Duplicate Content question

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Hi all,

I wrote a thread a couple of weeks ago about losing quite a few of my money sites to a manual thin content action (http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...t-penalty.html).

So I de-indexed my old money sites in Google and put the content onto new domains. I then ran all of my pages through Copyscape and fixed up pages that were scraped from my original domains to be unique. I did not realize however that Copyscape didn't capture everything and came across another website that is now ranking using my old content. Thankfully it was only 4 pages and I can re-do it.

That being said, what kind of implications are there on my site since it now looks like I copied their site? This money site is new (1 month) so am not expecting to rank yet. However, I am not sure if is ok to leave the content up on the mean time before I fix it up? In other words does it only affect the rank for that particular page or could my whole domain be suffering as it now has a few duplicate content issues.

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonny2spoons
    If you have content that is duplicated from another website then just attribute the source by linking to the original source of the content. You won't get any credit for the content but you won't get any plagiarism complaints either.

    The best solution is just to delete all the content that isn't totally unique and start again though.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    In the world of Google, duplicate content is the same content on different pages of the same website. Same content on pages of different sites is syndicated content and a good number of sites do quite great with this: most, if not all news sites, for instance do a lot with syndicated content.

    So, the answer to your question: it depends on your SEO prowess. If you got more than your competitors, your pages will show up in results; if they have more then you, their pages will show up in results.

    Originally Posted by jasontrent View Post

    Hi all,

    I wrote a thread a couple of weeks ago about losing quite a few of my money sites to a manual thin content action (http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...t-penalty.html).

    So I de-indexed my old money sites in Google and put the content onto new domains. I then ran all of my pages through Copyscape and fixed up pages that were scraped from my original domains to be unique. I did not realize however that Copyscape didn't capture everything and came across another website that is now ranking using my old content. Thankfully it was only 4 pages and I can re-do it.

    That being said, what kind of implications are there on my site since it now looks like I copied their site? This money site is new (1 month) so am not expecting to rank yet. However, I am not sure if is ok to leave the content up on the mean time before I fix it up? In other words does it only affect the rank for that particular page or could my whole domain be suffering as it now has a few duplicate content issues.

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author danparks
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      In the world of Google, duplicate content is the same content on different pages of the same website. Same content on pages of different sites is syndicated content and a good number of sites do quite great with this: most, if not all news sites, for instance do a lot with syndicated content.
      I wish more people understood this. Duplicate content is duplicate content on your own site. That isn't good. Since none of us know the details of Google's algorithms, and none of us have enough sites or the means to do isolated testing (eliminating all but one variable to see how a change in that one variable affects rankings), it's impossible to make "cause and effect" statements with certainty. But I've dealt with enough websites that just couldn't rise up past a point in the SERPs and once duplicate content was removed they did rise, that I'm going to make the assumption that duplicate same-site content ain't never good.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Yeah it's all Semantics.

        Content used on other Sites do not get penalized. But they tend to not do well in Rankings and usually never get above Site with original content

        Some people call this a Penalty but it is not.

        A penalty is getting deindexed or slammed way down the SEs.

        With syndication ,you usually just do not get high in the SEs to begin with
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    • Profile picture of the author Leadsupply
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      In the world of Google, duplicate content is the same content on different pages of the same website. Same content on pages of different sites is syndicated content and a good number of sites do quite great with this: most, if not all news sites, for instance do a lot with syndicated content.

      So, the answer to your question: it depends on your SEO prowess. If you got more than your competitors, your pages will show up in results; if they have more then you, their pages will show up in results.
      Thank you for this. Very brief yet it makes total sense. I've been working with SEO for several years now. Still a lot of ups and downs. I totally believe that unique and well thought of content or resource is the only way to make it work. Now it kinda gave me the idea that depending on how you use it or try to make it look, some duplicate content can "be of service" at some point.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        Think of it this way: you run, for instance, a real estate company's website. Your visitors are looking for to buy houses. Buying a house involves many things, including hazards insurance and mortgages.

        Do you a) learn a lot about mortgages and hazards insurance in order to provide your visitors useful info, info that makes it easier for them to make you money or
        b) do you go to your best mortgage broker and get an appropriate article from their site (with their permission, of course)?


        Will you try to rank that article for mortgage loans? No, but you'll make more sale with that strategy all the same.

        Originally Posted by Leadsupply View Post

        Thank you for this. Very brief yet it makes total sense. I've been working with SEO for several years now. Still a lot of ups and downs. I totally believe that unique and well thought of content or resource is the only way to make it work. Now it kinda gave me the idea that depending on how you use it or try to make it look, some duplicate content can "be of service" at some point.
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        • Profile picture of the author jasontrent
          Thanks all, so I didn't realize that this thread had so many responses until now. Appreciate it. As for duplicate content, yes I agree I was saying the wrong thing but let me explain a little bit of my situation:

          1 - I created content
          2 - Scrapers took my content I assume and put on their websites
          3 - I de-indexed my sites a while ago
          4 - I put up my old content onto new domains

          So now as I said I am stuck looking like the copier instead of the true source for information. I've written new articles for the affected page but am not sure how to proceed:

          1 - Do I delete my old post and create a new one? Or...
          2 - Will Google eventually read my content as being unique and not have any sort of filter on my page?

          I really don't know if Google flag pages with duplicate content them or not?

          Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author enjamulahsan
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    Duplicate contents never helps you to drive traffic, It destroys you.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by enjamulahsan View Post

      Duplicate contents never helps you to drive traffic, It destroys you.
      No, it doesn't. Sites running duplicate content (ie. content that is too similar to something on their own site) rank reasonably well all the time. It's something you should avoid, but it's not the end of the world.

      If the duplication is something that comes from your CMS just configure it better, or rethink the placement of your elements. If you've got duplicate pages that you can't remove just use canonical.
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      What's your excuse?
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  • Profile picture of the author mariajerek
    Originally Posted by jasontrent View Post

    Hi all,

    I wrote a thread a couple of weeks ago about losing quite a few of my money sites to a manual thin content action (http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...t-penalty.html).

    So I de-indexed my old money sites in Google and put the content onto new domains. I then ran all of my pages through Copyscape and fixed up pages that were scraped from my original domains to be unique. I did not realize however that Copyscape didn't capture everything and came across another website that is now ranking using my old content. Thankfully it was only 4 pages and I can re-do it.

    That being said, what kind of implications are there on my site since it now looks like I copied their site? This money site is new (1 month) so am not expecting to rank yet. However, I am not sure if is ok to leave the content up on the mean time before I fix it up? In other words does it only affect the rank for that particular page or could my whole domain be suffering as it now has a few duplicate content issues.

    Thanks!
    After de-index your old site, did you checked that your content is not available in google database. May be you didn't check and use that same content in your new domain. That is also counted as duplicate content.

    And if you got a penalty from google then that particular section will be penalized on which you have used the duplicate content.
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  • Profile picture of the author healthcareinfo
    Hello Everyone

    Duplicate content not good for seo.
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  • Profile picture of the author irawr
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    Originally Posted by jasontrent View Post

    Hi all,

    I wrote a thread a couple of weeks ago about losing quite a few of my money sites to a manual thin content action (http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...t-penalty.html).

    So I de-indexed my old money sites in Google and put the content onto new domains. I then ran all of my pages through Copyscape and fixed up pages that were scraped from my original domains to be unique. I did not realize however that Copyscape didn't capture everything and came across another website that is now ranking using my old content. Thankfully it was only 4 pages and I can re-do it.

    That being said, what kind of implications are there on my site since it now looks like I copied their site? This money site is new (1 month) so am not expecting to rank yet. However, I am not sure if is ok to leave the content up on the mean time before I fix it up? In other words does it only affect the rank for that particular page or could my whole domain be suffering as it now has a few duplicate content issues.

    Thanks!
    Ok, excluding whatever happened with copyscape.

    If you deleted the sites out of google and took them down off your host, put the old content on a new domain, how could it possibly be duplicate? There's no copy available anywhere to be a duplicate of.

    The copyscape issue: if somebody scraped your content then DMCA them and get it taken down. Contact their ISP and show them the content in waybackwhen if they don't respond promptly.

    Google ranks pages not sites so the duplicate pages won't rank until you get the scraped stuff taken down. It should not hurt the site overall.
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