Check out my automated niche blog business model (it really works)

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by natalie1

I'd be interested in more (paid) help w/gocodes and url redirection. I was able to easily set up the feeds to my blog but not sure if I'm doing the redirects correctly. I would love it if you did a WSO for your blog concept.

I'll see what I can do as far as a WSO. As for if you have questions about the GoCodes, feel free to ask here, or PM me if you like. I'm happy to help!

[Keith Kogane]

Just as a follow up, for the people that had trouble using WP-O-Matic, I'm looking into other plugins that may be able to be used to the same affect, and I'll update after I have a chance to experiment.

I've bought/downloaded/installed the following:

SmartRSS
FeeWordPress
Caffeinated Content
Autoblogged

And for the ones there that don't include the link addition/replacement that's key to the link building strategy, I'm testing:

Smart SEO Linker
KB Linker

Everything else with the technique remains the same, I'm just looking at alternatives to WP-O-Matic to make it a more robust solution that will work even if you can't get a given plugin to work. The more options, the better, right?

I'm also testing Utopia Cron to see if it'll work for the folks who can't set up a cron on their host.

More info coming soon!

[getsmartt]

Kieth a couple of more linking plugins you might check out

alinks
cross-linker(my current favorite because it allows you to enter a comma separated list of terms to link to a keyword)

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by getsmartt

Kieth a couple of more linking plugins you might check out

alinks
cross-linker(my current favorite because it allows you to enter a comma separated list of terms to link to a keyword)

Hell yes! I've been trying to find something like that. Thanks for the tip!

[Aaron Moser]

Kieth,

Your post got me thinking... If we used a product like Wordpress Cloner :: Clone Your Wordpress Blogs we could launch these these blog sites on a massive scale. All we'd have to do is create the first one from scratch and use wp-cloner each time we wanted a new blog. Then just go in and set up new RSS feeds for the content. I think this would cut down production time by half.

What do you think?

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by Aaron Moser

Kieth,

Your post got me thinking... If we used a product like Wordpress Cloner :: Clone Your Wordpress Blogs we could launch these these blog sites on a massive scale. All we'd have to do is create the first one from scratch and use wp-cloner each time we wanted a new blog. Then just go in and set up new RSS feeds for the content. I think this would cut down production time by half.

What do you think?

Yeah, it's funny - I used to use this plugin quite a bit when I was trying to focus on AdSense, but I stopped using it when I changed strategies. It might be time to revisit it now that I have a more workable, profitable system. Great suggestion!

[Dontrell Lyons]

That's a good business plan! The more ways you can use technology to do the grunt for you the better! IMO software is taking over the internet! lol

[Chuck Underwood]

Keith,

Thank you for the post. It is what I love about the WF.

Chuck

[Chris_L]

Keith,

Thank you for sharing your strategy with us.

Sorry if my question is a bit little off. I'm still learning this RSS feed thing. Do you grab RSS feeds from video sharing sites as well, like YouTube? If so, how do you do that? I can never figure it out.

Thanks.

Chris

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by Chris_L

Keith,

Thank you for sharing your strategy with us.

Sorry if my question is a bit little off. I'm still learning this RSS feed thing. Do you grab RSS feeds from video sharing sites as well, like YouTube? If so, how do you do that? I can never figure it out.

Thanks.

Chris

Yeah, you just get the feed URL and plug it into the WP-O-Matic. It'll repost the video embed automatically. I don't do this frequently, as I'm doing this for SEO automation and the videos don't do any. But I've seen it work, YMMV as I don't use it usually.

[remac22]

First, thank you very much Keith for opening my eyes to some very interesting new opportunities!

Now, I do have some questions since I just set up my first two autoblogs...

1)Is there any advantage to using GoCodes over my link cloaker of choice, ø Link Cloaking Plugin for WordPress | W-Shadow.com ø ?
I ask because for some reason the titles of my posts aren't getting cloaked, although on the Links sidebar they ARE cloaked.... I feel like wp-o-matic is conflicting with it but not sure.

2) I thought I inserted the code correctly into my cron file, but when I checked this morning I had to click "fetch" in order for my new posts to show up. Am I right that I'm supposed to be editing the file located at wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cron.php ?

If so, here's where I inserted it, let me know if I messed something up:

<?php

*/20 * * * * /usr/bin/curl http://[site-edited].com/wp-content/...cron.php?code=[code-edited]

require_once(dirname(__FILE__) . '/../../../wp-config.php');

nocache_headers();

// if uninstalled, let's not do anything
if(! get_option('wpo_version'))
return false;

// check password
if(isset($_REQUEST['code']) && $_REQUEST['code'] == get_option('wpo_croncode'))
{
require_once( dirname(__FILE__) . '/wpomatic.php' );

$wpomatic->runCron();
} else
$wpomatic->log('Warning! cron.php was called with the wrong password or without one!');

Thanks a lot!

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by remac22

First, thank you very much Keith for opening my eyes to some very interesting new opportunities!

Now, I do have some questions since I just set up my first two autoblogs...

1)Is there any advantage to using GoCodes over my link cloaker of choice, ø Link Cloaking Plugin for WordPress | W-Shadow.com ø ?
I ask because for some reason the titles of my posts aren't getting cloaked, although on the Links sidebar they ARE cloaked.... I feel like wp-o-matic is conflicting with it but not sure.

2) I thought I inserted the code correctly into my cron file, but when I checked this morning I had to click "fetch" in order for my new posts to show up. Am I right that I'm supposed to be editing the file located at wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cron.php ?

If so, here's where I inserted it, let me know if I messed something up:

.....

Thanks a lot!

Hey man, you're welcome! Glad you'll be able to get some use out of it.

For #1, no, you can use any plugin that does this behavior. GoCodes is just the one I like. It's not really about the cloaking for me, it's that I'm not sending out hard-coded backlinks for an affiliate product that may tank. Using some plugin like this allows me to change the target and not lose the benefit of all the links I've already built. I'm not 100% on that plugin because I haven't used it (though I'll check it out), but in theory, it should work fine.

For #2, no. That's your WordPress cron file, not where you should put that. The code you have there needs to go in your unix cron configuration. If you don't know what that is, just deactivate the unix cron. It's pretty hardcore, and even though GoDaddy (my host) allows unix cron interaction, I haven't gotten WP-O-Matic to work with it. I'm not techie enough to troubleshoot it if it doesn't work on the first try.

Instead, I disable the unix cron and let WP-O-Matic do it itself. If you do this, it fires whenever someone visits the site. If you don't like relying on that method (if you have huge traffic, it can bog - I've never personally had an issue), you can bookmark the pseudo-cron url provided and just visit that as often as you'd like to update. That's just a single click, and no need to log in.

I'm currently investigating alternatives with some cron control plugins with WordPress so it can possibly be automated from the one site. However, it's very preliminary research.

Again, thanks for your interest in my process, and congratulations on buckling down and taking action. Good luck with your niche selection and I hope you achieve the success you deserve!

P.S. Remember, even if it doesn't make it big, the automated nature of the thing makes it an easy sell to flip.

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by BlogBrowser

Hey Keith, how do you feel about posting all the blogs into one domain, each at a different folder with their respective Wordpress instance?

Hmm. I don't like that, just because it limits what you can do as far as keeping the theme focused. Plus, if you intend to flip these and sell links, it's better to keep them separate. It'll be much easier to sell if they're isolated, and much easier to get multiple high PR landing pages if they're on separate domains.

The only exception for that would be if you made each blog's homepage a separate subdomain. That would keep the SEO mojo, but would still have the same flip problem.

I don't know if my plugin suggestions would work with Wordpress MU, but they might, and it could be of some benefit, but I don't know. Seems limited to me.

[entrepenerd]

Originally Posted by Keith Kogane

Yeah, you just get the feed URL and plug it into the WP-O-Matic. It'll repost the video embed automatically. I don't do this frequently, as I'm doing this for SEO automation and the videos don't do any. But I've seen it work, YMMV as I don't use it usually.

Has anyone gotten wp-o-matic working with YouTube feeds. I've got a video site that I'd like to test this on, but WP-o-matic is only inserting the thumbnails, not embedding the videos.

[Uncle Dimitry]

I couldn't resist advertising my own service, which already helped hundrends of my customers to get thousands of visitors:

Blogomator

It is better than RSS, use your own content (or PLR). Don't scrap junk content from other people's sites!

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by entrepenerd

Has anyone gotten wp-o-matic working with YouTube feeds. I've got a video site that I'd like to test this on, but WP-o-matic is only inserting the thumbnails, not embedding the videos.

On second thought, I may not be thinking of YouTube feeds, but I swear I've gotten video out of this at some point. I hope I'm not remembering incorrectly. Perhaps you could try the other RSS re-posting plugins I mentioned above?

First I would verify that the information you want is actually IN the RSS feeds you're pulling. If the embed code isn't in the feed source, it won't ever come across.

If I recall, there are plugins or CMSs other than WordPress designed specifically for niche video sites. I'll try to keep an eye out for them during my usual poking around.

Sorry that's not working for you, man. If you figure something out in the meantime, let me know how you did it. Video could make this an even more valuable system.

[entrepenerd]

Originally Posted by Keith Kogane

On second thought, I may not be thinking of YouTube feeds, but I swear I've gotten video out of this at some point. I hope I'm not remembering incorrectly. Perhaps you could try the other RSS re-posting plugins I mentioned above?

First I would verify that the information you want is actually IN the RSS feeds you're pulling. If the embed code isn't in the feed source, it won't ever come across.

If I recall, there are plugins or CMSs other than WordPress designed specifically for niche video sites. I'll try to keep an eye out for them during my usual poking around.

Sorry that's not working for you, man. If you figure something out in the meantime, let me know how you did it. Video could make this an even more valuable system.

Thanks for the reply. I'm sure that it can be made to work with video. I'll do some hacking and post back with what I find. My thought is that I might be able to make a custom post template that wp-o-matic uses to post the embed code. I just wanted to see if there was a quicker solution before I started mucking around in the code

[Noel2010]

This is very interesting to read. I hope the OP or someone will start to offer consultation because I got a major headache from reading this. I was completely lost after the 3rd line!
Anyway, Thanks for the information.

[Guru]

Originally Posted by Keith Kogane

What will happen is that the blog is continually building keyword targeted backlinks to your GoCode URLs, and sending keyword targeted traffic to your affiliate offers. Keep an eye on the affiliate programs, swap out non-performers with something different in the GoCodes setup. (This is another reason we're using GoCodes instead of directly using the affiliate URLs - you don't lose all the previous link-building).

Your blog domain is getting the benefit of all this backlink love so you will start to grow PR over time too. (This is yet another reason we're using GoCodes. All the backlinks you're generating link back to your own domain, giving YOU the PR benefit).

K.K.

Hi K.K,

Thanks for very good info. Can you please explain how blogs will get back links and from where? I don't understand this part.

Will appreciate your answer.

Cheers
G

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by Guru

Hi K.K,

Thanks for very good info. Can you please explain how blogs will get back links and from where? I don't understand this part.

Will appreciate your answer.

Cheers
G

When you submit your RSS feed URL to every place you can find to do so, your content will be spidered and syndicated, and re-published, much the same way we're gathering our own content with this method. Depending on how and where this happens, we'll begin to get trackbacks, backlinks, etc.

Sometimes, they'll even republish your entire piece of content, links intact. Which of course, is ideal.

How many you get, and how it happens will depend on the niche: how much content is generated, how many places republish that content, etc. etc.

If you're lazy (like me), you can stop there. It works okay.

Depends on what you want to do. If you're looking to flip these or sell text links, you can get ahold of lists of nofollow and high-PR places you can comment and try to get backlinks/trackbacks.

It's a little more hands-on, but not really rocket science. Just get a decent guide on link-building for SEO and do it.

Plus, when you see your stats and there are places giving you link love, you can go hands on and try a content trade, link swap with those sites.

That's if you're NOT lazy like I am. Does my method work? Yep. Does it work as good as if you'd actually done some link building too? No. But think of all the time you can spend building links when you don't have to worry about actually posting on the blog at all.

[Guru]

Thanks K.K. for quick reply. I think once I set up a simple blog like this then I think I can understand everything. This is looking so easy/simple and good to make some extra cash.. ( or a lot if one can set up so many blogs )

Thanks again!

G

[antzman1414]

Good, lots of information.

[briank99]

Hi, Keith:

I tried both wp-o-matic and smartrss. I like the look of the results much more with smartrss than I do with wp-o-matic but I have one problem and I was wondering if you do too. When I get the results for smartrss it takes the bbcode such as b or /b and just adds it to the page rather than making the word bold. Do you know a way around this?

BTW, this is one great thread.

Thanks,
Brian

PS. Utopia Cron plugin is easy to work with and makes setting up the cron job for wp-o-matic or smartrss very easy.

[Evita]

Keith,

How may places, on average do you pull your feeds from?

How soon will you see back links, and how soon do you see PR go up?

What are the PR's on some of your blogs?

Thanks,
Evita
PS. hope you will come out with a juicy WSO!!

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by briank99

Hi, Keith:

I tried both wp-o-matic and smartrss. I like the look of the results much more with smartrss than I do with wp-o-matic but I have one problem and I was wondering if you do too. When I get the results for smartrss it takes the bbcode such as b or /b and just adds it to the page rather than making the word bold. Do you know a way around this?

BTW, this is one great thread.

Thanks,
Brian

PS. Utopia Cron plugin is easy to work with and makes setting up the cron job for wp-o-matic or smartrss very easy.

Brian, thanks for the comment. I'll check out Smart as well, but the reason I like WP-O-Matic is because of the built in replacement features. For example, the bbcode you're seeing could be repaired with WPOM's character replace. However, I'm looking for other methods to maybe mitigate that. I should at least have some options soon.

Good to hear about Utopia - it's in my list of stuff to test this weekend. I'll put it on the fast track and see if I feel comfortable recommending it myself. (Not that I don't believe you, but I just like to verify before I repeat something I only read on a forum. )

Originally Posted by Evita

Keith,

How may places, on average do you pull your feeds from?

How soon will you see back links, and how soon do you see PR go up?

What are the PR's on some of your blogs?

Thanks,
Evita
PS. hope you will come out with a juicy WSO!!

1. It depends. Different niches/keywords have different levels of content available. I like to build newsy sites, so I have lots of mini/micro posts from all over. If it's a keyword-based feed, I only use one per category typically. If I'm pulling from only a few niche serving blogs, I'll have a few per category depending on output.

2. It depends, and it depends. I know you want something more solid, but it's variable. Let's assume you do only what I recommend in the first post. Backlinks can happen for a couple of reasons. A. You repost something from a blog that has automatic trackbacks. B. Another site re-publishes your feed content. Now, whether A. happens depends on the configuration of the blogs/sites that create keyword ranked content. Whether B happens depends on how many sites will pick up/re publish your content. Neither of those things are within your control. That's why you build many sites around many topics and keywords to increase the likelihood of A, and why you submit your feeds to as many sites as possible to increase the likelihood of B.

PR is a measure of how relevant the rest of the web finds your content. Generally speaking, this is measured through the number of backlinks coming in, as well as the anchor text of those links. So you see, the rate and amount of PR you get is directly tied to how well you do at getting backlinks. Also be aware that Google does not update their public PR numbers more than once every 3 months or so. Depending on where you are in the cycle, you may see no change, and then suddenly you're PR4! Now even though the REPORTING of that score is delayed by months, your performance within Google's index is constantly updated. ACTUAL PR is different than the simple 0-9 scale Google decides to show us.

3. My sites range from PR0 to PR6. The PR0 ones are just not in productive niches. The irony is, this is probably where the greatest opportunity lies. It's a high demand, low supply niche. But because of that, there's a lack of content to feed my site. If I wanted to bother creating or commissioning content, I could own the whole market. But see above re: lazy.

Also, the one that's PR6 was built on top of a very old domain that I used to keep a *real* blog on. It had PR from before.

I'm actively trying to learn more about PR and nofollow for funneling, because it seems like with all the PR 3 and 4s I have, I should be able to really juice up the weaker blogs just by linking to them. I don't know enough to speak with authority on that, though.

Hope that answers your questions. Please let me know if you have more!

[Ryan_Taylor]

Originally Posted by Keith Kogane

I'm actively trying to learn more about PR and nofollow for funneling, because it seems like with all the PR 3 and 4s I have, I should be able to really juice up the weaker blogs just by linking to them. I don't know enough to speak with authority on that, though.

Hey Keith,

If you are using add-on domains for all your sites, be careful about linking them together. I'm no SEO expert, but I've heard that this can really hurt you - especially if the sites are on the same ip/servers.

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by Ryan_Taylor

Hey Keith,

If you are using add-on domains for all your sites, be careful about linking them together. I'm no SEO expert, but I've heard that this can really hurt you - especially if the sites are on the same ip/servers.

You have any recommended resources on that? Like I said, I'm still trying to learn more, and I'm not making any attempts or recommendations on controlling PR laterally until I get up to speed. I definitely don't want to risk creating a pattern and losing PR.

Thanks for the heads-up though!

[deverell]

Anyone else having trouble getting gocodes working?

It says redirect created successfully, but I just get a 404 if I test them.

I added the htaccess line of code but that didn't make a diff.

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by deverell

Anyone else having trouble getting gocodes working?

It says redirect created successfully, but I just get a 404 if I test them.

I added the htaccess line of code but that didn't make a diff.

Can you give me more detail on exactly what you did? PM me if you don't want to get into it here, but I'm happy to help you figure it out.

[lordgalex]

Thanks for sharing with us...
This is very useful for me.

[briank99]

Keith,

Okay I think I found out that I just used different feeds with WP-o_matic and smartrss. I like the whole article and not just a partial that ends in a half sentence. I need to look for full feeds.

With that said I did find a great place to find feeds - rssmountain. After I do my search if I click the feed button below each result I can see if it is a full or partial feeds. For example, for nintendo wii I found 790 feeds. Now not all are full or good but I only need a few. (BTW, I am not associated with rssmountain in anyway.)

Brian

[deverell]

Thanks Keith. This is a great method to get a lot of blogs going and keeping them full of fresh posts. I was able to get gocode working. Tried another htaccess code and it works good.

[Allegro]

i have a problem with GoCodes too. I went to Manage -> GoCodes, added the redirection key "leveling" (i'm making a world of warcraft site), entered my hoplink as the target, and enabled logging.

now when i go to mysite.com/go/leveling i get a 404

besides that, i added the wp-o-matic cron to hostgators cronjob-function. lets see what happens now, i set to unlimited postings, and i have a package that allows me unlimited bandwith and space... if their servers can handle it?

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by briank99

Keith,

Okay I think I found out that I just used different feeds with WP-o_matic and smartrss. I like the whole article and not just a partial that ends in a half sentence. I need to look for full feeds.

With that said I did find a great place to find feeds - rssmountain. After I do my search if I click the feed button below each result I can see if it is a full or partial feeds. For example, for nintendo wii I found 790 feeds. Now not all are full or good but I only need a few. (BTW, I am not associated with rssmountain in anyway.)

Brian

Thanks for the tip on RSSMountain! I bet people here will find that useful. Also try Content4Reprint if you want longer stuff. I just found them this week while researching more options for my method, and I bet you might be able to get something from them. Just make sure that if you're using long posts, do some synonym replacing with WP-O-Matic as well as link replacing. You want to get some originality in there for SERPS benefit, but personally, I also retain backlinks to the source, because it's only fair if I'm going to piggyback on their work. To each their own. Just keep an eye on those TOCs and Paul Meyers pointed out a page or so back.

Speaking of content remixing, I'm currently working with a couple of RSS aggregators that are external to WordPress. They would basically mash various feed entries into single, longer posts. At the same time, the programs I'm working with also mix up sentences and words and the like, so with some careful configuration, I see a lot of potential. I'll let you guys know if I get it working in a worthwhile way.

Originally Posted by deverell

Thanks Keith. This is a great method to get a lot of blogs going and keeping them full of fresh posts. I was able to get gocode working. Tried another htaccess code and it works good.

Awesome! Glad you got it figured out.

Originally Posted by Allegro

i have a problem with GoCodes too. I went to Manage -> GoCodes, added the redirection key "leveling" (i'm making a world of warcraft site), entered my hoplink as the target, and enabled logging.

now when i go to mysite.com/go/leveling i get a 404

besides that, i added the wp-o-matic cron to hostgators cronjob-function. lets see what happens now, i set to unlimited postings, and i have a package that allows me unlimited bandwith and space... if their servers can handle it?

For GoCodes, be sure you follow the instructions. In addition to uploading the plugin files, activating, and configuring - you ALSO need to add a line of code to your .htaccess file. That's what the previous poster was talking about.

And a word of warning - you CAN create a buttload of posts in an instant with WP-O-Matic but my recommendation is to not go nuts. Just set up the site to grow steadily over time. That'll give you a better chance of long term indexing in the search engines. The other way, you run the risk of being ID'd as a junky site and dumped from the index if you grow too fast.

The idea here is to simulate a real organic blog - but rather than posting every day, you set up a set of automated rules to do it for you. You shouldn't go from 0 to 100 on the first day. Go from 0 to 1 first. Then start another blog. While you're getting that one from 0 to 1, the first one is taking itself from 1 to 2.

Make sense? Let me know if you need more specific help with the goCodes. Thanks for the reply!

[deverell]

Try this Allegro

Place the following code in your .htaccess file, above the line that says “# BEGIN WordPress”:
RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^go/([A-Za-z0-9]+)/?$ /index.php?gocode=$1 [L,R]

This example assumes your blog is located at the root of your domain. If your blog is located at yourdomain.com/blog/, then you should change “/index.php” to “/blog/index.php”.

This got my links working.

[tntrader]

Great thread, and thanks for sharing the information Keith.

For a split second, I thought I stepped back into 2006-2007, when auto-blogs were the craze. I was under the impression (apparently wrongfully so), that this type strategy no longer works. Glad to hear that I am wrong.

Do you have an example you can show us?

I have a handful of domains that I haven't had time to work with yet, and I definitely think this will work well for parking those domains.

Chris

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by tntrader

Great thread, and thanks for sharing the information Keith.

For a split second, I thought I stepped back into 2006-2007, when auto-blogs were the craze. I was under the impression (apparently wrongfully so), that this type strategy no longer works. Glad to hear that I am wrong.

Do you have an example you can show us?

I have a handful of domains that I haven't had time to work with yet, and I definitely think this will work well for parking those domains.

Chris

Yeah, that's actually when I got started doing auto-blogs. I guess it WAS a craze! Funnily enough, it DIDN'T work for me back then, but I was going for the "create as many pages as you can and plaster them with adsense" - needless to say, that method IS burned. I failed at it, and never did get it to work in any kind of niche (unless $20 for 6 months of work is a success). :P

The techniques I developed since then are less about blog spamming and RSS bombardment, and more about making a site that's admittedly mediocre, but simulates a real blog run by a human. I mean, I AM a human, but rather than posting day bay day, I consider it like I'm setting "rules" that allow the blog to do what I would do anyway. I just check in occasionally to make sure the instructions were specific enough so the site stays on track.

I focused less on AdSense and placing adblocks for maximum exposure. Instead, I build the sites to have unobtrusive ads, but plenty of congruent affiliate offers and products. I try to place my sites in niches where there is little competition from others like myself, and position myself as a nexus of information for that niche. Sort of like a one stop shop for all the "buzz" on that topic.

As for sharing my sites, I'm not currently in any niche where I'd readily invite competition. Obviously, looking at my technique, you can see how if I showed you my blogs, you'd know all the secrets I had to spend a lot of research and tweaking to discover - my keywords, my backlink sources, my markets, etc. You automatically discover these things on your own while using the method and trying different stuff - I'm not holding back anything of the method, I'm just keeping a few known successful values for the variables to myself.

Hope no one minds.

That being said, were I to sell this method as a product, I'd most likely create a sample site from scratch in order to demonstrate more specifically what it is I mean. I'm toying with the idea of following it all the way through and selling it on SitePoint, too, just to show the full range of possibility. Anyway, we'll see. I don't want anyone to think I'm promoting anything that doesn't even exist yet. :P

Until then though, I'll have to get by with using descriptions, as I don't have anything I'm willing to share at this point. Sorry about that.

That being said, if they're dead domains you aren't doing anything with, it's not like you have a high expectation of profit to meet. Give it a try. It'll take an hour or so to set up if you know your way around wordpress and have a general idea of your niche. What would it hurt? You're not doing anything on those sites anyway, so it could only help.

All my experience says it'll perform better than *nothing*.

[Allegro]

thx deverell, funny that i havent read that...

but i ran into another problem. i have added the cron job to hostgator, and it runs every hour, but it doesnt fetch anything? i then tried to use the url-command myself, but it only showed a blank site and when i checked the log after, i saw that nothing happened... do i have to add something to the htaccess too? i checked the readme and it said nothing about editing anything...

and thanks for the tip, i now populated my blog with 60 postings and set it now to one posting per feed per fetch... i also think that the option that shows the date when it was originally posted should be enabled, else it would show that 5 postings are made at the exact same time!

edit: hm now thats weird, it shows me that the cron job was processed, but it didnt check the feeds... it only shows the feeds checked after i fetched manually, and only added postings after that.

i guess i will give it this day time and check in the evening if anything happened, if not i will look into that next night

however, now that gocodes work, im going to add my 200+ keywords to the replace-list

Edit 2: Now i am really confused, although i added the cronjob to run every hour, the wp-o-matic dashboard tells me
Next campaigns to process

1. 6h 58m 26s

so i can only fetch posts automatically every 8 hours? that sucks, especially in the WoW niche where there are around 10 postings per day... and i fetch only 2 per site...

[Chris Grable]

Keith,

Is there any way you could point us to a site where you have this implemented? I'm having trouble wrapping my arms around the concept.... I guess maybe I just need to see iut.

[JJOrana]

Anybody having problem with relink to: field?

I'm having problem to run that part.

[mudmat]

Originally Posted by briank99

Keith,

Okay I think I found out that I just used different feeds with WP-o_matic and smartrss. I like the whole article and not just a partial that ends in a half sentence. I need to look for full feeds.

With that said I did find a great place to find feeds - rssmountain. After I do my search if I click the feed button below each result I can see if it is a full or partial feeds. For example, for nintendo wii I found 790 feeds. Now not all are full or good but I only need a few. (BTW, I am not associated with rssmountain in anyway.)

Brian

Hi,

Thanks for the info! Most of the articles that I pull in from feed are half articles. I will try using rssmountain.

Thanks!

[mudmat]

Hi guys,

How do I automated the fetching of post from the feeds?

I don't think I saw the option to automate the fetching of post from the feeds..

Another question: Is there any software that enables you to submit your rss feed at one go? Meaning that you do not have to manually submit your rss feed to the different rss sites.

[Julian Lockhart]

Originally Posted by Keith Kogane

Hey man, you're welcome! Glad you'll be able to get some use out of it.

For #2, no. That's your WordPress cron file, not where you should put that. The code you have there needs to go in your unix cron configuration. If you don't know what that is, just deactivate the unix cron. It's pretty hardcore, and even though GoDaddy (my host) allows unix cron interaction, I haven't gotten WP-O-Matic to work with it. I'm not techie enough to troubleshoot it if it doesn't work on the first try.

Instead, I disable the unix cron and let WP-O-Matic do it itself. If you do this, it fires whenever someone visits the site. If you don't like relying on that method (if you have huge traffic, it can bog - I've never personally had an issue), you can bookmark the pseudo-cron url provided and just visit that as often as you'd like to update. That's just a single click, and no need to log in.

I'm currently investigating alternatives with some cron control plugins with WordPress so it can possibly be automated from the one site. However, it's very preliminary research.

Keith - Good info.

Great News! I figured out the problem with wp-o-matic cron jobs not working at GoDaddy.

In the WP-o-Matic options section it shows the UNIX command as:

*/20 * * * * /usr/bin/curl hxxp://wtw.yoursite.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cron.php?code=YOURKEY

When you enter that in GoDaddy cron it doesn't not work

This works:

/usr/bin/curl hxxp://wtw.yoursite.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cron.php?code=YOURKEY

(hxxp=http and wtw=www)

Why?

Because */20 * * * * means execute said command every 20 minutes and the Godaddy cron tool handles timing separate from the command to be executed.

I figured this out by doing some Google searches on cron jobs. Took a little tinkering. . . I sure love to figure things out - sometimes to my detriment. That being said, I hope that it will forward all of our efforts.
Looking forward to WSO.

Julian

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by Allegro

i have added the cron job to hostgator, and it runs every hour, but it doesnt fetch anything? i then tried to use the url-command myself, but it only showed a blank site and when i checked the log after, i saw that nothing happened... do i have to add something to the htaccess too? i checked the readme and it said nothing about editing anything...

and thanks for the tip, i now populated my blog with 60 postings and set it now to one posting per feed per fetch... i also think that the option that shows the date when it was originally posted should be enabled, else it would show that 5 postings are made at the exact same time!

edit: hm now thats weird, it shows me that the cron job was processed, but it didnt check the feeds... it only shows the feeds checked after i fetched manually, and only added postings after that.

i guess i will give it this day time and check in the evening if anything happened, if not i will look into that next night

however, now that gocodes work, im going to add my 200+ keywords to the replace-list

Edit 2: Now i am really confused, although i added the cronjob to run every hour, the wp-o-matic dashboard tells me
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1. 6h 58m 26s

so i can only fetch posts automatically every 8 hours? that sucks, especially in the WoW niche where there are around 10 postings per day... and i fetch only 2 per site...

Hey - sorry you're having such trouble with the cron stuff. I wish I could give you better advice, but I don't currently use hostgator, so I'm unfamiliar with their setup. If you can't figure it out, try the utopia cron plugin. I haven't gotten to testing it myself, but others here have said it was working for them. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Chris Grable

Keith,

Is there any way you could point us to a site where you have this implemented? I'm having trouble wrapping my arms around the concept.... I guess maybe I just need to see iut.

Like I mentioned earlier, I don't have a demo site set up. I'm not anxious to share my live sites right now, because they ARE susceptible to reverse engineering, and since this is a game of statistics, I'm not looking to invite competition. Mind, you the average visitor won't really know the scoop, but since I told you all what to look for, anyone looking at my sites after reading this will instantly be able to clone my site, and I guarantee someone would do that instead of finding their own.

However, enough people are into seeing this kind of thing that I will probably create a demo site as part of a more in-depth report or possibly video series.

Originally Posted by JJOrana

Anybody having problem with relink to: field?

I'm having problem to run that part.

Can you be more specific? I'd love to help you get it sorted out.

Originally Posted by mudmat

Hi guys,

How do I automated the fetching of post from the feeds?

I don't think I saw the option to automate the fetching of post from the feeds..

Another question: Is there any software that enables you to submit your rss feed at one go? Meaning that you do not have to manually submit your rss feed to the different rss sites.

1. You do this when configuring WP-O-Matic. It's in the tab options when configuring the campaign (I'm pretty sure, I'm not looking at it right this second, but it's part of WPOM). If you're in the dark about using cron, try the utopia cron plugin I mentioned earlier. I can't speak on it personally, but I've heard good things and will be trying it myself soon.

Originally Posted by Julian Lockhart

Keith - Good info.

Great News! I figured out the problem with wp-o-matic cron jobs not working at GoDaddy.

*snip*

I figured this out by doing some Google searches on cron jobs. Took a little tinkering. . . I sure love to figure things out - sometimes to my detriment. That being said, I hope that it will forward all of our efforts.
Looking forward to WSO.

Julian

Julian, you are my hero! I spent a week or so trying to get this set up, but I'm just not techie enough to persevere when it comes to messing with that stuff. Awesome to know you got this figured out. I'm still going to test Utopia Cron as it seems like a good thing to have for others (Cron's kind of hard to explain) but I'll def. try this out on a couple of sites today!

Thanks a bunch!

[Evita]

Once we have pulled a feed with WOP, will it pull the same feed again?

Just found a ton of feeds on rssmountain (Thanks Brian!) I added a bunch to be fetched...

How do I schedule this? If I do 10 at a time and I have 30 feeds? Then the feeds get updated?? They get fetched again?? Or?

I'm a bit confused about how the feeds get fetched... how the whole thing gets organized... how you not end up with the same feed 15 times over.

Evita

[tiger325]

Thank you for sharing with all of us Keith

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by Evita

Once we have pulled a feed with WOP, will it pull the same feed again?

Just found a ton of feeds on rssmountain (Thanks Brian!) I added a bunch to be fetched...

How do I schedule this? If I do 10 at a time and I have 30 feeds? Then the feeds get updated?? They get fetched again?? Or?

I'm a bit confused about how the feeds get fetched... how the whole thing gets organized... how you not end up with the same feed 15 times over.

Evita

It'll only pull new entries from the feeds you have set up each time it updates. To fetch the feeds, you can either set up a unix cron job, or you can turn off unix cron and see if it'll update itself (mine work this way). Alternately, you can try using Utopia Cron plugin, though I haven't tried that myself.

Think of feeds as a subscription, and you set a value (X) in WPOM. Each time you fetch it you will get the last X new entries posted to your blog. If there aren't X new entries, you'll only get the new ones. If there are MORE than X, you'll get only X. Don't mean to start talking in algebra. Hope that makes sense.

[Anees]

Hi Keith, thanks for such a nice post! I have one question if you can help me! I have a wordpress blog hosting on wordpress.com, for example, xyz.wordpress.com. Could you please tell me how can I install those two plugins on that? I have downloaded both but it says - "extract wpomatic.zip in the /wp-content/plugins/ directory" but I do not have any domain? Do I need to buy domain to get these two plugins installed. Thank you for your reply.

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by Anees

Hi Keith, thanks for such a nice post! I have one question if you can help me! I have a wordpress blog hosting on wordpress.com, for example, xyz.wordpress.com. Could you please tell me how can I install those two plugins on that? I have downloaded both but it says - "extract wpomatic.zip in the /wp-content/plugins/ directory" but I do not have any domain? Do I need to buy domain to get these two plugins installed. Thank you for your reply.

Hi Anees.

Unfortunately, you're not going to be able to install plugins on a blog hosted by wordpress.com. Plugin functionality is only usable on your own installation of Wordpress on your own hosting account/domain.

If you're doing marketing activities, it's better to own your own site anyway, really.

Hope that's not too much of a disappointment, but hopefully you'll be able to move on without too much trouble if that's what you decide to do.

[new guy]

Keith, I just found this post tonight and have now read the whole thing. In the meantime, I set up a new domain and just installed Wordpress to get started. I have a question about your affiliate links. On a single blog, do you only link out to one affiliate product? And do you do so on every instance of a certain keyword? This part is a bit gray to me.