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Old 11-15-2008, 01:59 AM   #1
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This is my current business blueprint. This is something I've built up over time, and I actually really hesitate to give it away because it works so well. I've been doing this for about a year now with fair success. It really works for me, because you just set up the site once and then you hardly ever have to touch it again. It just runs itself and gets better and better over time.

Check this out and tell me what you all think:

Wordpress is the platform that everything is based on.

WP-O-Matic Plugin - this is a plugin that lets you take RSS feeds and turn them into posts automatically. More importantly, it lets you replace keywords from a list, and link them to whatever you want. This is the key to the whole game.

GoCodes Plugin - this is a plugin that lets you make neat redirects from your domain. We're using this to cloak our affiliate links.

Pick a niche, buy a domain, get WordPress and plugins set up.
Need affiliate products/links
Need keywords

Load GoCodes with affiliate links

get keyword-based RSS feeds for WP-O-Matic
- (I have a huge list of these)
- load up keywords and GoCodes URLs
- this makes all your keywords into links to your offers

submit blog RSS feed to every place possible
- (I have a huge list of these, too)
- this spreads the links to your offers all over the web

get largest ping list possible
- (I have a huge list of these, too)
- this helps to get all your content indexed, and your links crawled

Turn everything on and move on to the next blog.

What will happen is that the blog is continually building keyword targeted backlinks to your GoCode URLs, and sending keyword targeted traffic to your affiliate offers. Keep an eye on the affiliate programs, swap out non-performers with something different in the GoCodes setup. (This is another reason we're using GoCodes instead of directly using the affiliate URLs - you don't lose all the previous link-building).

Your blog domain is getting the benefit of all this backlink love so you will start to grow PR over time too. (This is yet another reason we're using GoCodes. All the backlinks you're generating link back to your own domain, giving YOU the PR benefit).

Do this over and over with new blogs in as many niches as you can manage. You'll start out making very little, but you'll be amazed at how much this kind of thing will grow over time.

Other ways I am using to make money:
AdSense and other PPC networks
Sell redirection of the GoCode links
Sell advertising space
Once the blogs get PR, sell text links
- you can get a sponsor donate plugin to make this automatic
Sell the blogs outright
Put up a squeeze on the homepage and build a niche list
- make backend offers to your list/sell ad space in your emails
Get a feed control plugin and further monetize feeds
- affiliate links/ad space sales
Replace affiliate products with your own products
-Use something like RAP to build your own affiliate team

The possibilities are endless. I'm only just scratching the surface myself.

I hope my brief description here is enough for some of you who want to try it can get all the info you need. If not, feel free to ask any questions. I'll answer as best as I can.

Hope you like it!
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Thank you for sharing!

Would you mind elaborating a bit more about ..

.. "Sell redirection of the GoCode links"

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Would you mind giving a hint in what I think this is the most important part of this method: "get keyword-based RSS feeds for WP-O-Matic", where can we find them?


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The post would have been helpful and of value if you cleared this up:

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get keyword-based RSS feeds for WP-O-Matic
- (I have a huge list of these)
- load up keywords and GoCodes URLs
- this makes all your keywords into links to your offers

submit blog RSS feed to every place possible
- (I have a huge list of these, too)
- this spreads the links to your offers all over the web

get largest ping list possible
- (I have a huge list of these, too)
- this helps to get all your content indexed, and your links crawled
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I think the post is helpful and of value. It would be "more" helpful and of value with "more" details. Helpful in any event.

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Thank you for sharing!

Would you mind elaborating a bit more about ..

.. "Sell redirection of the GoCode links"

To Your Success,

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Yes. When I initially set up the blog, my GoCodes all redirect to my own affiliate URLs. If one of my GoCode URLs is getting a lot of traffic, but say the affiliate URL I'm redirecting to isn't converting, then I have a few choices. I can swap it for another affiliate link... or, what I was suggesting in what you quoted is that you can approach a merchant in your niche and "rent" them your GoCode. So you would place their site as the re-direct instead of your own affiliate link. I just bill them with PayPal recurring. As long as they pay, I keep sending them the traffic. Make more sense now?

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There's this thing called a search engine? LOL! They aren't hard to find. Google News for example. Anywhere you can specify a search with your keywords, and then get a feed of those results. Use your imagination - any news site, any social bookmarking site, any blog search site, etc.
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This is kind of obnoxious. I don't really think the post isn't of value without those.

I have a spreadsheet full of these sites that I spent a lot of time collecting. I just wanted to share my outline in case someone found it useful. I don't have to share everything, do I? Do you want to know my niches and sites too? LOL! (Hint: I'm not telling you those, either.) The method is still sound, and like I said above to a previous poster, just actually DO something yourself and search for em. They aren't hard to find. In fact, you can probably find lists of them other people have already made. In the time it took you to post that, you could have found a ton with a Google search.

Use a little brains and spend a little effort.

Or, you can let the fact that I didn't do all the work for you and hold your hand be an excuse for your not succeeding. It doesn't matter to me!
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Keith,

This is really helpful. Could I pay you (or someone else) to set something like this up for me? Or to guide me step-by-step through the process?

Setting up WordPress and installing plugins etc isn't an issue. It's turning it into an automated system.

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This is really helpful. Could I pay you (or someone else) to set something like this up for me? Or to guide me step-by-step through the process?

Setting up WordPress and installing plugins etc isn't an issue. It's turning it into an automated system.

Thanks for this!
Absolutely. PM me and we can work something out!
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Yes. When I initially set up the blog, my GoCodes all redirect to my own affiliate URLs. If one of my GoCode URLs is getting a lot of traffic, but say the affiliate URL I'm redirecting to isn't converting, then I have a few choices. I can swap it for another affiliate link... or, what I was suggesting in what you quoted is that you can approach a merchant in your niche and "rent" them your GoCode. So you would place their site as the re-direct instead of your own affiliate link. I just bill them with PayPal recurring. As long as they pay, I keep sending them the traffic. Make more sense now?
That is what I thought. I just wanted to be clear because it is another method to monetize the site. More importantly to me, the method converts what would I call "Non-Monetized Page Space" to "Monetized Page Space".. Thats Marketing! The merchant has two incentives; the merchant receives traffic from your site(s) and the merchant's site gains a backlink from your site.

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Absolutely. PM me and we can work something out!
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Thanks for sharing Keith! Your post has sparked an idea - I'll be using the core of your method to try to further boost the income of one of my already established sites.

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Thanks for sharing Keith! Your post has sparked an idea - I'll be using the core of your method to try to further boost the income of one of my already established sites.

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Not sure what you're getting at Jeffery. Do you think he intended people to PM him?

His idea is literally a 'site saver' for me, as I was about to ditch a site I couldn't be bothered with. He's helping me to automate it so it can run and potentially be a money earner for me, which I'm very glad of.

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Not sure what you're getting at Jeffery. Do you think he intended people to PM him?

His idea is literally a 'site saver' for me, as I was about to ditch a site I couldn't be bothered with. He's helping me to automate it so it can run and potentially be a money earner for me, which I'm very glad of.

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Hi tomah,

I was getting at "The man is helpful." You asked for help and he responded. It was a good thing.

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Not sure what you're getting at Jeffery. Do you think he intended people to PM him?

His idea is literally a 'site saver' for me, as I was about to ditch a site I couldn't be bothered with. He's helping me to automate it so it can run and potentially be a money earner for me, which I'm very glad of.

Regards.
It wasn't my intention to get PMs - after all, PMs are hardly an awesome way to communicate through this forum.

For me the point is more - Alex Sol kind of takes a **** on my method and whines about what I did not include and how it was not valuable. I tell him to take a hike.

Tomah offers to compensate me for my help and is genuinely interested in the method. Of course I'm happy to help him, because he's not being a jerk.

No direct offense to you, Alex, but your negative/scarcity mindset is probably holding you back in other aspects of your life and business. I've seen it from you not just in this thread, but in others. Just some friendly advice from one marketer to another. Instead of looking at what's missing, look at what's there and actually do something with it.

Anyway, don't mean to derail. Glad you guys that like my stuff said so.
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Well I sure thank you for sharing the information you shared Keith. It's certainly worth a little probing.

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Keith,

this is very solid and good advice. My question: Did you test several "auto blogger" plugins, beyond wp-o-matic? I am currently building blogs with Caffeinated Content....but i might try out the plugins/methods you mentioned.

Could you maybe elaborate on "get keyword based RSS feeds" ?

I actually do have a problem finding good feeds related to a niche/subject....many of the feeds listed in search engines are defunct/expired. I have a hard time finding dependable RSS feeds.

(Or are you talking about feeds similar to yahoo news etc. where you can specify a KW for the feed? Sorry, not familair with wp-o-matic plugin)

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Hm. The responses to this post is an interesting study
of the human psychology!

Thanks Keith. A most interesting post. It is most generous of you to share and help your fellow warriors.

I know nothing about he plugins you mentioned so now need to get educated. This model sounds VERY interesting!

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This is kind of obnoxious. I don't really think the post isn't of value without those.

I have a spreadsheet full of these sites that I spent a lot of time collecting. I just wanted to share my outline in case someone found it useful. I don't have to share everything, do I? Do you want to know my niches and sites too? LOL! (Hint: I'm not telling you those, either.) The method is still sound, and like I said above to a previous poster, just actually DO something yourself and search for em. They aren't hard to find. In fact, you can probably find lists of them other people have already made. In the time it took you to post that, you could have found a ton with a Google search.

Use a little brains and spend a little effort.

Or, you can let the fact that I didn't do all the work for you and hold your hand be an excuse for your not succeeding. It doesn't matter to me!
Don't get me wrong, it is a good method that you outlined and a lot of us warriors know about such things... But telling people "You need a list of .... and by the way I have a list of it" is an OBVIOUS way to get people sending you pm's so you could sell some kind of list or service to them

I guess I just don't like posts where people advertise/promote some kind of method but leave out VERY important details. I really don't care what niches you're in and I am sure you would never tell - no one is asking you to.

However, I think when you tell people to look for ... at least give one example for those that have no idea what you're talking about. For instance, when someone says: Submit your articles to an ezine directory, such as EzineArticles.com - well, when I see the ezinearticles.com at least I have an idea of what to look for.

I guess I just don't really appreciate when people post up a method of some sort but refuse to help in any kind of way. I don't think it would kill you to give at least 1 URL from each of your lists to make it easier for us to understand what exactly we are looking for but once again, I understand that your intentions were to get people pm'ing you so you could sell them stuff - it's your right to do so.


p.s. TO give you an example, http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/27983-1-300-2-hours-you-can-do-too.html

As you can see I reveal every detail, every step. Because I think if you want to share a method with someone - well you share the whole thing.
I guess that's just my idea of sharing and helping others.

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this is very solid and good advice. My question: Did you test several "auto blogger" plugins, beyond wp-o-matic? I am currently building blogs with Caffeinated Content....but i might try out the plugins/methods you mentioned.

Could you maybe elaborate on "get keyword based RSS feeds" ?

I actually do have a problem finding good feeds related to a niche/subject....many of the feeds listed in search engines are defunct/expired. I have a hard time finding dependable RSS feeds.

(Or are you talking about feeds similar to yahoo news etc. where you can specify a KW for the feed? Sorry, not familair with wp-o-matic plugin)
I only tried a couple of others before I found WP-O-Matic. Actually when I came across it, it didn't work for me, but I happened to find it just before one of the version upgrades that switched it to use WordPress's built-in Cron rather than a server-based Cron. It just worked for what I wanted it to do, so I actually quit messing with other ones. I'm not trying to make great websites with meaty original content, rather just little niche news/aggregator sites. I like WP-O-Matic because it's free, easy to use, and just works with minimal effort on my part.

I've experimented with doing other stuff, like using RSS Magician to consolidate feeds and remix them for uniqueness before feeding it into WP-O-Matic, but I found that to be unnecessary for getting the method to work.

The keyword based feeds are as you say, any feed where I can specify keywords and get feeds based on that. So any news site, any social bookmarking site, any blog aggregator site. In fact, a lot of the sites you find that you can submit your own RSS feed will also offer keyword based feeds, too.

For my model, it's not about providing lengthy content. It's about being the single stop for all things going on in a particular niche. I'm trying to make little authority sites, but the key is just getting it "good enough" and then focus on getting money from it. The site will grow on its own, traffic and backlinks will grow on their own.

I took it really slow at first when making these, but by the time I got to my 5th or 6th one, the first one had hit that "snowball rolling down a mountain" point, where it just started growing and making more and more without me really doing anything at all.
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uhm...i understand how gocodes works, it uses an .htacces redirect, so eg. i can specifiy go/keyword as gocode and it will be rewritten to my aff link.

Where i am stumped is HOW on earth the "mysite/go/keyword" entries get into the feed content? Where do i edit this ?

Say...there is a feed blah blah weight loss....no i want to make a gocode for the weightloss keyword. I am not stupid...but the gocode site and its so called "FAQ" didnt help me. I need to know how to get my aff links IN the feeds/content on the blog. Otherwise i have everything running as you explained.

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nm..found the rewrite setting in wpomatic.

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I think Keith's post is actually very useful for anybody
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There is enough free information in his post to start working
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well this post certainly nicely belongs with the current "clog farming" craze, i think its interesting since i could try out new plugins. Its solid and "simple".

I am still amazed how i can actually create a good looking WP blog about WHATEVER in 3 minutes or less...in addition this blog is auto-updating AND has my affiliate links in it. The more i work with WP and the plugins, the more i like it. There is really not more to do than getting a domain, maybe also get a auto-social-bookmarking plugin..and you're good to go.

Now i am off searching a good niche

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Don't get me wrong, it is a good method that you outlined and a lot of us warriors know about such things... But telling people "You need a list of .... and by the way I have a list of it" is an OBVIOUS way to get people sending you pm's so you could sell some kind of list or service to them
That really wasn't my intent - I guess I give people here more credit to be able to figure stuff out on their own. I did, and I'm hardly smart! So whether it's "obvious" or not, it's not intentional. But even so - everything I do online is about getting paid. If you want to get my lists of ping sites, rss sites and keyword feed sites - you can pay me for them. If you want to take the time, you can find your own for free. If you want to work hard and do it yourself, you have my full method here. If you want to be lazy and just copy me, why WOULDN'T I charge for that? From what I can tell, that's the whole info-product business model. There's nothing, NOTHING that you can't find out for yourself on the internet if you know where and how to look. Any time anyone sells information, it's basically trading the customer's lack of research skills/laziness for money.

So I guess my point is, I wasn't being commercial here, but even if I was, what's wrong with that, exactly? We're all marketers here.

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I guess I just don't like posts where people advertise/promote some kind of method but leave out VERY important details. I really don't care what niches you're in and I am sure you would never tell - no one is asking you to.
Take 5 minutes right now. Go to google and search for these phrases, (which are the EXACT phrases I've used here). Ready? "Keyword based rss feeds", "submit your rss feed", and "ping list". Tell me what you find, and tell me if you still have something to complain about. I think you'll see you've wasted your breath just to stand on a soapbox and get attention instead of just doing a little "work" to get your own answers.

Hmm. Maybe you're doing that so people will think you're their great protector, or the dissenting voice of reason and maybe build up your own reputation here. That's fine too. But if you're going to do that, it's not really fair of you to paint me as some rogue capitalist.

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However, I think when you tell people to look for ... at least give one example for those that have no idea what you're talking about. For instance, when someone says: Submit your articles to an ezine directory, such as EzineArticles.com - well, when I see the ezinearticles.com at least I have an idea of what to look for.
I've answered any question anyone asked, and gave general, if not specific examples.

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I guess I just don't really appreciate when people post up a method of some sort but refuse to help in any kind of way. I don't think it would kill you to give at least 1 URL from each of your lists to make it easier for us to understand what exactly we are looking for but once again, I understand that your intentions were to get people pm'ing you so you could sell them stuff - it's your right to do so.
Yes, you're right. I've refused to help in any way. That's ridiculous. What thread are you reading? You contradict yourself in the very same paragraph, by listing just ONE of the ways I've offered to help someone. Not to mention all the questions I've already answered here.

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p.s. TO give you an example, http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/27983-1-300-2-hours-you-can-do-too.html

As you can see I reveal every detail, every step. Because I think if you want to share a method with someone - well you share the whole thing.
I guess that's just my idea of sharing and helping others.
Congratulations and well done. Good for you.

P.S. I think it's hilarious how you're trying to paint me as "Them" in some imagined "Us vs. Them" scenario with yourself as some kind of white knight bastion of "the way things ought to be." I hope it works out for you. There's lots of money to be made from herds of people who need every little detail spelled out. The fact is, those kinds of people will seldom do anything with any of the information they buy. They are collectors. They just want it to be complete. If I were selling something, I'd include all of that. I'd harp on it in the sales copy, too. "You don't have to do anything! I've done it all for you!" But I'm not, and I'm more focused on the people who want a method to try, not some system to buy.

So everyone reading this, Alex would do it differently, so if you want your free methods fully spelled out and completely detailed, please go to Alex, because he does it correctly! I'm just evil and trying to sell you something (I'm not, but GOD FORBID a marketer try to sell something! The NERVE!).

I'm sorry everyone, that I expected people to be able to use the internet at its base level and search something for themselves. I thought that skill would be a precursor to having found the WF in the first place. Or at the very least, before one would attempt to use the internet to make money.

I could be wrong. What do *you* think?
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Hey, Keith.

Thanks for clearing this up. I wanted to know what to search for - and you just gave me that answered. I guess next time i'll just ask you instead of beating around the bush.

Sorry for the misunderstanding,

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uhm...i understand how gocodes works, it uses an .htacces redirect, so eg. i can specifiy go/keyword as gocode and it will be rewritten to my aff link.

Where i am stumped is HOW on earth the "mysite/go/keyword" entries get into the feed content? Where do i edit this ?

Say...there is a feed blah blah weight loss....no i want to make a gocode for the weightloss keyword. I am not stupid...but the gocode site and its so called "FAQ" didnt help me. I need to know how to get my aff links IN the feeds/content on the blog. Otherwise i have everything running as you explained.
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Yep, you got it! See? That's what I'm talking about. Kudos to you, my friend. I knew there were some smarties here. Turns out it's so easy you didn't even need my help. All it took to find that out was to actually TRY IT! I feel like a lot of people get crippled by the "Fallacy of Information" (look it up if you don't know what that is). Instead, just roll up your sleeves and get to it. It's easy as pie!

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well this post certainly nicely belongs with the current "clog farming" craze, i think its interesting since i could try out new plugins. Its solid and "simple".

I am still amazed how i can actually create a good looking WP blog about WHATEVER in 3 minutes or less...in addition this blog is auto-updating AND has my affiliate links in it. The more i work with WP and the plugins, the more i like it. There is really not more to do than getting a domain, maybe also get a auto-social-bookmarking plugin..and you're good to go.

Now i am off searching a good niche
Yep. Kick Ass. I actually use Auto Social Poster myself, but it's not free, so I didn't mention it here. Keep an eye out for new WP plugins all the time. There's constantly stuff coming out that will help do more. For example, there are several plugins that will automatically create tags for your posts. Then there are plugins that will automatically SEO your pages based on your tags, for a 1-2 automated combo. If you're into the SEO thing, you can even get plugins to really finely control your nofollows so you can control that PR and maximize it. The higher the PR, the more you can charge for text link ads. You can also get plugins that will auto-link tags and category names as they appear in your copy, for deep linking into your site.

All kinds of stuff can be done with this - big high five to Georg for showing that all there is to it is to DO IT.
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Check out this thread: Warriors! - I Am Going To Make $100+ In 24 Hours! - Watch Over My Shoulder!

Blogs built using my method are perfect for this kind of flip. I haven't used his exact method, but there are many more selling points for a potential buyer. It's auto-posting, auto-promoting. You don't have to do anything but add in your own affiliate links/ad codes.

Someone go do this and make some money!
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Is your focus on affiliate products on these blogs, or adsense also?

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Is your focus on affiliate products on these blogs, or adsense also?

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I don't really focus on anything in particular. I try to monetize everything I can. Mainly I set up the affiliate products AND I throw AdSense up there at the beginning. Once I set it up, I don't really do much else unless nothing's working at all, or if it's working particularly well. If it's A, I change out my affiliate products and try something else. If it's B, I look to expand monetization and do more ad sales, include more linking opportunities, etc.

But even if it doesn't work as far as moving product or getting ad clicks, it will still automatically get page rank. The worst performing blog I ever did got to be a PR4 after my spending an hour setting it up, and then not touching it for 3 months. I can sell PR4 backlinks all day long for at least $50 a month. Each. I try to limit paid backlinks (I just stick them in the built in link-list in Wordpress) to less than 10 per blog. I figure you can do the math there.

Now, there's also a plugin I'm working with that is a donation mechanism. I forget what it's called, but it allows a visitor to make a PayPal Payment and fill out a sponsor form, which then puts their details on the site automatically. What I want to see is if I can get it to work with a PayPal subscription, so I can just send prospective buyers directly to the blog for self-serve. Right now, I have to do that part of the business manually.

Try it standard with adsense (or your favorite ad publishing network) and a handful of affiliate products. It doens't hurt all all to do both. As to what works better, it depends on the niche and the products, and a whole lot of chance. Remember, I really don't know where all this stuff is ending up. I just submit it to a ton of places and see what happens.

You'll end up creating trackbacks on other blogs, your content will get syndicated on other aggregators, once you start getting attention, people will link to you on your own, etc. etc.

Hope that helps!
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Dude, I'm not sure what's going on with that link in your sig, but I clicked on it and then something started downloading, it said it was a PDF, then AVG alerted me to a trojan.

Not sure what's going on there, not cool!
Lesley,

Thanks for the heads up. There should be *nothing* to download from that page. I can't figure it out yet, but this may explain why I've made zero sales over the past week or so.
I'm still digging, but there are signs that my site's been hacked. I'm running AVAST, which doesn't give me the same alert you got, so I'm installing AVG now.

What I can't figure out is WHY someone would hack me just to put a trojan on my site.

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Here is a list of feeds to use with WP-O-Matic

api.moreover.com/RPC2
api.my.yahoo.co.jp/RPC2
api.my.yahoo.com/RPC2
audiorpc.weblogs.com/RPC2
blog.goo.ne.jp/XMLRPC
blogpeople.net/ping
blogsearch.google.ae/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.at/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.be/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.bg/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.ca/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.ch/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.cl/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.cr/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.hu/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.id/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.il/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.in/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.it/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.jp/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.ma/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.nz/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.th/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.uk/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.ve/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.co.za/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.ar/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.au/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.br/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.co/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.do/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.mx/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.my/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.pe/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.sa/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.sg/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.tr/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.tw/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.ua/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.uy/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com.vn/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.com/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.de/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.es/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.fi/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.fr/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.gr/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.hr/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.ie/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.in/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.it/ping/RPC2
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blogsearch.google.lt/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.nl/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.pl/ping/RPC2
blogsearch.google.pt/ping/RPC2
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hamo-search.com/ping.php
holycowdude.com/rpc/ping/
newsblog.jungleboots.org/ping.php
ping.blogoon.net/
ping.blogs.yandex.ru/RPC2
ping.fc2.com/
ping.feedburner.com/
ping.kutsulog.net/
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ping.namaan.net/rpc
ping.snap.com/ping/RPC2
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I'm still digging, but there are signs that my site's been hacked. I'm running AVAST, which doesn't give me the same alert you got, so I'm installing AVG now.

What I can't figure out is WHY someone would hack me just to put a trojan on my site.
To expand their network, obviously. Got nothing to do with you personally.

Good chance you've got an old WP or phpBB installation on that site or server. If so, update it, and change the admin passwords.

Download the whole site via FTP and look at the bottom of the pages. It's likely the code involved is there.


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Hello,

Keith, I saw your link in my thread. I will say something here about your method and make a comment that may help some. First off, as I mention in my ebook, traffic and income will determine your blog's value. As such, if you get these blogs to over $100/month income, you will do well, very well. I show you how to add services and extras to pump up the profits as well.

Now on to a couple of helpful points. First off, regarding those massive ping lists. You have to be VERY careful about those. If you look closely, you'll see that several services listed above actually ping the same sites. As a result, every time you ping, you'll be pinging 3-4-5 or more times with the same information. This can eventually cause your blog to be blacklisted on several ping urls. I use a small but not redundant list. Second, please avoid massively posting using automated tools. Have a little patience. Set the posting frequency to something a motivated human can achieve. If you fly under the radar, you'll do much better in the long term.

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I only tried a couple of others before I found WP-O-Matic. Actually when I came across it, it didn't work for me, but I happened to find it just before one of the version upgrades that switched it to use WordPress's built-in Cron rather than a server-based Cron. It just worked for what I wanted it to do, so I actually quit messing with other ones. I'm not trying to make great websites with meaty original content, rather just little niche news/aggregator sites. I like WP-O-Matic because it's free, easy to use, and just works with minimal effort on my part.
Does this mean that the current version of wp-o-matic won't work in the same way? I'm a techie moron so not fam. with cron

(Got my domain, WP installed and ready to go!)

Just few more questions, Keith...thanks for your patience...

Will we set up permalinks to get the headline of the post as our url? As one would with any other post?

Does wp-o-matic show the entire post or excerpt only?

Are you familiar with RSS footer? You could actually set up one of these sites to build backlinks to another site, no? (On top of monetizing it) Just add a link to your other site in your feed Or, just use gocodes to build links to your money site...


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That is a fantastic point and it was one I was just going to bring up. I'm glad I ended up reading your posts.

That is something you really need to watch out for. You can get your blog banned from those pinging sites. Trust it when I say it happens.

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Hello,

Keith, I saw your link in my thread. I will say something here about your method and make a comment that may help some. First off, as I mention in my ebook, traffic and income will determine your blog's value. As such, if you get these blogs to over $100/month income, you will do well, very well. I show you how to add services and extras to pump up the profits as well.

Now on to a couple of helpful points. First off, regarding those massive ping lists. You have to be VERY careful about those. If you look closely, you'll see that several services listed above actually ping the same sites. As a result, every time you ping, you'll be pinging 3-4-5 or more times with the same information. This can eventually cause your blog to be blacklisted on several ping urls. I use a small but not redundant list. Second, please avoid massively posting using automated tools. Have a little patience. Set the posting frequency to something a motivated human can achieve. If you fly under the radar, you'll do much better in the long term.

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Great points Tommy. Especially about the ping list. You do want to make sure you're not double pinging any services. Try to get as many as possible, but don't overdo it. Very important to note. That doesn't apply to the submission of your RSS feed - I recommend doing that in as many places as possible.

Now as far as posting with the automated tools, it really depends on the look and feel of the blog. I try to use a news-y theme, and I develop a pretty robust category structure, and then match that with my WP-O-Matic schema. So what I get it what looks less like a blog and more like an authority news site, rather than what most consider a "blog" (a series of posts from a single author).

For me, the more content, and the more variated, the better. Here's a super-power tip I didn't include in the original writeup (I forgot) but you can get a plugin called "WP More Feeds" that allows you to make a separate feed URL for each CATEGORY you create for your posts. Even a feed for each tag! That means you can submit that many MORE feeds to all these RSS sites and get even more coverage.

EDIT: I was incorrect - More Feeds just makes your category and tag archive pages into feeds. Wordpress itself makes per-category feeds as explained in their docs. Thought it didn't sound right, so I double checked on a blog that uses it. The point is still valid though - your blog has multiple feeds, and you should use em all!

Then, go to feedburner, get set up there with all your feeds, and then submit all THOSE to all the RSS sites.

You can really go nuts with this and make your content just cast a gigantic net. Or, you can just do a reasonable amount per blog, then instead of overdoing it on one, spend your energy on another blog in another niche. Or, another super tip - if you're in a niche that's doing well, make more than one blog in the same niche to cover different sub-niches. I've only done this in one of my markets, but it's working well. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd really expand on it some more.
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Junaid,To expand their network, obviously. Got nothing to do with you personally.

Good chance you've got an old WP or phpBB installation on that site or server. If so, update it, and change the admin passwords.

Download the whole site via FTP and look at the bottom of the pages. It's likely the code involved is there.
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Thanks Paul.

It's a straight html site, but I found this in the index file, along with a foreign directory containing more directories, weird files and more php scripts with embedded javascript.

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I also found similar code in the header and footer files of the template I'm using for a blog I created on a brand new domain just 2 days ago.

They've obviously hacked the admin password for my hosting account - which I've now changed...

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Does this mean that the current version of wp-o-matic won't work in the same way? I'm a techie moron so not fam. with cron
Nah, it works fine. Even if you don't know how to set up a cron, you can get a URL from the WP-O-Matic interface and just visit it once a day and it'll update your whole blog for you. As I told someone who PMd me, it's not FULLY automated if you can't do cron, but it doesn't get any closer to automated than "click this link once a day".

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It will show whatever comes across in the feeds you're using. I don't really mind if it only does an excerpt, as I mentioned, my sites aren't framing this content as original or unique. I'm making more of a "whole niche at a glance" news aggregator site, if that makes sense. So I don't care if they're excerpts or that they link away from my site.

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Are you familiar with RSS footer? You could actually set up one of these sites to build backlinks to another site, no? (On top of monetizing it) Just add a link to your other site in your feed Or, just use gocodes to build links to your money site...
Yes. Also, some of these blogs will naturally pick up a high PR just magically. I use my high PR sites and give my lower ones a backlink to pump them up. I'm worried about maybe leaving a footprint and having google think I'm a blog network (which I guess informally, I am) so I started using this other plugin, I forget the name, but it basically rotates your blogroll randomly, so it mixes things up regularly. But that's advanced. You don't need to know about that until you build your first one.

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Phew! My poor mind is rrracing..... the possibilites here are, uhm, endless... I just gotta get over the techie stuff
Don't let it intimidate you. One of the things I love about Wordpress is that it makes it easy, but for the parts of it that ARE challenging, it also helps you learn other useful things regarding internet tech stuff that will only help your marketing efforts. Also, don't let your mind racing keep you from just getting the basics done. I'd say, get 3 of these going, just using my standard method above. THEN go back and re-visit them and improve them with additional stuff.

Hope that helps, and best of luck!
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They've obviously hacked the admin password for my hosting account - which I've now changed...
Do not assume that was the attack vector. Changing that password won't hurt, but, if the blog is on the same hosting account, that may have been the weak point. Update the version of WP and change that password, too.


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Are you allowed to pull RSS feeds from sites and blogs and just republish them on your own site?
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Are you allowed to pull RSS feeds from sites and blogs and just republish them on your own site?
I'm syndicating them. That's part of the whole reason RSS exists. "Really Simple Syndication". If they don't want it re-published, they shouldn't put it in a feed, is my thinking. But depending on their specific TOCs, I might be stepping on some toes, but not so far as I know.

I also link back to the sources too, so they're all getting benefit. It's no different than if I was a news site, quoting stories and linking back to the source. I just do it automatically. Isn't that really what something like Google News is, after all? I'm not stealing the content or re-labeling it as my own, I'm republishing it intact. I just also add in my own links, and then further re-publish.

My goal as stated is to make a niche authority site. What better way to do that than to set my blog up as a crossroads for all niche related discussion and new content, no matter where it might appear?

In fact, I never bothered to follow up, but I bet original posters who get re-syndicated by me also get a huge SEO benefit from my process as well. Their backlinks get syndicated as well as mine. Never had anyone complain or contact me to be removed. If they did, I could, but what are they getting out of it - free links and traffic?
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I'm baaaaack...

Got the cron job sorted, but having a blank about getting the rss feeds.

Went to Google news. My keyword has a lot of entries, but nowhere on there is there a way to subscribe to a feed? We are looking for the url of the feed, yes?

Does that mean I can find blogs on my topic and use their feed? Don't want to copy someone's blog....

Could someone elaborate on finding a feed please. I already got 10 posts on the blog but none are on my topic...lol...

Can you set the max. amount of posts per day somewhere?

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I'm baaaaack...

Got the cron job sorted, but having a blank about getting the rss feeds.

Went to Google news. My keyword has a lot of entries, but nowhere on there is there a way to subscribe to a feed? We are looking for the url of the feed, yes?

Does that mean I can find blogs on my topic and use their feed? Don't want to copy someone's blog....

Could someone elaborate on finding a feed please. I already got 10 posts on the blog but none are on my topic...lol...

Can you set the max. amount of posts per day somewhere?

Evita
So when you are looking at the results page when you've done a google news search, there is a menu of links along the left hand column. The one that says "RSS" is near the bottom and is the one you're looking for.

Yes, you can syndicate blogs directly if they provide an RSS feed. The idea is that you're not just copying one blog. If you take blog feeds directly, try to get a bunch of blogs in the same niche, and syndicate them all, so you're aggregating a bunch of content, which is a value in itself.

Now, if you're getting incorrectly targeted content, and are getting way too many posts, you need to refine your search terms. It's easy, you do it the same way you would if you were searching yourself. Just refine your terms until all (or at least a majority) of the results ARE appropriate for your niche.

As far as limiting the number of posts, you do that when you set up the campaign. You can limit it to a number of items to pull while ignoring the rest. That's what you're looking to do, I believe.

Let me know if that answers your questions. Kudos on getting started and implementing this so quickly!
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Thanks Keith:

Great post. I've already started two sites and more to come.

BTW. Auto Social Poster is down for the day. Will be open to-morrow.

NowI'm off to make some money.

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I've found WP-O-Matic to be impossibly picky about the RSS feeds. I couldn't get it to create a post for Google News, Google Blog Search, eBay/EPN, Yahoo Pipes or anything else I've tried. I'll do some more Googling around for answer but if anyone has any thoughts about the configuration, please let me know.

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Hmm. I've never had any trouble getting it to work. The only thing I can think of is if you don't have PHP5. You need PHP5 to run the SimplePie library that WP-O-Matic uses.

But I'm not a technical person. It works easy peasy for me and I've never had an issue.

Edit: I wanted to add, if you're having trouble with WP-O-Matic, you might try using a plugin called "Feed Wordpress" that looks like it does something similar. I've never used it, so I can't say for sure, but it sounds like it does. If anything, it may lack the link replacement feature, but you can get yet another plugin called "SEO Smart Links" can add that functionality back. Again, I haven't tested this combo, but it might work for you if you can't use WP-O-Matic. Hope that helps!

Edit #2: nm - I'm a dummy - the above system WILL work, I also tested with another re-linking plugin called "KB Linker" - the links show up in the content portion of the feeds. At least, preliminary testing indicates that it does, but I prefer the way WP-O-Matic does it, because the link is actually hard-coded into the body of the post when it's created. These other plugins modify the content when the page is displayed. I guess what I'm saying is, I use WP-O-Matic, but if it's not working for you, try these alternatives. I haven't tested it extensively, it appears that it would work fine. Another important note, even though SimplePie (part of WP-O-Matic) *says* it needs PHP5, the part of it that WP-O-Matic uses must not need it, because just for giggles I tried doing this on a PHP4 installation and it failed the SimplePie test, but still runs and works perfectly.
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Great Post!! Thanks. Want to control how often you ping. Get, "maxblogpress-ping-optimizer". You can set your pings for however long an interval you want.

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Yes! I also recommend this plugin as well. It's not VITAL, but it will help your blog appear more natural if you plan to go full automatic.

Even if you don't go full automatic, you could easily use this method to save all your RSS stuff as drafts, then go in and manually edit, tweak, commentate, etc. It's still an IMMENSE time saver. That's if you're trying to go with the slick, for real, dedicated niche site.

My goal is more to make a lot of average performing mediocre sites and keep profiting from volume. That's why I focus on selling advertising, because SEO savvy marketers don't really care if the blog is crappy or not as long as the link gives PR juice. I'm not inclined to care much either.

Good enough is good enough for me. But I don't want anyone to exclude themselves from this method because they don't want to make an automated re-poster. The technique is still kickass if you need a way to constantly come up with stuff to blog about. DOn't go looking for topics - use my system to let topics come to you!

Anyways, enough rambling. Hope that helps.
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