Bev Clement needs your help...

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Dear Friends

One of our warriors needs your help and I'm hoping you will (as usual) rise up to the occasion and help her out.

Bev Clement who is a very active warrior as a rule is finding herself in a bit of a spot. Through no fault of her own, she and her husband find themselves homeless at the moment and having to live in a series of relatively expensive hotels (most start around US$60 a night).

Some background on Bev

Rob & Bev sold everything in the UK to go and work as volunteers in China. They mainly supported themselves, and used IM to give them an income. In China their monthly expenses were between $200 and $300 but they had to leave when visas were no longer being given for China.

Since then they have been living with a friend in Hong Kong who is now getting married. As the apartment they were all sharing is quite small Bev and Rob decided their friends needed more space to themselves and moved out to live in a hotel until they could get an apartment sorted out for themselves.

The problem they find now though is the exchange rate in Hong Kong is crippling them, and apartments now cost 50% more than they did 6 months ago. At the moment they just don't have the capital to put down the huge deposit needed to get their own place. Hence having to live in hotels etc from day to day.

Bev's been a good friend to many on the Warrior forum, Miss Marple (as I like to call her) has her eagle eye fixated on anyone she thinks is scamming other Warriors and its thanks to her that many people haven't been duped into parting with their hard earned cash. She's also a loyal friend whom I know has helped out many here on the forum (Including me).

I've been talking to Bev on Skype and she says a sum of about $5k would probably help both her and Rob get back on their feet and I'm hoping Warriors will rise to the occasion and help them out. In fact I'm hoping we can make it even more to give them a cushion.

She doesn't want charity or people to give her anything for nothing (neither do I). After all we all have to make our dollars work for us. This is Bev's paypal email address, admin@robbev.com

For anyone who sends Bev a donation of $5 or more, I will send them a copy of my eBook Membership Secrets.

If you send a donation of over $25, I will include a copy of my shopping cart EasySellerpro (See my sig for details of both). Email me at k.standerline at ntlworld.com (change at for @ obviously) with your receipt details and I will forward you the download pages. I'm going out shortly though so please don't be impatient if it is later that I send it.

Bev and Rob find themselves in a position where many of us could say "There for the grace of God etc" and even a few dollars from their warrior friends is a help and will be very much appreciated.

Thanks for reading
Kim

Edit

The firesale is now up and running (such as it is) and already making sales. www.allbusinessblog.info/bev/

It's getting late here in the UK, but I will be adding to it tomorrow, please let me have all contributions

Thanks
Kim
#bev #clements #hep
  • Profile picture of the author DaveLloyd
    Hi Kim,

    Sorry to hear of Bev and Rob's problem.

    I hope they manage to find suitable accommodation soon.

    Donation sent.

    Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author Naithan
    Hi Kim,

    I know the feeling, sending donation now.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Thank you guys (I appreciate it)

    Just send me your receipts and I'll email you the links you need

    Edit

    I'm thinking of throwing up a page to have a mini firesale for them, so if anyone wants to contribute just let me know.

    Cheers
    Kim
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      I'm thinking of throwing up a page to have a mini firesale for them, so if anyone wants to contribute just let me know.
      Heather and I would love to contribute something to the firesale Kim, when it's up and running let us know.

      Peter and Heather Bestel
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  • I just chatted with Bev on Skype. Until now, she never said word one about moving out of her shared apartment (claimed she had a "blonde moment").

    Yeah, I sent her some PayPal love, but don't need anything in return. Bev's helped me in the past in ways I cannot repay.

    The rest of you need to know that Bev and Rob are just stuck in a bad place right now. They are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. The vicissitudes of live have stopped them just inches from the goal.

    Your help will be invaluable.

    Sincerely,
    Vince Runza
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      It's been difficult for her to accept the help she has so often generously given others Vince. I had to twist her arm to let me do this for her. (She's a very private person).

      I agree with you, once back up on their feet, they will be fine. They just need a helping hand from their friends to get there.

      The economic climate sucks at the moment doesn't it

      Kim

      Peter thanks for the offer, I wish I could get it started today, but got a lot on with the grandkids so I'll take offers at the mo

      lol I don't even know how to do a firesale, talk about a baptism of fire

      Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online View Post

      I just chatted with Bev on Skype. Until now, she never said word one about moving out of her shared apartment (claimed she had a "blonde moment").

      Yeah, I sent her some PayPal love, but don't need anything in return. Bev's helped me in the past in ways I cannot repay.

      The rest of you need to know that Bev and Rob are just stuck in a bad place right now. They are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. The vicissitudes of live have stopped them just inches from the goal.

      Your help will be invaluable.

      Sincerely,
      Vince Runza
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      • Profile picture of the author Art
        I'm sorry to hear about Bev and Rob's situation. Though I don't post much myself, I am one of the people who have benefited from some of Bev's posts over the past year. Because of my own financial situation, I cannot send much, but I will send something. If enough other people do the same, the goal can be reached. My sincere best wishes to Bev and Rob. I hope things improve for them very soon.

        --Art
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        • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
          Thanks Art

          Every dollar is a blessing, especially from those people who don't have much themselves

          Kim

          Originally Posted by Art View Post

          I'm sorry to hear about Bev and Rob's situation. Though I don't post much myself, I am one of the people who have benefited from some of Bev's posts over the past year. Because of my own financial situation, I cannot send much, but I will send something. If enough other people do the same, the goal can be reached. My sincere best wishes to Bev and Rob. I hope things improve for them very soon.

          --Art
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          • Profile picture of the author John-K.
            Wow. That must be so stressful, especially considering she is in a foreign land. Donation sent.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

        Peter thanks for the offer, I wish I could get it started today, but got a lot on with the grandkids so I'll take offers at the mo

        lol I don't even know how to do a firesale, talk about a baptism of fire
        I couldn't help you there either LOL

        Peter

        PS How many times has Bev told you that it's Clement not Clements? If you're going to help get it right Standerlines!!! LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author jlandells
        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

        lol I don't even know how to do a firesale, talk about a baptism of fire
        Hi Kim,

        I'm no expert on firesales, but I am a techie and have an extensive programming background so would love to help if you need me. Plus, I'm in your time zone and speak your language (British!)....

        Kind regards,
        -John.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    All the times I've tweeted with Bev and she's never mentioned living in hotels! I keep inviting her to come stay with me, that would end the hotel problem :p

    Anyway Kim, give me a list of the ppl who donate (who want to participate) and in a few days I'll randomly pick 2 and make them a Squidoo lens on the topic of their choice free. Normal sales price on my site for the lens $30. I've made many for other ppl.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    I just sent some $. Bev has been a wonderful source of help and advice since the day I joined here, someone I could ALWAYS turn to if I needed to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tracy Yates
    Kim,

    I just sent Bev a little bit. If I can give more, I'll surely do so. Bev is a terrific Warrior, and as I've been in some tight spots myself over the past 6 months, I know every little bit can help.

    If there's anything I can donate to your firesale, then please PM or email me and let me know. I know what it's like to be displaced without somewhere to lay your head at night.


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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Thanks Kim and everyone else who has responded.

    We just got back to the room, and I will be contacting you all shortly.

    Kim let me know what you need for a firesale I will get some products to you.

    Swindon, Bristol we used to live in Trowbridge which isn't a million miles away. I worked in Brislington and we went shopping in Swindon and Bath.

    Again thanks everybody we really appreciate all you have done
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    • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
      Can't offer anything financially at the moment, but wishing you all the best Bev!
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      • Profile picture of the author JazzOscar
        Small amount transfered. Not much, but my bank account has seen better days (understatement).

        In Norway we have a saying that should go something like this in english;

        "Many small creeks make a large river."

        Hope it works out like that here too!

        Best wishes!
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Duxbury
    Kim

    Let me know when you are ready to accept products and I will have something for the Firesale

    Bev is someone I have an immense amount of respect for and will be happy to help

    Take care

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Texjd
    Just sent. I always enjoyed watching Bev go after some of the scammers.

    Don't worry about the freebies but let me know if I can help in someway with the firesale.

    You did a good thing by letting people know.
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  • Profile picture of the author iw433
    Will contribute something to the firesale
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  • Profile picture of the author aikay77
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    Hi,

    I am sorry about Bev and Rob's problems.

    I would have loved to send her something, but I cant
    because i live in Nigeria and can't use PayPal.

    However I'm praying for her. With God she'll get all
    her problems solved.

    Ronald.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
    Kim,

    thanks for pointing this out - Bev & Rob are always willing to help others. I've sent a bit their way and hope it helps. As Steven Said - keep the shopping cart, or feel free to pay it forward to some one else.

    I may hit up some folks in the UK in 2012 for a pint or a quick tour when I bring my wife and 2 boys over for the Olympics - I even promise not to act like a typical arrogant yank if I can help it ;-)
    best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
    It wasn't near what I wish I could send but I just sent what I could for now. Hopefully I can send more shortly.
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    • Profile picture of the author reynald2790
      It is very sad story. I wish I could help them. I know that they can move on and find suitable house to live in. The most important thing is they treasure each other.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nigel Greaves
    I'm sorry to hear about Bev and Rob's situation and I'd like to help.

    If anyone wants to buy any of the pre-made Squidoo lenses from here:
    Squidoo Lenses For Sale

    you can have them at half the marked price and the money will go to Rob and Bev.

    Here's how to do it:

    1) Confirm with me the lens is still available.

    2) You send the payment to Bev's paypal account (half the marked price)

    3) Once I've confirmed the payment has been received by Bev I'll transfer the lens.

    I'm in the middle of a seminar I'm running all week-end so bear with me if I'm a little slow in confirming the availability of any lenses you want.

    Nigel

    MODS: Hopefully you won't object to me linking direct to my Squidoo page but if you do please just make it a non-working link rather than deleting. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    Kim,

    This is an admirable thing that you've kicked off here - glad to be able to contribute. If you'd like some help with the firesale, please DM me and we can set something up.

    Kind regards,
    -John.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
      Quite a few of you folks probably don't really know Bev and Rob. Sure, you've seen a few of Bev's posts and fairly quickly figured she knows what she's writing about.

      But, that's not unusual on WF. A lot of Warriors know of what they speak and a few thousand posts may not really tell you much about the person behind the keyboard

      Let me tell you a bit about the kind of folks Bev and Rob happen to be.

      A year or so back Bev and Rob had taken a contract to write a third party "user guide" for a product that was available only in the US. The seller was blocking sign-up access to non US IP's. They needed screen shots of the registration process. Hard to do from Hong Kong.

      Bev asked me if I could help them out and I quickly agreed and spent a little bit of time grabbing screen shots and sending them to them. No big deal. Bev and Rob said thanks. Good enough.

      A week or two later some money-I hadn't asked for payment, I was helping a friend-magically appeared in my PayPal account. I Skyped Bev and asked why she'd sent money. She said their client was very pleased with the work they'd done, had paid them and she felt it was only proper that she pay me for doing the screen shots.

      She wouldn't hear of me returning it. I said, "Thank you". (I would have spent three hours arguing about it otherwise.)

      Well, I didn't prevail in that situation, but I've got her now!

      Donation sent!

      Elmer
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Oliver
        $Donation sent.$

        Always a pleasure working with Bev.

        Hope all realize how much she does
        around here to protect others from
        the scammers and thieves. She has
        saved people around here thousands
        of $$$'s.

        Good luck Bev & Rob.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Hallmark
    Although I don't know Bev yet personally, in the short time I have been a member of the WF, she has been an inspiration to me through her insightful postings. My wife Nancy and I have sent her a contribution as well and wish her and Rob the very best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
    I have known Bev for a long time and she is a very good friend! You know what Bev's problem is? She has too much pride and it is very hard for her to ask for help. I'm glad Kim asked for her.

    We are going through tough economic times and a lot of people don't have much money. You can't help everyone but I always make it a point to try to help those who have made a point of helping others in the past. Bev is one of those people who has given what she head to help those who needed it.

    If you are able, I would ask you to help Bev now. If you don't have much money, maybe you could offer a product or service for those who CAN send her money. Every little bit helps. Maybe you could run a WSO and donate part of the proceeds. Someone mentioned a firesale.

    Anyway, Bev has given a lot to the people in the WF and I think it is time we gave something back to her!
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  • Profile picture of the author littlejake
    Send Bev a small gift. Wish them luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Tracey
    Warriors helped me in a big way in Oct/Nov last year
    Although I'm still busy getting on my feet again I can't do less than send a small donation

    I don't think many people realize the full extent of what Bev has done in terms of exposing scams and helping other people

    She paid it forward and now's the time for those she helped to help her back

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Nutrifitness
    hi
    She was very kind and helpful to me ...do I just send donation to her paypal account?
    Anything else I can do?
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  • Profile picture of the author holidayhabitat
    I'm new to this forum and am realy impressed with the response to this situation. I don't know Bev and nobody here knows me because this is only my 3rd day on here. But just from the response and the hopes that one day I could have the kind of respect this lady has, I also sent a little bit to her. It isnt much because I am just getting started and finances are tight, but I feel that what goes around comes around and there will probably be a day when she may be there for me. Good luck and hope everything works out
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Hi Georgette,

    Yes you can send direct to beverley clement @ gmail.com Be sure and take out the spaces.

    Folks,

    Do what you can financially and if you can't a good positive thought or a prayer will do.

    Ken Leatherman
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    Bev/Rob,

    I've sent a donation.

    ...Least I could do for all the help, support, and great advice you've given me.

    Best of luck. Damned economy sucks.

    Kind regards,
    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Ok guys

    I'm rushing out again for a meal with hubby and some friends in a few minutes, when I get back, I'll catch up with all those who have pm'd and emailed me with downloads etc.

    In the meantime I'm going to set up Bev's firesale here www.allbusinessblog.info/bev/

    Nothing there yet, (I'll work on it when I get home). I'm using the ESP script for the sale as I thought it would be easier for everyone to buy just what they want for smaller amounts rather than a bigger sum for stuff they may not need.

    If you would like to contribute to the firesale please will you email me at k.standerline at ntlworld.com (Its a pain trying to reply to pm's when you have to wait ages inbetween sending them back)

    If you want to just send me a download link for anything already uploaded, that would probably be easier than sending me the full product. I also need to know the price you are willing to sell it for and also your original sales page (and price)

    Cheers
    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman;605455C

    (Sorry Bev about not ranking you as a saint, but that would spoil my reputation ).
    Ken,

    Such accusations.

    Do you have PERSONAL knowledge that Bev isn't a saint? And if so then do tell how, exactly, you came by this personal knowledge. And does Rob know about all of this?

    Hmmm...
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    O.K., O.K.! Becky caught me on the Saint Patrol. She lost her Saint rating because of her flagrant disregard for her inability to speak American English. You would think she is from the U.K. or Wales or some place like that.

    Ken
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    P.S. Rob still doesn't know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Keyes
    Donation sent. Bev if you're reading this thread, truly hope that you and Rob get the help that you deserve.

    Best of luck,
    Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    Exactly, Alan. There are just as many Warriors (maybe even more) who tell people NOT to quit their day jobs unless they are positive they are secure. I don't remember Bev's view about this, but she's very helpful and seems to have a really good head on her shoulders. I'm thinking that she'd probably advise caution.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    Donation sent.

    Well wishes to you, Bev and Rob.

    Kim, I'll get something to you this afternoon for the firesale.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author DownloadDan
      Donation sent! This is a wonderful thing you are doing. Makes me glad to be a part of this forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Palo Coyote
      Bev and Rob,



      I know it's not much but it's the best I can do
      My gift is my song and (and some money at PayPal) and this one's for you
      It's a little bit funny Lord, this feeling inside
      I'm not one of those who can easily hide
      I don't have much money but, boy, if I did
      I'd buy a big mansion where we both could live

      I hope you don't mind, I hope you don't mind
      What I wrote down in words
      How wonderful life is when you're in the world



      (I hate scams and scamers, Bev and Rob, Please
      I hope you, I hope you go back and tell everybody
      That this is your song (this is your song)
      It may be quite, quite simple, but now that's how it's done
      I hope you don't mind, I hope you don't mind
      But I wrote down in words Lord, words
      How wonderful it is when you're in the world



      Billy Paul Version, that man can sing. Money sent, prayers said.

      "Everything is going to be OK. It's always too soon to give up, never, ever give in, just keep moving forward."

      (I LOVE spending money when it's a no-brainer)



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    • Profile picture of the author sonzy
      While I am new to the Warrior Forum and do not lurk around often, I have sent my $5 to Bev. I would also be happy to give my Cookery Book to everyone who sends their donations to Bev.

      Kim, I would be sending you an email for the Cookery Book to be put up for the firesale.

      Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
        Kim a Southerner, Elmer she is north of the Watford Gap :p
        Bev, I looked on the map. Kim is in the lower third of the UK. That makes her a "Southerner" in my book.

        Keep messin' roun', Hurlst'n, 'n' we's goin' ta have ta put y'all in the "Steel Kilt Deth Match" wit dat tailor dude!
        Paul, John and I are both too old and tired to for a "Deth Match". Is it true you and Michael Mayo are the only two people in the world with Google Alerts enabled for, "@#$&@*"?

        Kim and Bev, It's great that this is working so well.

        It's just more evidence of the caring community we have. When a real need presents itself Warriors step up!


        Elmer
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
          Elmer,

          I don't know about Paul but, does me re-posting to this thread so quickly
          give you my answer.

          Have a Great Day!
          Michael
          PS, Thanks for the kind words earlier.

          PPS, Gotta go, received another alert!
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        • Profile picture of the author DaveLloyd
          Originally Posted by Elmer Hurlstone View Post

          Bev, I looked on the map. Kim is in the lower third of the UK. That makes her a "Southerner" in my book.

          Paul, John and I are both too old and tired to for a "Deth Match". Is it true you and Michael Mayo are the only two people in the world with Google Alerts enabled for, "@#$&@*"?

          Kim and Bev, It's great that this is working so well.

          It's just more evidence of the caring community we have. When a real need presents itself Warriors step up!


          Elmer
          Hi Elmer,

          You're in dangerous territory there mate!

          Traditionally, 'North' starts at the Watford Gap in Northamptonshire (as opposed to Watford, Hertfordshire).

          Scunthorpe is in North Lincolnshire which is further north.

          I don't know what Kim's roots are, but geographically she is a Northerner.

          Dave

          Edit.
          The big bit at the top is Scotland
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Johns
        Best of luck to you Bev!

        Donation sent.

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author SarahMcHarry
          Bumping for Bev...
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Let me say this, and take it how you want it.

            As soon as I saw this thread, what was going on and what was needed, I
            knew it was a done deal.

            Why?

            3 reasons.

            1. Bev Clement has done much for this forum, right up there with several
            others whose names won't be mentioned now because this is her time.

            2. Kim Standerline, the person who started this thread, is one of the more
            respected members here for very good reasons.

            3. I knew that this community, this wonderful community, that I am
            so proud to be a member of, would come through. I had no doubt in my
            mind.

            That is what being a Warrior is all about. That's why when anybody says
            anything bad about this place, I just have to laugh.

            I have never seen this kind of support at any other forum on the Internet.

            You should all be very proud.
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            • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
              Andy,

              You sure are a nice guy! Every time I see a post from you, you are trying to help someone and I think that is just fantastic. I am hoping that I grow up to be just like you. As you can see in my picture, I have a long way to go!
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    • Profile picture of the author danielmcclure
      Hey There,

      I'll be honest I really don't know you and don't really have time to read the length of the post but it appears that you are a genuine friend of the forum and I've sent you a donation.

      I know what it's like to be stuck in "impossible" situations abroad and wish you all the best in bending reality to your will Have persistence and belief however it looks right now.

      Best Regards,

      Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author Sa61Na
    omg :/ I actually don't have free money atm, but i hope that everything will be ok !
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Saha
    Bev's posts are really inspirational.
    Wish they cope with the situation fast
    and bounce back big time.

    My little contribution made.

    Good luck!

    Stephen
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    Just popped into the forum for a quick catch up and
    spotted this thread.

    Kim,

    I'll catch you on Skype and sort out a product
    for the firesale.

    For anyone who has the slightest doubt about Bev's
    integrity please note..


    1. She didn't start this thread
    2. She's contibuted far more than most to this community

    For anyone making negative comments..

    Hope and pray you don't need help in the future, it's amazing
    how being an asshole today will impact on how people respond
    to you in the future.

    John
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      Banned
      Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post


      Hope and pray you don't need help in the future, it's amazing
      how being an asshole today will impact on how people respond
      to you in the future.

      John
      Great, now you tell me John.
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  • Profile picture of the author agni
    Sorry to hear about Bev and Rob's difficult situation. I am sending my little contribution.
    May God Almighty help them out of this difficult situation soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Cavanagh
    Kim,

    I've sent your message onto my forum (of which Bev's a member and student).

    I hope this also helps her in times of need!

    David Cavanagh
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Folks,

      Read the original post. Bev and Rob are using their online work to support themselves while they do other work they strongly believe in. A lot of people do things along these lines, and it's one of the things I like most about the net.

      Business is a way to let you focus on the other things in life that matter. It lets you choose what else you do.

      When someone in that situation spends time doing the things Bev has done for the people here, that comes out of time that could be spent making money. It has real value, to each and every one of us.

      There's no charge for access to this place, but there is a cost involved in keeping it useful. Bev pays a chunk of that cost with her time.

      Make your own decision as to whether that's something that's worth helping her out in return.


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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        That's really worth thinking about.

        It's exactly the thing that I've been adopting over the last year.

        I am now much more focused on living a valuable life than making money and I've often thought about stopping all work to just go and build schools and housing in deprived countries - I could easily end up in this same situation as Bev, not because I can't earn money but because life is about much more than that and sometimes it's just part of life's flow when you end up down an alley you never expected and have to re-evaluate your plans.

        I know it will be hard for some people to understand but Bev really is a person worth helping and the situation she's in has only come about because of her focus on helping others and making the world a better place rather than just making money and buying herself what she wants.

        Andy


        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Folks,

        Read the original post. Bev and Rob are using their online work to support themselves while they do other work they strongly believe in. A lot of people do things along these lines, and it's one of the things I like most about the net.

        Business is a way to let you focus on the other things in life that matter. It lets you choose what else you do.

        When someone in that situation spends time doing the things Bev has done for the people here, that comes out of time that could be spent making money. It has real value, to each and every one of us.

        There's no charge for access to this place, but there is a cost involved in keeping it useful. Bev pays a chunk of that cost with her time.

        Make your own decision as to whether that's something that's worth helping her out in return.


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        • Profile picture of the author JazzOscar
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

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          Bev and Rob are using their online work to support themselves while they do other work they strongly believe in. A lot of people do things along these lines, and it's one of the things I like most about the net.

          Business is a way to let you focus on the other things in life that matter. It lets you choose what else you do.
          -----
          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          That's really worth thinking about.

          It's exactly the thing that I've been adopting over the last year.

          I am now much more focused on living a valuable life than making money and I've often thought about stopping all work to just go and build schools and housing in deprived countries
          -----
          Good to here what Bev and Rob are using their online work to accomplish!

          Also good to see what you guys think about where the focus should be!

          I took part in the discussions in a thread a few weeks ago and almost got the impression that I was an idiot for not having an endless amount of money, earned by any means whatsoever, as my ultimate goal in life.
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      • Profile picture of the author Glenn Newsome
        Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

        Just popped into the forum for a quick catch up and
        spotted this thread.

        Kim,

        I'll catch you on Skype and sort out a product
        for the firesale.

        For anyone who has the slightest doubt about Bev's
        integrity please note..


        1. She didn't start this thread
        2. She's contibuted far more than most to this community

        For anyone making negative comments..

        Hope and pray you don't need help in the future, it's amazing
        how being an asshole today will impact on how people respond
        to you in the future.

        John
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Folks,

        Read the original post. Bev and Rob are using their online work to support themselves while they do other work they strongly believe in. A lot of people do things along these lines, and it's one of the things I like most about the net.

        Business is a way to let you focus on the other things in life that matter. It lets you choose what else you do.

        When someone in that situation spends time doing the things Bev has done for the people here, that comes out of time that could be spent making money. It has real value, to each and every one of us.

        There's no charge for access to this place, but there is a cost involved in keeping it useful. Bev pays a chunk of that cost with her time.

        Make your own decision as to whether that's something that's worth helping her out in return.


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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Sorry to hear about your woes, Bev. I know the contributions you have made and the help you give to others. Small donation sent.

    God bless

    Norma
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    Anyone know what a hotel costs a night wherever she is?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rachel Zaouche
      I am one of the new warriors that Bev helped to rescue and set on her feet. Not only did she help me sort out stuff on IM, but she has been a real friend on the personal side too helping me to sort my head out over mum's cancer.

      Bev is a grafter - she works very hard and puts out quality stuff and she gives huge amounts back to this community. She may ward off scam artists but I think she spends even more time behind the scenes helping people who have got lost like I did.


      Kim - please don't worry about sending me anything but thank you for your generous offer and thank you for putting this thread together.

      Bev has given me 100000 times more than I can pay her.



      Take care

      Rach
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      About $60 Jeremy

      Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

      Anyone know what a hotel costs a night wherever she is?
      I'm back from my meal (full of steak dinner and 3 glasses of wine) so will now start answering pm's and emails. If you haven't heard from me within the next few hours with your downloads etc. please let me know

      Also going to start work on the firesale site if you want to send anything. I know we can make this go with a bang

      BTW I forgot to say, please let me know if you want to limit the amounts of your products for the firesale

      Cheers
      Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    A little cash and good wishes on its way.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author esr
    Donation sent. I wish it could have been more. Thanks for posting this, Kim. Feels good to help someone. =)
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    When will the firesale be up?

    I do not see any negative comments here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
    I used to live in China for several years and have spent time in Hong Kong too. Hong Kong is MUCH more expensive to live in.

    If you're struggling and need to get some breathing space for cash if you can organize a Chinese Visa it could be really good to go across the border and live in China for a period of time.

    It would make it far more economical. I personally enjoy China better than Hong Kong also.

    However, if you can't get a Visa then seriously consider going to Taiwan. I found it to be brilliant and UK Passport Holders don't need a Visa for at least 30 days. It is much cheaper than Hong Kong and is a great mix of China/Japan/America. I'd highly recommend it.

    Anyway there are two solutions which could be part of your strategy to work through this difficult time for you.

    Kenneth
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Hi Ken

      I think they are hoping to go back to China for a while if they can so they can get a breathing space.

      Regards
      Kim

      Originally Posted by Kenneth Rearden View Post

      I used to live in China for several years and have spent time in Hong Kong too. Hong Kong is MUCH more expensive to live in.

      If you're struggling and need to get some breathing space for cash if you can organize a Chinese Visa it could be really good to go across the border and live in China for a period of time.

      It would make it far more economical. I personally enjoy China better than Hong Kong also.

      However, if you can't get a Visa then seriously consider going to Taiwan. I found it to be brilliant and UK Passport Holders don't need a Visa for at least 30 days. It is much cheaper than Hong Kong and is a great mix of China/Japan/America. I'd highly recommend it.

      Anyway there are two solutions which could be part of your strategy to work through this difficult time for you.

      Kenneth
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    Donation sent! :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
      I'm just waking up here in Hong Kong, and I want to say thank you to everybody.

      I will be sending an email to everybody, please be patient as I have so many emails waiting for me.

      Update raised $1,300
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      • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
        Let me answer some of the questions.

        Jeremy hotels here start around $60 a night but on a weekend it is normally around $100. Most will charge an additional amount of $20 a night for internet.

        Kenneth, one of the other problems we have with China is all our sites are blocked now. We visited there last year, and suddenly no sites, no email so that isn't a long term solution.

        Hadn't thought about Taiwan, but we are looking at various options.

        For those who have made comments, let me give some answers.

        We went to China as volunteers, we then went online to earn our own income.

        In China the income we needed was low, but we went to Hong Kong, because we didn't need a visa for there, it was cheap to go to from China as we didn't have any spare income to fly back to the UK. But, even if we went back to the UK we wouldn't have anywhere to live so would be in a similar position.

        Our costs here are massive compared to China, and when you have to pay out an additional $100 a day then you don't get the opportunity to put money in the bank to pay for a deposit.

        The average deposit is around US$2,000 plus the 1st month rent, plus the deposit for utilities, plus the deposit for the internet.

        Since Feb we have been living in hotels and that has been taking ever single dollar we have earned. Because we have been spending all we have, we have ended up in a catch-22 situation, where we can't leave HK because of no extra money to do that, but we can't afford to stay either.

        I have never suggested to anyone that they give up their job to get into internet marketing.

        Our biggest problem is we are not super salespeople. When people ask for help we will automatically help them, giving them hours of our time, and never thinking of asking for money in return.

        Recently I wrote a short report, and it contains a secret. So far only 3 people said they knew it. Now a lot of people would sell it even for $5, but to me it was so short I couldn't justify selling something so simple.

        Again, thank you all for everything you are/have done we really appreciate it all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Oh my word

    How well are we doing you fabulous people.

    I'm about to add products to the firesale now here at www.allbusinessblog.info/bev/ if anyone else wishes to contribute

    Cheers
    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    Wow, not bad for a couple hours!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    After the support I received for my Juvenile Diabetes walk...how could I turn away? Donation sent. Good luck guys. Hope this helps you get out of that catch 22 you're in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    The firesale is now up and running (such as it is) and already making sales. www.allbusinessblog.info/bev/

    It's getting late here in the UK, but I will be adding a lot more to it tomorrow, please let me have all contributions to k.standerline (at) ntlworld.com

    Thanks
    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    I've run out of thank you on the forum for today.

    We can't express what we are feeling at the moment, you don't know what it means to us, to have this extra amount which will enable us to move forward.

    Again thank you all again.

    Rob & Bev
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      I've run out of thank you on the forum for today.

      We can't express what we are feeling at the moment, you don't know what it means to us, to have this extra amount which will enable us to move forward.

      Again thank you all again.

      Rob & Bev
      Bev, we should be thanking YOU for all you've done for this forum uncovering
      scams and scammers. You're always had our best interests at heart and for
      that we will always be grateful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Oliver
        Time for a ride to the top again.

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        • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
          I just sent in a donation. Although I don't know Bev personally I know that she means a lot to this forum, and the posts of hers that I have read are top notch. She puts in so much time and effort into everything she does. I am so thankful that I can help her some. God Bless you Bev, and Kim thank you for doing such an awesome thing! This forum is really a family and a community, wow, that is awesome that over $1,300 has already been raised!
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  • Profile picture of the author Anne-Marie B
    Donation Sent.

    Best of Luck!

    Anne-Marie
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    A quick update, the amount received now is over $1600.

    I think I need to borrow Paul Myers brain, because I am out of words at the moment, so thank you again
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  • Profile picture of the author penrhyn
    Just sent a donation, Bev you look after yourself girl. I hope you are ok,and you get yourselves sorted out.

    Just make sure you are safe,thinking about you.

    Robert.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony O
    Greetings,

    I've never met Rob and Bev but I'm reading good things about them.

    So, thanks to both of them, I'm writing my 1st post on the forum. My wanting to help them a little inspired me to do that which can be done when it can be done.

    And Kim, what a champion you are to too.

    Is it really so rare to be amounst people who dare to care?

    Rob and Bev, all the very, very best for the future.

    Tony O

    PS. I have sent you a little something.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Welcome to the forum Tony.

      I just got up guys (on my first cup of tea of the day) and seeing that we're up to $1600. That is truly awesome (thank you so much)

      I'm going to be posting stuff to the fire sale www.allbusinessblog.info/bev/ on and off during the day as folks send it in.

      I'll be about on and off during the day I need to go do some shopping, (and hubby has decided he wants a new car so I need to go buy one with him so I ensure he gets the one he wants) So if you email, pm me or whatever please bear with me if I'm a while getting back to you

      Cheers
      Kim

      Originally Posted by Tony O View Post

      Greetings,

      I've never met Rob and Bev but I'm reading good things about them.

      So, thanks to both of them, I'm writing my 1st post on the forum. My wanting to help them a little inspired me to do that which can be done when it can be done.

      And Kim, what a champion you are to too.

      Is it really so rare to be amounst people who dare to care?

      Rob and Bev, all the very, very best for the future.

      Tony O

      PS. I have sent you a little something.
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    • Profile picture of the author countonuspr
      Tony,

      What a great first post! That is awesome!

      Paul

      Originally Posted by Tony O View Post

      Greetings,

      I've never met Rob and Bev but I'm reading good things about them.

      So, thanks to both of them, I'm writing my 1st post on the forum. My wanting to help them a little inspired me to do that which can be done when it can be done.

      And Kim, what a champion you are to too.

      Is it really so rare to be amounst people who dare to care?

      Rob and Bev, all the very, very best for the future.

      Tony O

      PS. I have sent you a little something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Duxbury
    Can I encourage people to use Twitter to promote the Firesale. Here's what I just tweeted:

    Here's a way to help someone who gives a lot of help to a lot of people Bev's Firesale

    and will blog about it later

    Take care

    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Super idea Paul, I'll do the same

      I'm also going to send out to my list later when I have some more stuff to put on there. Be a super idea if others could do the same. (Gimme chance to add stuff tho lol)

      BTW If you have sales pages, I am linking to them, and if you don't have a sign up feature on there to increase your list (why haven't you).

      Cheers
      Kim

      Originally Posted by Paul Duxbury View Post

      Can I encourage people to use Twitter to promote the Firesale. Here's what I just tweeted:

      Here's a way to help someone who gives a lot of help to a lot of people Bev's Firesale

      and will blog about it later

      Take care

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Sent a little something and will buy some stuff because Bev is cool.

    Jeffery 100% :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    I don't know this lady (Bev), but I have read some of her stuff just now and she deserves our help.

    There are many causes these days, some more worthy than others. There are also many scammers around looking for a quick payout, so sometimes we get suspicious.

    However, it is a privilege to be a member of this forum and to see so many people rallying round to help a valuable member of the forum.

    Money is important, especially in this modern world, but it is not the most important thing by far.

    A friend of mine unexpectedly died last week and he was worth a few million dollars but it counts for little now. Thankfully he lived a very full life and actually spent at least 50 years of his live helping others and he will be greatly missed.

    So anyone who helps others such as Bev, is a very valuable person, and sometimes they need help themselves at certain times.

    A valuable skill to have and develop is the skill of recognising worthwhile causes and when help is needed and actually doing something to help.

    So with that said, I have just made a little donation by buying something on Kim's firesale link mentioned in this thread.

    Well done to Kim too for helping out her friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Woodside
    I've been away from the forum for awhile doing other things in my life, and what a shock to find out this information. They don't come much better than Bev!

    She's always been there for me! Donation Sent!
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    • Profile picture of the author DaveLloyd
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      An update $2781.27

      I have no words to say, which isn't good for a writer
      Great news Bev!

      You've earned the loyal support of many Warriors.

      We're all hoping that your current problem will soon be a distant memory.

      In this economic climate, people all over the world are suddenly finding themselves in uncharted waters. It is an unpleasant sign of the times.

      Let's hope the world economies will start to pick up soon!

      Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      An update $2781.27

      I have no words to say, which isn't good for a writer
      While I'm never at a loss for words (terminal diarrhea of the mouth) I can
      sure understand how you must feel.

      Folks...keep it coming.

      Maybe we can get Bev back to England someday.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        While I'm never at a loss for words (terminal diarrhea of the mouth) I can
        sure understand how you must feel.

        Folks...keep it coming.

        Maybe we can get Bev back to England someday.
        I'll second that Steven, but if we want to encourage Bev back to the UK make it Wales, not England, I think she'll agree there's a difference!!

        Peter
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        • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
          Originally Posted by Peter Bestel View Post

          I'll second that Steven, but if we want to encourage Bev back to the UK make it Wales, not England, I think she'll agree there's a difference!!

          Peter
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Shorey
    Donation sent.

    I hope you get everything worked out soon. With Warrior help, I'm sure you will.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Newsome
    Kim,
    Dang I am always late to the party. Just saw the posting. Went to the firesale site and purchased immediately.
    Hang in there Rob and Bev!
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  • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
    Bev & Rob,

    You guys are a blessing to this forum. Sending thanks your way.

    Grant
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  • I am a very new member of this forum but Bev and I follow each other on Twitter. I do not as yet have a PayPal account and wonder if would it be in order for me to send some money via my daughter's PayPal account?
    A bit of a silly question I have sent a donation via my daughter's PayPal.
    I hope that when all the donations are added together there is more than the $5,000 needed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Oh my goodness,

      I just got back from our car buying expedition to find our total has risen so much more. (Totally speechless how well we've done within a 24 hour period).

      Just going to grab some lunch, then I'll be adding more to the firesale. Thanks to those who have bought so far and those who have contributed.

      I'm going to add to the sale as you send it in, so if you want to contribute, just send me your links etc.

      If you have a list, it would be super if you can direct them to the sale.

      Cheers
      Kim



      Originally Posted by Dennis Hollinghurst View Post

      I am a very new member of this forum but Bev and I follow each other on Twitter. I do not as yet have a PayPal account and wonder if would it be in order for me to send some money via my daughter's PayPal account?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kalidasa
    How wonderful to see such an outpouring for someone who truly deserves it. I got my donation in early, really great to see how many people are jumping in. I know we all appreciate how much Bev has given to this forum, and now I find that she makes a habit of it! I'd give more if I could.
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    Bumpidy, bump, bump, bump...
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane N
    Donation sent, it's not much but it should certainly help.

    I am very glad to be able to pay Bev back for all the dedication she has shown to the Warrior Forum and it's members.

    I hope you guys get everything sorted out real soon.

    Best,
    Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Bev has done a lot of work she believes in, in HK. And they don't get paid for this type of work. Not monetarily anyway, I think they get paid emotionally by helping people. So I think this is a way of helping her out for all the work she and Rob have done in China and HK.

    Help out others, and others will help you out.

    I keep telling her to get on a plane and come stay with me :p

    Some people here are amazing. I'm glad so much has been raised in such little time. Now if they can just find a place to live that isn't so expensive!
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  • Profile picture of the author graphicsgenie
    I have been trying to think of a nice way to launch our new ecover minisite service, Graphics Genie - Real Ecovers -

    Do you think anyone would go for this,

    Send out a mail to a list to create a 'real ecover' set and minisite for $297, would be willing to donate $100 to Bev's cause for every $297. Bev has helped me before and I'd like to give back.

    I hope this doesnt seem self promotional, as it isnt, just a way I can help to contribute.

    If anyone would be interested in mailing out, send me a PM.

    Either way, my love goes out to Bev and Rob.

    Darren
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  • Profile picture of the author Oosha
    Donation sent. It's not much but I hope it helps.

    Bev, I've always admired you and hope things get back to normal soon.

    All the best!

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  • Profile picture of the author Kate Carpenter
    Bev & Rob's situation has haunted me since yesterday when Kim posted. It's heartwarming to seem the community come to the aid of a well loved and admired member. I wish I had even a dollar to donate, but I don't. So, instead, I will make a suggestion I hope you all take up.
    It seems to me that Bev & Rob will continue to need more funds in HK than they did in China. What we're (you) doing now only is a temporary fix. What needs to be done, if Warriors can, is unite your special skills and create a stream of automated income for Bev & Rob. Someone picks a niche, buys a domain. Someone hosts it. Someone does the copy/finds affiliate products. Another does the SEO and/or social bookmarks. You get the idea. Or maybe take one of Bev's existing blogs or sites and increase traffic to it, make it more automated to consistently generate income.
    This is just a thought, since I can't donate. I know, being on dial up with an old Win98 system, this type of Warrior assistance would be welcome and a blessing in my own IM efforts to help my friends, so I'm sure Bev & Rob would welcome it, too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Hi Kate

      Thanks for the super suggestions though I'm sure Bev and Rob are not planning on staying in Hong Kong, it's nice to know that we're giving them the chance to take a breather and review the options they do have.

      I'm still adding more to the firesale guys www.allbusinessblog.info/bev/ if you have sent me a product and I haven't added it please let me know. It's also never to late to send something over. We're making some pretty decent sales BTW

      Cheers
      Kim

      Originally Posted by Kate Carpenter View Post

      Bev & Rob's situation has haunted me since yesterday when Kim posted. It's heartwarming to seem the community come to the aid of a well loved and admired member. I wish I had even a dollar to donate, but I don't. So, instead, I will make a suggestion I hope you all take up.
      It seems to me that Bev & Rob will continue to need more funds in HK than they did in China. What we're (you) doing now only is a temporary fix. What needs to be done, if Warriors can, is unite your special skills and create a stream of automated income for Bev & Rob. Someone picks a niche, buys a domain. Someone hosts it. Someone does the copy/finds affiliate products. Another does the SEO and/or social bookmarks. You get the idea. Or maybe take one of Bev's existing blogs or sites and increase traffic to it, make it more automated to consistently generate income.
      This is just a thought, since I can't donate. I know, being on dial up with an old Win98 system, this type of Warrior assistance would be welcome and a blessing in my own IM efforts to help my friends, so I'm sure Bev & Rob would welcome it, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I always like to know how well stuff is doing in this type of scenerio, I just thought I'd let everyone know the firesale has raised $205 so far, thanks everyone who have bought and contributed so far. www.allbusinessblog.info/bev

    I'm just going to add a few more thingies to it, then I'm going to email my list. so if there is anything in there you fancy then I suggest you get em as some are limited.

    Cheers
    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    Twenty five bucks sent. Kim, this was a gift, so I
    don't need a copy of your excellent cart software.

    Glenn
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Donation sent to the WF's "Mary Poppins" from me and Vegas Vince (cuz he hates Paypal).

    Best wishes to both you and Rob.

    And as always it is great to see how the WF rallies to a warrior or warriors in need. For all you have done for the WF and everyone we both hope you overcome this hurdle and best wishes for the future.

    Sylvia and Vince.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Cheesman
    To help out I will give 5 people lifetime free access to my new membership I am about to launch which will be $37.00 per month...

    So Kim the next 5 to donate $10.00 or more please send me their names so I can set them up with access..

    Dennis
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    Donation sent

    People helping people...it's a beautiful thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelmac
    Hey Bev and Rob,

    Really sorry to hear about your predictament but you are amongst friends and we will help you get sorted out. I owe you much over my last couple of years in IM...thank you!

    Gift offered to help you both out.

    Your friend,

    Michael

    PS This is a serious matter involving real people so a little respect is in order!
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Jackson
    Well deserved funds sent. Thanks for allowing us to participate Kim.

    No need to send anything; just happy to help.

    Adam
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  • Profile picture of the author PRandContent
    Bev has shared great insights and tips and I was one of those who benefited from those inspiring words.

    Donation sent.

    ~ Irene
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Proceeds from the firesale are up to $280 so far which is pretty good

    I would imagine Bev will be coming online as soon as she gets a chance to give us all an update on how well its all done so far. I know she's absolutely stunned at all the support she's had from everyone. (Doesn't surprise me in the least lol knowing the Warriors as I do)

    Thanks again folks
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    Kim,
    Sorry I'm late for the show but I'd like to help Bev out by donating a complete article marketing package for the firesale which includes the following:

    1 - My 2008 System Seminar Article Marketing presentation

    2 - My Total Article Marketing Domination Report

    3 - My Article Marketing Answers 12 month long product

    I will donate 20 copies of the entire package (meaning all 3 products bundled together as 1 to make the complete package) and it can be priced at $27 for all 3 products.

    Also regular cash donation will be sent shortly.

    Bev has helped my online business in more ways then I can count and it's the least I could do for this warrior leader!!!!

    Respectfully,
    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      warrior leader

      Respectfully,
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      Tim,

      That's the best description of Bev that I've heard so far...!

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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Thanks Tim

      I'm sorting them out now

      Cheers
      Kim

      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      Kim,
      Sorry I'm late for the show but I'd like to help Bev out by donating a complete article marketing package for the firesale which includes the following:

      1 - My 2008 System Seminar Article Marketing presentation

      2 - My Total Article Marketing Domination Report

      3 - My Article Marketing Answers 12 month long product

      I will donate 20 copies of the entire package (meaning all 3 products bundled together as 1 to make the complete package) and it can be priced at $27 for all 3 products.

      Also regular cash donation will be sent shortly.

      Bev has helped my online business in more ways then I can count and it's the least I could do for this warrior leader!!!!

      Respectfully,
      Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author wyvern
    Hi Kim,

    Purchased a couple of things from the fire sale, including the EasySellerPro. I hope that everything will work out well for Bev.

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  • Profile picture of the author tadpole
    Donation in the works.

    Sorry I can't do more.

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    payment sent... hope it helps
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    • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
      Dear @#$&@*,

      I now feel like 102 years old...lol

      MR.Mayo??? You can call me Mike, Michael, @#$&@* or what ever but
      Please leave the MR out of it! ...lol
      Kim is obviously a very nice, respectful lady .

      She is, based on her manners, likely from SOUTHERN England.

      If you don't watch out she'll start calling you, "Sir."

      This is a wonderful and totally selfless thing she's doing.

      I recall when you were faced with temporary storm-related difficulties and the way you handled that situation.

      You, Sir, are a true gentleman!

      Regards,

      Elmer
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        Elmer,
        Dear @#$&@*,
        Dang, bo-oy. I thought you was talkin' ta me!

        Y'all ought not be messin' wit dat Mayo dude. 'N' Ms Out-standerline's put herseff in the catbird's seat fer a day 'r two, eh?

        Keep messin' roun', Hurlst'n, 'n' we's goin' ta have ta put y'all in the "Steel Kilt Deth Match" wit dat tailor dude!


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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Kim a Southerner, Elmer she is north of the Watford Gap :p

    I'm trying to answer all the emails at the moment, and you will hear from me soon, please be patient.

    Update, well I'm not totally sure of the figure as it keeps changing, but it is over $3,500 at the moment, and we are so thankful to all.

    Chris you are right the hotels do cost more, it is because we pay in HK$'s and my brain totally lost the conversion rates. I tend to think from HK$ to GBP not US$.

    Our banks are either in HK or in the UK, our paypal account is in the UK, and that means all the money is converted to GBP. The exchange rate was GBP1 = HK$15 but now it is HK$10.

    Also until now we have also had to pay for internet each day, and only one of us has been able to get online.

    The hotel we are in now has wireless which is included in the room rate and both of us can get online.

    I need to explain something as well. Our online work has supported us in China and has also supported us here in Hong Kong. The problem arose when we had to leave the place we were staying and had to find the money for a deposit for another place.

    The income we have coming in through our products, ghostwriting, affiliate marketing is normally enough to live on. Obviously with the exchange rate at the moment it means our money doesn't go so far.

    However, the extras like either a deposit for an apartment here or a flight to another place in Asia or back to England (Peter we were in West Sussex when we left) was the problem trying to earn not only the extra because of the exchange rate but also the extra to pay for these was the problem.

    Since we have been in a hotel, it meant our expenses were higher, and so getting out of the catch 22 situation was not happening.

    But, the warriors have been brilliant and the money sent will enable us to look at the options and see what we do next.

    We have work coming through and that will continue to enable us to work online.

    We have a new website which is selling PLR and we hope that will also bring in more.

    We are working on a course which we will sell.

    We are looking at the options, and seeing where we should be living.

    Not sure if any of that makes sense.

    Rob & Bev
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  • Profile picture of the author simba999
    I donated too...hope all works out super well for her! Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    I've already sent Bev the whole profit from the initial few sales from my WSO, and will also send 10% of the sales that I receive by the end of this week.

    -John.
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  • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
    Donation sent. I hope all is back on track soon. I know being stuck in a pinch stinks. The true love and power of this forum and fellow Warriors is priceless. Thank you Kim, Bev and everyone else for being a part of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author David McGimpsey
    Hi Kim,

    Thanks for organising this. Donation sent.

    David
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  • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
    In case you missed it, here the link to the firesale again:
    Bev's Firesale

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  • Profile picture of the author oneempowered
    Paypal sent.
    Prayers ongoing.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Cavanagh
    Bev,

    Just sent you a few dollars to help you out

    Hope you and Rob are okay!

    David

    PS... Got a huge home in Thailand if you need - you know that!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
    Hi Kim,

    I think it's great to help each other when we can and when others need it. So, I am donating my time and skills to write sales copy for warriors who need it. Warriors who get this service can then send Kim/Bev any amount you have.

    Naturally only a limited few will get this but I'm hoping it's enough to help Bev out even more, please PM me for details, I have not spoken to Kim about this, and will email her now, just thought I'd add my 2 cents to the help line.

    Bev, I wish you the best of luck and keep being strong, you're an inspiration to many.

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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Thank you all, I keep thinking I am getting to the end of answering emails and more keep coming in.

    I want to explain something which I have been asked about.

    People when they donated had a gmail account to send money to, that is my gmail account. Kim when she was setting up the firesale asked if we had another email linked to our paypal account. We do and that is our affiliate website.

    Both emails are mine and they are both linked to the same paypal account.

    Rather than sound like a cracked record I will say

    Diolch

    Rob & Bev
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    • Profile picture of the author Mountainbird
      Just sent a small donation. Unfortunately we are broke so the donation is only $5.

      Greetings from Germany
      and best regards
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Bev and Rob visited me 18 months ago when I was in a horrible mental state because of a unexpected family problem. At that time, I had to seek both psychiatric and psychological help. They made that visit on purpose to counsel me and I was highly appreciative of that.

    The day to day living costs in Hong Kong can be pretty low provided that housing is taken off the equation. I find the horror stories about Hong Kong in travel and expatriate magazines quite untrue and amazing.

    What I am worried about that besides around 3 months' deposit plus agent fees (if any), the contracts here are "inflexible" for the first year. That means if the tennant decides to leave within the first year, he/she is liable to pay for the whole year's rent.

    One possibility is that across the border in Shenzhen, it may be possible to connect directly to a an ISP in Hong Kong via mobile broadband. Hong Kong island is very expensive, but there are cheaper accommodation in Kowloon and the New Territories. Another possibility is Macau but it is not to everybody's taste as it is quite a seedy place. I am checking with my friends at the moment to see whether there are any other reasonable options.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Good gracious

    I've just got back in from a day doing boring stuff like counting beds etc to find the firesale has raised aprox $685 so far (give or take a dollar or so).

    Thats absolutely fantastic folks.

    Just going to start dinner, then I'll spend a few hours later adding everything else folks have been kind enough to donate

    Cheers
    Kim
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    • Profile picture of the author Mountainbird
      Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

      ...to find the firesale has raised aprox $685 so far...
      We spent $57,88 USD today on firesale (Mediakomplett).
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    Ethical bump (please forgive me, Warriors)...



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    Is it time for the 5PM EDT bump yet?

    Be Well!
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      5 PM Central Ethical Bump
      Cool.

      Looks like I coined a new phrase - "Ethical Bump"

      ...and, wouldn'tcha know...there goes another one!

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      • Profile picture of the author glchandler
        Just sent in $5.00...knowing that it cannot possibly be "ENOUGH" to cover any amount of what Bev has contributed through this forum. However my bank account passed zero quite a few months ago so I dug as deep as I could right not!

        If this immediate need is not met in next day or two I will find more and pray that others will do the same!

        Knowing that while it is the thought that counts it is not always easy to convince the creditors of that!

        Bev...thanks for the help I have received through your posts and other ways and keep it up.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
          Gordon,

          A truly inspirational and selfless reply.

          Thanks,
          Steve

          Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

          Just sent in $5.00...knowing that it cannot possibly be "ENOUGH" to cover any amount of what Bev has contributed through this forum. However my bank account passed zero quite a few months ago so I dug as deep as I could right not!

          If this immediate need is not met in next day or two I will find more and pray that others will do the same!

          Knowing that while it is the thought that counts it is not always easy to convince the creditors of that!

          Bev...thanks for the help I have received through your posts and other ways and keep it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChristineCobb
    I'm relatively new to the forum so I don't know Bev & Rob, but I'm glad to be able to help out. Donation sent. Seeing all the support they are getting makes me glad I've joined this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Derek thanks for the comments, we have been looking in NT for places. There were 2 areas in the NT we were looking at so we based our figures on both those areas.

    HK Island you can get a 250 sq ft studio for around US$1000+ a month
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      You're all really wonderful, thank you very much

      I think I have everything up on the firesale (except for a few odds and ends I'm waiting on folks for) if I've missed you out, my apologies and please let me know.

      Originally Posted by Chris 50 View Post

      i dnt even know her but i helped i gave my donation about two days ago hope the best for her
      I'm hitting the sack now, it's late here in the UK so goodnight everyone I'll catch up with the progress report Bev will be giving in the morning

      Regards
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      • Profile picture of the author Palo Coyote

        I know it's not much
        It's the best I can do
        I hope you understand
        We all really love you

        SHAMELESS BUMP with music.
        C'mon people now
        Smile on your brother
        Everybody get togteher now
        And love one another right now

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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Hi Bev, Hi Kim!

    I can't believe I missed this thread. Bev, I know you for a long time, sorry about the situation you have there. I am running two wsos right now. I can add them to the firesale, let me know how to do that. The first is the blog flipping ebook, the second is the monthly niche and content membership. I can give away a few copies of each for a few hundred dollars. PM me...

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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      This thread alone should speak for Bev's reputation here. Her detective skills are second to none and she's given a lot to this community. Paypal love is a no-brainer here. I wish you the best.

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  • Profile picture of the author sevenish
    I missed it too somehow. I'm going to read up and participate.

    Edit: Kim, thanks for making it so easy!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Palo thanks for the song, it was even better to hear the music with it, you may be new to the warrior forum, but you have like many others shown what a real warrior is like

    I don't want to start thanking people, because I will miss some out, and don't want to offend anyone.

    But I know Gordon's situation, so a huge thank you to you and your wife. I will be sending you an email shortly.

    I have a heap of emails that I need to send out to everybody, and I thank you all for your patience

    An update on the total given by the wonderful warriors.

    Drum roll please

    $4,989.96

    I am still lost for words, which as I need to do some writing isn't a good thing

    Thanks Kim for organising this, if you saw the skype messages you would know that Rob & I really didn't want to let people know.

    As far as the long term, we have our online business, we are developing some new areas which will give us more of a passive income. We have an income from our online work which will be enough to live on.

    What this extra money will do is this.

    1) Allow us to go back to China and get our belongings that we have left with friends.

    2) Look at options for the future, which will include a trip back to the UK to visit my mother. The last time we were back there was in Sept 06.

    3) Have some breathing space.

    4) Not have to be so concerned that because of us having everything go to our UK account we don't have to earn 50% more to get the same income to spend.

    5) Most importantly (should have been No 1) shown us what wonderful friends we have here on the warrior forum.

    Kim asked me what would make a difference and she asked if $5K would do that. I said yes, but hadn't even thought about a figure. To be truthful, anything would have made a difference, because it would start to give us the options which we said.

    Some of you have said it's only $5, but I wanted to come and kick you in the backside, because it isn't ONLY anything. It was something you gave which made the difference. It wasn't the amount, but the heart behind the giving. $5, $10, $50 or $1,000 it is the people who gave and the amount was secondary. I hope that comes across the way I mean it to come across.

    I also know another well loved warrior is having a problem. He had an unexpected bill come in. I also know he doesn't want people to know what that is, so I am saying that Mr X also has a financial problem.

    I have emailed him, so get and read your email today

    Anything else received I will be sending him something from it, I hope you don't mind me doing this, if you do, let me know and I won't send him it from your gift.

    Again thank you, diolch for your prayers, support, friendship, gifts and everything else that I have forgotten to include

    Rob & Bev
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      • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
        I thank you for your comments, because I didn't realise I hadn't explained what the money meant clearly.

        I hope I didn't play on people's sympathy, because I didn't want this to be made public to start with. Kim did a lot of persuading for us to say yes to this being said.

        We are not planning on going to the UK for a holiday as you have suggested. Actually we have no relative in the UK that could set up a computer for my mother. We contact her via email, sending them via a friend. We also telephone and send mail to her.

        We have said all the time, that we are looking at an alternative to HK because of the expense of it. But, we were stuck in that we didn't have enough to stay and rent a place (deposit not the monthly rental income) and we didn't have enough to leave (airfare to another country).

        Breathing space doesn't mean we are going to use the money given by our friends to sit around and do nothing. It means exactly that, enough to give us space to look at the situation, and go to a cheaper place to live and work if that is the best option.

        We have a number of things where we have been asked to do some work, and one would mean going to the UK. That would be for work, and sorting out things for us moving forward. It might mean moving to the UK, the breathing space will let us look at that option. But, if we do go to the UK then we would be able to visit my mother. It was never suggested or thought by us that we would go to the UK for a holiday using the money given.

        We have said all the time, that we were looking at options. Someone yesterday asked if we had looked at Thailand as an option, it is on the list because everything is on the list at the moment. Someone else suggested Taiwan which we hadn't considered but will look at it.

        But to suggest that we have asked for money, and want to go and have a holiday is so far from the truth that I'm amazed at the suggestion. Maybe, it is my fault for not explaining it clearly.

        We have been so overwhelmed with what has happened, that we haven't been able to say exactly what it means and how it will help.

        We continue to work using the internet for our income, but this has given us what was becoming impossible to do for ourselves.
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        • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          We are not planning on going to the UK for a holiday as you have suggested. Actually we have no relative in the UK that could set up a computer for my mother. We contact her via email, sending them via a friend. We also telephone and send mail to her.
          Hey Bev,

          2 Things.

          1 - I won't be back to the UK until the end of April but if you like - I would be happy to provide your mother with a laptop and get her up and running with skype and a webcam.

          2 - If you do come over to the UK - I'm more than happy to put you up for as long as you need while you get things worked out. I have a 4 bedroom house and live in it alone and travel a lot so I could easily cope with you and your husband staying for a while.

          Regards,

          Andy
          p.s Yes I am serious.
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        • Profile picture of the author Charles E. White
          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          I thank you for your comments, because I didn't realise I hadn't explained what the money meant clearly.

          I hope I didn't play on people's sympathy, because I didn't want this to be made public to start with. Kim did a lot of persuading for us to say yes to this being said.

          We are not planning on going to the UK for a holiday as you have suggested. Actually we have no relative in the UK that could set up a computer for my mother. We contact her via email, sending them via a friend. We also telephone and send mail to her.

          We have said all the time, that we are looking at an alternative to HK because of the expense of it. But, we were stuck in that we didn't have enough to stay and rent a place (deposit not the monthly rental income) and we didn't have enough to leave (airfare to another country).

          Breathing space doesn't mean we are going to use the money given by our friends to sit around and do nothing. It means exactly that, enough to give us space to look at the situation, and go to a cheaper place to live and work if that is the best option.

          We have a number of things where we have been asked to do some work, and one would mean going to the UK. That would be for work, and sorting out things for us moving forward. It might mean moving to the UK, the breathing space will let us look at that option. But, if we do go to the UK then we would be able to visit my mother. It was never suggested or thought by us that we would go to the UK for a holiday using the money given.

          We have said all the time, that we were looking at options. Someone yesterday asked if we had looked at Thailand as an option, it is on the list because everything is on the list at the moment. Someone else suggested Taiwan which we hadn't considered but will look at it.

          But to suggest that we have asked for money, and want to go and have a holiday is so far from the truth that I'm amazed at the suggestion. Maybe, it is my fault for not explaining it clearly.

          We have been so overwhelmed with what has happened, that we haven't been able to say exactly what it means and how it will help.

          We continue to work using the internet for our income, but this has given us what was becoming impossible to do for ourselves.
          Bev, I really doubt that most of us cares what you do with the money, we just know you needed some help and did what we could. How you use that money is your business and only your business.

          I seen on your FaceBook where you said you were "overwhelmed by the support of your friends". As I stated there......your friends were overwhelmed by you a long time ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Bev and Rob,
    I am so glad to hear you reached your goal. And it really is amazing the way the warriors come together to help those in need. And as soon as I have a few extra dollars I will send it your way to pass along to Mr.X in times like these seeing people band together is wonderful.

    To EVERY warriors success in 2009,
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  • Profile picture of the author ECS Dave
    Yay!

    Only three letters that express a huge sentiment,
    and feeling of relief for Bev and Rob...

    It's great to see that what was a difficult problem,
    was made easy by everyone getting involved and
    helping out as they could!

    Be Well!
    ECS Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    Bev,

    This is great news!

    I find it truly uplifting that in spite of everybody's circumstances, people are still able to rally round and make such a difference in your life. God is truly looking out for you!

    There's more to come from me, depending how my WSO runs this week, so keep on eye on your inbox!

    Kind regards,
    -John.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    It's fantastic that we have reached our goal in a matter of a few days, thank you everyone. I'll leave the firesale up and Tommy if you want to pm me with details, that would be great

    Toddling off to count more beds now

    Regards
    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard A.Cox
    How did I miss this post for so long.

    I don't know Bev personally, but have read enough of her posts to know that shes a 'jolly good egg' as us Brits sometimes say.

    Donation en route
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  • Profile picture of the author Chuck Evans
    Donation sent to Bev's paypal address. Bev, let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

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  • Profile picture of the author abelacts
    Sorry to hear about Bev's situation and I'm so impressed with the generosity of warriors.

    I'd like to contribute some products to the firesale to do my bit.

    Hang in there, Bev.
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    • Profile picture of the author DiamondPed
      Hi Bev & Rob,

      I know that you didn't want this publicised, but I am very glad that Kim has started this thread for you.

      It has given many Warriors on this Forum a chance to "pay you back" for all your help & kind deeds, or "Pay it Forward" as you did to me many months ago as I was starting out.

      Of course it seems typical of your very selfless attitude, that despite being in a "spot" yourselves, you are both thinking of how you can help others in need.


      Truly remarkable people, touching many, many others lives worldwide ..... (& Scotland )


      Glad that you are getting some breathing space to (probably) seek out the next "challenge" LOL.

      Thanks again,

      PeterC.
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    St. Patty's
    Cheer

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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Flask
      Kim & Bev,

      Just added a few more items to my arsenal
      from the Fire Sale.

      You are in my prayers, and I hope everything
      is going well for you and your husband now Bev.

      It's a wonderful feeling to know that this community
      is here for you and others as well when they really
      need it.

      I'm blessed to be a part of it and to see the outpouring
      of support that it becoming the norm here.

      All my best to you,

      Kevin
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Oliver
        Here's a ride to the front again.

        Bump.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
      Originally Posted by netmalls View Post

      St. Patty's
      Cheer

      Is that what you look like when you've had too much green beer?



      EDIT: Do they celebrate St. Patty's Day in Hong Kong? (Or anyplace outside the US, for that matter?)
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Andy thanks, I know you are serious.

    We have been working on a computer for my mother. My mother isn't technically minded, and she has started to take some classes. She has been asked to leave 2 classes, and is now in a new class.

    She is learning how to use XP and Office 2003, and it was decided months ago that she would have my laptop which has both.

    At the moment the friend who we send her email via, has lent her a laptop which she has used maybe 2 or 3 times, but she has no internet connection. That is because she doesn't want it until she decides if she is going to use the laptop we will send her.

    The friend has offered to take her to their home so she can get online, but again she doesn't want to do that.

    Once a decision is made my laptop will be shipped to her, and no the money to pay for that will not come from the warriors

    So thanks for the offer of help with my mother, but we are taking it one step at a time.

    For those who might be wondering, we bought my parents years ago a telephone and fax machine. They live in South Wales and we were in West Sussex at the time. We spent hours explaining to my mother how it worked, but she refused to use it because, and I quote "How will I know that the message you have received is the one I sent. How do I know that someone isn't changing it while it is going from A to B? What happens to the message when it is sent, I want to know exactly what happens otherwise I'm not going to use it. She never did.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Ok Bev,

    No worries.

    But if you change your mind just let me know.

    Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
      Lol...

      Bev, I can relate to that.

      Before my mother passed I had her surfing the net, sending emails...

      One day she asked to use my laptop and I said sure. My desktop had no
      room for another icon so she thought she would help me by deleting all
      the stuff.

      She did a great job of it and when I saw what she had done I laughed
      till I seen that she also emptied the Trash Bin!

      I lost 6 months of work...lol You gotta Love-Um!

      Have a Great Day!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Andy and if we need a place to stay in the UK, we will look you up

    We appreciate your offer, and it would be easier if my mother was online, but she isn't at the moment. Not sure if it will happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Bev and Rob,
    I'm sure things will work out for you and our thoughts are with you.
    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Quit trying to get Bev to go to UK. She's coming to USA and that's that!
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  • Profile picture of the author easybiztools
    Hi Bev,

    Donation sent. Was catching up on emails and saw Kim's newsletter (dated 15/03).

    Hope all is working out well for you and Rob

    Best wishes,
    Adrian
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  • Profile picture of the author grumpyb
    I dont know Bev or Rob but I did in 1972 live in Bristol
    I used to run the Lewins Mead Esso Service Station and I drank up the Clifton Hill at a pub whos name escapes me Its called CRAFT Cant Rememember a Flipping Thing
    Also went to Hong Kong first time in 1962 and have been dozens of times since.
    Donation Sent I dont need anything in return
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  • Profile picture of the author grumpyb
    PS I dont care what you do with the money and I am sure that most people who have given would feel the same!
    I gave money to the Fire victims in Victoria and I hope they spend some of what was raised on booze and holidays
    Most people who are willing to give a little just hope that in doing so they can make the recipitants life a little easier and its up to them how they acheive this.
    In my opinion If you want to put strings on it then dont give it at all
    Good Luck Rob and Bev I hope you have enough to at least get drunk and have a nice meal.
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  • Profile picture of the author simba999
    Bev....do whatever you feel is best with the money, no strings attached is probably how most of us feel!! Even if you just need a nice hot bath bubble bath, hot cocoa, and to buy a warm fuzzy blanket and slippers w/ the money...enjoy! You deserve it!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
      Hey Bev,

      I only just came across this thread.....

      I'm sorry to hear about your dilemma, but I do know that "all
      things work together for good for those in the Lord".....I also
      know that you and Rob will make the right decisions for your
      future.

      I'll send you an email as well....

      I've taken advantage of the firesale....

      Kim, thanks for putting this thread up and to all the Warriors
      that contributed to the firesale as well.

      You guys are an awesome bunch....

      Regards

      Greg
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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    Wow! After spending so long on the front page, I had to scroll half way down page 2 to catch up on this thread!

    Why is no-one bumping it anymore????

    Oh, I guess I just did!

    -John.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bert Ritz
    So, what's the total now?
    Donations are still coming it, it sounds like. What's happening at the fire sale?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    just had a quick tot up, and made aprox $865 from the firesale. Just going to add a few more bits and pieces that people have kindly donated

    Kim

    BTW a warrior Peter Soos who has recently joined wanted to make this offer but he couldn't because he doesn't have enough posts, so I'm adding it here for him


    Hello Warriors,
    Just signed on. What a community you have here. As an incentive, if you donated to this cause, I will put your name into a drawing for a WPress theme (dating) site with 30+ articles and preselected Videos that will launch this coming week. Just forward your donation info in a pm. One site will be given away ($47 value) and a one year access to a members area ($97 value) with it. You can check out a screen capture of the site near the lower middle of our sales page located at : http://www.yourkeytoimsuccess.com/ . Thank you all for being such giving people and helping each other.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bert Ritz
    Thanks, Kim, for the fire sale update. What about the total for the other donations? Seems Bev & Rob may be closer to $7K or $8KUS by now.
    And, I know I'm new, but why are you counting beds?
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    • Profile picture of the author DiamondPed
      Hey Bev & Rob,

      Please don't feel the need to justify your motives in (maybe) visiting your Mum or in what you're using the money from here for.

      You have made yourselves very clear in your intentions, & as has Kim when she posted this thread, that you both would have preferred that your situation was not made public.

      I for one am glad that a (maybe) short term uncomfortable feeling for you both, has enabled me & others to recognise the valuable part that you have played in this community & I feel that this is important to highlight to others who may be "new" to this Forum.

      I am in the fortunate position to know a part of what you are planning to do next, & it is (again) for the benefit of others, rather than for yourselves.

      You & Rob are constantly striving to help other people & I for one am glad to highlight this.

      I think the fact that MANY respected Warriors have come on here & posted offers of support, prove how highly you & Rob are thought of in this community & as Kim clearly stated this is a very temporary situation you find yourselves in due to the exchange rate variancies.

      Again just to remind people of your intention to pass on monies from the Firesale to help Mr X ~ a fellow Warrior who wishes to remain anonymous ~ is a sign of your generosity & willingness to help others.

      Cheers...

      PeterC.

      p.s. You'll notice I've posted this after you've gone to bed .... dodged a reprimand there ...TeeHee :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Hi Bert

    Its difficult for Bev to get online sometimes, I know she will give us an update as soon as she can.

    I like counting beds

    Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Thanks for everything

    Update is $5,298.47 which includes all the money received from the gifts and firesale

    Bert, being in Hong Kong I was asleep. Kim loves counting beds isn't that what nurses do
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    I use this World Clock to help me figure out other people's time zones.

    Bev, I agree with the others. We don't care if you use it to go to the UK to get some relaxation or if you use it for something else. You have give so much to all of us over the months here, we were just glad to be able to give back.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMChick
      Had to hunt for this thread to update myself... SO...

      Ethical Bump.

      Bev, all my very best wishes to both of you in whatever new adventures you find yourself in. Kim, bless you for making Bev say 'ok' & organizing it all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Thanks everybody, we really do appreciate the support you have given us.

    Someone asked me how we would manage longer term.

    Our monthly income is sorted but will continue to be revised as we look at various options.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
    I am just this moment getting my paypal set up after having been out of the game for almost a year. I will have to see what I can put in to it tonight but Bev and Rob have both helped me in the past. No promises today but I am definitely on board. Worst case scenario, they always have a spot here in the Philippines. It is nothing fancy (yet) but there is an open bed and an internet connection.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
    Well, the Philippines has good points and bad as well as China but you would have a spot ... even temporarily. It is certainly not a four bedroom home (Though I do hope to be working on that soon ) but it would be a roof. I am setting up paypal tonight and believe it or not, I have a rather simple solution set up for my personal needs. I will be working on AC for a while, 25 to 35 articles a week will cover my basic needs here. After that, I intend on getting my personal site set up a little differently and getting a few more web sites. I have over 200 personal products (Relatively low paying but all original and mine) to begin selling so I do not think the future looks nearly as dim as the past. My experiences with the last "Warrior" who helped me unfortunately put me in a bad spot and between that and losing my last computer to the fluctuating power here, knocked me out of the game completely.

    While I may not have much to offer, it is certainly here if you want or need a place. However, my prayers are that this is the dark before the dawn for both of us. Paypal opens up new markets to me and I have a nice little niche (One other warrior here is using as well, but not in the same manner hehehehe) and I think I can open it to mainland China which will give me an incredible number of potential new affiliates who would be only too happy for the little bit of money they could earn.

    Needless to say, the future does look promising if I can stay online this time. If you do find yourself in a position, please let me know and maybe we can consolidate our situations and our efforts and both come out the better for it. It ain't much but I can help you out with what I have.

    As far as help from you? Having you for a friend has already helped me immensely. I have the plan in place and I should be able to pay my debts off this year and begin moving back up the ladder. All I really need at the moment is an affiliate program for my niche site (based on Joomla) but the only thing I can think of is that I will have to wait until I get the money to buy one. For now, I am hoping to make enough to open an ebay store and see if I can begin working out on two fronts.

    PS Apologies for the long-winded response, but thanks, it is good to be back ... and so much going on and for the first time in about a year, I am really looking forward to the future. Sharing it with someone of your (and your husband's) stature would not only be an honor, but a privilege. I ain't got much but it is there if you want or need it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hi Bev,

    Man girl, I sure do hate hearing about what's going on there with you and Rob. Please know that both of you are in my thoughts and prayers!

    I know I'm a little late in responding to this thread, so my apologies. I'll explain about that later. I did come and look a couple of days ago, and got distracted.

    As most people stated already, you are one of the most giving human beings online and off, and never seem to let personaly situations and circumstance get in the way of helping other people in need, or simply being good and thoughtful to others. I know I appreciate you too kid.

    Anyway, if you ever come to the US, you can stay here at the house for as long as you need to. It's a 3 story home with 4 bedrooms, so there is planty of room here. I'll send you something here in a bit too. Hope it helps.

    In the mean time, you know who to trust in, so be sure to leave your worries and cares at the table, and thank Him for this outpouring. He's already at work thru people like Kim, and the many others here, so take His love and mercy as it comes. Remember - God's grace is sufficient for you, and his love is never failing or ending kid.

    Btw, if you ever ever need to talk, even if it's to blow off steam, feel free - anytime.

    Wishing you and yours the very best ...


    Mary


    P.S. Hey Charles,

    As I stated there......your friends were overwhelmed by you a long time ago.
    Isn't that the truth! Couldn't agree with you more ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Charann Miller
    Hi there Bev,

    sorry to hear about your situation so I sent you a little something.

    Please let us know how you get on.

    Take care of yourselves,

    Charann.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Kymi,

    Thanks for your excellent effort on this - including being the subject of some dreadful posts (now deleted) from one of life's losers.


    I'd like to give you something back, Kymi. What I've done is count my own bed so that you don't have to come here and do it. So please add 'one' to your total.

    Pearson
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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    I think I've missed something on the "bed counting" front....

    Maybe I'm just getting a little slow and confused in my old age?

    -John.
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    • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
      Originally Posted by jlandells View Post

      I think I've missed something on the "bed counting" front....

      Maybe I'm just getting a little slow and confused in my old age?

      -John.
      I think that is from the old days of television with shows like I love Lucy, Dick Van Dyke and the like? If there were two people, they had two beds ... even married couples.

      It was just a thought ... I never said it was a good one. (The really scary thing is that it was funny when I thought about it)
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Kymi is a senior nurse in her day job. Good old NHS has better uses for a nurse than to actually treat patients ;-)

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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    What happened??? After this being on the first page for days, and making a huge difference to Bev, I logged in this morning and had to go to page 4 to find the thread....!!

    Hopefully, it's easier for others to find now!

    -John.
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  • Profile picture of the author sevenish
    Originally Posted by Justin_Kim View Post

    Bev if you dont mind i would like to put this up for you.
    For every new follower to My Twitter Twitter / freemanjust i will donate 1$ to Bev. Just send me a message saying Bev or something like that.

    I know that my 100$ didnt do much so i want to help out more.

    Also bev if you want i can switch the offer to someone else's twitter maybe your twitter instead of mine.
    believe it or not, many of us would rather commit hari kari than follow you on twitter or anywhere else in exchange for a donation to Bev.

    Who cares about your stupid list - building attempt?
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Yo, Seven,
      believe it or not, many of us would rather commit hari kari than follow you on twitter or anywhere else in exchange for a donation to Bev.
      Please note Bev's gracious response. It's a lesson we could all profit from...


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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Soos
    Kim had posted this for me earlier because I couldn't at the time. No hook here...I've been following for about 3 days now and you all are great. Please PM me your donation info and I'll draw the name Friday evening Pacific time and post the winners name (if that's allowed) in this thread.

    Hello Warriors,
    Just signed on. What a community you have here. As an incentive, if you donated to this cause, I will put your name into a drawing for a WPress theme (dating) site with 30+ articles and preselected Videos that will launch this coming week. Just forward your donation info in a pm. One site will be given away ($47 value) and a one year access to a members area ($97 value) with it. You can check out a screen capture of the site near the lower middle of our sales page located at : http://www.yourkeytoimsuccess.com/ . Thank you all for being such giving people and helping each other.
    Peter Soos
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Folks,

      I would be very careful about PMing info to people who are new. They may mean well, or they may not.

      Just a word to the wise.


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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Soos
    Paul,

    Thank you for looking out! I didn't know how else to do this..I'm sorry...I didn't want to bother Bev for the info. Thinking about it, I am appreciative of the warning...I'll also be more aware of those who ask for the same info from me. Again, Thank you for looking out...experience rules and a group of people have more than one. If the members that donated want to leave out some details that are to info sensitive I understand. Take care,
    Peter
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Peter,

      Thanks for taking it in the right spirit. That wasn't directed at you personally.

      There have been a lot of such requests lately, and there'll be even more in the next few weeks. Many are okay, but most of the ones I've seen have been ... sketchy.

      Extreme caution is advised with these, unless you know the person to whom you're sending the data.


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  • Profile picture of the author DiamondPed
    @ Peter & Paul, (where's Mary?) .........

    Thanks for the warning Paul, you are right people do have to be wary, the Forum is changing, even in the few short months I have been here.

    Well done Peter for accepting the comments in the spirit they were intended. Many posters don't (seem) to realise that there are many more people reading & following these threads, than are actually posting, and therefore people who may be thinking of doing business with you, now or in the future, could have second thoughts if your comment, or reaction to a comment, was ill thoughout.


    (Steps off soapbox & heads back in the mists of time looking for Mary .........)
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  • Folks,

    This thread is an example of the Warrior forum at its best. Good people got help they did not ask for, in ways (and amounts) that were above and beyond their expectations.

    Even more importantly, the relationships forged here are real, not just acquaintanceships. While Bev was handling all the thank you's and her own work, she still had time to do me a personal favor.

    I was also able to give her a bit of information to help her in her work (beyond the modest donation I made to her and Rob). In turn, she offered me the fruits of her labor, based on the info I forwarded.

    Here's the bottom line: it ain't all about money, despite the stated purpose of this particular forum. It's about relationships, which can lead to very big money.

    That's because you can't do it all alone. Take heed!
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    • Profile picture of the author nini92220
      Hi Bev,

      I don't know you and I'm new to the forum
      I just sent you a donation to admin@robbev.com
      You seem to be a very generous person
      hope everything will get better soon

      wishing you the best

      nini
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Bev, I have just sent you a pm.

    If you are free, we could arrange a trip into the NT next week so you can have a look around at the environment and collect a few calling cards from property agents. There are actually a lot of good choices there. There are 700sq foot appartments in village houses that can be rented quite cheaply.

    Derek
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Thanks again.

    We move into an apartment tomorrow. Not sure about internet and how long it will take for that to be connected.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    Hi Bev,

    Sorry i am late to discover this thread and your situation....
    But I am glad to read your last post that You have moved to new apartment.

    You have been always great Warrior friend of us, and you deserve best of the best!
    I am so glad to read the resultant of this whole thread.

    You & Your family is in my prayers!

    Best,
    Mohsin
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Soos
    Hello Warriors,

    Thanks again for donating to Bev's cause. The 'winner' (although I think you all are) of the drawing for the dating website template I gave away as a bonus is: (slight pause for dramatic effect..cut to commercial goes here LOL)

    Greg Cooksley.

    Thank you Greg and all of the others who donated but weren't part of the drawing. You Folks Rock!

    Peter
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  • Profile picture of the author Rully
    wow its a great forum here :-). Can't all of you imagine if people around the world act like you ?

    Bev...be patience, and God will show the best way
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    I've just had a quick total, and the firesale has raised about $973 (give or take a dollar or 2).

    It is still bringing some sales in though it has slowed down.

    Bev I'm pleased to hear about the apartment, that's what this was all about I believe, and it looks as though targets were more than met.

    The generosity of spirit in the Warrior forum is overwhelming

    Kim
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