article backlinks question

14 years ago

If I were you, I wouldn't worry about it. However, you can "help" your articles getting indexed by pinging them and/or bookmarking them.

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H.Miller

14 years ago

Yea I wouldn't worry about it. If you posted the article and you have a link in it then you know you have a backlink. Not all of your backlinks will show up in yahoo site explorer. However, that doesn't mean that its not there.

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Wide

14 years ago

Takes time for the search engines to index your backlinks, guess EZ get indexed more often than goarticles in this case.

I would however rewrite some of the articles and upload to other article directories while you wait, to get even more backlinks

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netoptions 14 years ago

Do a search on this forum for article syndication, and read the many posts all the way through. You'll get a lot of help on how to make your articles really work for you the right way. Awesome advice, better than I have seen anywhere.
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supershoesclub

14 years ago

I think it just a time problem, as long as the page is indexed by yahoo, it means you have got a backlink from them already.

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Adie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bobgeo

I have about 10 articles submitted in goarticle directory about 6 months back pointing to my website but till today none of the article is shown as backlink in yahoo site explorer where as the article submitted in the ezine is shown as back link , both ezien and goarticles have dofollow link but why it happens like this any idea

You can't expect yahoo site explorer show each and every one of your backlink. The best thing to do is, submit and forget... the prize will follow later....

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shuvo

14 years ago

Yeah try with some other backlinks checker tools like backlinkwatch.com and never worry on those issues with which you cant do anything.I mean it solely depends on Google what to index or not to index.Your main target should be taking enough actions to get them counted as backlinks.

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Miguelito203

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bobgeo

I have about 10 articles submitted in goarticle directory about 6 months back pointing to my website but till today none of the article is shown as backlink in yahoo site explorer where as the article submitted in the ezine is shown as back link , both ezien and goarticles have dofollow link but why it happens like this any idea

Some of your links will show up faster than others. In this case, it's most likely because EZA is gets way more traffic and gets visits from the search bots more regularly. A link is a link -- no worries.

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cooler1

14 years ago

Have you submitted your Ezine author RSS feed to RSS directories? It may help with indexing.

For some reason Goarticles backlinks never show up in backlink checkers although Ezine backlinks do show up. I don't know the reason for this as they are both dofollow.

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loke

14 years ago

Are the articles you submitted to Ezine Directory the same ones you submitted also to Goarticle directory, if that is the case, the articles in Ezine got indexed first, then Google won't index the ones in Goarticle since they are duplicate.

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Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by loke

if that is the case, the articles in Ezine got indexed first, then Google won't index the ones in Goarticle since they are duplicate.

This isn't right at all!

First, they're not "duplicate", they're "syndicated". Secondly, that doesn't stop Google (or any other search engine) from indexing it. Why on Earth would it? (It will sometimes stop Google from listing it in the main index, but that's a totally different matter and one that doesn't affect the backlink value anyway. Is that - perhaps - what you're thinking of?).

I have about 1,500 articles in EZA all of which were originally published on my own sites first - in identical form - for all the obvious reasons discussed here. After they were indexed on my own sites, I submitted them all to EZA (and elsewhere) and they're all indexed there (and elsewhere), too. But according to your view above, they shouldn't be "since they are duplicate"?! :rolleyes:

Apologies if I sound frustrated about this, but it's really hard to understand why people believe things like this, and especially why they try to propagate and perpetuate such misinformation.

The fact that an article has previously been published elsewhere does not stop Google from indexing it.
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AnniePot

14 years ago

Originally Posted by loke

Are the articles you submitted to Ezine Directory the same ones you submitted also to Goarticle directory, if that is the case, the articles in Ezine got indexed first, then Google won't index the ones in Goarticle since they are duplicate.

Alexa... I saw this several minutes ago, but I (unfortunately perhaps) don't have your patience. I just shook mt head and moved on. :rolleyes:

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bobgeo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by loke

Are the articles you submitted to Ezine Directory the same ones you submitted also to Goarticle directory, if that is the case, the articles in Ezine got indexed first, then Google won't index the ones in Goarticle since they are duplicate.

Thanks for all the reply and useful treads, I have submitted orginal content to goarticles and not duplicate content.

now a days i see that ezine is not allowing a an aricle written on some topic and in the author bio/resources pointing to a different site with different topic,

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14 years ago

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monicac

14 years ago

Try pinging your article link through bulkping and it will certainly help in getting your article indexed..

If you can afford go with linklicious and it will certainly get your article crawled by spiders..

Also just that your article is not indexed doesn't mean that the backlink from that article is not being counted...if spider crawls your article then you will certainly get the benefit of backlink from that article...it is not like search engines will index all the URLs but once it crawls you will get benefit of the backlink but it is just that it wont be shown as a record some where..

BTW when you are submitting to article directories you shouldn't consider them for seo, as they will no way help you in SEO..but instead they will get some targeted visitors to your site...so dont expect much of SEO benefit from article directories..

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cashtree

14 years ago

Originally Posted by k3rtiichow

BTW when you are submitting to article directories you shouldn't consider them for seo, as they will no way help you in SEO..but instead they will get some targeted visitors to your site...so dont expect much of SEO benefit from article directories..

Thought that was the whole point? Backlink=helping with search engine rank, now you're saying it won't help much?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cashtree

Thought that was the whole point?

You misunderstod, I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by cashtree

Backlink=helping with search engine rank, now you're saying it won't help much?

He's right: it won't.

"Getting backlinks" is not the purpose of submitting articles to article directories.

Those "backlinks" are non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks.

Even before Google's algorithm change devalued the article directories so much, the authors of the standard SEO textbooks were rightly saying that you'd need something between 50,000 and 100,000 of those "backlinks" to give you the link-juice equivalent to one backlink from a relevant authority site.

100,000 of those "backlinks" and $3.50 will now buy you a cappuccino at Starbuck's.

The people trying to use article directories for their own backlinks (rather than as a stepping-stone to syndication) are all the ones starting the hundreds of threads here called "Article Marketing Is Dead" and "Article Marketing Doesn't Work". Because they all clearly feel what they're doing is dead, and doesn't work (and by the way it isn't really "article marketing" either: they only think it is - it's actually just "trying to use directories for their own traffic and their own backlinks" - which many other, successful article marketers call "article directory marketing" - and it's not very surprising they all say they're having such a hard time with it, because that isn't what article directories are there for!).

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cashtree

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

You misunderstod, I'm afraid.

He's right: it won't.

"Getting backlinks" is not the purpose of submitting articles to article directories.

Those "backlinks" are non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks.

Even before Google's algorithm change devalued the article directories so much, the authors of the standard SEO textbooks were rightly saying that you'd need something between 50,000 and 100,000 of those "backlinks" to give you the link-juice equivalent to one backlink from a relevant authority site.

100,000 of those "backlinks" and $3.50 will now buy you a cappuccino at Starbuck's.

The people trying to use article directories for their own backlinks (rather than as a stepping-stone to syndication) are all the ones starting the hundreds of threads here called "Article Marketing Is Dead" and "Article Marketing Doesn't Work". Because they all clearly feel what they're doing is dead, and doesn't work (and by the way it isn't really "article marketing" either: they only think it is - it's actually just "trying to use directories for their own traffic and their own backlinks" - which many other, successful article marketers call "article directory marketing" - and it's not very surprising they all say they're having such a hard time with it, because that isn't what article directories are there for!).

sigh, this makes getting real backlinks even harder, lot of blogs use that nofollow crap tag so commenting on those won't help either. How come I constantly see people say they use articles for backlinking and I see people go crazy on how effective they are? Purely for syndication purposes?

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Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by cashtree

How come I constantly see people say they use articles for backlinking

A lot of people talk nonsense. Sometimes the blind are leading the partially sighted, and a few people even imagine that "SEO" is, per se, the primary objective of what they think of as "article marketing" - and even a few (honestly!) who perceive of article marketing only in SEO terms! :rolleyes: :p

The people to whom you refer are typically a big mixture of little subgroups, all with different motivations and attempted justifications of their own to propagate this nonsense ...

(i) People who've never actually read a professionally-published, peer-reviewed, standard textbook of SEO written by a reliable, acknowledged expert, but have got all their "information" online, becoming dreadfully misinformed in the process;

(ii) People selling spinning and/or mass-submission software or services who have a vested interest in others continuing to imagine that this is a sensible thing to do;

(iii) People buying spinning and/or mass-submission software or services who don't want to face the thought that they've missed the point, missed the boat and misunderstood "article marketing";

(iv) People whose information is 5/6 years out of date (I hear that this used to be a viable thing to do, back then: I came online only in 2008 and it was certainly more or less defunct by then);

(v) People who just don't know what they're talking about but like repeating urban myths which they've seen other people repeating in other forum threads: this is how all this nonsense becomes mythical, and perpetuated;

There are also one or two people who genuinely do use what they call "articles" for backlinking, and do so successfully. I know of one person here who does this (but promotes it as a service here so is obviously also in the "financial incentive" category mentioned above) - he's found a way of making it work, but by his own admission it depends on mega-scale mass-submission to his own privately owned huge blog network (i.e. not to article directories), and he builds 500,000 backlinks per day - obviously very few people have the resources to try to parallel such a brute-force approach as this.
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Kurt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

You misunderstod, I'm afraid.

Those "backlinks" are non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks.

Unless it's an orphan, no page has a true PR of "absolute" 0. Also, as explained before, and in the SEO textbook "SEO for Dummies", context isn't all about the entire site.

To repeat for another time, context isn't black and white, it is various shades of gray and is determined by:

1. Anchor text
2. The words closest to the link, AKA "proximity"
3. Other words and html on the page
4. Other pages linked to and from, both internal and external.
5. The site

Also, whether the link(s) are clustered or CONTEXTUAL on given pages is a factor of "link juice" passed as well as other factors like link age, domain age, link velocity and link decay, etc.

It's quite possible some of those posting their bad results claiming that links from articles are suffering, are a function of things like a slowing of their link velocity rather than from the perception of "low value links".

Even before Google's algorithm change devalued the article directories so much, the authors of the standard SEO textbooks were rightly saying that you'd need something between 50,000 and 100,000 of those "backlinks" to give you the link-juice equivalent to one backlink from a relevant authority site.

100,000 of those "backlinks" and $3.50 will now buy you a cappuccino at Starbuck's.

Please site the source of this, as there are too many variables to make this conclusion.

Also, the SEO textbook "SEO for Dummies" recommends a mixture of links, including the advice to have more low value links that high value links, because this is the more natural pattern.

This is also something I've recommended for many years.

Plus, for some low-competition keywords, a handful of low-value links is all one needs.

The people trying to use article directories for their own backlinks (rather than as a stepping-stone to syndication) are all the ones starting the hundreds of threads here called "Article Marketing Is Dead" and "Article Marketing Doesn't Work". Because they all clearly feel what they're doing is dead, and doesn't work (and by the way it isn't really "article marketing" either: they only think it is - it's actually just "trying to use directories for their own traffic and their own backlinks" - which many other, successful article marketers call "article directory marketing" - and it's not very surprising they all say they're having such a hard time with it, because that isn't what article directories are there for!).

Not true. There are "some" people starting these threads, but many others have had success using article submission as part of their over-all linking mix and aren't starting threads asking for help.

One major problem is those with concerns about using articles for SEO/linking are posting their linking concerns in the Main WF, instead of the WF SEO board, where the linking pros hang out and more accurate advice is given.

And the use of "article directory marketing" is erroneous, as using articles for linking goes far beyond merely the use of article directories, and includes resources like 3rd party blogging as well as Web 2.0 sites.

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Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago

Hi Kurt, please excuse my not re-typing or copy/pasting a lot of answers, but I can't really add usefully to the comments I made in this post and this post, and all the observations made by myself and by so many others throughout most of this thread.
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cashtree

14 years ago

Never-mind I got the answer in another thread, thanks.

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Kylebennett 14 years ago

Article is the best way to create backlinks in your site, you can put more than 3 backlink at-time . But its not so easy to create.....
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RahulSingh

14 years ago

Firstly check your article page where your article is live is indexed or not. If not then just wait and watch or do some work for your that page.

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DeborahDera

14 years ago

I have a lot of articles out there and they don't all show when the reports are run.

If you are worried, you can increase the value of your marketing work by bookmarking your articles and submitting them to social media sites. The more attention your articles get, the greater the value of the links within them.

Originally Posted by bobgeo

I have about 10 articles submitted in goarticle directory about 6 months back pointing to my website but till today none of the article is shown as backlink in yahoo site explorer where as the article submitted in the ezine is shown as back link , both ezien and goarticles have dofollow link but why it happens like this any idea

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AndyBlackSEO

14 years ago

Most links will get picked up and counted if the content is valid and passes a 'threshold'.

However, it very common for internet marketers to have a system in place that allows them to build links to other pages that contain their links. Not only does this help them to get crawled and indexed by the search engines but it will also give more weight to the backlinks contained in these 'original' articles.

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nevrak

14 years ago

After 6 months? Hmmmh, I think you can make use of some pinging

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bobgeo 14 years ago

Originally Posted by nevrak

After 6 months? Hmmmh, I think you can make use of some pinging

what do you mean by pinging , is it like pasting the link in pingfarm or rpc pingomatic and then send the ping, do i have to do it daily for the same link or how many times in a day i have to do this . how to check if the link got indexed is it by simply pasting the link in Google search box and do the search and check if the results shows the link .

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warriorspirit786

14 years ago

My experience disagrees with Alexa.

I have done a recent article spin submission to article directories, which helped my brand new site to appear position 2 on google.com for a local keyword.

Im sure this was due to all the articles generating backlinks to my site which gave me a massive boost in serps.

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ours

14 years ago

It will take time if it not get cached - so dont worry you have done your job use your time to do more.

Originally Posted by bobgeo

I have about 10 articles submitted in goarticle directory about 6 months back pointing to my website but till today none of the article is shown as backlink in yahoo site explorer where as the article submitted in the ezine is shown as back link , both ezien and goarticles have dofollow link but why it happens like this any idea

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aaronjunited

14 years ago

this is a confusing thread. There is mixed and uncertain answers in this thread which is absolutely no use to the OP.

One is saying submitting articles to directorys with your link in them is going to give you backlinks, therfor higher ranking, more traffic and so on.

Then the other is saying submitting articles to directorys isnt for linkbacking and doesnt get you link backs and so on.

Wtf????

Explain in plain english and say it does or doesnt.

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bobgeo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aaronjunited

this is a confusing thread. There is mixed and uncertain answers in this thread which is absolutely no use to the OP.

One is saying submitting articles to directorys with your link in them is going to give you backlinks, therfor higher ranking, more traffic and so on.

Then the other is saying submitting articles to directorys isnt for linkbacking and doesnt get you link backs and so on.

Wtf????

Explain in plain english and say it does or doesnt.

trying to read between the line and took what i feel most appropriate also got some insight on article marketing through the link provided

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Jacko 14 years ago

Sometimes GoArticles takes longer to index, but don't worry,
YahooExplorer doesn't show all the links in a site.

Just ping, bookmark and get other links for your articles
and you'll see them going up on the serps quickly
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Ga RedNeck

14 years ago

I might would Ping them but i wouldnt build backlinks unless its a site you own
Id backlink My own domain.

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dagaul101

14 years ago

It seems Google is not the only search engine that has recently devalued the links of many top article directories

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lalitbansal004 14 years ago

hmmm..Please Don't Comapre Ezine With Goarticles...Ezine is More More Better than Goarticles.

And for Indexing Purpose .Do Bookmarking for Your goarticles Link. and Then Check it in backlink watch.

Hope It will be there now.

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