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John, kudos for opening up. I don't visit the forum too often (you can waste all your time here and get nothing done!) and just happened on this, so I'll be sure to point the readers of my whitehat VRE blog series to it, it fits perfectly with what I've been saying for a long time now. Eric | |
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I've been an avid reader of your blog for some time now, so I'll return the "kudos" right back at you, thanks! About the 1 block paying more, I didn't even realize that for over a year when I first started. But of course, I was scraping content and using programs like traffic equalizer in my beginning days, when adsense was easy, so I did not care much about details. - John | |
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OK, I've not heard of this and I've just taken my sidebar adsense off a few sites to test this out. I've always just assumed that 2 are better than one. Thanks for the heads up! | |
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You can stack three single-ad units on top of each other and track them separately to see which ones are being clicked on, too. Looks funny, though, and that may detract. Best is to do A/B testing with two different ad units and see which performs best. But all that takes work. I like your approach -- create some content, put an ad up, promote the site a bit, move on. Perfect for busy AdSense publishers. Eric | ||
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That's why reducing the number of ads shown can dramatically increase your earnings. Even if the total CTR is lower (because there aren't so many ads, more visitors are likely to leave without clicking) the earnings can be better. But it's not a hard-and-fast rule. Try it yourself and see how it goes. If your earnings go down, not up, bring back the other ads. Eric | |
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Let me also quote a relevant passage from a book I recently reviewed, The Drunkard's Walk:
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This may be a little misplaced, but when you guys use one big adblock, doesn't it look a little weird that it doesn't take up the whole width? How do you guys deal with this (wrap in div to center it etc)?
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If you have a niche that would ideally be, e.g. hotandcold[dot]com, would the next best alternative be hotcold[dot]com? Is 'and' a superfluous word that google would ignore anyway? It may not read well, but so long as it ranks... |
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Phhhewwwww! There is so much to learn around here, thanks to everyone for the fantastic info on this thread, I'll be adding this to my (long!) list of threads to study!
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After reading almost all of the messages on this thread, I felt like I have some new secret in my hand to blaze my way through adsense earning. But like John said, this is actually basic knowledge that everyone should have known when they enter the adsense world. Thanks John and all the experts who generously shared their experience here. I learned a lot. I'm gonna go now and implement this newfound information. |
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Heya Eric, I bought your adsense uncommon book, not a bad read at all (Way better than Joel Comm's Adsense Secrets v4 - He had too much Yabba Yabba (info) IMHO). Today I've just had my biggest adsense earnings day ever - and I owe it to this thread (Thanks to everyone who gave away solid info). I'm gonna go buy something on ebay to celebrate Cheers Adrian |
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Just a note: I stopped looking at SOC (in MNF). Kinda developed my own way of finding out what my "real" competition is, so there you go... I now rank for a handful of keywords that have a SOC (again, in MNF) over 3-9k. With just a domain/1 article on the homepage and zero backlinks. I'm only using MNF for the search count feature atm, which you can easily find out for free, but since I bought the thing I figured I might as well use it for something. MNF is still great, especially for beginners, as it's "numbers" are mostly correct and it just makes things a lot easier. I now only go for keywords that get at least 3k "exact" searches/month. At first I registered like 20 domains for keywords I thought were good. Then once I launched I noticed that one minisite was doing much better than the rest (most brought in around $0.40/day on average, but one of them was earning like $2-4/day without any work). So I looked at the stats and basically the only two things that are different about that site are search count (around 6k/month) and competition (amazon-like-websites). So theres your magic formula. Now all of my domains fit that criteria. The hardest part at the moment is writing at least 10 articles/day... I'm shit at writing so its a struggle. All who pmed me, sorry if I havent replied yet; I'm very busy trying to take my adsense business off the ground. Oh and so far Google nerds have killed 13 minisites of mine. Basically all the sites that had 1 article+adsense ads for content were killed off. I now make sure to launch with at least 10 pages of content. What I like to do is go through the top 10 Google results for my target keyword and pick one thing I like from each one of the 10 websites. Then either re-write or create my own articles (for those 10 "ideas/products"). Also, I ONLY buy exactkeyword.tld domains now. The exact match boost in SERPS is amazing. |
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bay37, Congrats on your success so far! So basically you are disregarding SOC and just analyzing the top 10 pages for shopping sites (Amazon, Nextag, etc)? Usually I find that keyword phrases that have a high search count and match this criteria, have positions 1-3 taken by VERY strong sites with the shopping sites further down. Are you just aiming for the front page or for top spot? Also, are you using static sites or WordPress? I love WP and am skilled enough to customize it in pretty much any way I want, but updating plugins and backing up databases on 40+ sites is not my idea of fun. Thinking I might have to checkout XSitePro.... |
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tool should only be used as a guide. Like anyone's advice, the think I don't like to see is my word taken as gospel. Everything that I help with should only be used as guidance. This business can work under hundreds of variables, all of them different. - John | |
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So if the keyword.com/.net/.org is NOT available you avoid the niche? I only ask because I have found that most times it is not available. So I always just add a word. Side note: I bought a .info domain the other day and put up a site. More of a testing sort of thing. I'm curious if .info's can rank well....they are only 89 cents. |
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They can but it will depend on the competition. If the .com/.net/.org are parked by some domain name speculator and you build a good SEO'ed site you'll be in position #1 with your .info quite often. But, if the .com is a 10 year old authority site for that keyword, you probably won't have a good chance.
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Just an update from my previous post - My earnings are up to $2 a day and climbing from that 32 cents post. Also my CTR is upwards to 25%. WOO! . 2/14 sites are on the first page, hopefully moving to the first position soon. One thing that I have noticed though is that my two .net domains do not even come up at all in the top 500 results in the SERPs. Yet all the .com's come up. I am wondering if .net has less authority then .com's? Or is this just a coincidence? |
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only is not available. Nothing is set in stone. There are no search engine rules that say "sorry, but you can't rank for this keyword because there are no keyword-only domains available, better luck next time..." Instead, go for it. You may not rank as fast, but if you have to get a domain with an extra keyword and submit a few more articles, so what? You are going to be working every day anyways, so go for it and see what the results will be. - John | |
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from just sitting between the #4 and lower positions below huge authority sites. - John | |
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I also avoid .info's. Although I have seen quite a few .info's ranking high on page one. Just as a side note, I haven't really done much to get my sites to the top spots. I'm mostly between positions 6 to 14 (no backlinks done). Shouldn't be difficult to reach top 5 for most keywords once I get around to it. | |
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I've been trying this for a while now with very little success, and I'd rather not have to spend any more money than I need to. | |
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Yes. com/net/org are all equally good. No difference whatsoever.
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Yes, and .info's and Blogger blogs. It all depends on the amount of competition in the niche and the work you're willing to put in promoting the site.
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They are equally good - however some people think that com's are the only way to go, if those people are potential visitors - you want to have a .com |
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I have two questions: 1. Do you only use .com domains? or would do you try others, specifically .info. Just read futher and saw you answered this already, for others interested he uses mainly .com but does have some .orgs. 2. You mention and example of "air mattresses for sale". I want to know if you personally have a limit to how long your domain name is? For instance if "air mattresses for sale in new york" is a well searched phrase, and is available, would you still take it? Thanks for the tips. Regards, John. | |
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Just wanted to say I'm also trying this and see the huge potential Got a keyword only .com with a Godaddy coupon, total invest so far: $7.60 or so. Wrote a few posts, submitted an article, made 10 high PR backlinks, we'll see how it goes... will definitely be scaling this to the sky if it works !
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I'm curious what your revenue would be like if you swapped out adsense for related cpa offers
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If I get a niche and the keyword only domain is not available shall I go with hyphen . Like keyword1-keyword2-keyword3.com Does it make any difference if I put hyphen in between to get the domain. Any views ?? |
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Hello, it's me... again I have now my website online. (the first one, the second will be online today) First article live in an article directory with a link to the website with the main keyword. My question is, it is good to write more articles to get more link with the keywords if they are published in the same site, i mean, Google will see more strengh for my keyword with ten articles from the same site than just one? I know that i must have a lot of backlinks from differents websites but it works with just one? In France, we have a lot of articles directory but not with high PR like ezinearticles (and i write in french, so i can't use ezine ), so, what is the best way, write differents articles and publish in differents articles directory, or everything on the better only? |
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not based on any type of testing. Create your own tests. Make a few domains with hypens and a few without. Let us know how it turned out. - John | |
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Hi to all, I have just been reading a post about how Google are now supposedly badly penalising product review type sites that get traffic using PPC. Does anybody have any thoughts about whether Google will carry this over into the searched listings? John. |
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My mini sites have pretty good info on them. I actually enjoy this because most of my sites contain clear info describing actual products that people have been using every day for years and years. | |
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One suggestion for you folks is to add Google Analytics tracking code to your AdSense pages. It's very easy to do (see my blog). Like John, I don't spend a lot of time looking at my traffic stats, but on occasion I find one of my sites is doing particulalrly well and I want to figure out why. Having the tracking in place makes it easy to go back for those cases and do some analysis. Eric |
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as long as your sites offer reasonable content and your not scammy you should be fine | |
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Is this course available yet or have I missed it?
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I mean, if the content is in English. | |
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just use .com, keep it simple the way to rank is to find high demand and low competition and get backlinks. seo is not complicated guess the course is delayed again, it is worth the wait |
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Oh good. I wasn't sure if it had come and gone or not yet arrived 'cause am unable to click on the link for it on Xfactor's comments.
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Great advice. I would also add that backlinks should be one way, and that relevance, athough a factor is not key. links from relevant pages with anchor text keywords are great, but one from a non relevant page is good, so don't spend your life only looking for relevance. |
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I have a .org domain on page 1 in the 10 spot. Two article got me to the first page.
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Suppose I want to get the first three position for my 10 something keyword/category. It will be a huge boost for my traffic. What do I do? I have a one year old site with my main keyword in the second position. But I also want to be there for my other related keywords. I have not tried article marketing. So if I do article marketing do I back link with my related keyword as anchored text? Marigold | |
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