Mobile Monopoly

Well, Admob has been acquired by Google (That sucks!!!) which tells you that mobile advertising is something definitely worth looking into.

I'm wondering that myself. I watch the videos and it sounds interesting.

Although I'm one of those people who try's really hard not to give out my cell phone number for the exact reason Adam is pitching. It's bad enough that we occasionally receive tel-marketing calls. I'm just not sure I want a random advertisement being sent to my cell phone or how many people really would welcome a random advertisement sent to their phone.

Maybe a better investment would be to develop a spam filter for cell phones...

I just attended a webinar on this course yesterday. They showed how to setup a mobile campaign and also gave an overview of the course.

I thought the replay will help some warriors here:

Mobile Monopoly Campaigns Setup Webinar Replay

-JW

This course is sick!

I know Adam personally, and he's really a great guy.

He also helped me set up a campaign that's made 25 sales over the past 4 days, awesome stuff

I bought it and will be going through it and setting some campaigns up this week. I'm glad
to see the positive reviews here. I think the main concern for most is not to stick your
neck out too far with the campaigns until you have tested them yourself.

I'm not crazy about getting any ads on my cell either but I'm sure it is the wave of our
future and I don't want to be left behind!

I'll come back after I see results (hopefully they will be positive).

Cheers!
Sally

My only concern about this course is if it is similar to "Cell Phone Cash" that was released last year that no one could seem to make money with.

Everyone was using admob at that time and burned through some cash with no positive results, even sending them to a opt-in type page.

So why would this be any different? If they couldn't make it work then why would it be any different today?

It all sounds good in theory but if you can't make a good ROI then why waste your money?

TedK

My concern is this. yes the clicks may be very cheap right now. However, from the looks of things, this is going to be a very well received product and lots of people will be buying it and using it. The more that use the AdMob platform, the higher the clicks will cost. Pretty much like what happened to Adwords a few years ago.

After watching video number 2 in the lead up to product launch I set up a "weightloss" campaign exactly as Adam showed on screen. The results were this:
Campaign setup 29/7/10 to present 3/8/10
Page impressions 80,459
Clicks 356
CTR 0.44%
subscribers to list 11
Cost $52.40
CPC $0.15
ROI so far $0.00

The very cheap clicks ie $0.03 are only available if the campaign is run on an open demograhic. ie anyone in the world who has a pulse and a mobile phone. The more targeted campaigns tend to be around the $0.15 mark. I posted my results in the comments section of the pre launch video but they weren't approved by the moderator for some reason! Lol. I was only trying to give my honest real life results.

I still think it's an exciting concept though and am gonna try some more ads.

PS I think the $67 per month upsell for "Beastmobi" is steep.

I've lost a lot with Cell Phone Marketing Strategies, maybe I'm doing something wrong. However, this Course looks promising, I'll dig in and update on what I think.

Can these methods be applied locally? Ie in other non-US countries such as Australia?
I am not sure I can GEO say the Melbourne or Sydney areas for my clients.

Danny,

Just sent you a PM

Thanks,

TedK

Again its a product promoted based purely on revenue without any reference to expenditure! It does look tempting but we need to see the spend for that return!

That isn't gonna happen though is it? How many product developers ever come in here giving full and transparent disclosure of cost to return ratio?

Danny, sent you pm, thanks...

Well, I bought it the other night after a webinar but am unable to get in. When I try to log in and click on forgot my password when it doesn't let me in it says that my email isn't registered.

I've emailed support twice with no response so if I don't hear anything soon I guess I'll just go for the refund!

It looked like a good way to build lists in various niches and he showed how he followed up with related offers which seems like where the money was made since he admits that the conversions of buying off cells is very low.

I'll give it a try if I ever get in!

Best of luck to everyone!
Sally

Not good so far,like he says in the video ,sign ups will be coming fast,dont think so.2 days now ,no clicks, and only,114 impr,at lest i thought i would get sign ups and no cpa $,but no sign ups as well. my adds are spot on,all is well my end,but not working,
even if i had 2000 clicks of the bat,and no sign ups at least i might say that's down to me. really disappointed, i thought this might get the traffic, like he says,
will keep going and let you no how it gos.

kev

Hey Everyone,

I purchased MM and I loving
it so far.

I have a quick question for others
that purchased it.

Those of you who also purchased BEASTMOBI
from Adam how do you access it?

I can't find it in the MM back office anywhere.

I look forward to everyone's response.

I will also post my results with the course
as I get my ads out there.

Best Wishes,

James D'Alesandro

I set up the campaign exactly as shown in the second video and after 24 hours had one click at four cents. Results not anywhere as shown in the video.

So here is a quick update and then I'm off to my bed.

Danny spent a good hour with me today walking me through how he goes about setting up his test campaigns and does his geo targeted research.

I've now setup 1 test campaign in AdMob and it's awaiting approval. It took me all of 15 minutes to setup that first campaign.

I plan to setup another 5 to 10 before the weekend and see how they do once they've been approved.

I would suggest that anyone who wants to do mobile marketing should have a budget of at least $50 because that's the minimum that AdMob requires for the daily budget to run your campaign.

I've also learned of several other Mobile Advertising Networks through Danny. I'm eager to test them as well once I have results from my AdMob campaigns. Apparently the CPC for some of the other Mobile networks is cheaper than AdMob.

Anyway, that's all for now folks. Keep on truckin' or trollin' or earnin'. Whatever you do, just have fun.

Dion

P.S. I haven't logged into my AdMob account in literally more than 6 months. When I logged in today I had to accept their updated terms and also provide more personal information, go figure. I'm no stranger to CPA, but Mobile CPA is relatively new to me and if I can setup a campaign in 15 minutes then any person that is new can do it.

P.P.S. Thanks again Danny for sticking to it even after the terrible results from Mack's training. I really appreciate your time and willingness to assist me in cracking the code to mobile marketing.

MODERATOR

The guy clearly stated his relationship with Danny at the top of his first post. So I think the 'shilling' charge is a bit unfair.

But let nobody be in any doubt that Ken and I are watching this thread like hawks ;-)

Pearson

Here's an update on my 2 campaigns so far (I'm still awaiting approval from Admob on another 3)

Weight Loss campaign set up 29 July squeeze page in Aweber offering free weight loss report in return for email submit then sending to Peerfly $500 Walmart offer:
Impressions 88,155
Clicks 381 CTR 0.43%
Cost $56.15 CPC $0.15
Sign ups for CPA offer 2 @ $1.20 = $2.40
Subscribers 12

Second campaign was one of the "proven" ones given after product purchase 3 Aug:
Miracet stop smoking aid, sent direct to CPA offer @ Peerfly:
Impressions: 98,439
Clicks 149 CTR 0.15%
Cost $23.84 CPC $0.16
Sign ups for CPA offer 0

NB: When I set this "proven" campaign up there were no CPC or CTR stats at Peerfly. I asked my contact why and he said "because no one has run it yet"! Hmmmm?????

I do appreciate that there is an amount of trial and error here. However, I imagine the product is purchased on the basis that the trial and error for the "proven campaigns" has already been done.

Well I've bought it, but like a couple of others here I can't log in. Very frustrating!

Patience is everything!?

This product is ranked #1 on Clickbank right now, after a few days. Adam Horwitz is awesome. The gravity increase rapidly.

Just got the course yesterday. Put together a few campaigns and will let you all know my results.

I purchased this 2 days ago, along with the upsells.. But, after watching the 7 proven campaigns, it seems like a lot of this is being winged on the fly. I mean, couldn't he have found a smoking offer that didn't show you needed to get approved..like maybe re record the video so it doesn't look so obvious that he has never actually run the campaign. . Rather, this is one of his proven campaigns, yet he is not even approved for the offer yet in his own account. So, I have yet to implement his proven offers, but I think I may just get a refund, atleast for the proven campaigns, but the main course seems like ok theory. It's just that, when you are selling your 7 proven campaigns( I'm not the copy and paste type really, just curious as to what works like anyone else would be.), It would be nice if he could detail the campaign like...as you can see here on july 28 I had 700 clicks for a total of $27 dollars, but you will also notice that I sold 2 smoking cpa products on the same day for 39 a pop... end guru impersonation. I honestly can't believe he can just say here is an offer, here is the adtext, oh dangit, I'm not approved yet for this offer, why did I choose this offer again on live video, after all I told them this was a proven money maker, oh what the heck, let's just throw it in and hope nobody sees. Atleast give us some data... He doesn't even show proof the campaign was ever running..

Basically, I think it was an eye opening course, BUT, I don't think there are very many people that will be able to make a lot of money following his campaigns. And if his upsell of "proven campaigns" is built on theory(not positive, but it sure seems like some of them were), then I'm sure the main course....

The good thing is, you learn about the ad networks and the cpa networks for mobiles. If you're interested, and have a lot of effort, then it might work, but I think for now, I'll stick with marketing to people actually on their computers for the most part.

I just saw on clickbank that mobile monopoly is currently #1 product there with a gravity of 634. Must be having great sales. To me at least the concept is most unique otherwise all the new products that are being launched these days are all old stuff. I am really enjoying this course and going to make some campaigns very soon.

Pay per call offers are all I've found/heard of working with mobile (except the odd normal CPA campaign).

...And those are usually run in house since there are still only a few real mobile advertising platforms and affiliates really aren't needed.

But I haven't bought the course, maybe the proven campaigns work very well.

ConcordeWarrior, I replied to your pm, but it went poof since I don't have enough posts. Someone else here in the WF had this link: BeastMobi Admin - Login
Sorry, I forgot who but bless their heart - I know it helped me.

In pre launch ,i saw 2 video and implemented as he said ,This is result
Page impressions 713
Clicks 4
CTR 0.56%
subscribers to list 0
Cost $0.34
CPC $0.07
ROI so far $0.0

May be i need to increase my bid .

I started a different campaign promoting clickbank product on IPad .Here are is my result :
Page impressions 11,958
Clicks 23
CTR 0.19%
Cost $1.93
AVG CPC $0.08
ROI so far $33.00 (in one sale).

That one sale came in first 5-7 clicks .

I had a chance to go through the course and its very clear that he does not walk the talk...

The CPA accounts that he shows have little or no money in them and his mobile ad network accounts have almost no stats...if he was really making the income he claimed, why would he not show his actual campaign results? (especially when he's giving away those campaigns as bonuses claiming that these campaigns have made him a lot of money)...

As @Culvers points out, 99% of the course is just a walkthrough of ad networks, mobile networks and his software...no mention of tactics, strategies, targeting, optimization etc

The bonus campaigns are a joke - he randomly picks up campaigns, then sets it up on admob and abruptly ends the video saying - 'run this campaign and I promise you that will make crazy amounts of money'.

If only marketing was as simple as randomly blasting out offers and making money from them, every marketer would be a millionaire...

Overall, I was extremely unimpressed with the course....its very clear that the course was made to capitalize on the hot interest in this niche, and not created based on personal experience...

You'd get 100 times more information by watching the free webinars put out by the OfferMobi guys than from this info product...

In addition to the usual paid traffic methods I have done mobile marketing for almost 2 years, which is about 18 months longer than the product creator ( though after looking at the product I seriously doubt he has ever really done any ) I had so many people mention this thing to me during the week, that i just had to check it out.

I don't really need to do a long post on the product now, as to be fair Martin Brok has pretty much nailed it, you can read it here http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ly-review.html

I do however have some points I would like to highlight in addition to what Martin wrote.

No mention or examples of using google adwords mobile ads . Google does own admob now, but the platforms are still very different.You can still do mobile ads on google search. and of course other ads via the google display network, just set up seperate campaigns for mobile only within the adwords account. I guess he's " killing it " so much he didn't need to access the google traffic or show the people buying his course about using google for mobile ?

I don't mind sharing that I do click to call via google adwords for mobile. I use it to promote finance related offers, and it is profitable, but not huge traffic volumes. A google mobile ad gives them 2 choices in the ad, either click and call the number, which obviously with a phone in their hand is easy, or click to visit the website, which in this case is optimised for a mobile visitor.

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No examples of split testing. I can tell you that different networks, and different devices will give you different results and different bid prices. You may find that conversions on a squeeze page for an ad that targets iphone users only will perform better than a standard phone.

Let me take one example from this thread.

Alice Ayres comment at #83
Weight Loss campaign set up 29 July squeeze page in Aweber offering free weight loss report in return for email submit then sending to Peerfly $500 Walmart offer:
Impressions 88,155
Clicks 381 CTR 0.43%
Cost $56.15 CPC $0.15
Sign ups for CPA offer 2 @ $1.20 = $2.40
Subscribers 12

Alice, the first thing here is if you paid 15 cents on admob, then I expect you chose the most broad setting. 15 cents is the usual default bid price.

If you had done device targeting you may find all 12 of those subs came from an iphone or a blackberry ? and you wasted money on other other clicks from other phones. On the other hand you may just have a bad page, because I would have expected around 40 subscribers even via mobile for that if it was targeted and the page optimised.

It does not matter what traffic method is used to get a subscriber, once you have them, the process for selling is the same, and if you punt crap to subscriber via email, they won't be anymore likely to buy from you just because they signed up via a mobile. As the great John Caples said " Times change. People don't " If you reach your customer through mobile, they are still the same, with the same needs and wants.

Though this is not the place to go deeper into it, I will also tell you that sending your subscribers to other companies email submits is not a viable business model.


Cheap Traffic- Let me make this one clear. If you are targeting North America and Europe, 1 cent and 3 cent bids do not exist on the main networks that have the traffic. Cheap traffic in relation to other markets ? YES, for example taking the details I showed above, Try getting 381 clicks on google for weight loss at an avg of 15 cents. It is about knowing your market and what the costs in that market are on other platforms. Insurance as a keyword on mobile is cheap compared to buying it on google . (REMOVED... PERSONAL ATTACK )



I won't beat about the bush here, In my view and with experience in this marketplace, the front end marketing of this course is set up to deliberately mislead the customer by implying that the process is easy and fast .Big generalisations about making " big money "

quote " Going Mobile will turn into the fastest most effortless money you have ever made "

It is the classic clickbank sales page, post up a bunch of screen shots, get a couple of your buddies to vouch how great it is ( MOD NOTE: PERSONAL COMMENT REMOVED. yes this product is " sick" but not the hip way you mean ) , and you are good to go.

even the number he quotes for his aweber subscriptions includes the unsubcribes, which would mean his one big list is 17327 not 22, 312, (MOD NOTE: This line was removed due to personal attack) If he can't quote an accurate number based on a screen grab we can all see, how much credit you want to give the rest of his story ?


Save your money, because this won't deliver the the mobile marketing holy grail.

Mobile marketing is growing, and you can make money with it, but just like any other traffic source, be that facebook plenty of fish, or even the mighty Goog, if you have no clue about marketing , if you don't know who your target customer is, then you will not get good results. Spend some time and money on understanding marketing first.

Sorry people, it has been said many times, but there is no magic button in this game,... MOD NOTE: PERSONAL ATTACK REMOVED

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Just so we are clear. I have no agenda here, there is NO marketing in my sig, and I don't sell I.M stuff. This is just my opinion based on this product.

@KevScarb: Could you share what kind of results you're getting with your marketing efforts, especially with pay-per-call via mobile ads?

@dannynz: I signed up for your newsletter/blog, but I didn't see any mention of a mastermind group. Could you please post more details about the mastermind? Also, could you share more details about your success with CPA offers over mobile?

Thanks guys for your input.

@buyitpc,

I'm not sure what Danny said but my guess is what he was trying to say is before you run a campaign you should do some demographic research. Let me give you an example as I understand it.

Let's say I was testing a campaign for "text dating" in a particular country. I'll use Canada for this example. I would have to figure out who the target market is for that offer and target them specifically before running my campaign otherwise I run the risk of losing money very quickly.

The cool thing that I've learned about mobile marketing (from networking/masterminding with another WF member) is that you can get really specific with your targeting even down to the model of phone being used.

Here's what I would do to launch a mobile campaign:

1) Take the domain for the campaign and plug that into Quantcast and Google Ad planner to get the best demographics and age range.

Note: if there is no data on the domain, I do a search in Google for the campaign domain and plug in the number 1 competitor that shows up in the results and just move down the list until data shows up.

2) Look at the primary phone for Canada (can be found in the campaign planner of your mobile cpa network) which happens to be Blackberry (RIM).

3) Look at the primary channel for Canada which happens to be lifestyle. <-- we care a lot about lifestyle up here.

4) Launch my campaign targeting the best age range I've found for the website, country, channel, phone carrier and phone model.

5) Split test to see how text ads convert compared to banner ads.

The networks even recommend what price to bid at so much of the guessing has been removed.

I am by no means an expert. I am still testing things out for myself but this is the process I use for the successful cpa campaigns I'm running through PPC and CPV so I'm pretty convinced this process will work for mobile as well.

Anyway, I hope that helps and I didn't get too technical for you. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

Cheers.

P.S. FYI let's stick to the topic and keeps things about reviewing the course. Feel free to send me a PM if it's not review related.

I need a review copy of Mobile Monopoly for my blog etc.. Can anyone PM me who has one please. Thanks, Rich.

I was one of the people who brought Cell Phone Cash. I ended up wasting $187 on admob with 0 sales.

Anyway, looking at your guys feedback, I am going to give another shot to this

google for "clickbank refund" and you´ll find how to do it. it is totally automated but a little bit hidden.

Although this should have had a huge "REFUND ME NOW!" Button spammed over the net.

MODERATOR

I don't suppose anybody would like to make a little video about how to get a refund from Clickbank? This comes up so frequently in this forum.

Pearson

On Clickbank home page there's an icon at the very top "order help" click that.
A box appears "Order Lookup" enter Clickbank order number and one of either "email address" "last 4 digits of credit card number" or "Paypal Transaction ID"
Click Submit.

An "Order Detail Box" will appear. In the top left click "Get Support"
Another box will appear "What problem are you having?"
In the drop down box there's a list of options, click "more options" at the bottom.
Then a box appears with "refund request" in the middle with a radio button to check.
List reason for refund from drop down box, then click submit.

You should then receive an email saying that your request is being dealt with.

The problem with Mobile Monopoly is that the payment for the product wasn't taken from the normal Clickbank page. In the video promo Adam promises a refund but states it has to be done by just "shooting him an email"

I hope this helps.

while on mobile marketing myself i have seen Admoda - Mobile Advertising offering really good CPC. still cpc as low as $0.01 worth looking into them.

PS. Taken from Adam`s JV Blog http://mobilemonopoly.com/jvblog/

"Competition is still really crazy and sales just keep coming in! Our gravity is over 700 and is working it’s way to the 1,000 mark which will be, from what I hear, a Clickbank RECORD for highest gravity ever! Just 300 away… We can do it guys!

We now have over 12,000 sales and it’s growing faster each and every day! "

I was going to put out an honest review for it thats why i wanted a copy to check over first but by the sounds of it from all the negative stuff doesnt sound like a good idea.

Fair play to Adam seeing the opportunity in the market...it's just a pity he didn't just walk his talk a little bit as from a marketing perspecitive with his lauch video's...it's a snazzy process

I don't see the point in having two threads on this. So please use

http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ml#post2464682


Thanks.

Pearson