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Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 24th December 2011, 04:09 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 7,585
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Got a death threat today from an irate customer

Call the police. Ask them to send an officer to your home. The email is evidence. Preserve it. You have described a death threat and a person who has directed an "extreme level of vitriol" at you.
...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th October 2011, 01:05 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 12,860
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: 5+ Year 2Checkout.com Account CLOSED!!

Hello HeySal,

I respectfully disagree; it is a war against fraud -- the sort of fraud that is unprecedented in the whole of human history. And it is not a power grab aimed at entrepreneurs.
...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 8th October 2011, 11:09 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 2,993
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: How to remove scammers from the WSO thread (at least some of them)

"Badge" and similar systems actually can be a key marker of a scam. It is a fairly common form of fraud that is used to conceal fraud while at once creating a new way to monetize fraud.

Here is an...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 4th October 2011, 02:08 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 700
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Do You Get Emails From Domain Sellers?

There is a variant of this scheme in which scammers pose as a representative of a government and claim that someone is trying to register a domain name that closely resembles one you own.

At its...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 30th September 2011, 10:29 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 629
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Text-Messaging Spammer Selling 'Morgage Modifications' Hit With Judgment, Injunction

One of the things I found interesting about this case is the remarkably compressed time frame from the complaint being filed (February 2011) to the settlement (approved by a federal judge in August...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 30th September 2011, 08:44 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 629
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Text-Messaging Spammer Selling 'Morgage Modifications' Hit With Judgment, Injunction

A California man who sent 5 million text spams, caused cell-phone bills to rise, planted the seed he was affiliated with the government and hawked purported mortgage-modifications and debt-relief...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 29th September 2011, 09:40 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

UPDATE: The Alderney Gambling Control Commission, the e-gaming regulator of the British Channel Islands, has revoked Full Tilt's license.

In a ruling issued today, AGCC said FTP had "fundamentally...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 28th September 2011, 10:30 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 3,447
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: IMer Pleads Guilty To Criminal Copyright Infringement

When you suggest that it's OK to steal from wealthy or well-known job-creators and owners of property, do you write the PR talking points yourself or farm them out?

Is it OK to steal from...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 28th September 2011, 10:20 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 3,447
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: IMer Pleads Guilty To Criminal Copyright Infringement

This (and the unquoted balance of your post) is reality-inverting, fantastic idiocy on full display for the world to see. It is the precise kind of reality-inverting, fantastic idiocy that undermines...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 25th September 2011, 05:35 PM
Replies: 95
Views: 2,418
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Why Are There So Few Info Products On Stopping Foreclosure?

Actually, I think they could be persuaded to spend a lot more than $47 and that the acquisition of the product at any price likely only will compound their problems -- even if one allows for the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 25th September 2011, 01:55 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 3,447
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: IMer Pleads Guilty To Criminal Copyright Infringement

I think you described his method well, but severely downplayed the damage it caused while going heavy on the language syrup to downplay the criminality. This was nothing short of "in-your-face"...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 25th September 2011, 10:21 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 3,447
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: IMer Pleads Guilty To Criminal Copyright Infringement

Saw an instance this morning in which a serial spammer was using a free Blogspot (Blogger) Blog to promote a purported "free" videocast of today's NFL games. I mean, it was just brazen:

1.) Serial...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 24th September 2011, 10:03 PM
Replies: 95
Views: 2,418
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Why Are There So Few Info Products On Stopping Foreclosure?

Any IMer who enters this niche would be well-advised to have a highly competent attorney on retainer and be prepared to pay for plenty of vetting before any product is released. Possible areas of...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 24th September 2011, 05:12 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 3,447
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: IMer Pleads Guilty To Criminal Copyright Infringement

Economic security is homeland security. There will neither be economic security nor homeland security if creators and entrepreneurs are denied the fruits of their craft by organized pirates and vast...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 24th September 2011, 03:58 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 3,447
Posted By Patrick Pretty
IMer Pleads Guilty To Criminal Copyright Infringement

Will the keepers of the illegal IM product vaults be next? One can only hope.

A North Carolina IMer who had an illegal download site, monetized it with advertising and accepted donations that...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 21st September 2011, 07:22 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

The Feds need money, so they will "slap [a] ponzi scheme on anyone?" That's a puzzling thought, given that prosecutors have to make a showing to a court before a Ponzi defendant is charged civilly or...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 21st September 2011, 12:20 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

For the sake of discussion on marketing, not politics, let's say your assertion is true.

What then? Should IMers be permitted to run Ponzi schemes? If a Ponzi scheming IM competitor hiding behind...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th September 2011, 08:35 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

Snippet from a statement on the alleged Full Tilt Poker Ponzi scheme by the Poker Players Alliance:

"If true, these allegations detail a massive betrayal of player trust which will cause financial...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th September 2011, 07:45 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

In some online schemes, not even a large sports stadium could accommodate all of the victims. It is a sad reality of the Internet, one that demonstrates virality is not always a good thing. I am...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th September 2011, 06:47 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

Actually, it's a line from the prosecution, Kay. But that's more or less what they meant.

Patrick
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th September 2011, 05:45 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

The complaint is massive -- 103 pages. Page after page of info on bank accounts involved in the alleged web of deception to keep the money wheels greased.

Some non-Ponzi highlights from the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th September 2011, 01:06 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,194
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Feds Say Full Tilt Poker Was Giant Ponzi Scheme

Lots of discussions about payment processors, banks and risk associated with online businesses lately.

In New York today, U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara and federal prosecutors alleged that Full Tilt...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 19th September 2011, 10:22 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 2,255
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Did I Just Get Scammed $2,300 Through PayPal?

Not sure I was counting on anything, Bill. And I'm not sure what you mean here. :-)

Patrick
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 19th September 2011, 09:41 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 2,255
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Did I Just Get Scammed $2,300 Through PayPal?

Forgive me, but this reads like a backdoor sales pitch aimed at Warriors. You're talking about an "untapped" niche, "success" coming from "how viral it went" -- and all of that is juxtaposed against...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 19th September 2011, 05:56 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 2,255
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Did I Just Get Scammed $2,300 Through PayPal?

You're going to continue to use PayPal to accept orders when you know you have no T-shirt provider, there are current disputes, you don't have the cash to refund customers -- and your partner remains...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 18th September 2011, 01:47 AM
Replies: 100
Views: 4,023
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Just got this email: [INVOICE #095] PAYMENT OWED: $1,997!

Which is why what you (and others) experienced is deeply lamentable. As I mentioned previously, I'm glad you started this thread. And I was gratified to learn as the thread developed that you voted...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 17th September 2011, 02:51 PM
Replies: 75
Views: 3,531
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Just Nailed A ****Weasel Selling My Stuff On Fiverr

Prosecutors could paint this as a virtual acknowledgement that you're willing to commit the state-level crime of receiving stolen property and converting it to your own use, also known in the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 17th September 2011, 10:40 AM
Replies: 100
Views: 4,023
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Just got this email: [INVOICE #095] PAYMENT OWED: $1,997!

This is a slightly dumbed-down form of something along these lines: "URGENT: YOUR DAUGHTER HAS BEEN INJURED." A few years ago, such toxic and incendiary emails were making the rounds.



It's...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th September 2011, 10:40 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,157
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Internet Marketing Degree

I'd never heard of this school prior to the opening of this thread. Visiting the site was worthwhile. Full Sail also has a Wikipedia entry, although the editors say the article is written like an...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 14th September 2011, 04:50 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 2,779
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Threatening to take legal action?

Splorf! That's Internet Marketing the Phil Piccolo way. He pushes a product that purportedly prevents leg amputations and helps tomatoes grow to twice their normal size and dairy cows produce more...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th September 2011, 04:54 PM
Replies: 189
Views: 6,698
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are WSO "Dream Merchants" Really Scamming People?

Heck, John, parts of Florida are draining out into the Caribbean. There is a big combine of IM criminals/hucksters in Florida. Some of the money has been linked to narcotics traffickers. Vast sums...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th September 2011, 03:22 PM
Replies: 189
Views: 6,698
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are WSO "Dream Merchants" Really Scamming People?

This is a gross oversimplification that ignores several realities.

For starters, borrowers often not only did not understand the terms of the note, chicanery on the parts of brokers, appraisers...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th September 2011, 12:56 AM
Replies: 189
Views: 6,698
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are WSO "Dream Merchants" Really Scamming People?

Hello Thomas,

You've made it clear that you're generalizing, so let me add my own generalization:

It is easy to forget that the Internet is still "new." It seems clear to me that some of its...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th September 2011, 04:40 PM
Replies: 189
Views: 6,698
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are WSO "Dream Merchants" Really Scamming People?

Yes, John. Let's extend the hypothetical above. I'll add a real-life kernel from a 2010 case for background.

In Philly, an IMer was accused of obstructing justice even as the FBI was carrying out...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th September 2011, 11:19 AM
Replies: 189
Views: 6,698
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are WSO "Dream Merchants" Really Scamming People?

The WF and other marketing sites have nightmare stories aplenty. So does eBay. So do the court dockets in venue after venue. Lots of IM-related litigation these days, some of it worrisome for the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th September 2011, 08:50 AM
Replies: 0
Views: 909
Posted By Patrick Pretty
IMer Charged With Wire Fraud In Alleged $5M Bogus-Billing Scheme

Daniel Greenberg sold inexpensive clothing and household goods online. He and his his company, Classic Closeouts LLC, already had been the subjects of an FTC action, an asset freeze, a receivership,...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 5th September 2011, 10:58 AM
Replies: 93
Views: 3,140
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Never buy a product WITHOUT an upsell...

Toby,

I think JohnMcCabe, CDarklock and others have exposed flaws in this curiously sweeping piece of IM advice and reasoning, but if you remain committed to this line of thought moving forward, I...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 4th September 2011, 11:38 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,992
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are you scamming people? Are you being scammed?

At least you didn't advocate for a critic's death by shotgun blast this time, Robert.

Even so, the imagery of a "sharp stick" poked by an IMer in the eyes of the presumptive IM "haters" in the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 28th August 2011, 11:02 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 2,402
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Is it Illegal to Do this?

I give a tinker's damn, Ken, and I've explained why. I think plenty of people give a tinker's damn about the nation's monetary symbols and do not want to see them become mini-billboards for IM...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 28th August 2011, 06:24 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 2,402
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Is it Illegal to Do this?

Ken,

Unless I'm reading you wrong, you appear willing to lend at least your tacit support to schemes in which IMers would affix a sticky of their sales URL to U.S. currency and that the linchpin...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 27th August 2011, 08:21 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 2,402
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Is it Illegal to Do this?

Hello George,

I stand by my opinion and respect your privilege to express yours.

The President has any number of solemn duties. None is more important than keeping the people safe. It's also a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 27th August 2011, 06:55 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 2,402
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Is it Illegal to Do this?

I agree that people have been defacing money for years. I disagree if you're asserting that my post above speaks to outcomes that are improbable.

I think it is probable that, if IMers use U.S....
Forum: Off Topic Forum 27th August 2011, 02:29 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 4,328
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Computer Keeps Running Out of Space

If it's a Media Center PC, check to make sure it is not recording TV shows, etc. The drive on my Media Center PC once was almost entirely taken up by TV shows I didn't know I was recording. I must...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 27th August 2011, 01:40 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 2,402
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Is it Illegal to Do this?

U.S. currency = U.S. Secret Service. U.S. Secret Service = President of the United States and U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

IMHO, any scheme to put stickers of URLs on U.S. currency or to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 25th August 2011, 11:57 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,308
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Amazon Termination Follow-Up; They ARE CHECKING:(

Senate bill reintroduced (this month). It has some bipartisan support -- and the USDOJ and attorney general want it to pass. "The Incorporation Transparency and Law Enforcement Assistance Act."
...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 22nd August 2011, 10:03 PM
Replies: 74
Views: 2,388
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Is The Warrior Forum Too Cheap?

Mac,

Just thinking out loud for the purposes of satire here . . .

Maybe all the WSO sellers should agree to let their hair grow. The next step would be to agree to learn how to curse like...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th August 2011, 01:22 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 594
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Did you think this was a scam too?

Some of the early purported brainiacs of IM advanced a theory by which suggesting something was a scam -- and then arguing on a Blog or website that it was not -- was a good way to drive traffic and...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th August 2011, 08:50 AM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

You are welcome, Mr.RSmith.

Here is a capsule of another new AlertPay-enabled "program":

Name: AutoXTen
Pitch: Turn $10 into $199,240." Churches welcome.
Accompanying claim: "We are only...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th August 2011, 12:12 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

Those evil, criminal operations are affecting the ability of IMers to do business online, Suzanne. I'd dispute your assertion that "Everyone is well aware of crime," perhaps especially how it is...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th August 2011, 03:49 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

Steve,

You would be wrong to assume that I do not understand, sympathize or empathize with legitimate IMers whose lives have been altered because of developments at PayPal.

For the sake of...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th August 2011, 02:35 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

Suzanne,

Why do you need me to be appalled at PayPal as I share my opinion about AlertPay?

I don't want ANY honest IMer to suffer at the hands of ANY payment processor.

My point is that no...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th August 2011, 01:01 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

Quick addendum:

There have been lots of comments here recently concerning marketing on YouTube and whether Google is going to give IMers the boot.

It's worth noting that an IMer/promoter of the...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 12th August 2011, 12:31 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

Yes. And when PayPal recognized the problem, it did what AlertPay was unwilling to do: Immediately divorce an HYIP, which had disguised itself as a benevolent organization, from a key access point to...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th August 2011, 09:53 AM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

Steven,

After Internet Marketers who do not get the PayPal result they want get finished filing their complaints with the attorney general and issuing threats to take their stories to the news...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th August 2011, 08:51 AM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

Suzanne,

The title of this thread is "Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do."

You observe that the PayPal stories on the WF "are pretty scary," and you explain that you've opened a...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 10th August 2011, 11:05 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 10,169
Posted By Patrick Pretty
Re: Are You Afraid of Paypal? Here's What You Do.

A few random examples (current as of today). Please note that the "sales pitch" provided below includes only one element of the pitch. "Programs" often advertise multiple earnings "plans."

Name of...
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