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Unread 22nd Jul 2009, 05:58 PM   #751
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"I only look at search count and soc"

I just cant seem to recall what soc stands for can someone explain?
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I have a question about ranking. I am using MNF and I found a keyword that has 11k exact search results, but 34 million results when i search in google. My question is: does the broad search affect anything? Or when using MNF, you just find something with low exact search results, good cpc, low soc and go for it? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by RaShon Wells View Post

Yes it is true that I am not a beginner to IM, but I am a complete NOOB to adsense. I just took what was in this thread and took action. Did keyword research, check competition, get a kw optimized domain, get hosting, write content for websites, then write articles for backlinks.

It was that easy and the 3 sites I am making money with have ZERO backlinks. As soon as they got indexed they shot straight to the first page and started making money.

So even though I am not a complete newbie to IM I am new to adsense.
I assume you selected some nice "buying" keyword niches that are making you money with Adsense already. I have several of my sites on the first page of Google (from #3-#10) with no backlinks as well, but only getting about 5-10 impressions a day on each with maybe a 1-2 clicks total daily among the 4-5 sites. I guess it comes down to making sure your visitor is in a buying state and then they will click away.

By the way from those 3 sites that you Adsense on are you getting alot of traffic and also high CTR? Are you clicks per decent (more than $0.25)?
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I have a question for John or anyone. I just read (not sure where) that it's not a good idea to use Google Analytics to track stats on multiple adsense oriented sites. If I remember the article correctly, it stated that it's better to use a stats tracker that has no affiliation with google, so that they can't make an easy connection that one is building many adsense sites.

I'm certainly not suggesting this is true, in fact I don't think google would (or should) be looking at my analytics for any kind of data. I'm just wondering if that is at all possible, and also which stats service should we grab if Analytics is a bad idea? I know of a few, just wondering if anyone has better recommendations.
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Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

I only look at search count and soc. Then Google the keyword and look at the competition (page one). I say go for it. You'll most likely get onto page one without any backlinking (somewhere between positions 6 and 9). Try it.
In MNF, what is the difference between Search Count and Exact Phrase Count?

I know search count is how many searches in Google. But what is Exact Phrase Count....it's always drastically different than Search Count.

I'm confused because MNF uses exact by default. So why are different numbers showing?

What am I missing here?
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The sites that got penalized had very little content (3-4 250 word product descriptions), yet were ranking on page one for their keywords. So if you are doing the same - pray you don't get reviewed and add some 5-7 pages of content asap.

I must note that the penalized sites had no other outgoing links apart from Adsense ads. I truly believe now that it is important not too look like you put them reviews/descriptions out there only for people to click the ads.
I just found a site today which had the .com version of a domain while I had the .net version , he had the default wordpress links on the page, one big square adsense banner , a custom header and one 10 word sentence and was ranking 1 spot ahead of me!

A site like that has to be slapped off surely?
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Bery inspiring thread, indeed. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Gabby12 View Post

"I only look at search count and soc"

I just cant seem to recall what soc stands for can someone explain?
Thanks, Mark
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Exclusive Strength of Competition (S.O.C.) Index Tells You at a Glance How Strong the Existing Competition is for any Keyword Phrase.
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Originally Posted by dv8 View Post

In MNF, what is the difference between Search Count and Exact Phrase Count?

I know search count is how many searches in Google. But what is Exact Phrase Count....it's always drastically different than Search Count.

I'm confused because MNF uses exact by default. So why are different numbers showing?

What am I missing here?
Exact phrase count is showing you how many web pages for that keyword that is in Google's index with quotes.
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Hi John,

This is interesting reading. I'm currently focusing on the affiliate marketing and product review route but I'm interested in diversifying. I've always felt that Amazon was a waste of time as they pay such a low commission. Please set me straight. Are you simply using Amazon to draw people to your site with a particular product keyword but the main income comes from Adsense?

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Thanks John and lonnie.
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I planned to put online a website with 4 pages of content (about 200-250 words/page, only one good keyword) but with bay37's bad experience, i understand that i must be careful. Well, i have a nice template that looks professional, but i have to put some 4-5 pages more now

John, you think that your one-page websites can resist at a manual review, or you just prefer "not to think about that scary thing"?

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Originally Posted by penny_preston View Post

Hi John,

This is interesting reading. I'm currently focusing on the affiliate marketing and product review route but I'm interested in diversifying. I've always felt that Amazon was a waste of time as they pay such a low commission. Please set me straight. Are you simply using Amazon to draw people to your site with a particular product keyword but the main income comes from Adsense?

I would definitely be interested in learning more about your techniques. I also use XSitePro (version 2).

Amazon may pay low commissions but there brand is trustworthy in the avg persons mind. I work in the mail room at my job and we are always delivering packages to employees who sit at there desk and shop on Amazon doing work hours. The majority of the shoppers are women which I plan on targetting when the Ebook comes out.
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Originally Posted by RaShon Wells View Post

Yes it is true that I am not a beginner to IM, but I am a complete NOOB to adsense. I just took what was in this thread and took action. Did keyword research, check competition, get a kw optimized domain, get hosting, write content for websites, then write articles for backlinks.

It was that easy and the 3 sites I am making money with have ZERO backlinks. As soon as they got indexed they shot straight to the first page and started making money.

So even though I am not a complete newbie to IM I am new to adsense.
Did you do any social bookmarking or anything at all to help them get indexed?
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Originally Posted by terryd View Post

I just found a site today which had the .com version of a domain while I had the .net version , he had the default wordpress links on the page, one big square adsense banner , a custom header and one 10 word sentence and was ranking 1 spot ahead of me!

A site like that has to be slapped off surely?
Yep, unless they add more content fast. I had over sites like that, all got slapped before I got around to developing them further. SO yeah, better do one by one and make sure you have some content there before you launch (first few days are fine). Don't leave empty pages with Adsense ads sitting in the SERPS.
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

I assume you selected some nice "buying" keyword niches that are making you money with Adsense already. I have several of my sites on the first page of Google (from #3-#10) with no backlinks as well, but only getting about 5-10 impressions a day on each with maybe a 1-2 clicks total daily among the 4-5 sites. I guess it comes down to making sure your visitor is in a buying state and then they will click away.

By the way from those 3 sites that you Adsense on are you getting alot of traffic and also high CTR? Are you clicks per decent (more than $0.25)?
This is why I like to focus on products so much. Of course just about
every niche will work for getting Adsense clicks, but when your site has
just one little block of ads above the fold on products, sales, deals,
discounts, trials, etc. then of course most people are going to click.

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Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

I have a question for John or anyone. I just read (not sure where) that it's not a good idea to use Google Analytics to track stats on multiple adsense oriented sites. If I remember the article correctly, it stated that it's better to use a stats tracker that has no affiliation with google, so that they can't make an easy connection that one is building many adsense sites.

I'm certainly not suggesting this is true, in fact I don't think google would (or should) be looking at my analytics for any kind of data. I'm just wondering if that is at all possible, and also which stats service should we grab if Analytics is a bad idea? I know of a few, just wondering if anyone has better recommendations.
The only tracking I use is awstats now and again to pick up any keywords
that people are finding my page for, that I did not plan on.

I then build a page around those keywords.

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Originally Posted by Magy View Post

I planned to put online a website with 4 pages of content (about 200-250 words/page, only one good keyword) but with bay37's bad experience, i understand that i must be careful. Well, i have a nice template that looks professional, but i have to put some 4-5 pages more now

John, you think that your one-page websites can resist at a manual review, or you just prefer "not to think about that scary thing"?
1) I do not purposefully build 1-page websites. I just get so loaded with
dozens of new niche ideas every day that I just forget a few, but they
still continue to earn each day on their own.

2) No, I do not stress over having my sites reviewed. If I stressed over
every little thing that the big "G" can do, I'd never get any work done.

I would just be sitting at the computer in fear, never wanting to do
anything (been there, done that).

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Yeah, i think i am your exact opposite
I think too much about risks, and i do nothing at the end. I have an ebook finished, i have my sales-letter done too, but, well, i am still thinking about things and i dont jump in the water.
It's time too change my behaviour.

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2) No, I do not stress over having my sites reviewed. If I stressed over
every little thing that the big "G" can do, I'd never get any work done.
I don't think it's so much "stressing over" having them reviewed. If it happens, your 1 page websites are going down. that is guaranteed, as it just happened to me, I have no reason to lie or anything.

I moved on, **** it. Shit happens. That shouldn't stop anyone from taking action.
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Originally Posted by XFactor View Post

The only tracking I use is awstats now and again to pick up any keywords
that people are finding my page for, that I did not plan on.

I then build a page around those keywords.

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Yeah I do the exact same thing.

peter:

I wouldn't worry about using analytics on your pages. If you already have Adsense ads on them, Google knows that the sites belong to you. Whoever told you that stuff about analytics and stuff is full of shit.

If I was creating CB sniper sites or Amazon sniper sites, or any other type of websites not related to Adsense then yeah I wouldn't use anything Google... Not even Gmail.
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Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

I just read (not sure where) that it's not a good idea to use Google Analytics to track stats on multiple adsense oriented sites. If I remember the article correctly, it stated that it's better to use a stats tracker that has no affiliation with google, so that they can't make an easy connection that one is building many adsense sites.
I've often wondered about this too. I love the stats that GA provides, and the ease of having all my site's stats in on one page -- but I hate that I'm telling Google exactly which sites are mine.

Then again, I understand that they know this info either way, since they bought/own a domain name Registry just for this purpose.

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I'm certainly not suggesting this is true, in fact I don't think google would (or should) be looking at my analytics for any kind of data.
Should? Maybe not. Would? Think again. Why do you suppose Google paid millions to buy Urchin (the best stats software on the market that collects data on every single move a user makes) then gave away the service for free? Do you really think they just wanted to be nice?
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CONGRATULATIONS, hopefully one day ill be able to make the same amount
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There is a setting in google analytics to not share data with google.
It says that, when enabled (default) it sends anonymous data back to google.
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As was pointed out above, if have Adsense on your sites, then obviously Google knows each and every site by your pub-id, how many impressions, etc.

The one thing I would disagree with Xfactor about is the importance of using some sort of analytics. Not having some sort of good tracking i.e. who, what, when, where, how, is akin to 'driving blind'.

It's easy to dismiss it when you're getting clicks, but how many are you leaving on the table? There is soooo much you can do to boost your pageviews, CTR's, ranking, etc. by knowing how and what your site is doing, not to mention how effective various efforts are, or aren't.

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The one thing I would disagree with Xfactor about is the importance of using some sort of analytics. Not having some sort of good tracking i.e. who, what, when, where, how, is akin to 'driving blind'.

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Actually Mark, there is nothing to disagree about.

I never said that using tracking wasn't important, I just was being honest
about the fact that I do not use stats as much as I probably should.

For every move I make, there will be another move someone says I should
do better. This could go on forever.

But I'm very happy with my results, very happy.

So my advice is this: Take my information and use what you like, take
out what you don't like, and move forward.


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Actually Mark, there is nothing to disagree about.

I never said that using tracking wasn't important, I just was being honest
about the fact that I do not use stats as much as I probably should.

For every move I make, there will be another move someone says I should
do better. This could go on forever.

But I'm very happy with my results, very happy.

So my advice is this: Take my information and use what you like, take
out what you don't like, and move forward.


- John
John,

Obviously your results speak for themselves, and I didn't mean to imply you were suggesting not to use analytics.

You have an advantage over many who read this thread in that you've been doing this a while, have went through a great deal of trial and error, and developed a good intuition from empirical data.

For those who don't yet have the experience or intuition, analytics data provides feedback as to what works and why, why something that seems right isn't, etc.

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I do not what you guys think but as a paying customer this has gotten old. I smell something fishy.
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Originally Posted by lonniewa2 View Post

I do not what you guys think but as a paying customer this has gotten old. I smell something fishy.
Lonnie, at first I thought this was going to be an easy 25 page report.

However, the course is now turning into a 60 page ebook, action plan,
videos, and a members area where I will be taking your questions by
email and posting very thorough answers daily, at no extra charge.

So it's taking me a lot longer than expected but will definitely be up
by tomorrow.

Please, I have asked that these questions not be posted on this thread
because threads are not supposed to be self-promotional.

You could ruin this great thread for everyone else.

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Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

John,

Obviously your results speak for themselves, and I didn't mean to imply you were suggesting not to use analytics.

You have an advantage over many who read this thread in that you've been doing this a while, have went through a great deal of trial and error, and developed a good intuition from empirical data.

For those who don't yet have the experience or intuition, analytics data provides feedback as to what works and why, why something that seems right isn't, etc.

Mark
Yes you are absolutely correct as well. and I do plan on becoming a
"stat guy" in the near future. It can only help

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So it's taking me a lot longer than expected but will definitely be up by tomorrow.
I think those of us that have waited patiently without complaining should get a little bonus! :p
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Firstly, thanks all for answering my questions about the stats tracker. I love google analytics as well, which is why I wondered how I might put new sites at risk by using it to track all of them. I thought it was a rather dodgy comment considering they will already know I am linking many sites to one adsense account.

John,
Tracking is truly golden once you get hip to all the features and areas in which it can help boost productivity. For setting and tracking goals, for managing multiple campaigns and strategies, e.t.c... Analytics is one service I would find it very hard to do without.

Lonniewa2,
sorry but I don't think you should be questioning the motives of a guy that consistently comes in here to answer replies, even when the questions he answers are for the most part redundant, repetitive, and sometimes downright ridiculous.

If he says it's taking him longer in order to provide you a better customer experience, I just don't see what the issue is. While I agree it's prudent to be wary on the internet, this is just simply not one of those cases. He has consistently given great advice here and does not deserve that comment.
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Firstly, thanks all for answering my questions about the stats tracker. I love google analytics as well, which is why I wondered how I might put new sites at risk by using it to track all of them. I thought it was a rather dodgy comment considering they will already know I am linking many sites to one adsense account.

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Tracking is truly it's golden once you get hip to all the features and areas in which it can help boost productivity. For setting and tracking goals, for managing multiple campaigns and strategies, e.t.c... Analytics is one service I would find it very hard to do without.

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sorry but I don't think you should be questioning the motives of a guy that consistently comes in here to answer replies, even when the questions he answers are for the most part redundant, repetitive, and sometimes downright ridiculous.

If he says it's taking him longer in order to provide you a better customer experience, I just don't see what the issue is. While I agree it's prudent to be wary on the internet, this is just simply not one of those cases. He has consistently given great advice here and does not deserve that comment.
Listen why do some members think that they can take upon themselves to defend others like they some know it all. I can question whoever I want and when I want.

Actually I appreciate all he has done with this thread. There is no question about that but paying money for a course that I have not yet to receive after missed deadline and so forth I have the right to complain and whine about it

I am sure John is a nice guy but that and the fact that he gave us free information is a whole other issue.

What if your pay a bill (internet provider) and they interrupt your service (non delivery of product) and they wait 4 weeks to provide the service even though you was expecting it weeks ago. Do you have a right to complain? Sure you do and what if I told you that you should not complain because they have given us a free month access in the past. Do you still have the right and is it justified. It is call customer service.

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It's ok everyone. We are all entitled to our feelings and opinions.

But let's keep this thread on-topic.

If it goes south with these types of replies, I do not doubt that
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Listen why do some members think that they can take upon themselves to defend others like they some know it all. I can question whoever I want and when I want.

Actually I appreciate all he has done with this thread. There is no question about that but paying money for a course that I have not yet to receive after missed deadline and so forth I have the right to complain and whine about it

I am sure John is a nice guy but that and the fact that he gave us free information is a whole other issue.
In the first place I'm not arbitrarily jumping in at all, I have been a part of this conversation since the beginning of the thread. Before you, in fact. So being a part of this communal conversation, I will state an ignorant post when I see it - because that is my right.

If there were the smallest amount of disingenuous reasoning going on in here, I would be the first to point it out. Ask around. I don't fall for hype.

Secondly, don't jump on me because I am pointing out that you are adding an unnecessary negative connotation to an innocuous situation. OP is offering you a system and advice that will more than likely help you to earn money.

John has been up front and honest about every delay - and the reasons for such - well you should be so lucky to find that. Most hitters around here wouldn't give you the time of day after that original post.

And yes, while you may have the right to whine and whinge about just about anything, it doesn't mean it's not incredibly BAD FORM. There are more people in here than you.

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What if your pay a bill (internet provider) and they interrupt your service (non delivery of product) and they wait 4 weeks to provide the service even though you was expecting it weeks ago. Do you have a right to complain? Sure you do and what if I told you that you should not complain because they have given us a free month access in the past. Do you still have the right and is it justified. It is call customer service.

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Way to compare an apple to an elephant and then complain when the elephant doesn't taste like an apple. What is being offered to you is a system that will help you increase your skills, not host your websites. You are in on a product as it is being built, not a stand alone server set up already in business. How much more "customer service" do you want? :rolleyes:

BTW, are you really that bad at being criticized? Because if so, you may want to consider a career that won't have you running into people with actual insight and educated opinions. Around these parts people let you know when you are being whiny, unreasonable, and whingy. In fact I know a few cats around here that would have just tore you a new one for being so bloody rude. I was not trying to insult you at all. Take that for what it's worth - and if you need to continue a flame war, PM or just ignore me because I don't want to hijack this thread.
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I think I may be researching my competition wrong. I have 14 sites so far.

5 of which are indexed - I made these on Monday.
9 which are not indexed yet - I made these on Wednesday.

All sites are keyword domains, either .com, .net, or .org. Some with an extra word like online, store, now etc.

For every keyword I picked, there was extremely low SOC. Usually 5-10 at the most. Also pretty low Exact Phrase Count less then 5000, in fact most being 100 or less. I made sure that most keywords had amazon or nextag at the top search results so that I would most likely take the first spot. Then I started getting backlinks.

Despite doing all these things, none of my sites have got the first page of google so far. I can find some of my sites on page 3, 8, 10 etc.

Am I being too impatient? I've been reading that people here have been automatically indexed to the first page with no backlinks making $10 a day.

With all these sites I've got 47 views and made 32 cents today, my CTR is 1.82% using the bluesense wordpress theme!? This doesn't make sense I have ads everywhere and in good spots.

Could anyone that is having success so far point out my errors?
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The first thing that I noticed is that you indicated that you have added an extra word like online, store, now etc...

All of the sites that I have had 'instant' success with have only used KEYWORD. com, net, org.

No Extra words. Just the KEYWORD or KEYWORDPHRASE, no extra words.

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5 of which are indexed - I made these on Monday.
9 which are not indexed yet - I made these on Wednesday.
Am I understanding correctly that you have just created the sites on Monday and Wednesday? If that is the case than you've answered your own question bro.

You need to wait, the amount of time is dependent on the niche and strength of your competition, to see any major SERP improvement. Sometimes it takes a few weeks, sometimes it takes a few months. And while you're waiting you need to be building backlinks all the time - as well as adding content and using other promoting techniques. If you are doing that, judging by the numbers you've provided, you will eventually find success.

(Let me know if I misunderstood you )

BTW, Michael, I've often used extra words within the keyword of my domain, and I have yet to notice this as having a negative effect. That's not to say you aren't right, just that IMO I haven't had any harder time by adding words to a keyword phrase.
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Anyone had any experience in out ranking Ezinearticles with this method, I've got 2 in the keyword phrase that I'm looking to take on and I'm wondering if anybody elses site has overtaken a EZA article?
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Anyone seeing the "consumersearch.com" domain competing in your "next" niche? Often a good sign actually that a niche is profitable for Adsense AND affiliate products.

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With all these sites I've got 47 views and made 32 cents today, my CTR is 1.82% using the bluesense wordpress theme!? This doesn't make sense I have ads everywhere and in good spots.
According to John, having one block is the best. Not "having them everywhere".

And just because you think they are in good spots doesn't mean people that visit your site think so or it's the best spot for high CTR. It's never about what you think. It's what the customer/visitor thinks that matters.
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Too many ad blocks on a page puts you at risk that a visitor clicks on the cheapest ad - meaning you do not know which ad is the highest bidding one where you would earn most. The more ads, the higher the chance that the lowest bidding ad gets the click. Reduce your number of ads to 1 ad block and you have the highest bidding ads guaranteed.

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Too many ad blocks on a page puts you at risk that a visitor clicks on the cheapest ad - meaning you do not know which ad is the highest bidding one where you would earn most. The more ads, the higher the chance that the lowest bidding ad gets the click. Reduce your number of ads to 1 ad block and you have the highest bidding ads guaranteed.
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According to John, having one block is the best. Not "having them everywhere".

And just because you think they are in good spots doesn't mean people that visit your site think so or it's the best spot for high CTR. It's never about what you think. It's what the customer/visitor thinks that matters.
Ah, makes sense. Never looked at it that way. So to make more money, quantity doesn't matter, its more quality. Thanks I was kind of puzzled how he was achieving such a high CTR. But now that I think about it this only increases my payout will that increase CTR too?

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Am I understanding correctly that you have just created the sites on Monday and Wednesday? If that is the case than you've answered your own question bro.

You need to wait, the amount of time is dependent on the niche and strength of your competition, to see any major SERP improvement. Sometimes it takes a few weeks, sometimes it takes a few months. And while you're waiting you need to be building backlinks all the time - as well as adding content and using other promoting techniques. If you are doing that, judging by the numbers you've provided, you will eventually find success.
Yeah, you're probably right. I am just being impatient. Well back to getting more backlinks it is!
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The fact that some are on page 1 with no backlinks messes with my mind too, but in your case, I think you haven't waited long enough. Also, what kind of backlinking have you done? It doesn't always show right away. Try using this tool:

Backlinks Checker Tool - Backlink Watch

Secondly, about your CTR, if you have 47 views from 14 sites, you've got +/- 3 views per site. With such a low number, CTR doesn't mean much. Looking at it daily doesn't mean all that much, because for a particular site, I have days that have 100% CTR and days with 0% CTR. You'll need to see what it averages out to over a week or so.

The niche also matters - some niches encourage more clicks. If you go back and read XFactor's posts, he talks about how his chosen niches are good for CTR.


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Am I being too impatient? I've been reading that people here have been automatically indexed to the first page with no backlinks making $10 a day.

With all these sites I've got 47 views and made 32 cents today, my CTR is 1.82% using the bluesense wordpress theme!? This doesn't make sense I have ads everywhere and in good spots.

Could anyone that is having success so far point out my errors?
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Anyone seeing the "consumersearch.com" domain competing in your "next" niche? Often a good sign actually that a niche is profitable for Adsense AND affiliate products.
Great site. I also use this for starting points on niche ideas.

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Anyone had any experience in out ranking Ezinearticles with this method, I've got 2 in the keyword phrase that I'm looking to take on and I'm wondering if anybody elses site has overtaken a EZA article?
Yes I have outranked many ezinearticles pages. This is not a problem so
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According to John, having one block is the best. Not "having them everywhere".

And just because you think they are in good spots doesn't mean people that visit your site think so or it's the best spot for high CTR. It's never about what you think. It's what the customer/visitor thinks that matters.
So, so true.

For those of you waiting on my course, I've got a replica site in the book
which shows you just how minimalistic my template is.

1 Adsense block not only pays more per click, but it really gives the viewer
no other choice but to click if they are truly after information on pricing
of the product they are searching for.

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Ive actually split test only 1 large (336x280) adsense block at the top of page compared to a large at the top and a banner and/or large block at the bottom.

I did this on a site with approx 1000 visitors a day over a few days and the 1 single large at the top paid and got a higher CTR (and made more $s) than having a large at the top and more at the end of article (2 blocks).

Strange.. You would think you would make more by having more adsense blocks even if they are not even visible on the same page. Through testing, my best adsense results are from 1 adsense block and sometimes 1 ad link somewhere.

Basically what John has described

Oooo I keep on hitting my email send/receive to see if the course is finished... (Just make it a Beta 0.87 version John) hehe...
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Ive actually split test only 1 large (336x280) adsense block at the top of page compared to a large at the top and a banner and/or large block at the bottom.

I did this on a site with approx 1000 visitors a day over a few days and the 1 single large at the top paid and got a higher CTR (and made more ) than having a large at the top and more at the end of article (2 blocks).

Strange.. You would think you would make more by having more adsense blocks even if they are not even visible on the same page. Through testing, my best adsense results are from 1 adsense block and sometimes 1 ad link somewhere.

Basically what John has described
Yep, no matter how many ways I've sliced it over the last 3-4 years,
1 block is best.

Oooo I keep on hitting my email send/receive to see if the course is finished... (Just make it a Beta 0.87 version John) hehe...
I'm adding my 7-day action plan to the last chapter and then have
to adjust the example niche videos with settings that I messed up somehow (camtasia).

Almost ready...

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