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Old 07-15-2009, 03:26 PM   #101
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Simple answer link it to the related page or a opt-in form... If you article is about dog collars then link it to the place where they can get more info about dog collars and how or where to purchase those dog collars (this is where affiliate marketing plays a role).

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Thanks for sharing that, Don.

Maybe the answers to the following questions are obvious to others, but not to me.

When you submit your article (which you first published on your web site) to EZA, do you provide the link in the resource box directly back to the same web page/article on your site? Or do you direct the reader to a different page/article?

I would imagine the latter (why would you take your reader to the exact same article?), but maybe there is a hidden logic that eludes me.

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I prefer putting it on my site first.
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James, thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

I hear what you're saying (in fact, I thoroughly read your entries in this thread) and it sounds reasonable.

I somehow feel comfortable with the concept of building myself up as the expert (that's how I truly view myself in my field) and not another site (e.g. Ezines).

Can I go about this by just posting on my site?

You can PM me if you can help in any other way.
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James, thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

I hear what you're saying (in fact, I thoroughly read your entries in this thread) and it sounds reasonable.

I somehow feel comfortable with the concept of building myself up as the expert (that's how I truly view myself in my field) and not another site (e.g. Ezines).

Can I go about this by just posting on my site?

You can PM me if you can help in any other way.
Can you build your site as an authority site, Yes ... But just keep in mind that it does require a great deal of work and backlinks. Those backlinks need to be not done by only by you alone but by others also on related sites.

For example someone has a question on Yahoo Answers you want your site to be the first one that comes to someones mind when they are going to answer that question.

You see authority sites are not created on their own but they are created by a great deal of work and a great deal of popularity. So if you are building backlinks and you have 20,000 people that just love your site, product, and etc and you are the first one they talk about when a specific question comes up then you are sure to have yourself a winner.

With that said also understand that an authority site can be easily outranked on google. In all honesty anyone can be outranked, even the big boys.. It may take longer or a great deal more work but the bottom line is anyone can be outranked. This is why you continue to build backlinks ayway and anyplace you can (as long as it is legit)...

An Authority site can also come down a great deal faster than it went up, so bear that in mind also.... Nothing is set in stone.

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Better idea to post article on your site first. And then point a few links to it by bookmarking that post with clipmarks- especially fast...or a few of your other favorites. social poster.com will help there if you've never tried it..

Why..? You want the credit for having posted that content and if you go and give that original to ezinearticle then whoever grabs that article first will be seen as originator.

Then link to that article url in your resource box with the proper anchor text...along with link to your index page so you have deep links and home page links.

Now you're getting deep links into site with your long tail keywords ( blue widgets are cool)...plus links to home page with your main big keyword ( widget universe).
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I think that putting your article on EZA first is a better idea simply because the reader gets what they are looking for instantly and is more likely to retun if they like your work. Personal sites are usually less professionaland not as easy to navigate and therefore should be the latter option.
Say What ?? Please do more reading before you try to run a business... Oh especially read the forum rules that say "affiliate links" are not allowed to be posted in your sig..

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Without a doubt put it on your site first and make sure its bookmarked by google. Otherwise your site will be considered duplicate content...

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Without a doubt put it on your site first and make sure its bookmarked by google. Otherwise your site will be considered duplicate content...
Duplicate Content is a Myth ... Wish I was paid 5 cents for everytime I said that ...

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If everyone paid me ten cents today, we both could retire.
I have a article on my site
ezinearticles.com has the same article
100 other sites have the exact same article
1000 sites take the article and put in on their sites.

so thousands of the EXACT same article and google
loves it and gives me lots of google juice and does not
penalize me...They just say it must be one good article.
Standing here with a cup for all my ten cents.

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I wish people would read more duplicate content from big Kahuna Seth. It's referring to duplicate content on your own site. Not syndicated content like 100 people using the same article or news story. What the penalty addresses is where people have 2 exact same articles, like one for printer and one in content area...and then others where only the keywords are changed. "Red cars"..."blue cars". Rest of content is same. That's duplicate content.. And it stands to reason that you have nothing to worry about as long as you're not doing the last example there.
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James

If everyone paid me ten cents today, we both could retire.
I have a article on my site
ezinearticles.com has the same article
100 other sites have the exact same article
1000 sites take the article and put in on their sites.

so thousands of the EXACT same article and google
loves it and gives me lots of google juice and does not
penalize me...They just say it must be one good article.
Standing here with a cup for all my ten cents.

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and the person that gets the most links to that page with proper anchor text usually will win the rankings for that article even if they're not the one who wrote it in the first place...
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and the person that gets the most links to that page with proper anchor text usually will win the rankings for that article even if they're not the one who wrote it in the first place...
No actually that is wrong.. the articles have his link in it leading back to his site and as such he will get the top listings because thousands are linking to his site. So unless that publisher really wants to try and get twice the amount of links to that one article then I am sorry they will not top rank the site itself that is getting thousands of links.

How many publishers you know that is going to spent the time on getting thousands of backlinks to that one article that links to someone elses site ???

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No actually that is wrong.. the articles have his link in it leading back to his site and as such he will get the top listings because thousands are linking to his site. So unless that publisher really wants to try and get twice the amount of links to that one article then I am sorry they will not top rank the site itself that is getting thousands of links.

How many publishers you know that is going to spent the time on getting thousands of backlinks to that one article that links to someone elses site ???

James
I've used plenty of 3rd party content in my niches and got top rankings for that very article...outranking original author.

It may be that people don't realize that they really should link to the original article URL on their sites with proper anchor text in those resource boxes- but many people just use their main terms and link to the index page.

Happens all the time though..sorry.
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First let me say if you read my post on the other page
i link to the article url. We will use the example of the ten
articles that came out in the last ten days ALL sittng on page one
most #1 and #2. I use Angelas 30 site packet here in the warrior forum.
So i take 10 of her high PR authority sites and at each one i link to the article url and the site. this will keep the article on page one plus boost the site. One article does not make a site. I am confused on your statement that you outrank the original author. How do you know that..If you kept me and my site in the resource box that would benefit me more than you. Google knows who the original author is. So on my ten articles in the example Google knows i am the original author, than put out by ezinearticles.com, than the other 1000's. But i am in first place, Always, unless you do not install my resource box.

I thought this started out about a artilce on my site.
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I've used plenty of 3rd party content in my niches and got top rankings for that very article...outranking original author.

It may be that people don't realize that they really should link to the article URL in those resource boxes but go after links to only the index page.

It may be that my site has more authority then theirs in that niche..plus more incoming links in general.

Happens all the time though..sorry.
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By adding link to your url, you're doing things right there, and by sending more links with right keyword text also. But Google will not always serve up the source of the content but the best version..the one that's optimized the best, on and off page...that's all I'm trying to say without stepping on any toes..
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First let me say if you read my post on the other page
i link to the article url. We will use the example of the ten
articles that came out in the last ten days ALL sittng on page one
most #1 and #2. I use Angelas 30 site packet here in the warrior forum.
So i take 10 of her high PR authority sites and at each one i link to the article url and the site. this will keep the article on page one plus boost the site. One article does not make a site. I am confused on your statement that you outrank the original author. How do you know that..If you kept me and my site in the resource box that would benefit me more than you. Google knows who the original author is. So on my ten articles in the example Google knows i am the original author, than put out by ezinearticles.com, than the other 1000's. But i am in first place, Always, unless you do not install my resource box.

I thought this started out about a artilce on my site.
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That was my point, no way he can outrank an author that is already getting thousands of backlinks. Unless he is cheating the system somehow (ie: removing resource links)....

Sure he can outrank an author that just slaps article out there and does nothing else, but I thought you already posted about building backlinks to your articles so I went by what you posted. Maybe patlondon just needs to learn to read the entire thread as I have told others...

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That was my point, no way he can outrank an author that is already getting thousands of backlinks. Unless he is cheating the system somehow (ie: removing resource links)....

Sure he can outrank an author that just slaps article out there and does nothing else, but I thought you already posted about building backlinks to your articles so I went by what you posted. Maybe patlondon just needs to learn to read the entire thread as I have told others...

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I'll try to do better in the future...and it's she

...and no I've never removed links from articles though I've had it happen to me quiet alot.
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This same question has been asked over and over... There is only 1 "Real" answer that has been proven, has nothing to do with a difference in opinion. If you want the results that you desire then follow the simple plan.

1. Create your own original unique article and post it in your site / blog first in full length.

2. Install a blog (if you main site is a blog then install a 2nd one) on this blog you will post only a summary and link to your main site/blog article.

3. Bookmark your original article and bookmark the blog with the summary. After bookmarking if you have Rss Feeds then submit those to Rss Directories.

- If you use Clipmarks - What are you finding on the web? or All News, Videos, & Images you can have your article indexed within minutes.

4. Take your orginal article and rewrite it at least 35% - there are proper spinners you can use for this process if you desire. If you have no desire to spin then just create a copy and edit the copy.

5. Submit the copies of your article to article directories, now this is where spun articles would really help as you could provide 20 or so different copies to 20 or so different article directories.

6. Make sure you resource box leads back to your site. If you want and the article directory allows a 2nd link you can link to one of your other articles on another article directory.

- Changing your resource box is a good thing, just like spinning your article you should also make slight changes to your resource box.

7. Bookmark each one of the articles you have posted on article directories. If the article directories has author Rss Feeds then submit those to Rss Directories.

8. Use distribution services (again spun articles are great for this) such as iSnare, MyArticleNetwork, and etc... Get your spun version posted on blogs, yahoo groups, and etc..

9. Create a beautiful looking PDF from one of the articles and start posting it on Document Sharing sites. Make sure to bookmark and submit Rss Feeds as explained above.

- Learn about document sharing sites - http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ate-links.html

10. As they say rinse and repeat....

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Thanks man. I am going to try this out.

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Thanks man. I am going to try this out.

Great !!! Your welcome... Nice to see someone taking some action, that is what we want to see. Let us know your results after you have worked on the plan ...

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Wow I've learned a lot from this thread! I've been under the impression that you should post an article to EZA because it has a higher likelihood of getting ranked. I figured that if I put an article on my site and then the same / similar article on EZA, the article on EZA would outrank my site. Does that make sense? Can someone shed some light on this because I think I've been doing this completely wrong.
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Thanks James - I really appreciate your comments! Just one thought re the above -
How about when you are just starting out, EZA will get traffic to your site, whereas no-one will see your stuff on your blog until it is established? So post to EZA first when you are starting out and have no traffic, then switch? Surely there is room for a tactic change AFTER your site is established and you are driving serious traffic to it?

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Hello Susan
OK from my example i have been using is i put the article
on my site. I use Word Press now on almost all. I ping it
do a couple of things than submit to eza..we are only talking a
day or two between the two..Unless i am golfing too much.

So we are not talking weeks or months..I guess you could put it on
your site today and submit because eza is running behind right now
so for most it would take a week to come out. so your site has a one week
head start.

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Thanks James - I really appreciate your comments! Just one thought re the above -
How about when you are just starting out, EZA will get traffic to your site, whereas no-one will see your stuff on your blog until it is established? So post to EZA first when you are starting out and have no traffic, then switch? Surely there is room for a tactic change AFTER your site is established and you are driving serious traffic to it?

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Thanks James - I really appreciate your comments! Just one thought re the above -
How about when you are just starting out, EZA will get traffic to your site, whereas no-one will see your stuff on your blog until it is established? So post to EZA first when you are starting out and have no traffic, then switch? Surely there is room for a tactic change AFTER your site is established and you are driving serious traffic to it?

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Hi Susan,
This is why you build you site up by backlinks...

For example I just started this great blog now I need traffic so before I go gove my great content away for free to some over glorified article directory I think I will try the following...

- Bookmark my new blog:
All News, Videos, & Images
Clipmarks - What are you finding on the web?
Home | Propeller
Faves: Sites you'll love, from people like you
Mister Wong | Social Bookmarking Tool (twitter function built in)

* Those above will get you indexed in google with no
problem, digg and clipmarks can have you
indexed in 10 minutes.

- Create a 3 new articles similar to my blog content and turn them into PDF with links to my blog and upload it:
Scribd

* fully fill out the profile and since I posted 3
documents there is also an auto poster for twitter
and facebook - so I will tweet and post to facebook.


- Locate my Rss Feeds on the bookmarking sites and scribd and post them to Rss Directories:
RSS Submissions

* many resources on that site above that can help.

This would be a good start to get your content indexed before you even submit to any directory and notice since you said just starting out, none of this cost any money, its free advrtising. Combine the above with the plan I posted a few post back and you will have yourself a winner...

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See everyone
do here what james says.
you can even start with a new blog today
and in 3 weeks you will have articles etc
probably on the number one page in google
and your site will be listed and moving up the ladder

Google and the other search love squidoo, hub pages, paint
Scribd. just type the name of your site and or articles
and see what they are listing on the first page.
So if you work hard you can do this in one day
and see immediate results. The first time is the hardest
setting up the accounts but after that much faster.
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This is why you build you site up by backlinks...

For example I just started this great blog now I need traffic so before I go gove my great content away for free to some over glorified article directory I think I will try the following...

- Bookmark my new blog:
All News, Videos, & Images
Clipmarks - What are you finding on the web?
Home | Propeller
Faves: Sites you'll love, from people like you
Mister Wong | Social Bookmarking Tool (twitter function built in)

* Those above will get you indexed in google with no
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- Create a 3 new articles similar to my blog content and turn them into PDF with links to my blog and upload it:
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* fully fill out the profile and since I posted 3
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and facebook - so I will tweet and post to facebook.


- Locate my Rss Feeds on the bookmarking sites and scribd and post them to Rss Directories:
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* many resources on that site above that can help.

This would be a good start to get your content indexed before you even submit to any directory and notice since you said just starting out, none of this cost any money, its free advrtising. Combine the above with the plan I posted a few post back and you will have yourself a winner...

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See everyone
do here what james says.
you can even start with a new blog today
and in 3 weeks you will have articles etc
probably on the number one page in google
and your site will be listed and moving up the ladder

Google and the other search love squidoo, hub pages, paint
Scribd. just type the name of your site and or articles
and see what they are listing on the first page.
So if you work hard you can do this in one day
and see immediate results. The first time is the hardest
setting up the accounts but after that much faster.
Don
Yep I agree there is no excuse, everything is laid out for anyone that wants to start making money online... Just follow the post in this thread to get started.

Remember reading and research is ok but if that is all you do and never take action then you will never make any money...

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What a fantastic thread with some fantastic contributions!

Got to love the "know all newbies" who know it all but just don't have facts to back it up, I can just imagine some of the warriors screaming at their monitors or banging their keyboards listening to some of the bad advice that is being given.

From today I will be submitting or adding content to MY site first before submitting it to EZA and then the other directories.

205 Articles I've written basically for EZA amounting to 56 000 clicks to my sites, that's a fair amount of unique content I've given to EZA and a fair amount of content that I could have used on my sites.

Now I know better thanks to some of you who are out there doing the groundwork!
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What a fantastic thread with some fantastic contributions!

Got to love the "know all newbies" who know it all but just don't have facts to back it up, I can just imagine some of the warriors screaming at their monitors or banging their keyboards listening to some of the bad advice that is being given.

From today I will be submitting or adding content to MY site first before submitting it to EZA and then the other directories.

205 Articles I've written basically for EZA amounting to 56 000 clicks to my sites, that's a fair amount of unique content I've given to EZA and a fair amount of content that I could have used on my sites.

Now I know better thanks to some of you who are out there doing the groundwork!
Hi Terry,
Great to see someone is going to take action... Wish you all the best with your websites.

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Wow. Great info. Funny how I just found this link. I've been blogging for 4 years. I was earning more than I had earned at my fulltime job, then the Google slap came along.. Because of this, I went into another direction. However, I still have tons of blogs, sites and Squidoo lenses just sitting there. So, I decided to put them to use. I get a Google payout every couple of months and a couple of sales here and there, but nothing compared to a few years ago.

Today I submitted my first article to ezinearticles. I opened an account with them years ago, but never got around to submitting anything. I finally decided to take the plunge. I wrote two original articles for EZA. The site I linked in my author resource box has the shares the keyword in the domain. Now I have to wait.

Why now? I'm conducting a little experiment. I want to see if the stats I saw in an ebook I read this weekend can be duplicated if I follow the steps they described.

Would anyone care to share the results they achieved with article marketing?
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A lot of great info in this thread.

James,

I have a question for you. You said that you create a blog on the same domain as your web page, and that you and that you create links pointing back to your website/articles. I was wondering, do you create links going back the other way, from the website back to the blog? Maybe the better question, is it necessary to create links back to the blog?

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RanD There is no need to create links back to the blog, the entire idea is to use that blog to help push your main site. This gives you more leverage when it comes to being indexed at a higher rank - Remember it is the main site you want visitors to see..

With that said though do not sell yourself short, the blog should also be highly seo'ed with plugins such as all-in-one-seo and etc. Your summaries should have tags and proper keyword titles and proper categories using keywords.

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It makes sense that the blog should be optimized as much as possible, not only for good ranking, but because that may very well be the first page a visitor lands on your site.

My concern was trying to maintain the illusion of continuity if the user was bouncing back and forth between the blog and the website. I'm glad that the answer was no.

Thanks for the advice.
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I suggest going here and listening to this interview:

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Chris says right there in the interview that your articles only have to be original to you - doesn't matter if they are already published elsewhere - although he PERSONALLY prefers that you submit to EZA first.

I haven't had anyone take me up on my reasons...no PMs yet. :-(

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Post to ezinearticles first so you can get it accepted, then upon notification put the one on your webpage.
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Post to ezinearticles first so you can get it accepted, then upon notification put the one on your webpage.
Let me guess you did not bother to read the thread...

This is what EZA wants you to do because as long as they make people think this way they will continue to take advantage of your unique high quality content. As long as you continue to do this you will also allow your competition to outrank you and make more sales than you...

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Let me guess you did not bother to read the thread...

This is what EZA wants you to do because as long as they make people think this way they will continue to take advantage of your unique high quality content. As long as you continue to do this you will also allow your competition to outrank you and make more sales than you...

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It also cracks me up that for a site that is supposed to be about helping your content spread, they limit republication to 25 articles per site on only up to 10 domains per publisher.

So that means if someone is actually GOOD at re-using that content, Ezine actually disallows them from working at full effectiveness. Why is that? Because it would cut into all the ad revenue they get from the articles being on THEIR site.

That always bugged me that their own TOS basically goes against their stated purpose. But it makes total sense if you, like James, understand what their game really is.

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I personally wouldn't put the same content on both at the same time. Someone could read your article, then click the link to your website in the sig area and see the exact same thing they just read.

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It also cracks me up that for a site that is supposed to be about helping your content spread, they limit republication to 25 articles per site on only up to 10 domains per publisher.

So that means if someone is actually GOOD at re-using that content, Ezine actually disallows them from working at full effectiveness. Why is that? Because it would cut into all the ad revenue they get from the articles being on THEIR site.

That always bugged me that their own TOS basically goes against their stated purpose. But it makes total sense if you, like James, understand what their game really is.

I agree, I personally would rather post to Hubpages and Squidoo instead of having all the bogus rules and waiting seven days to get approved.

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It also cracks me up that for a site that is supposed to be about helping your content spread, they limit republication to 25 articles per site on only up to 10 domains per publisher.

So that means if someone is actually GOOD at re-using that content, Ezine actually disallows them from working at full effectiveness. Why is that? Because it would cut into all the ad revenue they get from the articles being on THEIR site.

That always bugged me that their own TOS basically goes against their stated purpose. But it makes total sense if you, like James, understand what their game really is.
Yep you got it Keith... They do not want the competition in the search engines, but this is why you train people to submit the article to their own website/blog first and then advertise that article, bookmark it, build backlinks outside of article directories, and then after which give it to EZA if you feel you must but I hate to say it there are way much better places besides EZA...

I have said it once and I will say it again, your authors should be treated like gold because they are the ones giving you all that wonderful "free" content.

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Lots of infos here. Thanks guys!
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EZA's TOS says "original" content! its hard to keep up with them. I've always submitted to EZA first and added them to my site after they got approved and published. Once they publish it, it's a free-for-all, they don't care what you do with it.

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Great thread!

In addition to above discussion, do we need to bookmark each page of our site?

Maybe this is new to me because currently i'm only bookmarking the homepage (mostly) and expecting social sites and google bot will find all pages via sitemap that i have on my site.

Can somebody comment on this?

RichJerkNet, i love your post and hope u'll write simple ebook on that

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Great thread!

In addition to above discussion, do we need to bookmark each page of our site?

Maybe this is new to me because currently i'm only bookmarking the homepage (mostly) and expecting social sites and google bot will find all pages via sitemap that i have on my site.

Can somebody comment on this?

RichJerkNet, i love your post and hope u'll write simple ebook on that

Cheers..
I have written several ebooks ..lol As for bookmarking you should bookmark the inner pages of your site also and not just the main domain. Bookmarking your inner pages is one wayto let the search engines know of other pages. Remember not all search engines are the same, no all follow a robots.txt, not all will index links on a site map, as such you must do what you can to let those search engines know of your pages.

Keep in mind there are many more search engines besides google and do not listen to those that claim the Big G has 85% of the search market because this is also another myth. There are many niche specific search engines out there that have a very high volume of traffic and searching internet users. I have an ad on some of these other search engines and in 4 days the ad views is at 21,786 (the clicks I will not release but know that the clicks I am very happy with).

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EZA will be the better one as you know the purpose of your article will be served when more people will read them so EZA will be good at it. You can give a backlink to your site in the article so both purpose are served.
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EZA will be the better one as you know the purpose of your article will be served when more people will read them so EZA will be good at it. You can give a backlink to your site in the article so both purpose are served.
I would assume you did not bother to read the thread either..

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I know it has already been said in all the responses, but not neccesarily clearly enough. So here it is again:

First, you want to build content on your site before you start to promote it. It will take your site a lot longer to get indexed than Ezinearticles will.

Second, the article you send to Ezinearticles MUST BE DIFFERENT than the article on your site, even if just reorganized a bit and worded differently in places. Otherwise, it will be considered duplicate content and Ezinearticles will be considered the original, so your site will not get the ranking credit.

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I know it has already been said in all the responses, but not neccesarily clearly enough. So here it is again:

First, you want to build content on your site before you start to promote it. It will take your site a lot longer to get indexed than Ezinearticles will.

Second, the article you send to Ezinearticles MUST BE DIFFERENT than the article on your site, even if just reorganized a bit and worded differently in places. Otherwise, it will be considered duplicate content and Ezinearticles will be considered the original, so your site will not get the ranking credit.

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Brent,
I am sorry but this is false information and this is the exact same thing many of us have been saying over and over..

Duplicate Content "DOES NOT EXIST" it is a myth - Why do people not understand this. The fatser you remove the words "duplicate content" out of your thinking the faster you will make money.

You should post to your site first because it is your content and you can have your site in the search engines a great deal faster than EZA. You can have any site in google within 15 minutes, this also has already been proven over and over. It does not take weeks or months like many self proclaimed experts try to say, many say this because they want to sell you their crappy search engine ranking submitter that does the dishes too...

You can submit the same article to EZA if you wish, you do not need to changeit at all... You can if you want but this is not required. Just understand that their are benefits to having spun articles..

I hope that was said clear enough

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Default Re: Article on site or EZA first ?

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I know it has already been said in all the responses, but not neccesarily clearly enough. So here it is again:

First, you want to build content on your site before you start to promote it. It will take your site a lot longer to get indexed than Ezinearticles will.

Second, the article you send to Ezinearticles MUST BE DIFFERENT than the article on your site, even if just reorganized a bit and worded differently in places. Otherwise, it will be considered duplicate content and Ezinearticles will be considered the original, so your site will not get the ranking credit.

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I've highlighted the part in your reply that is just utterly BAD advice. I have close to 1000 articles on EZA now, and guess what? They are the exact same articles on Articlesbase, Goarticles, my site, other people's site, e.t.c...

Read through this thread and the virtually countless numbers of others, wherein it has been shown BY example, WITH PROOF, and by the testimonials of almost 15 senior marketers AND DIRECTORY OWNERS that what you are saying is nonsense.

As opposed to coming into this forum with advice that can harm, how about you guys just go ahead and try it for yourself. You will quickly see that all that time wasted re-purposing articles could have been better spent finding a new niche, developing a new list, or getting backlinks.

I swear James, this debate is bordering on paranormal. It seems as if the voice of God could swoop in here and lay down the facts and still people will come back time and again with this nonsense.

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This is easy!

Put the article on your site and just reword it before you submit to ezine!
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Read through this thread and the virtually countless numbers of others, wherein it has been shown BY example, WITH PROOF, and by the testimonials of almost 15 senior marketers AND DIRECTORY OWNERS that what you are saying is nonsense.
People just will not do this!

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this debate is bordering on paranormal. It seems as if the voice of God could swoop in here and lay down the facts and still people will come back time and again with this nonsense.
LOL, I'm afraid this totally right. I suspect that many people "already know they're right" (i.e. in the face of all the contrary evidence) and don't read most of these threads in which all the evidence is neatly set out for them; so it's just a never-ending conversation. And when this thread's too old for it, it will just be another new thread instead. People will believe what they want to believe, ultimately.

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