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14 years ago

Hi,

Yahoo and Bing recently just reached a deal to merge their search algorithms... How do you think it will affect optimization effort on both Yahoo and Bing? Will like to hear your opinions in this.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

From what I understand they're not merging per se, they're getting rid of Y! search altogether and allowing Y! to maintain it's ad sales, the portal, etc.

So, if that's true then I see it staying essentially the same in terms of optimization efforts. My advice, and what I'll continue to do until further developments arise (Bing makes their algorithms, etc..) is to do what you've always done... optimize for Google and you'll rank in Bing as a result. It's just more efficient that way considering G is capable of sending A LOT more traffic than Bing as of late.

Now for some specific tips for Bing, if you find that you're ranking where you want in Google and not in Bing, I'd focus on some directory submissions and optimize your onsite content. (title tags, semantics, bold keywords, etc). They believe a bit more in these types of links and they're fairly easy, albeit time consuming. Overall, I find Bing is relatively easy to dominate if your site has a well rounded link campaign.

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rimam1

14 years ago

Hey Terry,

This is turning out to be one of the most popular posts on the Warrior Forum. It's much appreciated.

I have two Wordpress blogs that are optimized pretty well but they don't show up anywhere in the first 100 pages of Google (1000 results). They are relatively new domains (one month) and have lots of competing pages, but some results on the first page of Google have less than 200 links to their specific pages and/or domain. Do I need to give it more time and build more links? I've optimized sites before and gotten on the first page of Google in as little as 3 weeks before, so I'm confused as to why this is taking so long. The only difference is that these two keywords have more competing pages (about 15 million for each one) but I don't pay attention to competing pages. I'm more concerned about how well the pages are optimized. I've written the basic SEO steps I've taken below but am stumped as to why I'm nowhere in the Google results for my keywords.

I don't mind being on page 87, because I can move up quickly from there by getting links. Funny thing is that both sites ARE indexed. I'm sure they'll appear soon, but I wanted to get your opinion.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rimam1

Hey Terry,
I have two Wordpress blogs that are optimized pretty well but they don't show up anywhere in the first 100 pages of Google (1000 results). They are relatively new domains (one month) and have lots of competing pages, but some results on the first page of Google have less than 200 links to their specific pages and/or domain. Do I need to give it more time and build more links? I've optimized sites before and gotten on the first page of Google in as little as 3 weeks before, so I'm confused as to why this is taking so long. The only difference is that these two keywords have more competing pages (about 15 million for each one) but I don't pay attention to competing pages. I'm more concerned about how well the pages are optimized. I've written the basic SEO steps I've taken below but am stumped as to why I'm nowhere in the Google results for my keywords.

I don't mind being on page 87, because I can move up quickly from there by getting links. Funny thing is that both sites ARE indexed. I'm sure they'll appear soon, but I wanted to get your opinion.

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More time, more links, better links, more content.

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yuyuan

14 years ago

Agreed with you. I also find that Bing is relatively easy to rank, and their search results is quite similar to Google. Surprisingly, Yahoo has become harder to rank. (Although some warriors have a lot of success on Yahoo but not Bing).

Thanks for your input.

As long as we create quality content and focus our optimization on the big G, ranking for BingYahoo! should not be a problem.

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andrewaff 14 years ago

I have a website based on Amazon like a white label. How to promote this site for organic search , any idea..
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  Originally Posted by andrewaff
  
  I have a website based on Amazon like a white label. How to promote this site for organic search , any idea..
  
  As long as you plan correctly you'd promote this the same way you promote all sites. The most important things here IMO would be to choose a good niche with branded products as by its very nature you'll be dealing with more longtail searches and "brand + product + variation" (if applicable) type queries.
  
  Something specific to this that I've seen people do wrong in the past would be just simply pulling in a feed or autogenerating the listings. You SHOULD write your own product descriptions and optimize each page title etc, individually.
  
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realtorkimberly

14 years ago

Originally Posted by yuyuan

Agreed with you. I also find that Bing is relatively easy to rank, and their search results is quite similar to Google. Surprisingly, Yahoo has become harder to rank. (Although some warriors have a lot of success on Yahoo but not Bing).

Thanks for your input.

As long as we create quality content and focus our optimization on the big G, ranking for BingYahoo! should not be a problem.

Question I asked and deleted was
a mistake when review question is answered in the above post, my apologies

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blueorca17

14 years ago

Originally Posted by yuyuan

Agreed with you. I also find that Bing is relatively easy to rank, and their search results is quite similar to Google. Surprisingly, Yahoo has become harder to rank. (Although some warriors have a lot of success on Yahoo but not Bing).

Thanks for your input.

As long as we create quality content and focus our optimization on the big G, ranking for BingYahoo! should not be a problem.

Ranking on Yahoo is a piece of cake...I agree that working hard to rank on Google will take care of all of the other search engines.

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CET

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yuyuan

Agreed with you. I also find that Bing is relatively easy to rank, and their search results is quite similar to Google. Surprisingly, Yahoo has become harder to rank. (Although some warriors have a lot of success on Yahoo but not Bing).

Thanks for your input.

As long as we create quality content and focus our optimization on the big G, ranking for BingYahoo! should not be a problem.

Really? I've found Yahoo's algorithm to be very primitave and easy to rank. For example, Yahoo in their infinite wisdom places HUGE weight on keywords in domains. I've taken clients from page 2 to #1 by doing nothing more than getting a domain with the keywords they wanted and setting up a 301. Presto; #1!

Yahoo still looks at the Meta Keywords tag for cryin out loud! I'll be glad when Yahoo starts using a respectable algorithm.

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Heat 13 years ago

Hey Terry thanks for sharing your knowledge

I have some questions for you but here is my situation:

I have a couple sites that are on page 2 in Google out of about 2 million results without quotes and my goal is to get them to the number one spot in Google if I can.

The sites are each about 9 months old, have good On page SEO and lots of unique content

and have the following in terms of links:

-social bookmarking
-video submission with tubemogule
-high PR blog commenting
-web 2.0 links

my main problem/concern is the SOC on the first page is pretty strong

lots of sites with domain age, high PR and thousands of backlinks including Amazon.com as well as several merchant sites that are selling the same product I am.

My questions are there any back link services here or any other forum or even software you would recommended using to beat out these types of sites?

any suggestions of what I can do to beat the big dogs out and get the number one spot?

I can send you my urls and current SERPs for each keyword

Look forward to hearing from you,

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jamespatterson

14 years ago

MY QUESTION:

Haha here goes... How do I get my site ranked number one for the google term: "be your own boss"?

-James Patterson

P.S. Just being silly. I realize there is quite a lot of competition for that keyword. My real question is how can I get on the first page of google for a broader keyword? And how do I figure out which broad keywords to go for? (And how do I find them in the first place?)

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jamespatterson

MY QUESTION:

Haha here goes... How do I get my site ranked number one for the google term: "be your own boss"?

-James Patterson

P.S. Just being silly. I realize there is quite a lot of competition for that keyword. My real question is how can I get on the first page of google for a broader keyword? And how do I figure out which broad keywords to go for? (And how do I find them in the first place?)

I'm a big fan of the Google Adwords External tool for finding related keywords and such. Wordtracker (what most people like) is really becoming unreliable as of late (for me anyway..).

I can't post links yet, but google this "adwords external" and you'll find what I'm talking about. In about 30 seconds I found a few terms that may help you:

be your own boss ideas
how to be your own boss

Now it should be noted that the traffic for these secondary phrases is a fraction of the searches for the main term "be your own boss", but I think it'd be smart to focus on keywords like these for 2 reasons:

1. When you optimize for these, I think you'll find that you'll begin ranking for your main term "be your own boss" anyway.
2. A term like "how to be your own boss" appears to be more targetted and could possibly have higher commercial intent, thus lending revenue and traffic earlier in the project.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jamespatterson

MY QUESTION:

Haha here goes... How do I get my site ranked number one for the google term: "be your own boss"?

-James Patterson

P.S. Just being silly. I realize there is quite a lot of competition for that keyword. My real question is how can I get on the first page of google for a broader keyword? And how do I figure out which broad keywords to go for? (And how do I find them in the first place?)

Hi James
I did some research just for fun

on your keyword "be your own boss"
What I found is the broad traffic to that keyword is 487 searches per day and the exact search is 178 searches per day.Total competing web sites that mention your keywords is 2,080,000

Here is what you'll need to get on the first page of Google for the keywords "be your own boss" Purchase an aged domain name that is greater than 13 years old with all of the keywords in the domain name. Purchasing an aged domain name will be of great help to you for PR ranking. Then make sure that your keywords are in all of the following:
Title Tag, URL, Description Tag, Header Tag.

Then start building the Backlinks to your web site and remember the quantity and quality of backlinks is very important. So here is a little help of what you need.

2 (.edu) or (.gov) backlinks pointing to your site.
134 Page backlinks pointing to your website.
209 Index pages point to your website.

I hope this has been of some help to you.

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jamespatterson

14 years ago

Very good points but then again how do I go about finding these keywords through google external keywords? Should I be looking for low traffic? How do I know if the keyword is broad enough to be a winner?

-James Patterson

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jamespatterson

Very good points but then again how do I go about finding these keywords through google external keywords? Should I be looking for low traffic? How do I know if the keyword is broad enough to be a winner?

-James Patterson

My method for adwords external is something like this:

1. Type in your main keyword, make sure the "synonyms" box is checked and once the results are populated, select "exact" from the drop down on the right.
2. Look at the traffic... something that has "insufficient" data - I'd normally ignore this.
3. A lot of it is just using your head to determine whether or not you think someone is actually typing these things in... and how frequently. One that looked good to me, but didn't make much sense was "be your own boss make money online". I just don't think many people are actually typing that in.

I'll take the list of potential keyword phrases I found and simply search them in Google. I'll look at the total amount of results (be it 1,000,000 or 100,000), then look at the types of pages showing in the top 10 organic listings. If you see a lot of sub-pages or some social media sites (scribd, article directories, squidoo, etc) then chances are it's not very difficult. If there's mainly root domains and trusted sources (cnn.com etc) then the term is probably more competitive.

Something that's always important to me is commercial intent.. so I'll take into consideration the amount of ppc ads appearing next to the results and what types of advertisers are there as well to figure out if people are actually making money from this keyword.

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jamespatterson

14 years ago

Wow yeah I've never looked into it that deeply. I really appreciate this advice.

Hopefully I can start some decent SEO work on my website. I'm giving you a thanks for that last post because it was quite helpful.

-James Patterson

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14 years ago

Welcome back. When it comes to using subdomains vs. individual domains, what is your preference? In what ways have you used each technique and what were the results?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by textbox

Welcome back. When it comes to using subdomains vs. individual domains, what is your preference? In what ways have you used each technique and what were the results?

Ooh, this is a good one!

I really only use subdomains when I'm doing local stuff as it's part of my strategy to completely and utterly dominate the local listings... what I do here has often removed all of the other local competitors and left my site next to the map all alone!

My preference is individual domains, but for several reasons:

1. I prefer to "own" at least 4-5 of the top 10 results with my own properties, all with links pointing towards my main "hub" site.

2. I'm a big fan of the "linkwheel" type setup, but I take it a step further. I'll build my own industry resources (to get those good links that aren't really available to commercial websites and to establish my company or myself as an expert on the subject).

However, in terms of ranking for a specific keyword, I don't think either method really has an advantage over another, just different ways to do the same thing. I'm always testing and collecting data so it's just easier for me to use separate domains.

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russriedle

14 years ago

You had mentioned dominating local listings. I'm strongly considering starting a business that helps offline local businesses create an online presence and for those who are already online to increase their rankings. Could you go into more detail about how you use SEO to dominate local listings?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by russriedle

You had mentioned dominating local listings. I'm strongly considering starting a business that helps offline local businesses create an online presence and for those who are already online to increase their rankings. Could you go into more detail about how you use SEO to dominate local listings?

I'm considering it... but I'm also considering doing an ebook on this. I don't know how I feel about giving away the golden egg so to speak though.. this is something I've only ran across 1 other person doing (and he's not even doing it to the max benefit...). It's literally the only thing I've ever found in SEO that has to be a loophole or something... it works THAT well.

However, for the time being I'll point you in the right direction:

* Expand the local profile as much as possible, video, images... reviews.

* Local SEO runs essentially on citations from major data providers. There's tons of lists around that list the important ones, thought it's some of the unmentioned ones that really put the icing on the cake as far as this method is concerned.

* Google Maps likes to rank businesses according to proximity to city centroid... any hyper-local information you can provide about your business helps.. phone numbers, physical addresses, associations...etc.

That should be enough to get your gears spinning

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russriedle

14 years ago

LOL....I had a feeling you would say that but since the title does say, "Ask the SEO Guy Anything!", I thought I'd ask. Thanks for the pointers.

How about this....since I was the first to ask how 'bout I get a review copy of your ebook when it's complete?

I'm also adept at proofreading and could help there as well.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by russriedle

LOL....I had a feeling you would say that but since the title does say, "Ask the SEO Guy Anything!", I thought I'd ask. Thanks for the pointers.

How about this....since I was the first to ask how 'bout I get a review copy of your ebook when it's complete?

I'm also adept at proofreading and could help there as well.

Sure thing, if I decide to go that route. Or you could hit me up on MSN. My biggest concern is hordes of people using this and Google cracking down. I've gotten a lot of complaints from competitors, etc when using this for clients, it's not the most ethical thing in the world.. you're basically tricking Google into thinking that when a person searches for "los angeles web design" (this isn't a term that I've done this with, for all you sneaky back-engineering types) or whatever they're looking for your brand.

PM me for my MSN SN if you really want some help.

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FJM2010 14 years ago

Wow tons of great info, thanks for the local listing info as well..cheers
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imvaltaylor 14 years ago

ok Terry G , I'm not a warrior but I am new to this site as of today and I am in training so please don't get upset with the simplicity of my question related to this post. I want to do this. I want to market my business locally and and get ranked on the 1st page of google. if I understand this correctly I need to set up subdomains for the surrounding cities like houston.mysite.com and the cities surrounding houston as subdomain and just market the same site, include google maps and images? and of course get the right keywords. I am understanfing you? Val
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TimD

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

I'm considering it... but I'm also considering doing an ebook on this. I don't know how I feel about giving away the golden egg so to speak though.. this is something I've only ran across 1 other person doing (and he's not even doing it to the max benefit...). It's literally the only thing I've ever found in SEO that has to be a loophole or something... it works THAT well.

However, for the time being I'll point you in the right direction:

* Expand the local profile as much as possible, video, images... reviews.

* Local SEO runs essentially on citations from major data providers. There's tons of lists around that list the important ones, thought it's some of the unmentioned ones that really put the icing on the cake as far as this method is concerned.

* Google Maps likes to rank businesses according to proximity to city centroid... any hyper-local information you can provide about your business helps.. phone numbers, physical addresses, associations...etc.

That should be enough to get your gears spinning

Terry, this is pure gold. If you do create a package - put me first on your list. I think this is an enormous untapped market. If you can crack the 10-box, that's got to be the fastest way to the top of the page 1 for local companies.

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billionareHuman

14 years ago

have you seen this pattern of traffic from google: 10 visitors a day, 30 visitors a day, 100 visitors a day. It seems to happen for many of my sites? Once they are 100 a day I tend to think I've earned a little bit of trust.

How long does it approximately take you to earn trust for a website where the traffic tap is turned on?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by billionareHuman

have you seen this pattern of traffic from google: 10 visitors a day, 30 visitors a day, 100 visitors a day. It seems to happen for many of my sites? Once they are 100 a day I tend to think I've earned a little bit of trust.

How long does it approximately take you to earn trust for a website where the traffic tap is turned on?

This gets into that whole "does google collect visitor data?" category. I've thought about this a lot and basically came to the conclusion that Google PROBABLY isn't really collecting bounce rate data or anything else of the sort, so if true, what is actually happening here?

I think that the normalization of rankings process is to blame for this effect. When you perform a search in Google, they're actually doing a "wet finger in the air" type of thing to figure out where sites are ranked, pulling from your local datacenters and collecting a sort of "average". This happens all over, producing different rankings in different cities, especially early in a sites promotion.

10 people a day probably means you're beginning to be higher in the rankings in certain geographic areas, 30 people = it's spreading and becoming "normalized" over a larger amount of datacenters, etc. Now I've got no doubt that the rate of normalization can be affected by trust.

With the link building that I do, and advocate for others, trust isn't really an issue. The key is creating a natural, well balanced link profile.

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billionareHuman

14 years ago

great advise thanks Terry

How important is it to add content on a regular basis? How often do you recommend adding fresh content especially for new sites. I have seen a site gain Trust on links alone with no content updates but I have seen other sites gain no Trust from just link building an needing fresh content to have a change in rankings. I guess it's a combination of the 2?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by billionareHuman

great advise thanks Terry

How important is it to add content on a regular basis? How often do you recommend adding fresh content especially for new sites. I have seen a site gain Trust on links alone with no content updates but I have seen other sites gain no Trust from just link building an needing fresh content to have a change in rankings. I guess it's a combination of the 2?

I think it really depends on the niche of the site. A news site should have regular updates, while a store... probably not so much. My rule here is to just focus on the reader.. are they looking for tons of fresh content? On an authority resource site it isn't necessary, as long as they're getting their questions answered by the available content. Just whatever makes sense.

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tamtu

14 years ago

Would you please clear this for me...when I am done optimizing the home page and would like to optimize another page. Will obtaining back links from the same sites as for homepage reduce the value of the back link for the new page or do I have to get them from different set of sites?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tamtu

Would you please clear this for me...when I am done optimizing the home page and would like to optimize another page. Will obtaining back links from the same sites as for homepage reduce the value of the back link for the new page or do I have to get them from different set of sites?

Get as many separate sites as possible to link to your domain, whether it be homepage, internal page.. whatever. I've often found that sites aren't ranked by the amount of total incoming links... they're actually ranked by the amount of separate sites linking to them. It's a must to build links to other pages as well, spread them out!

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Stephen Liew

14 years ago

Hi SEO Guru,

My questions will be

1) Does hyphenated Domains affect SEO ranking ?

2) Do we really need keyword related domain name or any domain name will also get high ranking in Google ?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jtliewim

Hi SEO Guru,

My questions will be

1) Does hyphenated Domains affect SEO ranking ?

2) Do we really need keyword related domain name or any domain name will also get high ranking in Google ?

Cheers,
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1. Nope. The only thing this really effects would be brand building and recognition... you'll probably see a lower amount of type-ins, etc.

2. Nope. I've found that as long as you have the keywords somewhere in your url (can be a page name, etc) you'll get whatever benefits that can be had from this.

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pengerik 14 years ago

Regarding importance of domain name, it's a real bonus to have your main keywords in the domain name. The age of the domain also works in your favour, so new domain with/without keywords in it, normally takes a tad more work/time to get ranked.
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dubo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Get as many separate sites as possible to link to your domain, whether it be homepage, internal page.. whatever. I've often found that sites aren't ranked by the amount of total incoming links... they're actually ranked by the amount of separate sites linking to them. It's a must to build links to other pages as well, spread them out!

That's answer my question too.
Now, it make sense for me how make my internal page can be high rank too...

My question:
1. Do you know how Yahoo rank the page, since it is difficult for me to get on top rank on Yahoo. I just curious to know :confused:

2. Sorry to be dumb, but I honestly don't know about it. What is backlinking? How can we create backlink and made it effective?

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sanjid112 14 years ago

Originally Posted by dubo

2. Sorry to be dumb, but I honestly don't know about it. What is backlinking? How can we create backlink and made it effective?

I have that same question with dubo above there...
Can u explain to me? :confused:
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billionareHuman

14 years ago

as long as they're getting their questions answered by the available content

your right about that and that's how I thought Google would think aswell, it makes sense. That's where Google should be collecting user behaviour data and ranking based on that however you said you think they are probably not?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by billionareHuman

your right about that and that's how I thought Google would think aswell, it makes sense. That's where Google should be collecting user behaviour data and ranking based on that however you said you think they are probably not?

No, I don't believe they are. For an information resource like the one described above, assume the visitor searches for "term x" and lands on your page "term x information". If you're doing a good job providing a useful site with great usability, they wont' need to browse around the site and view tons of pages before satisfying their needs... meaning: the more effective and knowledgeable your articles, the higher the bounce rate. Theoretically speaking.

So if Google was collecting this data... I think bounce rate would be the most important metric to them.. and considering what I've said above, they'd be limiting the amount of truly useful content available through their engine.

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14 years ago

I have a question: What is the best way to get FAST SERP?

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FreshMedia

14 years ago

Hi, I just made a post before finding this one. I was wondering on the differences between wordtracker and google. I found a good keyword that had 6,600 global searches a month in google. This was with a "phrase" search. I'm assuming this calculates to around 200 searches a day. Why does wordtracker only show 15 searches a day. Who should I trust? Thanks.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by FreshMedia

Hi, I just made a post before finding this one. I was wondering on the differences between wordtracker and google. I found a good keyword that had 6,600 global searches a month in google. This was with a "phrase" search. I'm assuming this calculates to around 200 searches a day. Why does wordtracker only show 15 searches a day. Who should I trust? Thanks.

With the G adwords external tool it's important to select "exact" from the drop down box on the top right to get an accurate number.

I don't really recommend using wordtracker for anything except discovering possible keyword combinations etc... I've found that their traffic estimates are off by a LONG shot.

I normally base my predictions on the adwords external tool, but also take into consideration data that I get from google trends... by taking a keyword that I rank number 1 for and putting the new keyword against it. Since I rank number 1 I DO know the traffic for that term and I can compare if the 2nd is higher or lower on the graph to get an estimate.

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FreshMedia

14 years ago

Thanks TerryG. I got some responses from my post and they also recommend not to trust wordtrakcer.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by FreshMedia

Thanks TerryG. I got some responses from my post and they also recommend not to trust wordtrakcer.

NP

I think you'll find that's the general consensus among the knowledgeable.

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Intrepreneur

14 years ago

On line 666 of google's key alogrythm what is the line of code they are using?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

On line 666 of google's key alogrythm what is the line of code they are using?

Well, I'd put the code out but the big G would sue the pants off me. Here's a visualization:

Makes perfect sense, right?

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debra

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Well, I'd put the code out but the big G would sue the pants off me. Here's a visualization:

Makes perfect sense, right?

Hey Terry...

You got that graphic in a jpg to download?

I tried drawing it out but it turned out looking like some metamorphic goop! So much for the crayons.

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Originally Posted by debra

Hey Terry...

You got that graphic in a jpg to download?

I tried drawing it out but it turned out looking like some metamorphic goop! So much for the crayons.

Yep, it's available here: http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/6...ealgorithm.jpg
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nitikasnv 14 years ago

Hi,

As per my searches i found bing is providing better search results than
google.

As far as SEO results concern Google always provide me better results in terms of ranking of my site for targeted keywords and traffic.

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luhur99

14 years ago

hi there.. just want to ask you about this question , is it possible to get ezinearticle get index on page 1 google with competitor that have PR 5 or have competitive niche

if can how can I do that ..??

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by luhur99

hi there.. just want to ask you about this question , is it possible to get ezinearticle get index on page 1 google with competitor that have PR 5 or have competitive niche

if can how can I do that ..??

Getting indexed and getting ranked are different things.

To get a page on a top SERP position, after it have been indexed, of course, you'd have to build backlinks to it, from as high as possible PR pages on trusted sites.

EZA (EZineArticles) or any other article directory already has a good standing and generally speaking a high PR already, BUT Google and the gang (the other SE's) will rank pages individually...

So, even when you place an article with them, you shouldn't expect it to inherit the portal's PR w/o you doing any work, so to speak.

Basically, you stand a better chance to beat the PR5 competition on 1st page SERP's with an article on EZA, IF and only IF you work on it as you would do with any other page (properly research KW's, carefully write with on-page SEO in mind, etc...) and after publishing, starting to build backlinks to it...

You benefit from EZA's domain age, reputation (PR) etc... which you wouldn't have normally on your own fresh domain.

However, the work and investment involved would be such that I myself always avoid it and rather build all on my own domain (blog) in terms of efforts, only placing a few hand written articles on EZA and then other main article directories, but the focus still stays upon my own...

Guess it's a matter of choice. I prefer to own my content, not to be at the mercy of EZA...

There is one more thing to think of...

On EZA, each article will be a separate page.
You write 5 articles, you'll have 5 pages to work on...
The aggregated results from your efforts will go to EZA though...

On your own blog, for instance, each article you add and fight for it to get good rankings, will push up your main domain as well and help you, in the medium - long term future, get indexed faster and ranked higher for future to be written content on the same domain.

With EZA you always start from fresh...

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  I have the number 2 site for the term
  general life insurance Results 1 - 10 of about 87,300,000 for general life insurance
  generallifeinsurance.org
  the google keyword tool gave me this term is searched 4200 times a month and was worth something like $12
  I have 3 questions if you can help me that would be fantastic.
  I was in the number 1 spot and it was quite good now i am number 2 it is hardly worthwhile
  Why such a difference between 1 and 2?
  I was number 1 for less then a day why the sudden drop?
  (I have been number 2 for some months)
  The top site is a pr4 with many backlinks if I get more backlinks then it will i regain number 1? (thie site I wish to beat is 13 years old)
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Palaecro 14 years ago

Hey Terry,

I just have a few questions which I'd love to have your take on.

#1 - When launching a new site with a new domain how do you begin a backlinking campaign. In that how aggressive do you go right off the bat? I understand consistency is everything but I'm having trouble figuring out a good starting place. I've read conflicting information that says as low as 5-10 backlinks/week max at first and some others say you can go to 50/week for the first week then up to 300/week by week 4. What's your take on this.

Also as a follow up do you ever intentionally go after no-follow links to mix things up?

#2 - Your Favorite Gurus to study/follow? In regards to SEO and why?

#3 - Do Backlinks that are created in a profile of a forum account act the same as backlinks that are linked via a thread for the purpose of SEO? Or are they worthless until a post is made?

#4 - The 3 SEO/IM tools you cannot live without?

#5 - Not sure if you'll know this one, but the "Unsubscribe Strategy" where-by you target competitors using unsubscribe links in Adwords. Does this still work? Since I started fiddling around with Adwords recently trying to do this and Adwords kept dismissing the links as not having enough traffic to warrant their use.

Huge thanks in Advance!
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webbyworld 14 years ago

Hi Terry,

I have about 200 new websites I just put up. They are all privately registered, but all on the same shared C Block, and a lot of them have similar words in the domain name, like "Houston Texas" or "Garments for Sale". They all have original content, but because of the close domain names, close niche (different, but close), and they are all using the Thesis WP theme, I am worried about getting the same links to all of them.

I just don't want the websites to have all the same links and leave footprints. Also, I don't want links from bad neighborhoods or properties linking to porn and gambling websites.

My only concerns are having good clean links that won't get me in the sandbox or trip a filter.

How should I get different links for them?

If I submit all the sites to Web directories, Web 2.0 sites, Articles links, Press release links for them will it work ??

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realtorkimberly 14 years ago

Of course Terry, I understood all of that one...... I get it..... lol
Sincerely though thanks for all your info.
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LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Amenda Jessera

I have a question: What is the best way to get FAST SERP?

If you mean getting indexed quickly, social bookmarking will do that. In terms of getting ranked quickly... choose a low competition niche and get a direct match domain name. If you meant something else, let me know!
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abpanama

14 years ago

Thanks for the free help.

Until a few days ago my site (abpanama) was on the page 1 of google for several terms, including "panama real estate" and "panama real estate listings"
Now my site is nowhere to be found? It seems like it no longer appears in Googles index.
If I search google for "abpanama.com - I get this result as #1:

UK - Gas - Electricity - Electricity Supplier - Gas Supplier - Gas ...
Electric meter electric meters electric shaver electric skillet electric stove electric stoves electric supply electric utility electric violins electric ...
Panama Real Estate | Panama Property Listings | Investments - Cached - Similar -

I have no idea who or what this site is and how it is linking to my site.

Similarly, if I search "panama real estate listings" on page 3 or 4 this appears:

UK - Gas - Electricity - Electricity Supplier - Gas Supplier - Gas ...
Smart Meter Technology provides real business energy solutions, saving time and money, it can also improve the effect business has on the environment. more ...
utilities4u.co.uk/ - Cached - Similar -

Clearly the above site has nothing to do with 'panama real estate listings'
I have contacted my host and the other sites host (different companies) who say it is not their issue

Any ideas - is this a google glitch or virus, or ?? I have tested my site and don;t see any issues, nor does anything show in my google webmaster account
And more importantly, how can I fix it and restore my sites rankings?
I am losing a lot of business and traffic.

Any help would be much appreciated

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by abpanama

Thanks for the free help.

Until a few days ago my site (abpanama) was on the page 1 of google for several terms, including "panama real estate" and "panama real estate listings"
Now my site is nowhere to be found? It seems like it no longer appears in Googles index.
If I search google for "abpanama.com - I get this result as #1:

UK - Gas - Electricity - Electricity Supplier - Gas Supplier - Gas ...
Electric meter electric meters electric shaver electric skillet electric stove electric stoves electric supply electric utility electric violins electric ...
Panama Real Estate | Panama Property Listings | Investments - Cached - Similar -

I have no idea who or what this site is and how it is linking to my site.

Similarly, if I search "panama real estate listings" on page 3 or 4 this appears:

UK - Gas - Electricity - Electricity Supplier - Gas Supplier - Gas ...
Smart Meter Technology provides real business energy solutions, saving time and money, it can also improve the effect business has on the environment. more ...
utilities4u.co.uk/ - Cached - Similar -

Clearly the above site has nothing to do with 'panama real estate listings'
I have contacted my host and the other sites host (different companies) who say it is not their issue

Any ideas - is this a google glitch or virus, or ?? I have tested my site and don;t see any issues, nor does anything show in my google webmaster account
And more importantly, how can I fix it and restore my sites rankings?
I am losing a lot of business and traffic.

Any help would be much appreciated

PM me your URL and I'll take a peek.

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abpanama 14 years ago

Thanks - it is abpanama.com
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14 years ago

@abpanama - Your site has a lot of terrible incoming links. Footer links, sitewide rented links (which are easily detected now as most of them aren't showing any longer, but are still indexed in Y! site explorer). However, this doesn't seem to be causing the issue.

Google

A search for the title tags displaying in your G listing only pull up the original site, not yours. Very peculiar.

I checked for the regular culprits, meta refresh, etc... nothing. Can you take a look at your server logs and see if any of your site pages were edited recently? Is the site running off a DB (mysql..)? If you're using a script see if there are any updates to the script due to SQL injection or something of that nature.

Please, report back with your findings.

@F27 - Have you tried site:yourdomain.com to see if the pages are indexed?

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abpanama

14 years ago

I can't see anything unusual in the server logs or files being edited.
The properties on the site are pulled from a mysql database, but the content is static. How would I test the sql injection - whatever that is??

I just noticed too that the page rankl has dropped from 3 to zero. It is the cross ranking with the utilities site that confuses me most.

Thanks again for your help

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by abpanama

I can't see anything unusual in the server logs or files being edited.
The properties on the site are pulled from a mysql database, but the content is static. How would I test the sql injection - whatever that is??

I just noticed too that the page rankl has dropped from 3 to zero. It is the cross ranking with the utilities site that confuses me most.

Thanks again for your help

Man this sounds an awful lot like Meta Refresh..

Google

I'm telling you this has something to do with that. Your own pages are linking to them.

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abpanama

14 years ago

I have checked my site for external links and there are no links to that site!
Is there anyhitng else I can check or test?

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14 years ago

It's not going to be an external link if it's a meta refresh type exploit.

Read this: Stop 302 Redirects and Scrapers from Hijacking Web Page PR - Page Rank

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abpanama

14 years ago

If you do the same search in other search engines it comes up with zero results - this only seems to be happening in google.

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Fernando Veloso

14 years ago

Problem:

3 Year old site (more than 2 years top 5 for major keywords_) suddenly gets de-ranked to Google results page 5 for ALL keywords.

Nothing unusual in those sites: just unique content, relevant, and nothing weird. TO ME it looks a very personal (and handmade) penalization. Happened to more than 3 of my sites ALL in same day, October 28th 2008.

Question:

What do you advice?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

@abpanama - Google is faster, I'll bet you'll see this soon in the other engines as well. I spoofed my user agent as Googlebot, so it's not just targeted towards Google. Did you read the link I posted re: Meta Refresh?

@Fernando - PM me your urls.

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abpanama

14 years ago

ok, did a search of my pages on the server for any meta refresh tags and could not find any. Also checked htaccess for 302 redirects - nothing.
Anything else I can try?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by abpanama

ok, did a search of my pages on the server for any meta refresh tags and could not find any. Also checked htaccess for 302 redirects - nothing.
Anything else I can try?

Check all of your javascript includes as well. If that turns up nothing I guess submit here: Requesting reconsideration of your site - Webmasters/Site owners Help or you could try to reach out to matt cutts - Matt Cutts: Gadgets, Google, and SEO

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craigshinney 14 years ago

Wow, this is one of the best topics I've ever read through. Really appreciate you going to so much trouble!

I wanted to ask quickly about pingbacks. I recently started using Unique Article Wizard to submit my articles and I'm finding I'm getting lots of pingbacks that are awaiting my approval. Should I approve or delete them, and what are the benefits and/or drawbacks of doing so?

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abpanama 14 years ago

I did a search for meta refresh tags in the site and found nothing. I also looked for any 302 redirects and found nothing.
Anything else I can try?
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Fernando Veloso

14 years ago

Terry, sorry but i won't reveal the url's.

Guess i was expecting some possible ideas to what (maybe) happened to the sites!! Don't know, i am tired of reading about so many stuff... The sites are now on a new server, all WP fresh installs, and they don't go higher than page 5.

It's just damn weird.

Well, thanks anyway mate

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14 years ago

Well for general advice then..

* Target trusted, authority sites: the closer you can get to bbc.co.uk, cnn.com, whitehouse.gov, etc... 1 link hop away is great, 2 is good, etc .

* Remove/Stop building spammy links

* If you've got mainly 1 type of links (say.. directories for instance) balance out a bit. A diverse link profile is an effective one.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Well for general advice then..

* Target trusted, authority sites: the closer you can get to bbc.co.uk, cnn.com, whitehouse.gov, etc... 1 link hop away is great, 2 is good, etc .

* Remove/Stop building spammy links

* If you've got mainly 1 type of links (say.. directories for instance) balance out a bit. A diverse link profile is an effective one.

what do you mean by spammy links? do you mean leaving do follow links in other spammy sites?

thanks for reply Terry

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Well for general advice then..

* Target trusted, authority sites: the closer you can get to bbc.co.uk, cnn.com, whitehouse.gov, etc... 1 link hop away is great, 2 is good, etc .

* Remove/Stop building spammy links

* If you've got mainly 1 type of links (say.. directories for instance) balance out a bit. A diverse link profile is an effective one.

Is there a software product that you would recommend for generating quality one-way links? Currently I'm looking at Brute Force Linking Loophole.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Well for general advice then..

* Target trusted, authority sites: the closer you can get to bbc.co.uk, cnn.com, whitehouse.gov, etc... 1 link hop away is great, 2 is good, etc .

* Remove/Stop building spammy links

* If you've got mainly 1 type of links (say.. directories for instance) balance out a bit. A diverse link profile is an effective one.

What are some SEO tricks to get hubpages to rank higher?

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Seekness

14 years ago

Hi Terry, quick question.

I just recently changed the link structure on my domain from http://www.site.com to http://site.com

Will all of the existing backlinks that point to my site via http://www.site.com now be rendered useless by Google?

And going forward, will I only get value out of backlinks that point to http://site.com ?

Thanks!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by dandee0014

Hi Terry, quick question.

I just recently changed the link structure on my domain from http://www.site.com to http://site.com

Will all of the existing backlinks that point to my site via http://www.site.com now be rendered useless by Google?

And going forward, will I only get value out of backlinks that point to http://site.com ?

Thanks!

Do a wildcard 301 redirect to the new url. You'll lose between 1 and 10% of your incoming link strength, but shouldn't matter much.

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lonniewa2

14 years ago

I have a website that today is ranking number five that get decent traffic in the #5 spot. The only problem is that every 1-2 weeks my website split position with the website in the #6 spot. When this happen my traffic dries up and so does traffic.

Have anyone else ever experience this if if so what did you do to finally take that spot for good. The website is endless.com that I am trying to overtake.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by lonniewa2

I have a website that today is ranking number five that get decent traffic in the #5 spot. The only problem is that every 1-2 weeks my website split position with the website in the #6 spot. When this happen my traffic dries up and so does traffic.

Have anyone else ever experience this if if so what did you do to finally take that spot for good. The website is endless.com that I am trying to overtake.

That's a pretty strong site you're up against. However, here's a little trick that's helped me from time to time:

Identify the strongest page on your site, add a link to whatever page you're trying to rank pointing towards that page with your anchor text. (assuming this isn't going to be homepage -> homepage).

In any case, more and better links will solve this issue.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by serps

First of all I like to Thank Terry for huge contribution here and starting with this thread. This thread is really great and i got lots of knowledge so its really cool to be here.

I have some questions for you terry.
How to generate Leads?

I like to start Affiliate Marketing so what basic things i have to do on SEO part?

Leads are generated by driving targeted traffic to the sales mechanism. Most people will drive targeted traffic through PPC or SEO, email campaigns or article marketing.

As far as starting with SEO, do some initial keyword research, pick some terms with high commercial intent, low competition, snatch a domain name and get some quality, keyword focused content and a well optimized site structure.

After that you get to begin the FUN task of link building!

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Pnigro 14 years ago

I have a Wordpress site dedicated to the "get your ex back" niche.

I'm writing articles for different keywords and I want these articles to rank well for their respective keywords.

My questions:

1) Since my whole site is dedicated to one specific topic, should I just have one category where I put all my articles?

2) Should I let Google index this category? Why or why not?

3) Should I worry about this stuff?
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Kristi61 14 years ago

SEO Guy,

Here's a tough one for you! Look at my thread on this forum:

Emergency! SEO Experts! My horses lives are depending on me!

I need all the help I can get!

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  I have 20 sites I am promoting using a cpa offer for car insurance in a coaching program I am in.
  An example is Free Automobile Insurance Quotes for Missouri
  The others are similar...see the very bottom. I bought some articles and I am basically just subbing in the key word name of each site and domain
  (automobileinsurancequotesmissouri) in each article where insurance is named. I swapped my domain insurance keyword for insurance about 3 times, including the article title.
  
  One of first thing I did was put in keywords. Each site has the same keywords pretty much,just changing the state or city for each domain. I just did a copy from source below.
  
  After I put in my articles, should I now change my keywords to equal the articles titles and make my tags the article titles also? I am not too sure what my tags are for. I have a software called blogfinder and I need to name my tags.
  Thanks in advance for any advice.
  
  meta name="keywords" content="automobile insurance quote missouri,
  missouri automobile insurance quotes,missouri free automobile insurance quotes, missouri online automobile insurance quotes,missouri automobile insurance rate quote,missouri auto insurance quote, missouri auto insurance company,missouri automobile insurance rate quotes" />
  <link rel="canonical" href="http://automobileinsurancequotesmissouri.com/" />
  
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  carinsurancesmissouri.org
  carinsurancesohio.net
  carinsurancesphiladelphia.org
  carinsurancesrichardson.net
  
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  budgetcarinsuranceatlanta.com
  budgetcarinsuranceflorida.org
  budgetcarinsurancelosangeles.net
  budgetcarinsurancemissouri.com
  budgetcarinsurancemiami.com
  budgetcarinsuranceohio.net
  budgetcarinsuranceohio.com
  budgetcarinsurancetampa.com
  budgetcarinsurancetexas.com
  
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  sportscarinsuranceorlando.com
  sportscarinsurancephiladelphia.com
  sportscarinsurancetampa.org
  sportscarinsurancetexas.net
  
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  automobileinsurancequotesmissouri.com
  automobileinsurancequotesnewjersey.net
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gtrplyr

14 years ago

Just a question about domain length..

I knwo that if my main keyword is not available as a domain name, often its ok to ass a suffix to it in order to get the domain...ie "purplewidgetinfo.com" if "purplewidget.com" is already taken.

But what if adding a suffix makes the domain real long...example:

"professionalgreenwidgetsonline.com" if I am trying to rank for "professional green widgets"

What negative impact, if any, will that have on me getting ranked and using articles to get backlinks, etc..?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by gtrplyr

Just a question about domain length..

I knwo that if my main keyword is not available as a domain name, often its ok to ass a suffix to it in order to get the domain...ie "purplewidgetinfo.com" if "purplewidget.com" is already taken.

But what if adding a suffix makes the domain real long...example:

"professionalgreenwidgetsonline.com" if I am trying to rank for "professional green widgets"

What negative impact, if any, will that have on me getting ranked and using articles to get backlinks, etc..?

Ha! A bit of a freudian slip there, "ass a suffix".

These seem to rank fine, though, I wouldn't want to be a position where google is truncating my domain url.... so I'd keep it under 70 characters or so, at most. Also, shorter is better for type-ins and people linking to you, in most cases.

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josephalford 14 years ago

hey LookItsMeTerryG

i m new in this field...i need ur help pls guide me i want 2 start seo work but i want 2 know from a to z.also tell me shall i create blog for seo or u prefer website?
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Leads4Builders

14 years ago

Hey Terry,

Is there an SEO Reporting Software that you use to send reports to clients? I do it the old fashioned way with Excel, and was wondering if there's an affordable software out there that will allow robust reporting and white label reports I can send to clients.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Leads4Builders

Hey Terry,

Is there an SEO Reporting Software that you use to send reports to clients? I do it the old fashioned way with Excel, and was wondering if there's an affordable software out there that will allow robust reporting and white label reports I can send to clients.

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I don't do reports for clients, other than send them Google Analytics every month (and that's only in some cases where we're doing conversion optimization, etc). If you're clients are THAT intense about exactly what spot there were they particular day at that particular time, I'd drop them

Anyone that's hired me knows I don't deal with the daily "my site dropped a spot" phone calls. That's one of my main criteria before taking on a client, I ask "are you going to call me every day and ask me why your site is doing this or that?". I don't focus on ranks, I focus on ROI because in the end that's all that matters.

However, to answer your question: for Mac I'd recommend "Advanced Web Ranking", and for PC go buy a mac

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Leads4Builders

14 years ago

I agree...I focus on ROI too, however, I think it's critical to give them reports for those first few months when they aren't ranking yet. If not, I've found that they wonder if you're really doing anything, even though you're working hard behind the scenes to get their site ranked. I give them the expectation that it can take a few months, but they often forget, or get impatient, so reporting their progress is key.

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I don't do reports for clients, other than send them Google Analytics every month (and that's only in some cases where we're doing conversion optimization, etc). If you're clients are THAT intense about exactly what spot there were they particular day at that particular time, I'd drop them

Anyone that's hired me knows I don't deal with the daily "my site dropped a spot" phone calls. That's one of my main criteria before taking on a client, I ask "are you going to call me every day and ask me why your site is doing this or that?". I don't focus on ranks, I focus on ROI because in the end that's all that matters.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Leads4Builders

I agree...I focus on ROI too, however, I think it's critical to give them reports for those first few months when they aren't ranking yet. If not, I've found that they wonder if you're really doing anything, even though you're working hard behind the scenes to get their site ranked. I give them the expectation that it can take a few months, but they often forget, or get impatient, so reporting their progress is key.

I guess I'm ruthless... If that was the case, I'd say "cool, go work with someone else." I've never used contracts with my clients or needed to. However, I screen them pretty hard... I'll accept maybe 1/10 leads. It's a luxury that comes with years in business and a rolodex that requires its own room

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Gabung 14 years ago

Wow TerryG, you are so nice giving free seo advices for others. Two thumbs for you...
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jimmy506 14 years ago

Hi Terry,

I have several domain names that are names of different products that I want to sell on my website.
In other words: The product name is in the URL.

I can't afford to have separate hosting for each one and I've heard that Google doesn't like it when you just redirect lots different URLs to your main selling site.

Do you know of a way I can make use of these domain names? Should I redirect them to a free blog, put the product on that and then direct them to my my site to make the purchase?

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  Hmm... not sure what I was thinking in my last post.
  
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StevenK 14 years ago

Terry,

Is it true that Google does not like affiliate sites and purposely ranks them low?

I recently read a report written by a so-called SEO expert that an affliate site does not stand a chance to obtain a ranking in the first 5 pages, regardless of quality content, large number quality backlinks, etc.

It was his opinion that Google basically considers affiliate sites to be spam sites and provide no value or experience to the user.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by F27

Yes I tried my domain but it's not, can you see it:

twitterscripts.net

Submit here: Bing URL Submission and also ensure that you've got a robots.txt file appropriately setup (I didn't see one), pinging the bot might help as well.

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firewife

14 years ago

hi , u are cool
and i just want to know under what situation , the google cross index thing happen ?

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14 years ago

@AllThings - Yeah, that's part of it. Basically, there are 2 rules of thumb when it comes to highly effective link building:

1. Look as natural as possible. Think to yourself "What kind of links would a legitimately awesome site in my niche acquire?" The answer isn't 80% anchor text links with the same keyword etc... it's probably a lot of links with "click here" or "original site" or something leading back to your site. Bloggers and webmasters of high authority sites don't care about your anchor text when linking to good content.

2. Build a well rounded, diverse link profile. Spread out your links evenly among all of the different types: 1 part directories, 1 part articles, 1 part social networking, 1 part web 2.0, etc. If you have 90% links from the footers of spammy sites, this is easily detected and will be dealt with accordingly.

@firewife - Look for my answer a few posts above.

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abpanama

14 years ago

Thanks for all your help.
One other strange this I found - in the google results for sites linking to the utilities site, other than abpanama there are several other sites that are also owned by me. However the sites are hosted on different server accounts, and when I check the log files nothing has been updated or accessed for months. When I check these sites they also don't show any outgoing links.
I will ask my programmer to check the java includes as I don;t know how to do that.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by abpanama

Thanks for all your help.
One other strange this I found - in the google results for sites linking to the utilities site, other than abpanama there are several other sites that are also owned by me. However the sites are hosted on different server accounts, and when I check the log files nothing has been updated or accessed for months. When I check these sites they also don't show any outgoing links.
I will ask my programmer to check the java includes as I don;t know how to do that.

Figure out what the sites share in common, could be something as simple as that popup you have that has been compromised.

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abpanama 14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Figure out what the sites share in common, could be something as simple as that popup you have that has been compromised.

The only thing all the sites have in common is
an aweber sign up form
all domains registered with godaddy
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bgmacaw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

1. Look as natural as possible. Think to yourself "What kind of links would a legitimately awesome site in my niche acquire?" The answer isn't 80% anchor text links with the same keyword etc... i

I have a slight disagreement with this because, while it's right to vary anchor text for several reasons, it's something that makes people unduly Googlenoid.

Most people don't bother to get more than a few hundred incoming links. With that small number the anchor text variations don't seem to matter that much. The number is too small for Google to accurately analyze. Even very small numbers of outliers can skew the distribution. As one gets more links, Google has more data and can make a more accurate analysis.

So, if you don't have a lot of links, you're not ready to worry about this yet. Google isn't going to care that the 10 links pointing to your site have the same anchor text but if you have 10,000 total links with all of them having the same anchor text, they'll take notice.

Also, the keyword used to anchor link makes a difference. If you link on a non-commercial word, like your name, this doesn't seem to cause the Google algorithm to take any notice. But if you're linking on something like '****', 'viagra' or some other highly competitive or spammy keyword you'll get heavy scrutiny quickly.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

I have a slight disagreement with this because, while it's right to vary anchor text for several reasons, it's something that makes people unduly Googlenoid.

Most people don't bother to get more than a few hundred incoming links. With that small number the anchor text variations don't seem to matter that much. The number is too small for Google to accurately analyze. Even very small numbers of outliers can skew the distribution. As one gets more links, Google has more data and can make a more accurate analysis.

So, if you don't have a lot of links, you're not ready to worry about this yet. Google isn't going to care that the 10 links pointing to your site have the same anchor text but if you have 10,000 total links with all of them having the same anchor text, they'll take notice.

Also, the keyword used to anchor link makes a difference. If you link on a non-commercial word, like your name, this doesn't seem to cause the Google algorithm to take any notice. But if you're linking on something like '****', 'viagra' or some other highly competitive or spammy keyword you'll get heavy scrutiny quickly.

Yeah, exactly. I agree with this 100%. I should have clarified to include these points. It DOES seem that the amount of anchor text links you can have without being filtered is dependent on the niche more than anything.

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lonniewa2

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Yeah, exactly. I agree with this 100%. I should have clarified to include these points. It DOES seem that the amount of anchor text links you can have without being filtered is dependent on the niche more than anything.

Can you guys give a ball park figure number when deciding if it is time to vary the anchor text? If I get 500 links with the same anchor text would that raise some eyebrows at Google?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by lonniewa2

Can you guys give a ball park figure number when deciding if it is time to vary the anchor text? If I get 500 links with the same anchor text would that raise some eyebrows at Google?

It depends if you've got 0 other links or 2,000 other total backlinks. If 500 is a relatively small number compared to your whole, it shouldn't be an issue.

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lonniewa2

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

It depends if you've got 0 other links or 2,000 other total backlinks. If 500 is a relatively small number compared to your whole, it shouldn't be an issue.

What I meant starting with zero links on a new website. I want to try and rank for my main keyword and your main keyword only. At what number would you start varying the anchor text?

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bgmacaw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lonniewa2

Can you guys give a ball park figure number when deciding if it is time to vary the anchor text? If I get 500 links with the same anchor text would that raise some eyebrows at Google?

It's too complex and variable to give an exact number. 500 links anchored on "Lonnie" that are distributed across blog comments, social sites and forums on many sites won't be a problem. 500 links anchored on "Viagra" from a small group of sites might give you trouble if things aren't squeaky clean.

Just use good judgment, use care with automated link building tools and don't be stupid and you're unlikely to have any problems.

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LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago

Originally Posted by anthonyronnie

Websites that use only flash- how are they the first rank?

Most likely it has to do with their backlink strategy. If you can give me a specific example I'll be able to provide more insight.

In my experience, while targeting a major 3 character keyword with over 188,000,000 results in Google, there is a well known international brand sitting around number 5, with their "domain.com/noflash.html" page. This seems to often be the deciding factor when the niche is REALLY competitive but the site has an otherwise strong backlink profile.
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debra

14 years ago

Hey Terry...

I waited to ask..then I resisted...now I can't help it.

I get asked all the time a question, as I'm sure you do too. I answer and the response is usually "huh" because I have a hard time putting it in newbie laymen terms. I even tried explaining with example. No workie.

So...here it goes:

What is the difference between a search engine spider, crawler and bot? And...what are thier functions?

Remember...2nd grade level. I'm not sure if all of us would be smarter than a 5th grader. (sorry...couldn't resist that either)

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by debra

Hey Terry...

I waited to ask..then I resisted...now I can't help it.

I get asked all the time a question, as I'm sure you do too. I answer and the response is usually "huh" because I have a hard time putting it in newbie laymen terms. I even tried explaining with example. No workie.

So...here it goes:

What is the difference between a search engine spider, crawler and bot? And...what are thier functions?

Remember...2nd grade level. I'm not sure if all of us would be smarter than a 5th grader. (sorry...couldn't resist that either)

I've never actually been asked this question. For all intents and purposes they're synonymous.

Sidestep a bit and answer the question with some generalities on how SE's work. I can sit here and spin my wheels telling you about how the crawling and indexing of a site is determined by index design, data structure, how the challenges of natural language processing are handled by the individual spiders, etc, etc, etc.

To break it down to a 2nd grade level, imagine the spider as a person in a library, they go to a shelf, grab a book (a website) read the book, take notes for later reference and archive the information to relay to someone else when asked.

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Shana_Adam

14 years ago

Hi I had a question,

How many people on the internet actually use " " to search

most ordinary people would not even know to use the quotation marks. In that case how accurate are the search results. Does it represent the ordinary customer that one is targetting

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Shana_Adam

Hi I had a question,

How many people on the internet actually use " " to search

most ordinary people would not even know to use the quotation marks. In that case how accurate are the search results. Does it represent the ordinary customer that one is targetting

How many people use that? I have no idea. I suppose if one was particularly determined, they would look at the AOL data that was released a while back for a definitive answer.

As for accuracy of results and demo representation, I'd say if someone is using this, they're a much more sophisticated user, which in my experience is a harder sell (they're more apt to search for reviews, look at SSL information etc), but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not a good target for your sales efforts. It's all relative to your niche.

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Chadisa

14 years ago

Hey LookItsMeTerryG,

Finding this thread is actually a God send because I am currently stuck with two of my clients and I can't for the life of me where I am going wrong.

Both clients weren't even ranked for their keywords before I began working with them. Their keywords are super competitive and very general. In both instances I got them to rank somewhere between 8 and 11 on Google in about a month or so. They are both established sites and have been around forever but never built links, etc.

My problem is no matter what I do I can't get them to move into the top 10. I know it's like playing king of the hill meaning the closer you get to the top of the hill the harder it becomes to reach it. I am building as many links as I think I can without going into spammer land. Any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Hey guys,

I've been a longtime lurker here browsing around (we're talking YEARS of this stuff) and I've decided to give something back. If you've got a SEO related question or need some advice, ask here and I'll answer!

About me:

I've been doing SEO professionally for clients for about 9 years now, have several of my own sites (read: more than 60) top 3 in Google and am a ridiculously intense data hound. All of my campaign efforts are recorded, analyzed and tweaked, thus: I'm not just rehashing information found elsewhere. The majority of my knowledge comes from the data produced by setting up several test sites in several niches.

Most importantly, I'm not selling anything here. Just offering some free advice from someone that's been around a while and has consistently produced top rankings.

Let's go!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chadisa

Hey LookItsMeTerryG,

Finding this thread is actually a God send because I am currently stuck with two of my clients and I can't for the life of me where I am going wrong.

Both clients weren't even ranked for their keywords before I began working with them. Their keywords are super competitive and very general. In both instances I got them to rank somewhere between 8 and 11 on Google in about a month or so. They are both established sites and have been around forever but never built links, etc.

My problem is no matter what I do I can't get them to move into the top 10. I know it's like playing king of the hill meaning the closer you get to the top of the hill the harder it becomes to reach it. I am building as many links as I think I can without going into spammer land. Any suggestions?

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Chadisa

PM me their urls and keywords. Alternatively you can hit me up on MSN (get my SN through a PM). It likely has something to do with the kind of backlinks you've been building.

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Vijay M

14 years ago

I use Seo4Firefox and was checking one of my keyword.

The site at 6th position started in 04 and its "Traffic Value" is listed as 78 and the site listed at 10 position has its "Traffic Value" at 30,000.

Does this "Traffic Value" reflect the traffic for the whole site or just for that keyword?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vijay M

I use Seo4Firefox and was checking one of my keyword.

The site at 6th position started in 04 and its "Traffic Value" is listed as 78 and the site listed at 10 position has its "Traffic Value" at 30,000.

Does this "Traffic Value" reflect the traffic for the whole site or just for that keyword?

I have no idea, that's a specific question for Aaron: SEO for Firefox Extension: Free SEO Toolbar Firefox Browser Plugin

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

I'd just vary it as you go.

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michael_nguyen

14 years ago

Is it ever worth analysing a keyword in quotes? So many people say look for keywords in quotes under 50k result pages blah blah. I believe that what matters is the strength of top 10 results.

Assuming I'm going along the right lines, how would you classify a strong site? Is it a PR of 4 or above with 3 figure backlinks ? Could you give an example?

With consistent backlink how many would you say is needed to go past the existing results and is it possible to give time frames.

Do you have ball park figures you could share suchs:

Scenario 1
First page competition
mainly PR 3 and below
Average backlinks according to Yahoo site explorer is ~ 400

Solution
~ 500 PR7 backlinks
Squidoo, hubpages, wordpress, blogger etc

Is it even possible to think like this and be close ? I've learnt
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marketing and he also says that some decisions are based on
gut instinct. Do you do this aswell?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Is it ever worth analysing a keyword in quotes? - Maybe, I don't really do this, but it could show you your "real" competition that are optimizing for this term.

How would you classify a strong site? - PR is a worthless metric for really seeing the strength of a site. I go to Y! Site explorer and MajesticSEO and view the kinds of backlinks the site has been acquiring. If they're mainly links anyone can get (blog comments, etc) then the site isn't so strong.. but if they're NYT editorials and such, the site is quite strong. An example would be Techcrunch.com

As far as ballpark figures, not really. Several things are needed in order to overtake a top listing, some of which are link velocity, link relevancy, position of your site within the overall niche, gross number of separate domains/ips linking to your site, etc. It isn't always just a numbers game.

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michael_nguyen

14 years ago

Thank you for the reply. I might just have to re evaluate my PR idea.

You make a good point about PR being a "worthless" metric because I had a pushchair niche website and within it's first month online, it had a PR of 3. If I didnt know better I would have thought that would be tough one to crack but all the backlinks I built to that site were from free websites. So thank you, I will take that into consideration!

Another question thanks.

What tools do you use to help you anaylse whether a keywords is worth pursuing apart from Y! and MajesticSEO. Do you use MNF ?

I use MNF and I find alot of rankable keywords for the clients but I feel the software might be targeting the "really" easy keywords and filtering out other keywords that might be as easy to rank.

Michael

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Well, I didn't mean all free sites were worthless, they still play their part in an overall link building strategy. So if what you're doing is working, don't stop!

I don't use MNF. I just use Majestic, Y! SiteExplorer and the Google Adwords external tool.

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michael_nguyen

14 years ago

Thanks. When you start building backlinks for a keyword, what is your time frame before you expect stable results?

As of now, my strategy is to create 4 - 5 backlinks a day and then bookmark each backlink. What do you feel is a safe number of backlinks to build per day?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by michael_nguyen

Thanks. When you start building backlinks for a keyword, what is your time frame before you expect stable results?

As of now, my strategy is to create 4 - 5 backlinks a day and then bookmark each backlink. What do you feel is a safe number of backlinks to build per day?

All of this is relative to the niche. I'm pretty good about generally making it front page in 4-6 weeks, then top 3 6-8 weeks later for MOST of my terms. Though, some of the more competitive ones have taken 12-15 weeks.

As far as a safe amount per day, I don't think there's really a such thing.. just use your head and don't get spammy.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

All of this is relative to the niche. I'm pretty good about generally making it front page in 4-6 weeks, then top 3 6-8 weeks later for MOST of my terms. Though, some of the more competitive ones have taken 12-15 weeks.

Can you tell us your backlink strategy in terms of eg bookmarking , squidoo etc or is this gold?

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maldoror

14 years ago

Your knowledge and experience are so much appreciated. Your generosity more so.

I am still going through this amazing post. Could you recommend any good SEO firms one could hire out for standard seo, 8 year old site pr3 , 5 keywords in a competitive niche. I tried the E Lance thing but my goodness it is messy. Are your services for hire?

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As far as a safe amount per day, I don't think there's really a such thing.. just use your head and don't get spammy.

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inter123

14 years ago

Hi.

A quick question: if my domain name (say is www.joejohnson.com) is totally unrelated to the keyword (dog training guide), how much more difficult will it be to rank then if the domain name included the keyword?

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VaultBoss

14 years ago

Originally Posted by inter123

Hi.

A quick question: if my domain name (say is www.joejohnson.com) is totally unrelated to the keyword (dog training guide), how much more difficult will it be to rank then if the domain name included the keyword?

Thanks.

Jim.

I cannot quantify the answer as in x times more... but you got it right yourself - it will be much harder than if you would have domain with the KW in it...

Actually, the niche being SO competitive anyway, I wouldn't even bother, if I were you...

Rather try to find a long tail Keyphrase with lower competition like "curly haired blonde pudels dog training" if you know what I mean

Joking aside, I bet you can find a good long tail KW to work with, that may also have the corresponding domain still free - go buy that.

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14 years ago

Well, I prefer to work smarter not harder... so I don't go for the shotgun blast approach.

I identify (and create) industry resources, authority sites and 99% of my efforts are built on building trust, not TONS AND TONS of links.

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michael_nguyen

14 years ago

I do niche marketing so my keywords for the clients might be 6 foot black table how would you go about things if your efforts were based on purely links? The use of normal web2.0 sites ?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by michael_nguyen

I do niche marketing so my keywords for the clients might be 6 foot black table how would you go about things if your efforts were based on purely links? The use of normal web2.0 sites ?

No, I'd look for manufacturers etc and try to get links from them. A good review or interview with a manufacturer will go a long way. A lot of times they'll put you in their press section, etc.

Although, I'm not sure that's such a good term to optimize for anyway. SEO is about ROI not bragging rights, IMHO

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michael_nguyen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

No, I'd look for manufacturers etc and try to get links from them. A good review or interview with a manufacturer will go a long way. A lot of times they'll put you in their press section, etc.

Although, I'm not sure that's such a good term to optimize for anyway. SEO is about ROI not bragging rights, IMHO

I made that term up but I have a veryyyyyy close term to that one of my clients have and as it's a buying keyword, I'm sure there will be ROI.

Thanks for your wisdom

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by michael_nguyen

I made that term up but I have a veryyyyyy close term to that one of my clients have and as it's a buying keyword, I'm sure there will be ROI.

Thanks for your wisdom

NP! Glad to hear you're providing your clients with actual value, something that the majority of our industry forgets about.

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michael_nguyen 14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

NP! Glad to hear you're providing your clients with actual value, something that the majority of our industry forgets about.

Yeah and I bust my gut doing it! In the month of July I created altogether ~ 150 niche sites, all buying keywords. Many have made sales and I'd say about 75% are currently on page 1 of Google. I've ended the service and now it's time for me to dominate.

1 full month working for clients on demand is too stressful for me I even forget to eat
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peter gibson

14 years ago

Here's my foray into the breech.

Terry. I've used Angela's backlinks for a few months now (along with Pauls) and on one domain they had me temporarily on the first page of google. Before this I was at around position 24.

After doing nothing else more than the usual (writing articles, submitting to EZA only with the relevant keyword link, social bookmarking, e.t.c...) I have now been placed at position 46. This is not the normal "dance" seeing as I've been there now for some time, regardless of my other link building methods.

I guess my question is this, since a number of A and P's links being turned off or turned to nofollow (due to spam), is my site being thrown to the wolves somehow? Since some of the sites in these packets are reporting spam links, is this possibly affecting my SERP?

This site is about 2 years old and has never been below position 26, however since applying these links and continuing in my normal link building strategies, the site has dropped a lot.

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Chadisa

14 years ago

Originally Posted by peter gibson

Here's my foray into the breech.

Terry. I've used Angela's backlinks for a few months now (along with Pauls) and on one domain they had me temporarily on the first page of google. Before this I was at around position 24.

After doing nothing else more than the usual (writing articles, submitting to EZA only with the relevant keyword link, social bookmarking, e.t.c...) I have now been placed at position 46. This is not the normal "dance" seeing as I've been there now for some time, regardless of my other link building methods.

I guess my question is this, since a number of A and P's links being turned off or turned to nofollow (due to spam), is my site being thrown to the wolves somehow? Since some of the sites in these packets are reporting spam links, is this possibly affecting my SERP?

This site is about 2 years old and has never been below position 26, however since applying these links and continuing in my normal link building strategies, the site has dropped a lot.

Yeah I am worried about that as well. Are we really hurting our sites by using Angela's and Paul's link strategy?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by peter gibson

Here's my foray into the breech.

Terry. I've used Angela's backlinks for a few months now (along with Pauls) and on one domain they had me temporarily on the first page of google. Before this I was at around position 24.

After doing nothing else more than the usual (writing articles, submitting to EZA only with the relevant keyword link, social bookmarking, e.t.c...) I have now been placed at position 46. This is not the normal "dance" seeing as I've been there now for some time, regardless of my other link building methods.

I guess my question is this, since a number of A and P's links being turned off or turned to nofollow (due to spam), is my site being thrown to the wolves somehow? Since some of the sites in these packets are reporting spam links, is this possibly affecting my SERP?

This site is about 2 years old and has never been below position 26, however since applying these links and continuing in my normal link building strategies, the site has dropped a lot.

I think you already know the answer to this question

I'm not going to comment on A & P's anymore since every time I say anything remotely negative I get tons of angry people essentially telling me to leave, etc.

If you're doing something that seems to be hurting your results, why not stop for a bit and see if you go back up?

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Chuck Avants

14 years ago

Thanks for your advice---it's a bit over my head but I see value in it.

I am trying to get going in the IM biz.
My technical skills are minimal at best.

What is a plan of action that would use minimal cash and provide an ongoing income of say $10 -$50 a week?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chuck Avants

Thanks for your advice---it's a bit over my head but I see value in it.

I am trying to get going in the IM biz.
My technical skills are minimal at best.

What is a plan of action that would use minimal cash and provide an ongoing income of say $10 -$50 a week?

Thanks, Chuck

This is a really broad question. I mean, this can be easily accomplished with Adsense or affiliate marketing. You'd probably have to do less work with the affiliate side of things, as less traffic would be needed to make $50 than with adsense.

I'd suggest doing some article based marketing (for affiliate stuff) or a blogspot blog for adsense. SEO for this project will be the critical element and probably the deciding factor whether or not the project is a success.

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sbbenchmarke

14 years ago

Hi,
Haven't posted much on here yet...just kind of getting started in the whole IM game and trying to figure things out.

Anyway here's my question: I'm thinking about putting together a bunch of minisites based around products and monetizing them with adsense. However I'm trying to keep the costs down so I'm wondering if I use .info domain names which are about a dollar; will it affect my rankings? Assuming SEO is the same, will I likely see a difference from having .com domains which cost about ten times as much?

Thanks in advance.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sbbenchmarke

Hi,
Haven't posted much on here yet...just kind of getting started in the whole IM game and trying to figure things out.

Anyway here's my question: I'm thinking about putting together a bunch of minisites based around products and monetizing them with adsense. However I'm trying to keep the costs down so I'm wondering if I use .info domain names which are about a dollar; will it affect my rankings? Assuming SEO is the same, will I likely see a difference from having .com domains which cost about ten times as much?

Thanks in advance.

Well, they say that .info will rank as well as .com .. but I've seen several keyword match domains keyword.com or buykeyword.com rank on a standard wordpress site without any content... can't say I've ever seen this for a .info.

However, the only issue could possibly be a lower trust for a .info, in which case a careful, well thought out link campaign focused on trust building should offset whatever negative factors that are tied to the domain.

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bgmacaw

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Well, they say that .info will rank as well as .com .. but I've seen several keyword match domains keyword.com or buykeyword.com rank on a standard wordpress site without any content... can't say I've ever seen this for a .info.

I have seen this with keyword match .info domains.

The problem .info's have more often is that the .com is already been used and has an active site that's been around for years and has old links and authority links. If the keyword is a popular one, there will be other authority sites sitting between you and a slot on page 1. Lastly, human approval of links to a .info is harder to get because of the spammy perception of them.

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frozen74

14 years ago

I have found a dropped domain about hotels let it cheaphotels.net and when i check google keyword tool with exact phrase
it gives 49,500 for cheap hotel and 27,100 results for cheap hotels (plural one) I checked competion by allinurl and sites like blogspot or ezine article so cheap hotel has more competion and cpc for cheap hotels is higher than cheap hotel. So my question is when i buy the domain cheaphotels.net which keyword shall i target cheap hotels or cheap hotel and how many article and how much time is neceserry to rank in page 1
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PS:allintitle results for cheap hotel is 37,000 and for cheap hotels is 18, 000
*for cheap hotel blogspot.com, Position: 13 youtube.com, Position: 19 youtube.com, Position: 20
* for cheap hotels ezinearticles.com at Position: 20
intitle:"cheap hotel" 13,400
intitle:"cheap hotels"2,770

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by frozen74

I have found a dropped domain about hotels let it cheaphotels.net and when i check google keyword tool with exact phrase
it gives 49,500 for cheap hotel and 27,100 results for cheap hotels (plural one) I checked competion by allinurl and sites like blogspot or ezine article so cheap hotel has more competion and cpc for cheap hotels is higher than cheap hotel. So my question is when i buy the domain cheaphotels.net which keyword shall i target cheap hotels or cheap hotel and how many article and how much time is neceserry to rank in page 1
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Target both of them in the same articles etc. It should be easy enough to work them into your content.

As far as how long, some people can do it in 4-6 weeks, others in 10+. Really depends on how effective your link building efforts are.

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sbbenchmarke 14 years ago

Thanks alot TerryG, I could see how the trust thing could affect how individual users perceive the site. If I decide to go that route, I'll definitely take that into consideration.
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AllThingsArePossible 14 years ago

Terry, do you recommend to direct all our websites in one hosting account or spread sites around with multiple hosting accounts for security reasons.

Also, what's your experience with seo in regular html sites and wordpress. Do one perform better than the other or it really does not matter?
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nicas_87

14 years ago

I need to know, how many links we need to create to uplift our page rank pr0 to pr1 ?

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LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago

Originally Posted by nicas_87

I need to know, how many links we need to create to uplift our page rank pr0 to pr1 ?

There's no definitive answer to this question. Here is some literature to help you understand the PR process a bit more:

United States Patent: 7058628

Here's the abstract from the patent application:

A method assigns importance ranks to nodes in a linked database, such as any database of documents containing citations, the world wide web or any other hypermedia database. The rank assigned to a document is calculated from the ranks of documents citing it. In addition, the rank of a document is calculated from a constant representing the probability that a browser through the database will randomly jump to the document. The method is particularly useful in enhancing the performance of search engine results for hypermedia databases, such as the world wide web, whose documents have a large variation in quality.
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spada

14 years ago

i have a question about outgoing links to other sites, is it harmful?
and another question about PR, is it count per page? i mean if the first result on google for specific keyword a page have PR3 or PR4
(for specific url not the domain ex: domain.com/store/1.php) and don't have any backlink to this specific page put have a ton of backlinks to the domain, is it hard to dominate this keyword?

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firewife

14 years ago

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my question has not been answered
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LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago

Originally Posted by firewife

disappointed
my question has not been answered
down!!!!!!

I already answered the question earlier and told you to scroll up and read it.. Do you really need me to repost it for you?

Also, I'm not quite sure what "down!!!!!!" means.
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Ehsan_am

14 years ago

When you want to check a keyword's competition. Do you use "" or you just do a normal search. I'm asking this because i have been struggling with this for a long time. I have several long tail keywords that show over 33 000 000 or more pages when I search for the long tail keyword without quotes. Wen I search for them with quotes there are like 2000 pages and I generally rank first page for these when I check my rankings. How do you interpret these rankings considering that people never search with quotes.

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spada

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ehsan_am

When you want to check a keyword's competition. Do you use "" or you just do a normal search. I'm asking this because i have been struggling with this for a long time. I have several long tail keywords that show over 33 000 000 or more pages when I search for the long tail keyword without quotes. Wen I search for them with quotes there are like 2000 pages and I generally rank first page for these when I check my rankings. How do you interpret these rankings considering that people never search with quotes.

I have the same question

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ehsan_am

When you want to check a keyword's competition. Do you use "" or you just do a normal search. I'm asking this because i have been struggling with this for a long time. I have several long tail keywords that show over 33 000 000 or more pages when I search for the long tail keyword without quotes. Wen I search for them with quotes there are like 2000 pages and I generally rank first page for these when I check my rankings. How do you interpret these rankings considering that people never search with quotes.

I don't use the quotes personally. I don't think it really helps anything because in the end you're really competing with the top 10 results anyway. A better measure of competition is to look at the domain age and their backlinks using MajesticSEO and Y! Site explorer.

And to answer your second question, yes, more links are likely needed. This basically verifies that Google realizes your site is related to these words.

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Ehsan_am

14 years ago

I actually know what the difference between "" searches and broad searches are. I'm more interested in the interpretation. When you rank well for the quoted keyword search, is that an indication that your are on your way to rank pretty well for the broad search since this should mean that you have optimized your page correctly and you just need more backlinks and link juice??

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ThalesMM

14 years ago

Build backlinks only for the main page (address.com) of the website with only one anchor text (one keyword) is bad?

I've read that you should link back to some random pages of your website and also change the anchor text so it doesn't look spammy.

Does it make difference at all or can I use the same www address and same anchor text for each keyword I want to rank for?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by ThalesMM

Build backlinks only for the main page (address.com) of the website with only one anchor text (one keyword) is bad?

I've read that you should link back to some random pages of your website and also change the anchor text so it doesn't look spammy.

Does it make difference at all or can I use the same www address and same anchor text for each keyword I want to rank for?

Not necessarily bad, but not as effective as a natural link campaign. I'd build links to several pages on the site and vary the anchor text a lot. However, you'll want a higher concentration of your desired keyword anchor text than the others.

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ThalesMM

14 years ago

Thanks, I was just doubtful about it, but now you said it'd be better to build links to several pages as it looks more natural, I'm going to do it so.

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Dr.faizan

14 years ago

Hello. My name is Faizan. I am a medical student from India. I have a blog of 1 year old with page rank 2. I need seo for my blog but being a student I cannot afford to pay the seo expert so I am willing to work on profit sharing basis. Can you tell me if there is anyone who can do good seo for my blog and get into onto top page. I will pay them 25% of my profit.

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Ehsan_am

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dr.faizan

Hello. My name is Faizan. I am a medical student from India. I have a blog of 1 year old with page rank 2. I need seo for my blog but being a student I cannot afford to pay the seo expert so I am willing to work on profit sharing basis. Can you tell me if there is anyone who can do good seo for my blog and get into onto top page. I will pay them 25% of my profit.

If someone wants to do that work he/she just puts up a site him/herself and cash in 100% profits.

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Dr.faizan 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ehsan_am

If someone wants to do that work he/she just puts up a site him/herself and cash in 100% profits.

Hello.. You are right that they can put up a brand new blog and keep the full earnings but from where can they get the articles.. And myself being a medical student can get good informative health related articles.
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Andrea Brown

14 years ago

I'm not sure if anyone already posted this question, but here it is anyway:

What all should I be doing after I make a blog post? I have a brand new blog and right now I'm just bookmarking each post with OnlyWire.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrea Brown

I'm not sure if anyone already posted this question, but here it is anyway:

What all should I be doing after I make a blog post? I have a brand new blog and right now I'm just bookmarking each post with OnlyWire.

I wouldn't be bookmarking each post on the same account across several services.. that's just not natural really. Besides, my thoughts on social bookmarking benefits are that they are generally just temporary (except the big few), but are fantastic at getting a new site indexed quickly. If your readers want to bookmark this on their own, even better!

Make sure you've got a big ping list and if the posts are of above average quality, shoot an email to other blogs related to your niche to see if they'll run the story as well. I've done very well with that last part and most people seem to ignore it altogether.

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ex9to5guy

14 years ago

Two weeks ago I decided I want to use IM as my main source of income. Now I do not know where to start. So far I have listened to Yaro Starak podcasts, adam short and xfactor. do you suggest anything for a n00b to read to get more of an understanding of the basics.

Also im not sure what i really want to do yet. Adam Short says create e books, and others say its easier to work as an affiliate. Others have told me i should just work on one soild site and one site only. Then I have also heard its easiest to start in PPC. What would recommend for a n00b that can probably put in 2-3 hours a day

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Rocketguy 14 years ago

I am really interested in the Local search, but I can't pm you yet. Is there any possibility of an ebook coming out soon?
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  Rocketguy - There's a possibility of 2 things: an ebook, or a straight up service/membership site. Through this thread I've went from the new guy with no connections to having an inbox full of people wanting to JV on a product. Interesting to say the least!
  
  dragonlordcs - That's more or less called siloing. The verdict is still out on that one for me, it really depends on what domain name you secure in the beginning. I'd recommend you read this: SEO Siloing
  
  AllThingsArePossible - Here's what I do. Since I create about 5 sites a week (generally at least 3 of these are on the same topics, week after week), I'll buy a new hosting account every week. However, I do a good bit of interlinking and such.
  
  As far as static HTML over Wordpress, I've got an interesting take on this. I used to (up until a few months ago) be kind of a go-to-guy for wordpress seo from colleagues and friends. I've since switched to static html sites using xsitepro and recommended several others to do so as well. I really like the program and for the amount of sites I manage and the drastically decreased time spent getting a SEO friendly site up off the ground, it's a no brainer. For me its essentially about volume and time spent on building the foundation. A well SEO'd wordpress site can rank just as well as a well SEO'd static page, no difference.
  
  VladWorks - I dont' really understand the issue. If the site is doing well for your keywords in the engines it must be indexed. Do a site:domain.com query in Google to see if it's there. If it's not: Bookmark it on various social bookmarking sites or try to get a few blog posts posted on sites with great authority and trust.
  
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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by futuremills

Two weeks ago I decided I want to use IM as my main source of income. Now I do not know where to start. So far I have listened to Yaro Starak podcasts, adam short and xfactor. do you suggest anything for a n00b to read to get more of an understanding of the basics.

Also im not sure what i really want to do yet. Adam Short says create e books, and others say its easier to work as an affiliate. Others have told me i should just work on one soild site and one site only. Then I have also heard its easiest to start in PPC. What would recommend for a n00b that can probably put in 2-3 hours a day

There are tons of schools of thought on this topic. Here's my own 2 cents:

I often recommend that beginners just get started on a blogger blog for a few reasons: it's free, you can't really screw anything up, you can still profit (from adsense or affiliate or even PPC... doesn't matter) and finally, IM is about knowledge and testing. I feel you can learn and hone your skills for basically free until you figure out exactly what it is that you're doing.

However, if you've got a friend or someone that will coach you through the process, by all means: let them!

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dragonlordcs

14 years ago

I just posted this thread and wondered what you thought...

Can you get the same SEO results for a niche market from either of these site designs or is one better than the other?

Website A: nicheproduct.com
Website B: nicheproduct.com/subnichepage

Website B would of course be a directory type site with links to all the subniche pages. Website A would be a one niche market site.

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VladWorks

14 years ago

I have been working on a website and it does pretty well on the search engines for the keywords I have been optimizing for.

I run all sorts of analysis tools and I always get back that google has not indexed any pages.

Website runs on Wordpress with All in One SEO installed and configured.

I have a sitemap that has been successfully submitted to google with webmaster tools.

I have a manual sitemap with text link on the footer of the website that lists all the pages in a text based link format.

Running out of ideas on how to get the pages indexed.

Any ideas? Did I miss a step?

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inovica

14 years ago

Hi there!

I've only recently started on the SEO game but think things have been going ok. I've been following all of the advice in the book and been trying to cover every angle necessary. (in-bound linking, blogs, social media, articles, PR, on-site keyword optimisation etc)

The site that I have been working on has been jumping around in Google between the 3rd and 4th page for months now. It changes on almost a daily basis and no matter how consistent the SEO efforts the result seems to be no different.

Can you shed any light on why this may be?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by inovica

Hi there!

I've only recently started on the SEO game but think things have been going ok. I've been following all of the advice in the book and been trying to cover every angle necessary. (in-bound linking, blogs, social media, articles, PR, on-site keyword optimisation etc)

The site that I have been working on has been jumping around in Google between the 3rd and 4th page for months now. It changes on almost a daily basis and no matter how consistent the SEO efforts the result seems to be no different.

Can you shed any light on why this may be?

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Emma

I'd really have to see the results page to tell you, but are there a lot of "fast news" items being included from day to day in the index?

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chrisnyce

14 years ago

Hello SEO Guy,

I submitted my site to Google and Yahoo. So naturally when I punch in my URL it shows up. How do I know if it's been indexed yet in regards to page rank? Also, how long does it take?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by chrisnyce

Hello SEO Guy,

I submitted my site to Google and Yahoo. So naturally when I punch in my URL it shows up. How do I know if it's been indexed yet in regards to page rank? Also, how long does it take?

If you're talking about PageRank, then install the google toolbar and you'll see a number there between 1-10 in a few months.

If you're talking about just ranking for your terms, watch your analytics program and you'll know when you start getting traffic from the SEs.

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chrisnyce

14 years ago

Thank you SEO guy! Is it possible to rank for terms right away or does this happen after some time has passed? Just wondering if I need to do more work to bring my quality score up.

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Sue Calhoun 14 years ago

Hi and thanks for posting all these answers

I have a few sites that were PR 3, dropped to greybar, then back to 1. Also drop in SERPs for some of these, not all, but from say 17 to 298. Some sites, the reverse, i.e. still at PR3 but SERP rank still drops by several hundred. The SERPs greatly affect my traffic (o' course) the PR does not. Should I care about PR?

None have been deindexed, but what exactly does that mean? I still have all my pages indexed when i check site:URL.

These sites have about 300 inbound links each, and growing as I build.

I have heard all of these referred to but how are they related, and does one cause the other, and what could cause this (I know that's kind of open ended, but some basics would help) - visual inspection by Google? Too many similar anchor text (I vary it quite a bit tho').

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

chrisnyce - It really depends on the amount of established competition targeting the same keyword, but yes, it normally ALWAYS takes some time to start ranking.

bzzyb - PageRank doesn't really relate to ranking in Google. It's more of an overall health score and can be used to kind of "guess" your TrustRank. I talked about PageRank here: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post1042876 and I suggest you read that for a better understanding. Now as far as dropping for your keywords, several things might have happened.. without knowing the url it's nearly impossible to tell you what to do to come back. One catchall answer would be to build trust by getting backlinks from authority sites. This never seems to fail.

Pnigro - Read about SEO Siloing it's basically what you're talking about. Good categorization does seem to help the big G, but don't be doing domain/folder/folder/folder/keyword.html or anything, just do what makes sense. For a niche that is smaller I wouldn't do it at all. I'd say the biggest criteria for whether to do this or not would be: does it make sense from a usability standpoint?

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Pnigro

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Pnigro - Read about SEO Siloing it's basically what you're talking about. Good categorization does seem to help the big G, but don't be doing domain/folder/folder/folder/keyword.html or anything, just do what makes sense. For a niche that is smaller I wouldn't do it at all. I'd say the biggest criteria for whether to do this or not would be: does it make sense from a usability standpoint?

This is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Thanks brah.

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pixelcrafter 14 years ago

Dear SEO Guy,

i've been studying and practicing the SEO for quite sometimes and got ZERO result.
The gurus seem never reveal the real back end of the SEO strategy.
They always say that I have to do the rss submission, social bookmarking, etc but none of them is specific enough to get the real SEO result.

I believe you are not that kind of Guru as you have spent your valuable time to open this thread and teach us about SEO.

Here is my case :

Question = What are the steps to get top ranking in Google ?

Overview =
* my site are wordpress-based sites
* competiton (for most keywords) = below 200.000
* search (for most keywords) = around 20.000 per month

I have done =

* Submitting the RSS feed using rss submit software
* Social bookmarked the homepage using BMD to 125+ bookmarking sites
* Building back links using UAW
* Submitting articles to Ezine
* using SEO pack plugin for wordpress
* creating SQ lenses
* creating Hub pages
* submitting the homepage to web directory

Why I can't get top ranking in G?
What is wrong with my steps?

Kindly guide me.

Bset Wishes,
-Pixel-
PS:
I've just stop using UAW as it is not worth the price.
Now, I doubt the BMD as my site drop from 10th page to nowhere.
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  Dear Seo Guy
  
  Very simple question, im kinda new to this stuff, have wordpress site on sports cars, top 5 things i should do first to start the seo process ? thanks.
  
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  califmike2003 - I'd submit the rss feed to several rss directories, get some listings from blog directories and make sure to post useful, se-friendly content on a regular basis. When you DO post, try to syndicate the post through email to other like-minded bloggers in your niche in hopes they'll publish it as well with a link back.
  
  rimam1 - Regarding fresh content my thoughts are this: If it makes sense in your niche (news or something) that content is posted frequently then do so. If it doesn't (most ecommerce ventures) then don't. My suggestion for ecommerce sites to have a blog isn't for fresh content, it's to help them get links that aren't normally available to commercial pages. For link building with an ecommerce site I'll just do a lot of interviews, try to get links from manufacturers, join related industry associations, create resource sites, etc.
  
  3Darmory - They give you an undisclosed percentage of the revenue generated from the click. So if advertiser x is paying $1.00 per click, Google will then give you x% of that price. CPM is handled similarly.
  
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- LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago
  
  pixelcrafter - You've done a good job so far, but you really need to go after links from authority sites. The links you're getting right now.. basically anyone can get, Google knows that, thus they don't do very much. Here's a few tips for finding and getting better links:
  
  1. Create an industry resource. Depending on your niche, there's probably an opportunity to create a resource for buyers or sellers... something like an overall "industry news" site or association you can start. Shoot for customer advocacy if you can, as these seem to get a lot of natural links. If a company is reviewed well, they'll likely highlight that on their website gaining you a link from them to your resource site, strengthening it. Likewise, you'll see consumers recommending people check your site before purchasing... good, essentially free backlinks. After you've done this you essentially have created your own authority site, link to yourself and you'll see a good boost.
  
  2. Create a photo site. If your niche is product based you can create a website around images of that product (herbal supplements are good for this, cars...etc) and license them through CC where in order to use the images they have to attribute the source. You'll get a lot of "free", quality links generated this way. Some clever things to do would be to disable right click so people absolutely HAVE to copy/paste the code you've given them and keep the link intact. Doesn't work 100% of the time, but most of the time it will. People have been using this tactic with smiley websites for years.
  
  3. Crawl through the relevant categories in DMOZ and the Y! directory and email the content sites there. To take this a step further, find sites that have dead links pointing to non-existent websites and let them know and ask that they replace the dead link with yours. Xenu link sleuth is great for this, and free!
  
  4. Offer yourself for interviews. Great way to get some coverage, generate a few sales and/or traffic.
  
  These should get you started
  
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EMGhb

14 years ago

Is there monthly search volume for subcategories or derivatives of your chosen niche? If so, it might be beneficial to split your articles into a few different categories.

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Pnigro

14 years ago

Originally Posted by EMGhb

Is there monthly search volume for subcategories or derivatives of your chosen niche? If so, it might be beneficial to split your articles into a few different categories.

This is what I don't understand.

Why would it be beneficial to split my articles into different categories? Is this going to help them rank better?

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Excursion

14 years ago

hey There, Used to be a member here for a while, but couldnt remember my pass. And the email I used to sign up I no longer have access too..

But anyways.

I am starting a new MMA forum, What would be some good ways to get members and top of the SERP's for keywords like MMA forums and UFC forums?

Thanks in advance.

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rimam1

14 years ago

Thanks for this informative post...

1). Does Google reward sites with fresh and new content?

2). If so, how do you take advantage of this if you have an ecommerce site? I'm sure you could add a blog, but if you sell granite countertops online, how do you optimize your site so it gets ranked high? Are links the only thing that really counts?

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3Darmory

14 years ago

Hi Terry,

I have a question, could you please tell me how the adsense income generated? I mean how Google pays on the basis of per impression or per click?

Thanks in advance.

Bye

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irenef25 14 years ago

I have heard that Google doesn't give any importance to backlinks. Is it true? If backlinks don't have any importance then what's new algorithm of Google?
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NTN

Banned 14 years ago

Hi Terry,

Thanks for all your input, really helps us newbies. I have a question, it probably seems stupid to you. Let's assume I have 200 Keywords or Phrases. I understand Title Tags, Meta, etc... but how do I utilize those Keywords? Where do they go? Keyword stuffing on page, hidden in the Footer of the site in same color background, etc...

Thanks so much.

NTN

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Kappa 14 years ago

I need an answer to the above question as well, how do I get my site ranked? Right now, my site is indexed but is not ranked for my main key word, which is my title tag as well as in blog posts. Why not? What is the sure fire silver bullet "Google has to see the light" way to get your site indexed for a certain keyword phrase?
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dgarlock

14 years ago

Terry,
from all I've read so far, you're quickly becoming the go-to guy for SEO...

here's my question:

I've developed an "authority site" using Drupal, which is currently in the sandbox, but near to going on a live server. I have a ton of PLR content that needs to be re-written and my thought was to do a few articles a day.
I don't think it's wise to let the SE's see this nascent site until I can add more content and continue to build it out, so...
I'm thinking I should exclude them with my robots.txt for a short period of time with:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

thoughts?

best regards,

Dave

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dgarlock

Terry,
from all I've read so far, you're quickly becoming the go-to guy for SEO...

here's my question:

I've developed an "authority site" using Drupal, which is currently in the sandbox, but near to going on a live server. I have a ton of PLR content that needs to be re-written and my thought was to do a few articles a day.
I don't think it's wise to let the SE's see this nascent site until I can add more content and continue to build it out, so...
I'm thinking I should exclude them with my robots.txt for a short period of time with:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

thoughts?

best regards,

Dave

I'd say keep it in a staging environment until you're ready, or simply put the site up without content, then add as you go.

"What the standard "Disallow" directive cannot still do is to make Google drop the page out of the index. So you may end up seeing those blocked pages in Google SERPs - Google won't know what they actually contain, so it will make judgements based on both internal and external references to that pages."

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Sowemimo Oladele

14 years ago

Hello TerryG,

Thanks for what you have shared so far, and please always expatiate on your IM terms a litle bit, it seems to be vocabularies for some of us that are not IM expert yet

I have 3 questions for you.

1. What is the meaning of having keyword bold like url, keword density, title tag etc in onpage optimization and how can I make sure it is done on my site to have a better onpage optimization??

2. Is it a spam to have links from a no follow site that is niche/content is totally different from ones targetted niche e.g A digital system niche site having an external links from weight loss site ?? and If we notice a spamy link, how can we delete or remove it linking to our site ??

3. You said you have of late been using xsitepro, how do you see the learning curve and how easy it is to add monitization methods be it adsense,affiliate links, images etc. I would appreciate if you can share what type of monitization you have use on a xsitepro design site and its success.

Thanks in Advance

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NTN

Banned 14 years ago

Hi Terry,

I posted before but maybe you missed.

Thanks for all your input, really helps us newbies. I have a question, it probably seems stupid to you. Let's assume I have 200 Keywords or Phrases. I understand Title Tags, Meta, etc... but how do I utilize those Keywords? Where do they go? Keyword stuffing on page, hidden in the Footer of the site in same color background, etc...

Thanks so much.

NTN

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by NTN

Hi Terry,

I posted before but maybe you missed.

Thanks for all your input, really helps us newbies. I have a question, it probably seems stupid to you. Let's assume I have 200 Keywords or Phrases. I understand Title Tags, Meta, etc... but how do I utilize those Keywords? Where do they go? Keyword stuffing on page, hidden in the Footer of the site in same color background, etc...

Thanks so much.

NTN

Just use them naturally within your content. I'd put a keyword in your h1, title tags, meta data, etc, as necessary. Here's an example:

Poison Ivy Cures | Cure Poison Ivy

I'd never recommend keyword stuffing or any other "tricks" like that, G figured these out years ago and they simply don't work for long if at all.

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Sowemimo Oladele

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele

Hello TerryG,

Thanks for what you have shared so far, and please always expatiate on your IM terms a litle bit, it seems to be vocabularies for some of us that are not IM expert yet

I have 3 questions for you.

1. What is the meaning of having keyword bold like url, keword density, title tag etc in onpage optimization and how can I make sure it is done on my site to have a better onpage optimization??

2. Is it a spam to have links from a no follow site that is niche/content is totally different from ones targetted niche e.g A digital system niche site having an external links from weight loss site ?? and If we notice a spamy link, how can we delete or remove it linking to our site ??

3. You said you have of late been using xsitepro, how do you see the learning curve and how easy it is to add monitization methods be it adsense,affiliate links, images etc. I would appreciate if you can share what type of monitization you have use on a xsitepro design site and its success.

Thanks in Advance

Hello TerryG,

You haven't answered my question

Anyways, I have an addition:

4. What is the different between www.keyword.com and keyword.com with respect to SEO?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sowemimo Oladele

Hello TerryG,
Thanks for what you have shared so far, and please always expatiate on your IM terms a litle bit, it seems to be vocabularies for some of us that are not IM expert yet

I have 3 questions for you.

1. What is the meaning of having keyword bold like url, keword density, title tag etc in onpage optimization and how can I make sure it is done on my site to have a better onpage optimization??

2. Is it a spam to have links from a no follow site that is niche/content is totally different from ones targetted niche e.g A digital system niche site having an external links from weight loss site ?? and If we notice a spamy link, how can we delete or remove it linking to our site ??

3. You said you have of late been using xsitepro, how do you see the learning curve and how easy it is to add monitization methods be it adsense,affiliate links, images etc. I would appreciate if you can share what type of monitization you have use on a xsitepro design site and its success.

4. What is the different between www.keyword.com and keyword.com with respect to SEO?

1. Generally those are elements where you'll put the keyword the page is focused on. So if you're going after "blue widget store", you'll have that term appear in your title, h1, alt text, bold, in the beginning of the copy, at the end of the page, etc. This is going a bit far for most sites, but is often what people are talking about when they say on-page optimization. To me onpage optimization pertains to internal linking, ensuring the content is spiderable, content quality and usability.

2. Technically, yeah, it's probably spam. If you weren't trying to manipulate your search placement would your site naturally acquire links from that other site? I wouldn't delete them, just build more and better ones.

3. I love XSP. It's super easy to use, hardly any learning curve and adding monetization is copy/paste type stuff. I've used adsense extensively for this and done well.

4. None, as long as you stick to one and don't use both in your url paths or backlinks.

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HeSi

14 years ago

Hi Terry,

I have an old site with alot of backlinks pointing to it.

According to Majesticseo its about 18000, but according to Google wbmaster tool it is only about 5000.

I am now running the Majesticseo URL through a backlink checker and see that most of the pages do exist and seem to contain links to my site, I have not finished this yet but a guess is that 10-12000 pages would link to my site.

So it seems I have a large number of links out there which are not indexed by Google.

1) Is this really so or is Google hiding links in their webmaster tool?
2) What would be the best way to alert the search engines that these pages linking to me exist and should be spidered?
If I put up a directory on my main site it might look like a reciprocal link exchange so I guess that would be less effective.
3) Is there any tool which can take a list of URLs and somehow notify the search engines that these URLs should be spidered?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeSi

Hi Terry,

I have an old site with alot of backlinks pointing to it.

According to Majesticseo its about 18000, but according to Google wbmaster tool it is only about 5000.

I am now running the Majesticseo URL through a backlink checker and see that most of the pages do exist and seem to contain links to my site, I have not finished this yet but a guess is that 10-12000 pages would link to my site.

So it seems I have a large number of links out there which are not indexed by Google.

1) Is this really so or is Google hiding links in their webmaster tool?
2) What would be the best way to alert the search engines that these pages linking to me exist and should be spidered?
If I put up a directory on my main site it might look like a reciprocal link exchange so I guess that would be less effective.
3) Is there any tool which can take a list of URLs and somehow notify the search engines that these URLs should be spidered?

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1. Google doesn't give all of the data, for sure. Y! site explorer is more accurate, but MajesticSEO (which you're using) is my absolute favorite for this.

2. Try pinging them and building a few links towards each backlink... it's called a "link backrub" and I highly suggest using it.

3. Same as number 2, I'd just do it by hand with link building or pinging/bookmarking.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

How can I improve the website in my signature?

Is there software that can do SEO work for me?

What is the easiest way to build backlinks?

How important do you think Google Maps and Yahoo Local are to attracting customers in your immediate are? Compared to adwords and organic listings?

How can I bring huge traffic to a blog that is presenting adsense ads?

Do you know how to post links to yahoo answers?

For onpage stuff I'd recommend changing your meta desc tag, it's a bit spammy at this point. Also, try to use full url paths instead of just "bathroom.html" or something.

The easiest way to build backlinks would be to just produce very good, useful content that others will naturally link to.

I personally love and utilize google local/maps whenever/wherever possible. It definitely has its part in an overall marketing campaign, especially for local business.

SEO will get you the traffic to the adsense site and also participate in communities, digg, stumbleupon, etc.. Good linkbait will do wonders for SEO and traffic.

Yahoo answers seems to (as of late) only show links for the answers that were chosen as best answer. Although, this isn't always the case.

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MacFreddie

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

How important do you think Google Maps and Yahoo Local are to attracting customers in your immediate are? Compared to adwords and organic listings?

Don't want to interfere with Terry, he is the go to guy for SEO, I can personally attest to that.

But Google Maps is HUGE for local organic, especially when combined with LBC.

A must for any small business.

Mac

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aniebee

14 years ago

First - thank you so much for offering this great advice for free! I've read the entire thread and learned a lot!

1: For Mac in the link above, what is LBC?

2: For Terry or others "in the know"

I understand the power of linking web 2.0 sites to my money site. But, recently I read some material that emphasized the importance of creating your own blog farm and to build up the authority of these. Then to link these to your money sites.

The idea is not new, but it hit me for some reason. They said to have a multi class-C hosting account. Then to add 10 blogs per C-class. Make these blogs with generic topics and to NOT connect them in any way. They are to look like stand-alone sites or wordpress sites.

After building up the individual blogs, you can use the power of these sites to help boost your money sites. The goal is to eventually have 1000 of these blogs, all created over time. Obviously you want to create some links to your money sites, but to do the bulk of your link building - promoting to these blogs.

What's the consensus on this? Do you know where I can get more information about this?

Thank You!
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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by aniebee

First - thank you so much for offering this great advice for free! I've read the entire thread and learned a lot!

1: For Mac in the link above, what is LBC?

2: For Terry or others "in the know"

I understand the power of linking web 2.0 sites to my money site. But, recently I read some material that emphasized the importance of creating your own blog farm and to build up the authority of these. Then to link these to your money sites.

The idea is not new, but it hit me for some reason. They said to have a multi class-C hosting account. Then to add 10 blogs per C-class. Make these blogs with generic topics and to NOT connect them in any way. They are to look like stand-alone sites or wordpress sites.

After building up the individual blogs, you can use the power of these sites to help boost your money sites. The goal is to eventually have 1000 of these blogs, all created over time. Obviously you want to create some links to your money sites, but to do the bulk of your link building - promoting to these blogs.

What's the consensus on this? Do you know where I can get more information about this?

Thank You!
Ann

LBC is Local Business Center. Do a local search in google and you'll see the map popup with results next to it.

Link farms are still effective.. but I wouldn't recommend them on any long-term business website. The problem is they leave a very big footprint (increasing of course with amount of spokes in the farm). If you're clever it'll work for a while, no problem. Just be a bit "googlenoid" as another member here puts it. Use different whois info, no interlinking, do them over time and don't setup more than a few at a time pointing towards you.

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VladWorks

14 years ago

Lots of great info in this thread.....

Thanks for all the help so far Terry. You solved more than one of my issues so far.

Cheers.

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actionplanbiz

14 years ago

Is a SEO'ed youtube channel useful?
if so how can i fully benefit from it?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by actionplanbiz

Is a SEO'ed youtube channel useful?
if so how can i fully benefit from it?

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I'd focus on the individual videos as they tend to rank higher than the profiles do. However, a good link from a profile isn't hurting anything.

hey LookItsMeTerryG

i m new in this field...i need ur help pls guide me i want 2 start seo work but i want 2 know from a to z.also tell me shall i create blog for seo or u prefer website?

Both are fine, the biggest tip is just to get going and try things!

Can a shared account vs reseller account effect SERP?

I've read a couple accounts where people have stated it was easy to rank for the primary domain, but add on domains were a struggle (not only when ranking for clients but also their own sites), and that google sees the domains in this format:

www-primarydomain-com/www-addondomain-com -vs- just www-addondomain-com

And this brings me to question #2, dedicated ip. Does it matter if you put all your sites on a shared ip (that is exclusively yours) or is it better to have a dedicated IP for each domain (as far as SEO is concerned)?

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I personally prefer a dedicated IP for each site, especially since I tend to focus on ecommerce. Your question though brings into mind the whole "bad neighborhoods" theory... I'd really not worry about it yet though. If you find you're doing everything else perfectly and you can't seem to move then perhaps look into it.

I know that when you first start out with your website you should try to rank for the less popular keywords first. I have already been able to rank pretty well for these less popular keywords and I was wondering what was the best way to transition to ranking for the more popular ones? Because if I immediately change my title tags, H1 tags, etc. I will stop ranking for the less popular keywords that I already rank highly for and I will probably not yet be able to rank highly for the new more popular keywords leaving me with no keywords to rank for and no organic traffic. How should I reconcile this?

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I don't know why you'd change the pages to target a different term, just create new ones around that specific phrase or keyword. That should solve both problems.

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superassassin

14 years ago

Can a shared account vs reseller account effect SERP?

I've read a couple accounts where people have stated it was easy to rank for the primary domain, but add on domains were a struggle (not only when ranking for clients but also their own sites), and that google sees the domains in this format:

www-primarydomain-com/www-addondomain-com -vs- just www-addondomain-com

And this brings me to question #2, dedicated ip. Does it matter if you put all your sites on a shared ip (that is exclusively yours) or is it better to have a dedicated IP for each domain (as far as SEO is concerned)?

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P.S. changed the dots to dashes since I can't post links (even though it's not really a link anyways)

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marketingjitsu

14 years ago

I know that when you first start out with your website you should try to rank for the less popular keywords first. I have already been able to rank pretty well for these less popular keywords and I was wondering what was the best way to transition to ranking for the more popular ones? Because if I immediately change my title tags, H1 tags, etc. I will stop ranking for the less popular keywords that I already rank highly for and I will probably not yet be able to rank highly for the new more popular keywords leaving me with no keywords to rank for and no organic traffic. How should I reconcile this?

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stefan16

14 years ago

Hi Terry,
Currently I have this blog on blogger platform and I've been building links to it for the past 4 months, it is not doing too well in term of search engine ranking. These are my questions:
1. Is it more difficult to rank good using blogger platform? I'm planning to publish it on my own domain but that way I'll lose all the backlinks, alexa rank, and being indexed by google. Is it worth it to publish now?
2. Is it doable to change my focused keyword now? Or is it easier to just drop this one, focus on other main keywords and use my current articles to start another campaign?
3. If I am going to start a campaign, which one do you suggest? a regular website or a blog?
4. I've heard alot about using linkwheel; does this method really works?
5. I've tried Angela's backlink and have doubt about it. Do you think that create link in your signature at a high PR forum will really do the trick? The forum doesn't even has anything to do with my current niche.

Any suggestion will be really appreciated

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stefan16

14 years ago

Hi Terry,
I've posted before, but you probably missed it:

Originally Posted by stefan16

Hi Terry,
Currently I have this blog on blogger platform and I've been building links to it for the past 4 months, it is not doing too well in term of search engine ranking. These are my questions:
1. Is it more difficult to rank good using blogger platform? I'm planning to publish it on my own domain but that way I'll lose all the backlinks, alexa rank, and being indexed by google. Is it worth it to publish now?
2. Is it doable to change my focused keyword now? Or is it easier to just drop this one, focus on other main keywords and use my current articles to start another campaign?
3. If I am going to start a campaign, which one do you suggest? a regular website or a blog?
4. I've heard alot about using linkwheel; does this method really works?
5. -deleted- I've just read that you don't want to comment about A' and P' backlink.
Any suggestion will be really appreciated

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14 years ago

Hi,
Quick question, in your opinion what is the best keyword software?
Many thanks.

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14 years ago

Hi SEO guy,

Have two questions for you. Have outsourced some back linking recently with a company that offers blog commenting. However, looking at what's been done so far they have only commented on nofollow blogs! Are they any benefits of nofollow blog commenting or have I wasted my money? Was some discussion recently about whether Google is now ignoring nofollow.

Second question. Can you override a site's no follow settings with rel="follow" in the html in your backlink?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Andy1750

Hi SEO guy,

Have two questions for you. Have outsourced some back linking recently with a company that offers blog commenting. However, looking at what's been done so far they have only commented on nofollow blogs! Are they any benefits of nofollow blog commenting or have I wasted my money? Was some discussion recently about whether Google is now ignoring nofollow.

Second question. Can you override a site's no follow settings with rel="follow" in the html in your backlink?

Thanks,

Andy

Nofollow is fine. The trick is emulating a natural link profile. Sites will get nofollow links naturally. If you have 100% dofollow links, that's not natural. As for overriding, nope. I'd recommend (if you're not already doing this) to do more than blog comments though.

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Jay Rhome

14 years ago

First of all Terry, thanks for this thread, your time, and your precise answers. I picked up many good tips.

Here are my questions:

#1 Subdomains
ex:
kitchen.homestuff.com
toilets.homestuff.com
vomitroom.homestuff.com

You said above that if we consider them from the perspective of SEO, there'd be no difference between the above and taking different URLS for each one? If so, are there any benefits to doing subdomains compared to simply using keywords in the title tags, H1, etc.? I know it'd help for PPC but for pure SEO purposes?

#2 How quickly can we build links to our own new or fairly new domain in a non spammy (****, etc.) niche? In other words, is the "Google Sandbox" real?

#3 As a follow up to point #2, could you critique my plan:

Let's say I get 60 articles on 20 different keywords written for me - 3 versions per keyword. I use version 1 on my site; version 2 on EZA; version 3 on hubpages or squeedoo. Then I spin them to be put on 2.0 sites. Plus I bookmark them, RSS, the whole 9 yards.

Basically, with a totally brand new site, in about 2 weeks I'd have lots of content on the site, plus LOTS of outside content, links and linkwheels pointing to the different pages on my domain. Is that too much too fast, or since the links are spread throughout the pages of my site, it's a great plan?

BTW, do the link juice from the different pages help drive them all up the ranks? (I guess that's #3B

)

#4 How can we know if a Wordpress theme is "SEO friendly" or not? I'm not talking about permalinks, SEO plugins and whatnot, but about the theme itself. How can we measure this, if it's relevant at all. I see this come up often but I don't know how to gauge this.

Thanks a lot Terry!!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jay Rhome

First of all Terry, thanks for this thread, your time, and your precise answers. I picked up many good tips.

Here are my questions:

#1 Subdomains
ex:
kitchen.homestuff.com
toilets.homestuff.com
vomitroom.homestuff.com

You said above that if we consider them from the perspective of SEO, there'd be no difference between the above and taking different URLS for each one? If so, are there any benefits to doing subdomains compared to simply using keywords in the title tags, H1, etc.? I know it'd help for PPC but for pure SEO purposes?

#2 How quickly can we build links to our own new or fairly new domain in a non spammy (****, etc.) niche? In other words, is the "Google Sandbox" real?

#3 As a follow up to point #2, could you critique my plan:

Let's say I get 60 articles on 20 different keywords written for me - 3 versions per keyword. I use version 1 on my site; version 2 on EZA; version 3 on hubpages or squeedoo. Then I spin them to be put on 2.0 sites. Plus I bookmark them, RSS, the whole 9 yards.

Basically, with a totally brand new site, in about 2 weeks I'd have lots of content on the site, plus LOTS of outside content, links and linkwheels pointing to the different pages on my domain. Is that too much too fast, or since the links are spread throughout the pages of my site, it's a great plan?

BTW, do the link juice from the different pages help drive them all up the ranks? (I guess that's #3B

)

#4 How can we know if a Wordpress theme is "SEO friendly" or not? I'm not talking about permalinks, SEO plugins and whatnot, but about the theme itself. How can we measure this, if it's relevant at all. I see this come up often but I don't know how to gauge this.

Thanks a lot Terry!!

1. There's evidence that Google treats subdomains differently than pages, in that a domain can pass a penalty to a sub domain but generally not vice versa, unless interlinking is taking place. It seems this exception is in place to protect free site providers from incurring penalties based on user content. I'd recommend just using good category structure and placing everything on the main site. i.e.: domain.com/category/page.html

2. Don't go overboard. I know that's a relative answer, but the idea is to "ramp up" instead of "die off". Whatever you do, make sure that you can increase long term instead of slowing. Is the sandbox real? I don't know. Probably not. There are so many ideas about what the sandbox actually is.. If sandbox = age filter, then yes. I'm positive that exists.

3. Good plan, but you'll need more and better links in the long run.

4. Make sure the theme validates and remove as many dynamic queries from the code as possible. Hardcore urls using full paths, make sure text is displayed correctly (use a text browser such as lynx to view this).

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Jay Rhome

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

2. Whatever you do, make sure that you can increase long term instead of slowing.

I never though of that one. Though it seems a given that some sites go through surges "naturally" and then slow down

3. Good plan, but you'll need more and better links in the long run.

Such as? Links from 2.0 sites, EZA, bookmarks, RSS feeds are what I know to do. Going back to point #2, I see my strategy is a bit of a initial burst and then it slows down. Mmm.

As you keeping adding sites, you continue outsourcing the backlink building for your older sites all the time? I don't see doing that myself as my network of sites grows over time.

4. Make sure the theme validates and remove as many dynamic queries from the code as possible. Hardcore urls using full paths, make sure text is displayed correctly (use a text browser such as lynx to view this).

I don't really know how to check for that. I'll Google that one. Unless there's a SEO Theme Checker software out there:rolleyes:

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jay Rhome

I never though of that one. Though it seems a given that some sites go through surges "naturally" and then slow down

Such as? Links from 2.0 sites, EZA, bookmarks, RSS feeds are what I know to do. Going back to point #2, I see my strategy is a bit of a initial burst and then it slows down. Mmm.

As you keeping adding sites, you continue outsourcing the backlink building for your older sites all the time? I don't see doing that myself as my network of sites grows over time.

I don't really know how to check for that. I'll Google that one. Unless there's a SEO Theme Checker software out there:rolleyes:

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You should target authority resource sites with high relevance to your subject matter. The first and easiest way to find these would be to go to dmoz and browse to your niche and try to get a link from every site there. Emails work best, phone calls if you can find a number work fine too. Don't be afraid to offer a donation for their time

When "I" build a site, I'll do some backlinking myself, but I design the site to be a link magnet.. with tons of linkbait content, so yeah, my links only increase for the most part. More links doesn't equate to harder work, just smarter work. You'll find that you'll get links just because you rank well for something often times. A boon to any site, for sure.

To check the code just open up the editor panel in wordpress and scout through it. Alternatively there are a lot of people out there than can do a 1 time SEO setup for wordpress, PM me for who I'd recommend. (heck, it may even be myself, I've done this for warriors in the past).

Edit: Just a bottom line thought here: Effective SEO oftentimes isn't actually "seo" in the common sense. It's actually just marketing 101. If you were trying to launch and promote a business on the internet without search engines, you'd go to high traffic, authority type sites to get plugs and links anyway. I'd personally want a link from any site that has a "resources" page or any targeted directory that has traffic and can establish visual trust for the viewers... often times these end up being the "golden" seo links. I tend to view SEO as a byproduct of a quality marketing campaign instead of a standalone initiative.

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l23bc

14 years ago

good question on the seo theme links with so many blogs using the same themes does that mean more blogs get put to googles sandbox faster

just curious to know that answer

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  after create website or blog what is the next step???? pls guide me.thanx
  
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LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago

@ l23bc - No, you're not being penalized because of a common theme unless there are problems with the theme structure or coding.

@ josephalford - Build links, integrate yourself into the niche community.

@ divengrabber - I'm not sure I understand your question. Title and content are relative to each other.
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divengrabber

14 years ago

What type of keyword research i follow to promote site. Tille or Conetent which i place on my site. Which is the most important first.

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zankee 14 years ago

use google wonder wheel to start with your keyword research, or googles external keyword research tool. just google "keyword tool external"

once there what better person than google to tell you what your keywords are?
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bus4bus

14 years ago

I have a question. I am currently using Google Adwords and just started using it 3 days ago. So I am completely new to this.

I have made ads that are typically about home based businesses. I have used a number of different keywords and I use the keyword tool. When I make the ad and add keywords, Google says the keywords are a quality of 7/10 all the way to 10/10 and that is after the review. That's good.

But the very next day I go back to check the keywords and the second day it says, 1/10 and poor landing page. Is it a matter of changing the keywords every single day for each ad?

Thanks for your time.

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Simo

14 years ago

Hi Terry,

I have a question from a client of mine who is running both a website and a blog

Which of the following hosting scenarios (if any) would produce a better SE ranking:

(a) both sites are hosted with the same web company
(b) they are hosted at different web companies (i.e. they have different IP addresses)

Would appreciate your feedback.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

@ Simo - I'd host them on the same server. Unless you're using the blog for something else... I've always had my business blogs at domain.com/blog.

@ vuedoolor - Yeah, kinda. They aren't as strong as if you'd get 3 separate links from 3 separate ips... but they'll do.

@ tvanslooten - There isn't one. You've got to actually analyze the efforts of the sites ranking high for the term to figure out what's going on.

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Harmony

14 years ago

Hi,

How can I manually check if a blog allows pingbacks?
How do I manually search for blogs that do allow pingbacks?
How do I check if a blog or webpage uses "no follow"?

I curious how to do these without a software tool. I'm just not sure of the exact wording to put into a google search for the above.

Thank you.
Harmony

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Harmony

Hi,

How can I manually check if a blog allows pingbacks?
How do I manually search for blogs that do allow pingbacks?
How do I check if a blog or webpage uses "no follow"?

I curious how to do these without a software tool. I'm just not sure of the exact wording to put into a google search for the above.

Thank you.
Harmony

I don't know of a way to check, but a google search would be this: "trackback from your own site"

Google that and you'll get a list of sites that accept it. To take it a step further, try: "trackback from your own site" keyword like this: "trackback from your own site" tea - Google Search

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vuedoolor

14 years ago

Here's my question:

There are 3 articles on Ezinearticles.com linking to my mydomain.com/money-site.html

Article#1 links to mydomain.com/money-site.html with anchor text "make money"

Article#2 links to mydomain.com/money-site.html with anchor text "affiliate marketing"

Article#2 links to mydomain.com/money-site.html with anchor text "work from home"

Does Google see that as 3 different votes and give credits for all 3?

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Travis Van Slooten 14 years ago

Terry:

Great thread you've started here and thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge!

I'll make my question brief but then I'll provide some background why I'm asking...

What is the most reliable way to get a quick and dirty look at the real competition for any given keyword so we don't waste time targeting a keyword phrase that is impossible to rank for?

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Background:

Almost all the ebooks I've read regarding keyword research and SEO say to target keywords with low competition (duh). The recommended way to check the "real" competition is always the same in these books: do a search for the keyword in quotes.

They further go on to say that you should target for those keywords whose results show less than 100,000 (again, when searching using quotes). While some "SEO experts" have told me this method is silly to begin with, this practice is preached a lot and has actually worked very well for me so I'm not sure what to think.

At any rate, this method hasn't been working that great lately because it appears Google tweaked their algorithm recently in light of Google Caffeine rolling out. What I've noticed is that the results returned when searching in quotes has gone through the roof. For example, a keyword phrase searched in quotes before might have returned 9,000. Today, that same keyword phrase searched in quotes returns over 600,000.

Now this isn't ALWAYS the case, but I'm finding this a lot lately. Google has definitely tweaked some things because the results are not even close anymore. And this isn't a Google dance or data center updating thing either as these new higher numbers I'm seeing have been this way for weeks.

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AbdulAzim

14 years ago

Hi,

Thanks for opening this thread.
I would love to ask questions also.

1.Is link wheel can be considered as black hat seo method?If not, why?

2.Let say I have squidoo page, hubpages, blogspot blog that link to my main site,
I bookmark my squidoo pages,hubpages and blogspot blog.I also submit them to
top rss directories.And promote those three site with article marketing.
Can this be considered as link wheel?Or one of its kind? This method is not black hat right?

I read this article : Black Hat Vs White Hat Authority Web 2.0 Link Building | Internet Marketing Blog, List Building - ProIMer

Is that true that the second method is white hat?

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Joshua McCoy

14 years ago

Wow, quite an amazing thread you've stared here Terry!

Thanks for sharing.

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Joshua McCoy

14 years ago

After all the great advice, I still got a few questions for you.

If someone is using blog commenting as one of their backlink strategies, does the authority of the page itself matter, or just the domain?

I know you said pagerank is bad way of judging authority. But for example's sake, let's say the link is on a site with a pagerank 9, like bbc (you gave that example earlier). Do you think a link from a pagerank 6 page would hold more weight than a pagerank 2 page?

This is assuming all other factors equal. (Age, relevancy, amount of links on the page, ect.)

I had another question about xsitepro. I have the software and have messed around with it a little bit, but never actually launched a site with it. It seems to me that it breaks a site up into modules, and then you edit each module individually. In my experience, this seems to make for a clunky looking site that doesen't flow well together and/or look very visually appealing to the visitor.

So I guess the few questions I had about xsitepro are: Do you buy custom templates/graphics ect. to use as a css base for the whole site, and put the site together from there so when you add the text, pictures and other stuff to each individual page the site looks professional?

Also, would you be able to give me a brief overview of how you form a site with xsite pro?

( I know that last question could take several pages and was very vauge. I'm not so much looking for help adding modules ect., I've thoroughly went through the tutorials and other guides. I'm speaking more from a perspective of making the site look visually appealing, layout, ect., so all I need to do to add a new page to the site once I've set it up is add text, images, links, ect. and publish it. [Which I know how to do already])

Last question:

Would you recommend a particular hosting service for uploading the site through xsitepro? Or maybe another way of putting that is have you noticed any servers or types of servers that don't work well for publishing the site within xsitepro? An answer on either side of that coin would work for me.

Any help on the xsitepro stuff would be very much apprecited, as I haven't took the time to learn most html code yet.

Thanks again for all your great posts, I've had alot of my questions answered already in this thread.

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LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago

@ - Joshua McCoy - "If someone is using blog commenting as one of their backlink strategies, does the authority of the page itself matter, or just the domain?"

Just comment on whatever is relevant. I wouldn't worry about this, at all.

"Do you think a link from a pagerank 6 page would hold more weight than a pagerank 2 page? This is assuming all other factors equal. (Age, relevancy, amount of links on the page, ect.)"

If all factors were equal they'd have the same pagerank. The answer is of course, but only because that's the only metric you're giving me in order to make my decision.

"So I guess the few questions I had about xsitepro are: Do you buy custom templates/graphics ect. to use as a css base for the whole site, and put the site together from there so when you add the text, pictures and other stuff to each individual page the site looks professional?"

No custom templates, just use the ones there. With the type of sites that I create in XSP I'm not worried about how good they look. I use XSP for speed and ease of generating quick MFA sites. As far as hosting, I like cpanel hosts, doesn't really matter though. They should all work fine.
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robvegas626

14 years ago

Hi Terry. Incredible thread. Quick question: if you shorten a URL (using TinyUrl or a similar service), and then post that link somewhere, will Google still count it as a back link to your site? Does shortening a link rob it of any "link juice?"

My blog posts have extremely long, ugly URLs and posting the full link makes it look like spam. But I want to make sure I get credit for a back link when I post it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by robvegas626

Hi Terry. Incredible thread. Quick question: if you shorten a URL (using TinyUrl or a similar service), and then post that link somewhere, will Google still count it as a back link to your site? Does shortening a link rob it of any "link juice?"

My blog posts have extremely long, ugly URLs and posting the full link makes it look like spam. But I want to make sure I get credit for a back link when I post it.

I wouldn't try to "bandage" this issue. Honestly, I'd make the urls shorter to begin with. But, despite what some might say, I've never seen a shortened url show up in my backlinks.

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rliddle

14 years ago

This is a great thread, is there a methodolology to targeting Bing and Google simultaneously?

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Lorens

14 years ago

Hi Terry,
Thanks for helping warriors in your thread. I also would like to ask you a question.

How much traffic is getting #1 ranked website and other websites in google's top10. I have noticed that there is no difference between #1 and #2 ranked websites, however, some people say that #1 website gets about 40% of traffic. What can you say about it?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lorens

Hi Terry,
Thanks for helping warriors in your thread. I also would like to ask you a question.

How much traffic is getting #1 ranked website and other websites in google's top10. I have noticed that there is no difference between #1 and #2 ranked websites, however, some people say that #1 website gets about 40% of traffic. What can you say about it?

I'm not exactly sure. I find it varies between niches. I know a lot of guys quote the AOL data that can be found online... One of my clients sat at number 3 and when he moved to number 1, did 3 times as many sales for the same keyword. I know for one of my own ecommerce projects I currently sit at number 5 for a keyword, have been 8, 10, 12... and to be honest, no noticeable difference in sales or traffic..however, the sites that outrank me are much less usable and my site is better in terms of design and usability AND product offerings.

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rimam1 14 years ago

Lorens and Terry,

Google released some stats saying that the first result gets about 42% of the clicks and it goes down from there. Market Samurai takes these stats into consideration when calculating their SEOT (SEO traffic) estimates. Contact the Market Samurai folks to get these stats. They can probably direct you to the Google report that breaks down the amount of clicks each position gets.
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mistyone 14 years ago

Thank you for being willing to help us all with your knowledge, it is very much appreciated.

My questions are:

(1) I have WP site that I never did anything with until this year, then I started building links to it and it was starting to do very well.

Jan 516 uniques
Feb 358 " "
Mar 835 " "
April 1,051 "
May 2,110 "
June 2,494 "
July 4,301 "
Aug 3,217 "
Sep now while this month isn't complete I can tell by the daily visits that it is on the downwards spiral.

A couple of other sites seem to be heading in the same direction.
I don't believe this is the Google dance but you may tell me otherwise. I have done some link building with Angela's link packages, some social bookmarking, pinging, RSS submission and some article directory submissions. I don't want this site losing so much traffic as it is selling an affiliate product. What would you suggest?

(2) When I search to see where my sites rank in Google I can't use Google.com to search, it keeps reverting to my local Google site, how do I overcome this or doesn't it matter. Do I see the same result in Google.co.nz as someone else would in Google.com?

(3) When I look at the results of 'backlinkwatch', for the above site, it shows predominantly links from one of my other sites, as I have a link to it on my landing page. Will this be harming my site? (They are both weight related and both PR3)

(4) When I look at my sites in webmaster tools I see lots of URL's being shown as 'not found'. How do I get rid of these results, could these not found URL's be harming my site. (I have an automatic posting plugin, sometimes I cull the posts out because they aren't on topic enough, which is what I think these URL's are)

Look forward to your response

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  @ - mistyone
  1 - Is this a seasonal product? Also, the links you've been getting are temporal and most will be removed at some point, thus creating a decay anomaly and hurting your rankings.
  
  2 - Use something like Google Data Center Multiple IP Address SEO Research Tool
  
  3 - Interlinking isn't bad, but you're not getting full benefit of those links. If the sitewide links make up a large percentage of your link profile, bad news.
  
  4 - 301 redirect those to the appropriate pages.
  
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14 years ago

Hi

I've been trying to crack this whole SEO/Google/PR/Backlink riddle and whilst I've made progress, I think it's now time to bow to greater knowledge.

In your opinion/experience who offers a good SEO service I can pay to try and boost my Google rankings?

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actionplanbiz 14 years ago

What Kind of Index i should have for my domain name?

I promote Mutliple Referral Programs.

Should iit be a blog?
should it be a squeeze page?
should it be a review page?
should it be a testimonial?

whats best for SEO and Humans?
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  Should iit be a blog?
  should it be a squeeze page?
  should it be a review page?
  should it be a testimonial?
  
  something with lots of content. Optimize for sales first and foremost.
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by mj39weeks

Hi

I've been trying to crack this whole SEO/Google/PR/Backlink riddle and whilst I've made progress, I think it's now time to bow to greater knowledge.

In your opinion/experience who offers a good SEO service I can pay to try and boost my Google rankings?

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Gee S

14 years ago

Hey Terry,

How do you personally get links to your website?

Also which link building services if any do you use? Do you use any automated tools?

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LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago

Originally Posted by MrEyeconic

Hey Terry,

How do you personally get links to your website?

Also which link building services if any do you use? Do you use any automated tools?

Gurpreet

I've laid a lot of that out in this thread already, but:

1. I create sites to be link magnets, therefore I don't "get" links, links come to me.

This is a bit more information than I wanted to give in this thread, but for example: I own a tea ecommerce site, we hired a well known tea video blogger to do on-page video product reviews and overviews. He links to us, as do his fans, etc. For my instrument string ecommerce projects, I have authoritative histories of instruments, interviews with players, I offer discounts to teachers with a coupon code (their name) and have them link to our site.

2. I email/call high authority sites.

3. I produce quality linkbait.

4. When I've exhausted the list of industry resources and such to get links from, I create my own resources and link back. This helps me get those links from competitors and so forth that aren't available to a commercial site.

I don't use any services, other than my own, but everyone once in a while I'll play with SENUKE for fun.
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thegamecat

14 years ago

Hi there, thought I'd help out with something regarding building your own network of sites and gaining backlinks between them - in reference to:

I personally prefer a dedicated IP for each site, especially since I tend to focus on ecommerce. Your question though brings into mind the whole "bad neighborhoods" theory... I'd really not worry about it yet though. If you find you're doing everything else perfectly and you can't seem to move then perhaps look into it.

Every domain needs a seperate IP.
Every IP must be on a different class C IP range - you can usually achieve this by putting each domain on a different host.
It is even believed that you should either reg the domain with different contact details or use a WhoIs Guard (you can get this free for a year if you buy your domain with namecheap.com).

Building link networks is harder than it initially looks but once you have the strategy in place the deployment can be smooth and re-usable so win win.

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simba999

14 years ago

Terry,

We really appreciate the time and effort you are taking to give us all this great information! Thanks so much...

Sheila

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babuni

14 years ago

I am a beginner in this SEO subject so if my questions are foolish just excuse me.

1) Does on page optimization of basic static site and a CMS/e-commerce site will be similar? How to optimize on page a flash site... does it also similar to a static site?

2) How to use a low competitive keyword in a site whose content is created following LSI.....I mean to say how to use keywords in a LSI followed content so that a search engine find it as a keyword among synonymous/related?LSI keywords?

It will be a great help to a beginners to me if you spare some time and answer these questions.

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by babuni

I am a beginner in this SEO subject so if my questions are foolish just excuse me.

1) Does on page optimization of basic static site and a CMS/e-commerce site will be similar? How to optimize on page a flash site... does it also similar to a static site?

2) How to use a low competitive keyword in a site whose content is created following LSI.....I mean to say how to use keywords in a LSI followed content so that a search engine find it as a keyword among synonymous/related?LSI keywords?

It will be a great help to a beginners to me if you spare some time and answer these questions.

1. To optimize for flash: convert to html

. They say they can read it, but I wouldn't want to take any chances. Yeah, optimizing a CMS and a basic site are the same, you'll want to highlight the same elements etc. One just normally takes longer than the other.

2. I'm not sure EXACTLY what you mean by this, but as long as you use keywords and related keywords, you'll be fine. Well, as long as the spiders see them anyway.

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islander1

14 years ago

Hey SEO Guy,

I have a site that I started in April and it was ranking Google page 1 for several keywords till last week, when they were all gone. The search sitename.com still comes up with my site, so it is still indexed, but I'd like to find out what happened and how to fix it.

I don't use any 'black hat' techniques that I know of, only articles, social bookmarking, and Angela's backlinks. If I PM you the site name, could you take a look at it for me?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by islander1

Hey SEO Guy,

I have a site that I started in April and it was ranking Google page 1 for several keywords till last week, when they were all gone. The search sitename.com still comes up with my site, so it is still indexed, but I'd like to find out what happened and how to fix it.

I don't use any 'black hat' techniques that I know of, only articles, social bookmarking, and Angela's backlinks. If I PM you the site name, could you take a look at it for me?

Sure, PM me, I'd be glad to check it out for you.

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islander1 14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Sure, PM me, I'd be glad to check it out for you.

Sent you a PM, thanks for looking at this!
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14 years ago

Thanks rimam1. Really appreciate being appreciated, ya know?

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jacksonlin

14 years ago

Terry

1. Is the duplicate content issue a myth? I have heard that duplicate content does not affect you unless you have the same content on the same domain. Otherwise if it's on a different IP address it's known as Syndication. However, I have done a Google search of a few of my article paragraphs in "quotes" and I have found that sometimes the articles that come up on the first result that Google considers to be first importance is not my site! I know my articles are 100% unique, but then I use AMA and UAW and spin 3 versions of the same article and get it syndicated.

I have been able to achieve first place rankings for many keywords on this on Google, however I'm worried that some day this might be detrimental to me?

2. How long does the Google dance last for? I have a site that's 9 months old and there are a select few pages that I have been doing more aggressive backlinking. These pages got on the first place of Google and were there for a few months, but suddenly these few days they have disppeared - they aren't even in the top 1000 and they are just "not found" according to Market Samurai.

I have been constantly building backlinks slowly and steadily however, I have occassionally used Angela's and Pauls backlinks as a link boost a few times in the past 2 months. I have never had an issue with it, but now some of the pages are not even ranking. This is strange because I have had 7 pages that have received this kind of backlinks and half of them have no problem and are ranking well, whereas the other half are gone.

Could it be a Google dance?

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LookItsMeTerryG

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jacksonlin

Terry

1. Is the duplicate content issue a myth? I have heard that duplicate content does not affect you unless you have the same content on the same domain. Otherwise if it's on a different IP address it's known as Syndication. However, I have done a Google search of a few of my article paragraphs in "quotes" and I have found that sometimes the articles that come up on the first result that Google considers to be first importance is not my site! I know my articles are 100% unique, but then I use AMA and UAW and spin 3 versions of the same article and get it syndicated.

I have been able to achieve first place rankings for many keywords on this on Google, however I'm worried that some day this might be detrimental to me?

2. How long does the Google dance last for? I have a site that's 9 months old and there are a select few pages that I have been doing more aggressive backlinking. These pages got on the first place of Google and were there for a few months, but suddenly these few days they have disppeared - they aren't even in the top 1000 and they are just "not found" according to Market Samurai.

I have been constantly building backlinks slowly and steadily however, I have occassionally used Angela's and Pauls backlinks as a link boost a few times in the past 2 months. I have never had an issue with it, but now some of the pages are not even ranking. This is strange because I have had 7 pages that have received this kind of backlinks and half of them have no problem and are ranking well, whereas the other half are gone.

Could it be a Google dance?

Thanks Terry!

Duplicate content is definitely not a myth. There's waaay more to this subject than I can even spell out here in a 500 page thread. If you really want a good understanding (and geek out a bit) read the patent here: United States Patent: 7158961

"A similarity engine generates compact representations of objects called sketches. Sketches of different objects can be compared to determine the similarity between the two objects. The sketch for an object may be generated by creating a vector corresponding to the object, where each coordinate of the vector is associated with a corresponding weight. The weight associated with each coordinate in the vector is multiplied by a predetermined hashing vector to generate a product vector, and the product vectors are summed. The similarity engine may then generate a compact representation of the object based on the summed product vector."

Even spun articles can be considered duplicate content... If you were doing this though, at LEAST spin to 50%, ignore the 30% generally recommended. Someone once told me that any 2 articles in the english language can be a maximum of 70-80% unique, regardless of the particular topic they're used on (due to speech patterns, sentence structure, etc).

For the 2nd question, look at your backlinks over time using MajesticSEO or similar. Do you have any decay anomalies? The angelas and pauls type backlinks often are temporal links with inflated decay profiles. As are bookmarks, directory listings and bought blog posts, comments, etc. All poor quality links, IMHO. They work yes, but temporarily at best (most of the time).

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carlo_sim 14 years ago

So what is the best way to create backlinks and where can we get quality links?
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- LookItsMeTerryG 14 years ago
  
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  So what is the best way to create backlinks and where can we get quality links?
  
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  smam 14 years ago
  
  First off, great thread and thanks for sharing, its been really helpful.
  
  What things/topics do you need to learn in order to become a seo professional and be able to offer a service to others. What services does a competent seo professional offer?
  
  I can glean some from reading posts and searching the net, but would like a definative outline so i could focus my efforts.
  
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jacksonlin

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LookItsMeTerryG

Duplicate content is definitely not a myth. There's waaay more to this subject than I can even spell out here in a 500 page thread. If you really want a good understanding (and geek out a bit) read the patent here: United States Patent: 7158961

"A similarity engine generates compact representations of objects called sketches. Sketches of different objects can be compared to determine the similarity between the two objects. The sketch for an object may be generated by creating a vector corresponding to the object, where each coordinate of the vector is associated with a corresponding weight. The weight associated with each coordinate in the vector is multiplied by a predetermined hashing vector to generate a product vector, and the product vectors are summed. The similarity engine may then generate a compact representation of the object based on the summed product vector."

Even spun articles can be considered duplicate content... If you were doing this though, at LEAST spin to 50%, ignore the 30% generally recommended. Someone once told me that any 2 articles in the english language can be a maximum of 70-80% unique, regardless of the particular topic they're used on (due to speech patterns, sentence structure, etc).

For the 2nd question, look at your backlinks over time using MajesticSEO or similar. Do you have any decay anomalies? The angelas and pauls type backlinks often are temporal links with inflated decay profiles. As are bookmarks, directory listings and bought blog posts, comments, etc. All poor quality links, IMHO. They work yes, but temporarily at best (most of the time).

Just giving you an update:

1. My articles are spun 3 times for each sentence, and I have done article comparison tests for uniqueness and the least amount of uniqueness I get is 60%. So I think should be fine in regards to the duplicate content issue?

2. My sites are back again in the rankings! I think it was a bit of a Google dance of sort, the ones in question have their SERPS back!

Hmmm...Interesting isn't it?

J