RSS Links of Profile Links

by Rysk

Posted: 16 years ago 14 replies

What is the idea behind creating RSS feeds of profile links, e.g. like the ice rocket feeds from Steve Hawkins Link Dominator?

No one is actually going to subscribe to such a feed as the links within it are garbage, is the idea that by creating an RSS link and submitting the RSS link to RSS directories and social bookmarking sites you are creating one link which Goole can find quite easily, and then Google will find the links of the profile pages within and index them?

If this is the case then it's not really working for me as hardly any of my profile links have been indexed even though i've been creating RSS feeds and then submiting after to RSS directories and social sites...

#links #profile #rss

Rysk 16 years ago

Anyone? I'm sure someone knows the answer to this
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debra 16 years ago

Because...everyone in the know...agrees with you.

Some ppl,in my opinion, teach it wrong...way wrong!

Treat profile links like a continuation of resources on a particular subject. Instead of treating like a page all about your crap. Treat it like a page(s) of valued resources. A continuation of what you are talking about.

Profile links are NOT about YOU!

Example:

I have a dog biting site. It talks all about what to do with biting dogs.

I would create a profile page about what to do with a biting dog and list authority links to sites focused on the same subject.

Then I would be able to include that page within my RSS feeds and submit it to all the RSS directories.
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- Rysk 16 years ago
  
  I'm talking about the public page of my profile on forums where I have my signature link, is this what you're talking about?
  
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Vikram73

16 years ago

I think it's a bunch of BS.

People started making good money selling profile link services and when the users realized it didn't work they were told:

- You need to do other forms of SEO along with this

- You need to wait 3-4 months (maybe 6) you'll get your ranking then

- You need to focus on long tail keywords (these are easy to rank for anyway with a few article submissions)

- You ned to make RSS feeds of your profiles and mix them and do a rain dance on Friday the 13th to see results
etc.

At the end of the day - Google has a formula for calculating their SERPs. Just like their other Google formulas (Quality Score etc.) there are probably several hundred factors that go into it.

My own testing jives with what you've seen - that profile links (and any attempts to "boost" them through RSS) are crap :-)

-Vikram

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John34

16 years ago

Originally Posted by vikramd

I have to agree with this post, i personally stopped using those profile links, they are of no value now, instead try getting links from article marketing, press releases, blog comments etc.They work much better those profile links. Of course u will see lot of good comments about those profile links from guys who are selling those monthly packages.

One user posted good points about those profile links here
http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ow-fast-2.html

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4morereferrals

16 years ago

Originally Posted by John34

nd then Google will find the links of the profile pages within and index them?

Yes its a method/concept to get them indexed. Its efficacy is questionable.

I dont sell profile links per se ... Im more of a write and spin an article or piece of content with "in content" links and post it - kinda backlinks guy - as well as video embeds with html anchor texts describing it, and photo uploads with html anchor text descriptions.

But this post is borderline blasphemy now. backlinks on wf are now voodoo

to the dude bashing profile links ... sorry - you are mistaken. They do and can work. BUT - getting them in the index is the trick. A link on a page that google never sees is not a link. I'm sorry you feel that the only thing you should have to do for seo is put html anchor text on a forum profile page and that should just work.

Just like making a blog post to get it ranked wont work too well either. I liken you comment about profile backlinks to this...

I wrote an article based upon someones PLR and submitted it to Ezine and GoArticles. I have no traffic and no sales. Article marketing sucks and doesnt work.

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Rysk 16 years ago

I agree with 4more refererals, I guess once they are indexed they do count as a relevant inbound link for your anchor text but it just seems very hard to get them indexed. I started link building 2.5 months ago and it seems that all my blog comments have been indexed but maybe just 10% of my profile signatures have...

So if creating RSS links and submitting them also doesn't get them indexed what does? BIE, Backlink Booster... more investment, more expense with questionable results?
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Vikram73

16 years ago

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

That's not what I'm saying. Article marketing if done properly can and will earn you money.

Article marketing is based on some sound ideas & there are plenty of Warriors who are making good money with just a blog and article marketing.

I don't think the same can be said for someone who does profile links.

If it has no measurable impact it shouldn't be bothered with.

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4morereferrals

16 years ago

Right ... but it IS what I'M saying. We have no idea what your methods of placing profile links were / are - so ... you statement has just about the same merit as mine above on article marketing.

There's mountains of evidence and proof by people using profile style links achieving rank and PR [ PR means the links pass juice ]. There's no mystery raindance needed - the method and process is simple yet tedious. Using rss to get them indexed is not effective IMHO - but once the links get in the index - they are just as viable as any blog comment on some other page.

We werent comparing whether article marketing makes money and if backlinking on profiles makes money.

Perhaps you might ask Terry Kyle Tom Goodwin or Angela edwards how it is they ranked for their terms ( backlinks ) - 90% forum profile backlinks. Angelas site/article is PR5 too as well as #1-2-3 vs. wikipedia routinely - and theres a few people with backlinks out the wazoo on that term.

And sorry but the efficacy and value of profile backlinks has and is easily documented.

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inter123

16 years ago

What would be a simple way to get them indexed?

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

There's no mystery raindance needed - the method and process is simple yet tedious. Using rss to get them indexed is not effective IMHO...

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Rysk

16 years ago

I've been following the debates about the value of profile signature links on other threads and my conclusion from the threads, not my own efforts, is that once they're indexed they do seem to count, the problem is getting them indexed and the time and expense in doing so.

Can the time (undertaking the processes in getting the actual sig links indexed) and expense (buying further software BIE or BB) be better used working other link channels e.g getting articles written. I've just re-engineered the links of a competitor and only 15% of his links were from signature profiles, now maybe he has spent just 15% of him time building profile links but I doubt this is the case.

For part time IM's I/we have limited time and money (Money - I can't buy every single piece of link building software, Time - I have 4 evenings a week + one day at the weekend), and there's an opportunity cost to spending time on pursuing one channel/type of inbound links.

At the moment I'm just not convinced that sweating blood and effort getting signature profile links is worth it when i can post blog comments and do article marketing and feel confident that these links will actually get indexed even if ''less'' inbound links are actually created.

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4morereferrals

16 years ago

At the moment I'm just not convinced that sweating blood and effort getting signature profile links is worth it when i can post blog comments and do article marketing and feel confident that these links will actually get indexed even if ''less'' inbound links are actually created.

To each there own sir :-) rock on with what works best for you. There's no single path to SEO success, but to condemn a method as not working because it "didnt work for you" when there are literally hundreds of people using it effectively for serps - is what I was trying to get across.

Blog comment spam is is no better or more functional for backlinks imho.

Copying and pasting your links into a tool like BIE and letting it do its thing automatically over time - doesnt seem like too much efforts to me? Hell outsource that! [ as well ]

There's a dude using eza and a few other article dir's in one of my niche keywords - insurance related - over 350 eza articles most ALL of them start wit hthe keywords in the title - and have the term liberally in the content and his links in bio also are linked on that anchor text - im pretty confident he's trying for the term.

300+ articles. I have 4? I kick his ass in serps for the term - and frankly its not all that competitive. Hella work for him and sad ... to get smoked by image uploads - profiles - and blog posts [ many dupes or gently spun ]

depends on your strategy - I dont see it as mutually exclusive ... do em both!

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Rysk 16 years ago

''To each there own sir :-) rock on with what works best for you. There's no single path to SEO success, but to condemn a method as not working because it "didnt work for you" when there are literally hundreds of people using it effectively for serps - is what I was trying to get across.''

I'm new to organic SEO and I don't know what works or will work, I come to this forum to get ideas as to the best methods and practices from those who know and have tested. I'm sure signature links can and do work but its getting them indexed which is the key.
Like I said, i do this P/T so there's an opportunity cost if I do signature links and they just don't get indexed

''Copying and pasting your links into a tool like BIE and letting it do its thing automatically over time - doesnt seem like too much efforts to me? Hell outsource that! [ as well ]''

OK, so i didn't this is all there is to BIE. The original intention behind this post was to find out how to get signature links indexed as creating RSS feeds hadn't worked in getting my profile linkes indexed.
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- 4morereferrals 16 years ago
  
  'm new to organic SEO and I don't know what works or will work,
  
  I was actually referencing my comments in those regard to the other posters in the thread saying profile links arent effective.
  
  Also - truly there's no one right way to get backlinks and get serps - there's several paths to the promised land - all with varying degrees of pain cost and frustrations.
  
  OK, so i didn't this is all there is to BIE. The original intention behind this post was to find out how to get signature links indexed
  
  In essence - once you get BIE setup - its a automated process. The hard part is getting it setup. Since this forum frowns on anything other than white hat seo and backlink methods - you may want to join hte fray over on terry kyles backlinks forum. good stuff. I think it would help you out a great deal.
  
  There's a career full of seo content here as well - discerning wheat from chaff is the challenge.
  
  Sorry if the tone came across wrong in the text - I meant no criticism etc.
  
  Good luck in all you do!
  
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