backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexxanderzeus
    it is infarct true because Google always search for fresh content.. But there are exceptions always.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
    Yes, good content really does matter nowadays. But maybe not the way some people think.


    Quality content really isn't about length of article or even if it reads well. To Google, quality content is about LSI keywords (latent semantic indexing). Words of phrases that are the hidden meaning of the main keyword.


    Example: Your main keyword is furnace prices. An LSI phrase for furnace would be: Goodman, York, Carrier, ect. (brands of furnaces). LSI words for prices would be: $2000, $1500. Pack your article with words/phrases like that and you are good.


    That's how Google kinda knows if the content is good or not.


    I have a page on one of my sites that has about 700 words. It's packed with these LSI keywords. The page is ranked page 1,#1 for the main keyword which gets 2400 searches per month - but the site/page is getting 1k visitors PER DAY! (traffic is all going to that page)


    Almost all that traffic is coming in from hundreds of long tail keywords. You can't get that kind of traffic from an article that goes like this: Blah, blah, keyword, blah, blah, keyword. Content like that sucks and it won't get you much traffic in Google.


    It should also be noted that Google ranks pages based on theme, not 1 keyword per page.
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    • Profile picture of the author sirpipsalot
      TheAdsenseGuy,

      Wow what you've written is really fascinating to me but I being a noob wonder if you can expound a bit for me or provide more examples so I can adequately capture the very essence of what you are suggesting regarding LSI keywords? For instance, can you provide an example within the "insurance" niche for me please? I have a small niche site that I'm attempting to earn from adsense and trying to get traffic to it is really hard for me. I've attempted to place keyword phrases that google's keyword planner says are getting 2 or 3k visitors monthly in the articles and in titles (& also place in the permanent URLs) but that's about it. Any advice would be MUCH appreciated!


      Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

      Yes, good content really does matter nowadays. But maybe not the way some people think.


      Quality content really isn't about length of article or even if it reads well. To Google, quality content is about LSI keywords (latent semantic indexing). Words of phrases that are the hidden meaning of the main keyword.


      Example: Your main keyword is furnace prices. An LSI phrase for furnace would be: Goodman, York, Carrier, ect. (brands of furnaces). LSI words for prices would be: $2000, $1500. Pack your article with words/phrases like that and you are good.


      That's how Google kinda knows if the content is good or not.


      I have a page on one of my sites that has about 700 words. It's packed with these LSI keywords. The page is ranked page 1,#1 for the main keyword which gets 2400 searches per month - but the site/page is getting 1k visitors PER DAY! (traffic is all going to that page)


      Almost all that traffic is coming in from hundreds of long tail keywords. You can't get that kind of traffic from an article that goes like this: Blah, blah, keyword, blah, blah, keyword. Content like that sucks and it won't get you much traffic in Google.


      It should also be noted that Google ranks pages based on theme, not 1 keyword per page.
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    • Profile picture of the author turboshandy
      Originally Posted by TeKn1qu3z View Post

      High quality content will be shared around the internet naturally and that is what search engines look for.
      I totally agree with this!
      Sure, there are many more things to consider but saying content isn't important is wrong. People do care about what they read and if it;s a good article, they WILL share it!
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      • Profile picture of the author ronaldec
        Who to listen to? Both have good points. One we don't know much about, the other always with a URL in the sig line.
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      • Profile picture of the author ronaldec
        Originally Posted by turboshandy View Post

        I totally agree with this!
        Sure, there are many more things to consider but saying content isn't important is wrong. People do care about what they read and if it;s a good article, they WILL share it!
        That is true. Good content makes for good shares and that helps (I guess). But a googlebot is not a person. In order for someone to share good content, they have to get to good content. What gets the good content on page one. What gets them to page one before the first "facebook" like or "googleplus" share. It has to be something esle, something only the googlebots understands. Find out what the googlebots wants and give it to the thing.(AKA not a human person).
        I would think good on page SEO and site organization(Silos perhaps) would help. The only thing to do with people is finding out what they are looking for and provide the thing. Make what people are looking for easy to find.
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    Wow, really going to bat for Moz there Mike... and yes, a lot of others have as well.

    That having been said, their crawler is pretty slow/weak as crawlers go. But... is that really a problem? Meh. It's not the end of the world if you are looking at things from a historic point of view and verify the links still exist on your own.

    But, is this Moz-affair thing a part of your new direction? I'm not being confrontational mind you, just asking, making small talk among the fighting, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

      Wow, really going to bat for Moz there Mike... and yes, a lot of others have as well.
      I could have sworn I stated both Moz and Majestic Goy - got to use everything we got. Yeah and by a lot of others you of course mean most of the professional SEOs of the world. Name me a SEO tool for analyzing backlinks that hasn't or isn't integrating Majestic and/or Moz? I'd have agreed if someone said Moz by itself is not good enough but put it together with majestic and it serves a useful purpose. It s not just a marketing funnel thing. Thats a kiddie observation

      I'd take Pagerank any day if it updated regularly which it actually hasn't for years. However now? With no pagerank update for a year and a half and google saying they won't update ever again it seems? lol what are you going to do? Hold onto PR for another ten years and dream its accurate? What are you guys smoking?

      You do realize that every single new page, every redesigned site now shows pages as PR N/A regardless of links right? so you and the merry crew of another forum are going to do what?? skip all link opportunities from new pages with juice over the last two years?? An d how are you going to use "historical" metrics and check if they are there when Google turns off the Toolbar API and EVERYTHING shows as N/A??

      That having been said, their crawler is pretty slow/weak as crawlers go. But... is that really a problem?
      Huge problem which is why I don't use them for link research but as plenty people here know Majestic.

      But, is this Moz-affair thing a part of your new direction? I'm not being confrontational mind you,
      Yeah you are and don't worry about it it was entirely expected given the thread where I objected to a certain group advertising their own forum here. If you weren't being confrontational you woudn't skip me mentioning Majestic and especially wouldn't call it a "moz affair thing" which sounds like Yukon or MikeF.

      Its cool. I knew it was coming.

      but anyway I've got an affair with using what we have. People who are really saying stick with pagerank no matter what are the people with a deep crush and a hater of everything else.

      Any rational human being would favor a pair of metrics (MOZ and Majestic) that at least update to one that hasn't and won't ever again. Its just common sense

      and thats why outside a few black hat grey hat forums almost the entire SEO world has embraced the new reality of looking at both metrics
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        and thats why outside a few black hat grey hat forums almost the entire SEO world has embraced the new reality of looking at both metrics
        What's ironic is, you keep on with the moz DA/PA fanboy stuff with a forum sig claiming your going white hat.

        On a Journey to White Hat
        Is that DA/PA white hat?

        Getting mixed signals here...
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          What's ironic is, you keep on with the moz DA/PA fanboy stuff with a forum sig claiming your going white hat.
          Is that DA/PA white hat?

          Getting mixed signals here...
          Every once in a while a poster who generally shows himself to be clueless just goes all out to show the full extent of his vast ignorance

          Using metrics has to do with hats .......................ROFL....

          Poor Yuke......clearly miffed at all the links to sources that show he is full of nonsense in rejecting Moz and majestic metrics

          Heres more

          http://searchengineland.com/google-t...ly-dead-205277

          http://blog.raventools.com/goodbye-p...hello-mozrank/

          http://90digital.com/seo-comment/stu...ffic-4028.html

          Holla when you are finished and I'll send more.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Every once in a while a poster who generally shows himself to be awesome just goes all out to show the full extent of his vast awesomeness

            Using metrics has to do with hats .......................ROFL....

            Yukon......clearly awesome at all the links to sources that show he is full of brilliance in rejecting Moz and majestic metrics

            Heres more

            http://.

            http://.

            http://.

            Holla when you are finished and I'll send more.
            Funny how you've refused to answer two sig questions in one thread.

            Send more useless links, I'll keep removing the URLs when I quote them, lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author misterius
      Yap, content absolutly king. But king do not alwasy a content. King must be a backlinks offpage or onpage. King must be real visitor (not robots). King not auto generate content or copy paste.
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  • Profile picture of the author olivia69
    Using good contents and unique contents helps to index site more faster.
    & its a positive point for google adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsam757
    nowadays backlinks are the king bec google is only se most popular.. so according to google which website have more traffic have high traffic and good ranking
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  • Profile picture of the author pearce
    Content is not king but definitely royalty. It contributes to a lot of the aspects of gaining DA and PA and thus gaining trust to hight SERP
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by pearce View Post

      Content is not king but definitely royalty. It contributes to a lot of the aspects of gaining DA and PA and thus gaining trust to hight SERP
      Gaining DA and PA are not a method to gain trust or a higher ranking. I could spam the bejeezus out of a site and gain DA and PA.

      Even if DA and PA were direct indicators of rankings, your content has nothing to do with DA and PA anyhow.
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  • Profile picture of the author PBScott
    Online marketing is a popularity contest,

    Step 1) Get everyone to take a look at you "Look at Me!"

    Step 2) If the content is good they will Like you.

    Step 3) After you become really popular, Google will give you some endorsement.

    Too many people chase after the last step directly and fail. However some people do fake their popularity convincingly enough that Google falls for it, but Google is not so easy to fool anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author sonjay
    Among all the technicalities behind organic rankings, the two most important factors boil down to:

    1. Backlinks

    2. Traffic

    If you incorporate any step you take to get backlinks and traffic in accordance with what fits your target audience, you will receive organic rankings.. at least that's my conclusion from the data-set I have..
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  • Profile picture of the author Maxmuscle66
    Not that I am some expert but I will weigh in on this matter as well.

    Is 'Content King'?... depends who you are talking to. In terms of providing value to potential customers/clients/buyers - yes, building value into your offering in what draws people into buying and subscribing coupled with the well crafted web-copy of your site.

    Is 'Content King' in terms of Google or other search engines (and this is only my personal opinion), I have to say no way. The latest SERP focus more on the relevancy to the searched topic. If your content is relevant, you're in.

    As far as the web-copy is concerned, the search engine SERP are intelligent enough to differ between overuse of a keyword and intelligent use of the same.

    Just my two cents worth... nothing more... take this with a grain of salt.

    Much thanks all.
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  • Profile picture of the author jkgultimate
    Content isn't king when it comes to SEO and Ranking.

    Content is king when it comes to conversions. This is why all the SEO in the world won't do you any good if you content is crap and no one wants to read it.

    You can rank #1 for your keywords but get NO conversions because your content sucks.

    For RANKING, no Content isn't king.

    - # Back Links
    - Varied anchor texts

    That is king for ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author jkgultimate
    I have many websites getting 3000+ visitors per day and all I use is SENUKE and a few other link building tools...

    And I have been doing this for a few years. Not to mention, ALL the Google Animals came out just helped with my ranking.

    It's all about how you do it
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  • Profile picture of the author sharplessons
    without quality content , you will get high bounce rate and drop in visit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wooexpert
    Just standard content is not king , Unique, Quality & SEO based content is good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben West
    Sure, content is king. Content will always be king, no question about that. But that is still irrelevant if you have amazing content and no one can find it.

    Being able to market your content is also important. Making it so people can find your content is especially important.

    Content might be king, but just like a king, it is useless on its own.
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  • Profile picture of the author briphiss
    Content is always king of SEO. If u use original content And unique then definitely this more effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brown2
    There is no doubt that content helps in improving the SEO performance. Google give more preference to the quality content. But alone content cannot help SEO. Along with that you have to create quality backlinks for your website and in that case high PR websites does matter for creating backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author themecafe
    content is not king but unique and quality content is good for any type of site.Content with your targeted long tail keyword and back link on keyword is best for your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicole Sakoman
    Originally Posted by olivia69 View Post

    Yes, We know that informative content is the king.
    Good and informative contents helps to increase SEO performance.

    Share your ideas about it ...
    Content is the king no matter what people say... How google sees the "king content"... thru good keywords, semantic keywords and LSI... If you combine those 3 you get a good position... if you get those 3 and still manage to write a bad content... than you`ll have a high bounce rate and Google will shot you down to a low position.

    Usually good choice of KW, semantic KW`s and LSI`s opens so much space for your article that it can hardly go bad (of course if you know at least few things about writing, and if you researched the theme).

    One thing that "content is a king" to google is a fact that google likes the most 1,500 - 2,000 words articles more than 500 - 700 words articles!

    Hope it helped...
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    Yes Content is very important for any blog or page.That's why a good blog a day keeps the failure away
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