Amazon Affiliate Income-Is it really possible to make over 1000 a month?

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I have been an Amazon Affiliate for about 3 years. I do research and read up on how to generate income from being an Amazon Affiliate. I see reports and screen shots people provide that shows the large amount of $$ they make each month. I have been researching a lot lately on how others make a living on the income generated from Amazon.

Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts? To generate the type of income I see other Amazon affiliates say they make would be great.

But I do wonder if what I see is true. I do make some Amazon affiliate income but not nearly enough. I would be extremely happy to just generate 500 a month from being an Amazon Affiliate.

So do other Amazon affiliates REALLY make 1000's of dollars a month from Amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author 8485marketing
    The key thing with Amazon referrals is that you promote high ticket items, I had a high ticket kitchen and homeware site that would regularly surpass the $1000 per month. I didnt have many amazon accounts though, and I would use my smaller 'satellite' sites to sell larger number of low value items to push up the commission levels so that i could recoup more on the higher priced items.

    I think thats the only way you can do it. I wonder if someone else here has some input that can be beneficial to you.

    I only have one amazon site at the moment and that is in the process of development. Its just so time consuming to get set up. If done nicely you can usually sell them on for a nice price too.
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    • Profile picture of the author fedor50
      Originally Posted by 8485marketing View Post

      The key thing with Amazon referrals is that you promote high ticket items, I had a high ticket kitchen and homeware site that would regularly surpass the $1000 per month. I didnt have many amazon accounts though, and I would use my smaller 'satellite' sites to sell larger number of low value items to push up the commission levels so that i could recoup more on the higher priced items.

      I think thats the only way you can do it. I wonder if someone else here has some input that can be beneficial to you.

      I only have one amazon site at the moment and that is in the process of development. Its just so time consuming to get set up. If done nicely you can usually sell them on for a nice price too.
      This. in addition to my experience it's just as difficult to sell a low priced item as it is a high priced one.also you must perform SEO for your site to help you bring in some organic traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author vavilen
    It is possible especially when you find a low-maintenance method of generating some commissions and scale it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    I'm sure it's possible, but for me it's proven easy to learn, hard to master.

    I have experimented with small sites, large sites, single pages, blogs, pure HTML sites, and I always hit that glass ceiling. I can NEVER make a substantial amount. I have around $100/month in pure passive (I haven't touched the sites in over 6 months), but this is dwindling. however when I was working flat out every day, I still didn't see a marked improvement, or anything like a full-time income even on the horizon. I gave up, but I'm sure there is some sort of formula out there...
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  • Profile picture of the author fedor50
    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    I have been an Amazon Affiliate for about 3 years. I do research and read up on how to generate income from being an Amazon Affiliate. I see reports and screen shots people provide that shows the large amount of $$ they make each month. I have been researching a lot lately on how others make a living on the income generated from Amazon.

    Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts? To generate the type of income I see other Amazon affiliates say they make would be great.

    But I do wonder if what I see is true. I do make some Amazon affiliate income but not nearly enough. I would be extremely happy to just generate 500 a month from being an Amazon Affiliate.

    So do other Amazon affiliates REALLY make 1000's of dollars a month from Amazon?
    Yes, there are many amazon affiliates who I personally know who make good money with their amazon sites. But these people know how to rank their sites high in the search engines, the right "buyer" keywords to target,etc. But yes it is possible
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  • Profile picture of the author Gsdlady
    I'm sure it's possible, but for me it's proven easy to learn, hard to master.
    Yes I know the feeling of easy to lean and hard to master.

    but I'm sure there is some sort of formula out there...
    Yes I agree, there must be a formula out there. It is just finding out what it is and learning how to use it and make it work. There are many amazon ebooks and courses out there for generating Amazon affiliate income, but which ones work and do they work?
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  • Profile picture of the author 8485marketing
    Target long tail term specific keywords for something you are promoting, if you yourself have bought it, do a review of it, if you haven't, find someone who has and ask if you can include that review on your site.

    With specific long tail keywords the person searching knows exactly what they are after, usually a hot prospect and if your product write up is more personal and not the amazon standard that hundreds or thousands of others have for it, then you really do stand a better chance of getting the sale.

    Video product reviews are also a very good way to do it. If you look on youtube, you'll find two young women who have done reviews for thousands of beauty products and each video has thousands of views and with new products such as perfumes being released all the time, they really are making a killing through amazon and various other affiliate networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gsdlady
    do a review of it, if you haven't, find someone who has and ask if you can include that review on your site.
    That is a good idea, Thanks for sharing that tip, but what about duplicate content? Would Google consider that as duplicate content?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    what about duplicate content? Would Google consider that as duplicate content?
    No. Google won't consider it duplicate content because it isn't duplicate content.

    Duplicate content, in this context, refers to having multiple copies of the same file within one domain.

    It's explained here (in the context of articles - but the principle is exactly the same): Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog

    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    Amazon Affiliate Income-Is it really possible to make over 1000 a month?
    Unquestionably. There are people making many multiples of that income from it.

    It was a very late addition to my own affiliate marketing (I've only been doing it for a few months, and more or less as an afterthought to my main business) but I already make over $1,000 per month from Amazon.

    If you compare it with something like ClickBank, commissions are typically smaller but conversion-rates far higher.

    Like almost all affiliate marketing, your income from it will depend on how good you are at list-building, communicating with your subscribers, establishing credibility and trust, and the extent to which people are willing to rely on the strength of the recommendations and representations you make because it's you who are making them. However much some people like to pretend otherwise, that's just "what it's all about", really.

    There are one or two (I think literally one, or maybe two) people who claim that it's possible to earn substantial four-figure monthly incomes from Amazon without list-building, but for myself, whenever I try to look at what they're doing, it always appears to me that selling "information"/"services"/"products" to beginning marketers - rather than Amazon affiliateship itself - might actually be their primary source of income.

    To earn significant money from affiliate marketing, you need to do three things ...

    (i) Keep your potential customers returning to the sales page (because not so many people buy anthing much at their first visit to a sales page!);

    (ii) Make increasing sales (ideally at progressively higher prices) to the same "captive audience" who regularly rely on and trust your recommendations;

    (iii) Establish the credibility and trust necessary to do both the above by earning's people respect as a provider of niche-related information.

    Without building lists, of course, you can't do any of the three and you'd just be throwing away almost all the traffic you ever generate that doesn't buy anything immediately.

    What kind of way to run a business would that be?

    For most people, most of the time, it's just about as simple as that, overall.

    These three threads are more informative ...
    Is it a good idea to spend some time on building a mailing list ?
    Without Building a List, How Consistent is Your Income from Affiliate Marketing
    Does anyone even make money online without an email list?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Wow Amazon Affiliate for 3 years and on significant income? How have you been promoting yourself so far?
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  • Profile picture of the author Gsdlady
    Wow Amazon Affiliate for 3 years and on significant income? How have you been promoting yourself so far?
    Well when I first started I did not know a lot and then was side tracked with other things in my life. I'm now at a different point in my life to where I'm looking to increase my knowledge and income.
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    • Profile picture of the author tjk1058
      I have seen some great courses here from some reputable sellers that might be able to help you speed up your learning curve. There was just one listed recently for 1 on 1 coaching for the Christmas season maybe you can still get in on?

      Either way... try to learn from people who are already doing it and can steer you in the right direction as it can save you a tone of time and expense.

      Good luck...

      TedK

      Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

      Well when I first started I did not know a lot and then was side tracked with other things in my life. I'm now at a different point in my life to where I'm looking to increase my knowledge and income.
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    • Profile picture of the author aliahmadikram
      The main element factor with Amazon online recommendations can be that you just promote higher solution things, I needed a higher solution cooking area as well as homeware web page that might regularly exceed.
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
    It's a process...

    1) Find buyer keywords with high search volume
    2) Build an attractive and branded niche review site built around the topic of those keywords
    3) Create in depth high quality product reviews and add them to the site
    4) Make sure your reviews are in-depth, well formatted and convert
    5) Rank the site for those buyer keywords and you have targeted buyer traffic coming to your site
    6) Turn the traffic into cash!
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  • Profile picture of the author Al Anshori
    try not only using review site or amazon store .
    try other method like youtube, pinterest, etc

    and if you find a way to make money, just duplicate it
    you can outsource it also to duplicate it
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    No question it's possible...but I personally am not a huge fan of Amazon affiliate marketing right now.

    My personal experience (and I want to stress this is my experience, I'm sure others are doing better) is that Amazon is actually a lot harder to make money with than other affiliate programs.

    I prefer selling products where I can earn 100% commissions, and make hundreds, even thousands of $$$ off of just one sale (including recurring, monthly commissions). These are mostly digital products (and not just Clickbank either, probably one affiliate program you may not have heard of) where the margins are much higher for me.

    Much easier to have profitable campaigns this way in my personal opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robsand
      Amazon has a tremendous amount of consumer trust. If you're selling a product that nobody has ever heard of it is going to be a tougher sale than pointing someone to Amazon via a product review.

      Originally Posted by mlord10 View Post

      No question it's possible...but I personally am not a huge fan of Amazon affiliate marketing right now.

      My personal experience (and I want to stress this is my experience, I'm sure others are doing better) is that Amazon is actually a lot harder to make money with than other affiliate programs.


      Much easier to have profitable campaigns this way in my personal opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    I have been an Amazon Affiliate for about 3 years. I do research and read up on how to generate income from being an Amazon Affiliate. I see reports and screen shots people provide that shows the large amount of $$ they make each month. I have been researching a lot lately on how others make a living on the income generated from Amazon.

    Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts? To generate the type of income I see other Amazon affiliates say they make would be great.

    But I do wonder if what I see is true. I do make some Amazon affiliate income but not nearly enough. I would be extremely happy to just generate 500 a month from being an Amazon Affiliate.

    So do other Amazon affiliates REALLY make 1000's of dollars a month from Amazon?
    There are two things you need to do. First, promote higher-priced items. Although this can scare some affiliates off, the thing you have to remember is that for the person buying the product, it's not about the actual cost but the perceived value they will get from it. Would you pay $500 or $1,000 for something that solves a problem you've dealt with for years or that will more than pay for itself in the long run? Most people would.

    Secondly, you need to cross promote items. Let's say that you're in the video game niche. Instead of just promoting the video game itself, it would be better if you did a main review of the video game while also promoted a game system and other things that the person who purchases the game might to into as like additional resources or whatever. This is a good way to remind them to pick up things that they may have forgotten about. Make sense?

    Good luck,
    Joey
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    • Profile picture of the author frankliu
      I think it is possible
      Depends on the traffic and quality of review articles
      Write more guest post to others websitesite is the best SEO methods
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  • Profile picture of the author Gsdlady
    Thanks for the great suggestions and ideas. This gives me a place to start additional research on my desire to increase my Amazon affiliate income. Some of the tips you suggested did not occur to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gsdlady
      I was just reading over all the suggestions and there are some good ones. A couple suggested that you need to "Rank the Keyword" for that product. Anyone have a site or other material that will teach you about ranking keywords?

      I have been doing some research and from what I have read you need to get back links as that is the key to ranking plus good SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Yes, many of us are making very good money as Amazon affiliates. They key to earning good money as an affiliate is good, targeted traffic. If you can get lots of people who are late in the buying cycle to your site, you will earn. The way to do this is to target specific products, not generic terms. For example, which term better indicates a visitor is ready to buy: "mattresses" or "serta perfect sleeper x5400 mattress"?

    Sure, I may get more traffic by ranking for "mattresses" but I'd much rather get a bunch of traffic from "serta perfect sleeper x5400 mattress" and related terms.

    My recommendation to folks is to stick with easy-to-rank products. By targeting low competition products, ranking becomes significantly easier and you can spend more of your time creating content rather than building backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author MovingAround
    I have read that Google dislikes sites with a lot of Amazon links as the SE treats Amazon as affiliate links too so I assume that by having a site which makes money via Amazon you would not be getting much Google traffic which is indispensable to making money online.
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    • Profile picture of the author tantivy
      It's not impossible to earn $1K a month as amazon affiliate, you just have to do it right, find what's work and what's not.

      See this guy (the link below) I read before I ventured as an Amazon affiliate. I told myself I can also do that. And so his early journey prove to be a common path for newbies. I wonder how much does he earns now.

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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Although it's possible, its pretty hard. I would spend my time promoting CB products than Amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chrisbroholm
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      Although it's possible, its pretty hard. I would spend my time promoting CB products than Amazon.
      I disagree, a lot. Usually you need a lot of time convincing people to buy clickbank products, and so have low conversion rates.

      Amazon is selling products that people already buy, they literally have their credit card out.

      Compare selling a clickbank product that targets a keyword like "how to lose weight fast"

      with an amazon review of a juicer against the keyword "Breville XXL Juicer review"


      I strongly believe that both methods can be highly profitable, and finding a clear winner is difficult, but calling Amazon "hard" is just wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author Adie
        Originally Posted by Chrisbroholm View Post

        I disagree, a lot. Usually you need a lot of time convincing people to buy clickbank products, and so have low conversion rates.

        Amazon is selling products that people already buy, they literally have their credit card out.

        Compare selling a clickbank product that targets a keyword like "how to lose weight fast"

        with an amazon review of a juicer against the keyword "Breville XXL Juicer review"

        I strongly believe that both methods can be highly profitable, and finding a clear winner is difficult, but calling Amazon "hard" is just wrong.
        I am running both authority sites in Clickbank and Amazon and both sites are now in their 3 years old with nearly thousands of pages. My Amazon earning is more than 12 times lower than CB and I think that's enough data to convince myself why I prefer CB....
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        • Profile picture of the author Chrisbroholm
          Originally Posted by Adie View Post

          I am running both authority sites in Clickbank and Amazon and both sites are now in their 3 years old with nearly thousands of pages. My Amazon earning is more than 12 times lower than CB and I think that's enough data to convince myself why I prefer CB....
          I wasn't questioning your preference, I'm sure that both can work very well. What I argued against was calling it hard. Congratulations on your success with CB
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  • Profile picture of the author Online Guru
    $1000 Is not that much hard if you choose the right niche and then have targeted traffic in your website. Just keep patience and see the result .

    Best of Luck !
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  • Profile picture of the author Manoj V
    Yes, it is indeed possible to make over $1000 a month. In fact it is possible to make $1000 from the sale of a single item!

    The key is to find high-priced items that sell and put it in front of people who need it whether it is via free or paid SEO, PPC or other forms of paid traffic. Here is a list of items I found during a random search on Amazon:

    1. Clive Christian Imperial Majesty Perfume for Women 16.9 oz Perfume
    Price - $435,000 | 15 customer reviews

    2. Sigma 200-500mm f/2.8 APO EX DG Ultra-Telephoto Zoom Lens
    Price - $25999 | 51 customer reviews

    3. 120293-0001REVK microsemiconductor
    Price - $10,000,000 | 23 customer reviews

    4. 21' Preferred (All Aluminum) Bleachers
    Price - $13,897.59 | 19 customer reviews

    5. Art of Dog [Hardcover]
    Price - $99,999 | 8 customer reviews

    6. Datastroyer Model 1000 Disintegrator
    Price - $127,769 | 17 customer reviews

    As you can figure out from the number of reviews, people are buying them in large numbers as only a few actually leave reviews after buying online.

    My point is there are hundreds/ thousands of products that can yield you a commission upwards of $1000 on Amazon. You need to take the trouble of doing suitable research, find them and promote them well. If you pick low priced items without doing enough research on how much competition exists for them and whether people will buy them online, not be clear on how to promote them and various other factors - you are bound to earn only pennies from your efforts.

    Of course low-priced items must be given due importance since their sales numbers can bump up your commission rates during the month. You need to have a good mix of high-priced and low-priced items so that you can earn commissions at the highest rate that Amazon offers.



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    • Profile picture of the author Gsdlady
      You are correct, I have been thinking of high to medium priced items. It did not occur to me to search for the really high priced expensive items. Thanks for sharing and the info you provided.
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    • Profile picture of the author qwerty101
      Originally Posted by Max P View Post

      Yes, it is indeed possible to make over $1000 a month. In fact it is possible to make $1000 from the sale of a single item!

      The key is to find high-priced items that sell and put it in front of people who need it whether it is via free or paid SEO, PPC or other forms of paid traffic. Here is a list of items I found during a random search on Amazon:

      1. Clive Christian Imperial Majesty Perfume for Women 16.9 oz Perfume
      Price - $435,000 | 15 customer reviews

      2. Sigma 200-500mm f/2.8 APO EX DG Ultra-Telephoto Zoom Lens
      Price - $25999 | 51 customer reviews

      3. 120293-0001REVK microsemiconductor
      Price - $10,000,000 | 23 customer reviews

      4. 21' Preferred (All Aluminum) Bleachers
      Price - $13,897.59 | 19 customer reviews

      5. Art of Dog [Hardcover]
      Price - $99,999 | 8 customer reviews

      6. Datastroyer Model 1000 Disintegrator
      Price - $127,769 | 17 customer reviews

      As you can figure out from the number of reviews, people are buying them in large numbers as only a few actually leave reviews after buying online.

      My point is there are hundreds/ thousands of products that can yield you a commission upwards of $1000 on Amazon. You need to take the trouble of doing suitable research, find them and promote them well. If you pick low priced items without doing enough research on how much competition exists for them and whether people will buy them online, not be clear on how to promote them and various other factors - you are bound to earn only pennies from your efforts.

      Of course low-priced items must be given due importance since their sales numbers can bump up your commission rates during the month. You need to have a good mix of high-priced and low-priced items so that you can earn commissions at the highest rate that Amazon offers.



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      I read somewhere that Amazon caps the commission at 25$, though this may only be for certain electronics. I am not sure someone would make above this amount on these above stated high end items..Does anyone have any other information about the commission on higher priced items?
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      • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
        Originally Posted by qwerty101 View Post

        I read somewhere that Amazon caps the commission at 25$, though this may only be for certain electronics. I am not sure someone would make above this amount on these above stated high end items..Does anyone have any other information about the commission on higher priced items?
        I'm pretty sure that's not true! Why would any one bother promoting big ticket items if they capped the commissions at $25!

        In fact, I'm only getting started working on my new Amazon affiliate sites...
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    • Profile picture of the author mkathy056
      After trying Clickbank, Amazon seems like a better outfit. Do you agree?
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  • Profile picture of the author BizOpGuru
    As the commissions are so low (last time I checked it was 5%) you'd have to either sell very high priced items or a large number of lower-to-medium priced items with lots of different income streams (10+ high performing review websites for example).

    Amazon does have an excellent level of trust associated as already mentioned which can be used to your advantage in conversion rate optimization.

    In my experience, it's much better to join multiple different affiliate networks in different niches to create multiple income streams and safe-guard your income incase of a decline in any particular market.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I typically focus on products in the $100+ range (preferably $400+) and I do very well. That said, I also have some sites that promote products in the $40-$100 range. What matters is that you rank and actually get traffic to whatever it is that you are promoting. Once you have late-cycle "buying" traffic on your site, you will make sales and suddenly, $1000/month is cake.
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  • Profile picture of the author RavishingRajni
    good question...even i keep wondering this
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  • Profile picture of the author prismkuet
    Earning from amazon is one of the toughest thing. I also saw a lot of people showing their big cheques of payments where my experience is really bad. I have struggled for years for earning with amazon's and still now that is not satisfactory. But those who are showing big earning may have different strategy and that makes them successful on that field!
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  • Profile picture of the author JayParker
    If you promote high ticket items you can make much more than that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    As wolfmmiii has said earlier, with Amazon you can focus on those keywords that attract buyers which are the product keywords. Go after those specfic product keywords!

    There are so many product keywords out there and a large percentage of them have really soft competition. Don't just look at the highest priced products! Furthermore, new products are ALWAYS coming out.
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  • Profile picture of the author majes
    you have to choose the right products. unique articles and a high converting theme. A pure review site is not easy to make money today.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post


    Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts?
    Alot probably aren't real. It's very easy to fake numbers in a screen shot unfortunately. It is however possible to make $1000+ per month and there are plenty people doing it.

    I think alot of people fail with Amazon just because they don't generate enough traffic. If your average Amazon commission is about $7-$10 you can hit your target with less than 150 sales. If you take your conversion rate and your CTR into consideration, it's pretty easy to work out exactly how much traffic you need to make $1000.

    I don't know what you're promoting, but many products see a huge spike in traffic and conversions from October onwards. My conversion rate for certain Christmas related products last year was over 20%.
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  • Profile picture of the author easternodyssey
    It depends on what they are selling and how large there website is. Any website with, +5,000 page views per month could easily reach this point. However, getting there is never that easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author LukeDavenport
    YES! it is very possible, i know guys who are making great commissions from physical and digital products via amazon. A lot of them switched over from commission junction for physical products. I was amazed.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Things to consider. How much are you paying for traffic, are you just going with organic results.

    Yes I make some money with amazon sites but I pay for the traffic also.

    I do not believe anyone is getting rich though after profits and loss from amazon anymore. You may hit pay dirt with a new product but with the competition out there it won't last long as more sites promote it.

    Thing with Internet Marketing is you have to be on the front lines, act quickly and get what you can while you can. Every good thing comes to a halt sooner or later.
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  • Profile picture of the author John J Brown
    selling for amazon is the same as selling for clickbank,
    the only difference is that the commission is much lower,
    but if promote items that cost over $100 and you know how to rank high in Google\
    it is really easy to make at least $1,500 a month
    if you have at least 10 amazon affiliate sites, and you make at least one sale per day, around 5 dollars,
    multiplied by 10 and then by 30 days, you get at least $1,500
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    If you believe people can make $1 then people can make millions. Simple as that.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Going to say this then shut my mouth.

    Lets say I find a new product on amazon and build a site around it. I want organic traffic so I seo the crap out of it. I even post in forums and blogs ect. I don't spend any money on traffic.

    By the time I get traffic the guys with the money have already bought the traffic and the product is stale.

    If you really do amazon then you know your not going to make a healthy profit without spending a healthy figure.

    I will not post to this again because you all know that sell amazon that I am right but if you want to argue the points pm me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter C
    Making $1000 is really possible. All you need is traffic to your sites. Once you are getting around 500 daily unique visitors to your site. You will see the difference in sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Contrary to what some will tell you, making a significant monthly profit as an Amazon affilaite is very doable (with or without paid traffic). I haven't paid for any traffic for any of my current Amazon sites and I'm earning 4 figures per month and I spend no more than an hour or two per day on those sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author marco005
      Hi,

      a little bit old thread but be on date enough, then there are many people who will make money as amazon affilliate,so the topic is not outdated- it is evergreen.


      @John J Brown; to make $1500 in month with 10 affiliate sites, how much pages must each of these sites have? 5,10 or more?

      and which keywords these sites use? Keywords with more than 2000 search volume in month? Please note,when you rank on #3 in google,you will get around 10% of the traffic.....


      @Max P; does amazon cap the comissions of these high high ticket items?

      And is paid traffic needed to promote such high ticket items or is free seo traffic alone target enough?


      @wolfmmiii; you are the amazon man.....to make a 4 figure every month with amazon,how big are youre niche sites? 5 pages,10 or more?????

      and you use only keywords with low search volume,while they rank easy? Is these search volume not too low to make good amount of sales /commissions? Or do you search for keywords that have up to 2000 search volume in month?


      Please note: when you rank on #3 in google as example, you will get around 10% of that monthly search volume traffic from the keyword you use.

      When you have the goal to get 1000 searches a day, then you must find da buyer keyword who has 20.000 search volume in month,but this keyword I'm sure is not easy to rank.



      best wishes
      marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author sam520
      Just curious how many sites you have to generate this income?
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by sam520 View Post

        Just curious how many sites you have to generate this income?
        Using the marketing methods discussed here in this thread, affiliates are doing this routinely from just one product on a standalone presell page. However, as mentioned from the onset, it ain't gonna happen with a static "review" site - no matter how well it ranks.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    yes multiple income streams are an good idea, but without listbuilding I think amazon is the best way, there are too many marketers who have mnake issues with cb as example, they not have high conversion rate, they have high money refund rate.....so will will not high profit from them...

    does other affiliate networks does have a such high money refund rate like cb too? (without list)

    I think when you will make big money with amazon like Paul and Wanda as example, you must build a niche site with more than 10 pages....more..........then with only 10 pages you can make good money yes but 10 sites are not enough that your site will make $1000 in month with amazon, the traffic is to low with 10 pages with low competition keywords to make $1000 in month.

    Please correct me if i be wrong.


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Please correct me if i be wrong.
      You couldn't be more wrong, Marco.

      You and I have had this conversation, in various guises, many times before. You are - as ever - looking at it primarily from an SEO perspective (in spite of that being, qualitatively, the worst kind of traffic there is, for affiliate marketing), and from the perspective of handicapping yourself by deliberately choosing not to do any of the three primary activities on which most affiliate marketing income rests, because all three of them require list-building, about which you appear - for reasons (if any) known only to yourself - to have a totally irrational phobia.

      I can assure you from my own experience that "the number of pages on your site" need have absolutely nothing to do with your Amazon-derived income at all.

      Any time you want to graduate to "the real world", it's there waiting for you in post #9 on the previous page of this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Top Amazon affiliates rarely use SEO, PPC or even "review sites" at all. To earn the big bucks (5-6 figures per month is really not uncommon), you need to have repeat buyers and engage your customers, often on a personal level.

      There are actually many, many effective ways for promoting Amazon products. IMNSHO, SEO and "review sites" are the least effective methods because you are forced to work with either lower competition key words or accept low ROI.

      My own preference is to sell high-end products in very competitive niches, mainly because they generally are the most lucrative. These links may be helpful to you:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...print-you.html

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ing-money.html

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-cost-10k.html

      I've been selling Amazon and other affiliate products the same way for over 13 years, and made a fortune. My marketing model actually is rather simple in concept: establish an "authoritative presence" using article syndication, build niche lists, then recommend relevant products to subscribers within these niche lists.

      An excellent tutorial describing this basic marketing model which I have frequently recommended in many of my posts is this timeless classic, "Turn Words Into Traffic", by Jim and Dallas Edwards. Also consider reading "Brand Against the Machine: How to Build Your Brand, Cut Through the Marketing Noise, and Stand Out from the Competition" by John Morgan.
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Hello,

      There is another way that I don't think anyone has mentioned here.

      Do you know the saying, The Money Is In The List, well it's a true saying, if you build a niche specific list you are targeting a hot market, people who are already interested in what you are offering.

      Then instead of trying to promote single Amazon products you set up your own Amazon Store or Stores on a website that you can direct them to from your ads in weekly or monthly Newsletters that you are sending to your list.

      I'll give you an example of a Business my 16 year old Daughter runs. It's for the music niche, specifically local type Singers/Bands/DJ's. We have built a list of over 10,000 now. She has set up a website with links to 5 Amazon Music Stores, Guitars, Drums, Keyboards, Recording Equipment, DJ Equipment. These 5 stores would have way over 100,000 items in total, so every ad in her newsletters is promoting 100,000 plus items, instead of single items that many Amazon Affiliates try to promote. And promoting to a HOT target audience who want to purchase these products.

      She also features other Affiliate items in her newsletters, other products that may not even be related to music, but would be of interest to her age group market.

      Amazon have many niche specific stores that you could build mailing lists for. You need content for your newsletter of course so better if you choose a niche that you have interest in, or you could outsource the writing of your newsletter content.

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        I'll give you an example of a Business my 16 year old Daughter runs. It's for the music niche, specifically local type Singers/Bands/DJ's. We have built a list of over 10,000 now.
        Tremendous.

        I just wish I'd known how to do some of that when I was 16 ...
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Tremendous.

          I just wish I'd known how to do some of that when I was 16 ...
          Hello Alexa,

          She actually started her first IM Business when she was only 14, encouraged by her GrandDad who mentors her. I do too of course but I think you can guess who she listens to the most. lol. With good reason though, he also mentored me.

          Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author sam520
        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        Hello,

        There is another way that I don't think anyone has mentioned here.

        Do you know the saying, The Money Is In The List, well it's a true saying, if you build a niche specific list you are targeting a hot market, people who are already interested in what you are offering.

        Then instead of trying to promote single Amazon products you set up your own Amazon Store or Stores on a website that you can direct them to from your ads in weekly or monthly Newsletters that you are sending to your list.

        I'll give you an example of a Business my 16 year old Daughter runs. It's for the music niche, specifically local type Singers/Bands/DJ's. We have built a list of over 10,000 now. She has set up a website with links to 5 Amazon Music Stores, Guitars, Drums, Keyboards, Recording Equipment, DJ Equipment. These 5 stores would have way over 100,000 items in total, so every ad in her newsletters is promoting 100,000 plus items, instead of single items that many Amazon Affiliates try to promote. And promoting to a HOT target audience who want to purchase these products.

        She also features other Affiliate items in her newsletters, other products that may not even be related to music, but would be of interest to her age group market.

        Amazon have many niche specific stores that you could build mailing lists for. You need content for your newsletter of course so better if you choose a niche that you have interest in, or you could outsource the writing of your newsletter content.

        Lindy

        Thanks for this idea Lindy. Just curious, with the stores your daughter has selected and the list she has built of 10k subscribers - what is her monthly avg income? Did it take her long to build her list? Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by sam520 View Post

          Thanks for this idea Lindy. Just curious, with the stores your daughter has selected and the list she has built of 10k subscribers - what is her monthly avg income? Did it take her long to build her list? Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
          Hello sam

          I started building the Music Niche list myself a few years ago, got it to about 5,700 before giving it to Sherri. That took me maybe 2 years or so but mainly using old ways such as classy ads in music magazines. It wasn't a big priority though, built it mainly because of my own interest in the music world, I'v been singing and have had bands since school days.

          Sherri has nearly doubled it in a year, but again she hasn't been able to devote a lot of time to it, she hasn't finished school yet, in her last year so has had to concentrate a lot on that, and as well she also has 3 other IM Business's to run.

          Her monthly income from her Music Niche - she's not big on accounting yet, she's only 16, all her income just goes into common accounts for all the 4 Business's, but she said minimum of five to six thousand dollars per month from the Music list.

          It's commonly accepted that a targeted list should return you about $1 per month per subscriber. Sherri has only been producing and sending one Newsletter a month to her subscribers, she would increase her results by sending weekly or even fortnightly Newsletters, which she intends doing when she finish's school this year and can concentrate full time on her Business's.

          Lindy

          Note: I'v mentioned this in other posts but will add here: This income is not just from the Amazon Stores. In her website (think of it like a Mall with the Stores inside) she has 6 Amazon Stores, Plus another Non Amazon Store, Plus a Clickbank Product)

          Her Newsletter is 4 page minimum and would normally average 6 to 8 Ads for her Affiliate Products. She promotes her website and Stores of course, but the products she promotes within the Newsletter are not limited to just those in the Website. For instance she has good success with high quality Tag Heuer replica watch's that are very popular with Guys, they sell for $625 with a 20% commission, so $125 per sale profit. Sell jus 8 of those an that's $1000 commission. High end American Sunglass's has been another good seller. So your not limited to jus promoting related niche products, in this case Music related products, she can promote other items too that she thinks would be of interest to her Subscribers.
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    • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
      Speaking of Amazon, I have supposed to have graduated to the 6% commission level but it looks like they are still only giving me 4%.

      Anyone ever had the same issue?
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by mootonandy View Post

        Speaking of Amazon, I have supposed to have graduated to the 6% commission level but it looks like they are still only giving me 4%.

        Anyone ever had the same issue?
        Are some of your sold items electronics? Electronics are capped at 4% commission.
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        • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          Are some of your sold items electronics? Electronics are capped at 4% commission.
          Ah - that would be why then
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    • I agree that it takes a niche site and up to 10 pages of VALUABLE content to make at least $1000 a month. Just stay consistent in what your doing and you will see results!
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    • Profile picture of the author samkadya
      I don't see why someone cannot make a $1,000 every month if he is promoting some big ticket items. As for the smaller items it is sometimes a waste of time. I remember selling hundreds of small ticket items and struggling to reach the $100 commission limit. I wish I had promoted the big ticket items.
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    • I personally had a great course on making money online with Amazon. The teacher is someone whom I believe has such great integrity that can be very rare in our industry. I never had time to focus on Amazon, reading these posts makes me think I better give it a go, I can then let everyone know my results.
      I believe if you focus all your skills on one thing it will eventually happen!
      Make it a Fantastic day!
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    • Profile picture of the author NewbieLifer
      I read through all of the replies and didn't see what type of link or widget the people are using that ARE having success. Do you use text links within your articles or pictures links? The Amazon widgets? or do you create your own button links?

      What works? and, does Amazon have restrictions on adding the links to email newsletters or copy and pasting the link address into your own images? Any chance of them taking away your commissions if you do that?
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I have found news, please correct me if I'm wrong there;

    amazon has a list with excluded products,when you promote these products you will not get pay by amazon.

    See here; https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ing/exclusions
    I hope this will help.

    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author certifying
      I think, they check high selling products and then make it excluded from commissions
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,


    Dear Alexa, I know from you that free seo traffic is the worst traffic for affiliate's, but on the other side than ppc traffic is better/best in your eyes to promote affiliate products?

    Ok, I be with you that with ppc traffic that the number of pages in my website has no to do with my income, it has to do how many money I can spend to get an amount of traffic to get sales.

    But the other side of a medal is there must be always two paths;

    1) one way for people who have money to spend (ppc traffic)
    2) other way for people who have no/ less money to invest, they must go for free seo traffic,there is no other alternative.

    Without have huge money to spend, you can not buy ppc traffic.

    And without ppc traffic I think the number of pages on a website has to do with the income, then when you will rank for easy low competition keywords who has not so high search volumes,you must build an larger amount of pages on your niche website to get decent traffic and sales.


    Example;

    1) buyer keyword has 20.000 search volume in month (difficult to rank you need high cost seo or ppc traffic)
    2) buyer keyword has 1000 search volume in month ( easy to rank)

    You will get spot#3 on google you get ca. 10% traffic from them,so you can calculate.

    When you have less money to spend you go with the keyword Nr.2, 10% of them you get 100 search volume and make 1,2,3,5% conversions it will depend on the quality of your content, then you will make 1-5 sales in month with these 1 keyword.

    You will make 50 sales in month? Then you will need 10 of these keywords.........

    That is my therory, please correct me if I be wrong.
    And go as amazon affiliate with ppc traffic i think it can be little bit tricky, you can not use the product name in an ppc campaign (?) and does google allow this method, get ppc traffic on a amazon affiliate site?


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      But the other side of a medal is there must be always two paths;

      1) one way for people who have money to spend (ppc traffic)
      2) other way for people who have no/ less money to invest, they must go for free seo traffic,there is no other alternative.
      Again, respectfully, I don't agree at all.

      I don't use PPC traffic at all, Marco. Nor do I try to use SEO traffic (I do actually get a lot of search engine traffic, just incidentally, but it doesn't convert for me any better than it does for other marketers, and I wouldn't want to make a living from it!).

      It's simply not true that "there is no other alternative".

      This idea that "there's SEO traffic, and there's PPC traffic, and there's nothing else" and that "the two types of traffic available for affiliate marketers are paid traffic and organic search-engine traffic" is simply a huge myth, right out of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing. :p

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      And without ppc traffic I think the number of pages on a website has to do with the income
      It doesn't for me. And it doesn't for others I know who make substantial Amazon income each month.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      That is my therory, please correct me if I be wrong.
      In my opinion, you're wrong.

      The reason you have this problem is that you're losing most of your traffic, because you're unable to make repeated sales to the same customers, unable to keep your traffic returning to sales pages, and unable to establish the credibilty-based and trust-based relationships from which most affiliate sales arise.

      People who refuse to build lists can't do those things, but those things are "where the money is", in affiliate marketing. That's not "good", and it's not "bad" - it's not your fault, and it's not my fault: that's just the way it is. There's no point in trying to pretend otherwise.

      You have a self-imposed problem, there, which many other affiliate marketers don't have.

      Ultimately, all I can do to explain why I think you're so mistaken is to refer you to post #9 on the previous page. But I've already done that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Darko Majcen
    Hello,

    why are you not promoting your own product?

    If you can create an affiliate website why are you not creating your own product. It's not that hard...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Darko Majcen View Post

      why are you not promoting your own product?
      I don't know whom you're asking, but I believe that for most people, most of the time, affiliate marketing is a far more secure, reliable, profitable and easily available income-source than creating your own product. Here are just ten of my many reasons for thinking this.
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      • Profile picture of the author tdouglas22
        Definitely taking notes on this one too!
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  • Profile picture of the author keith88
    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    I have been an Amazon Affiliate for about 3 years. I do research and read up on how to generate income from being an Amazon Affiliate. I see reports and screen shots people provide that shows the large amount of $$ they make each month. I have been researching a lot lately on how others make a living on the income generated from Amazon.

    Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts? To generate the type of income I see other Amazon affiliates say they make would be great.

    But I do wonder if what I see is true. I do make some Amazon affiliate income but not nearly enough. I would be extremely happy to just generate 500 a month from being an Amazon Affiliate.

    So do other Amazon affiliates REALLY make 1000's of dollars a month from Amazon?
    Most definitely, I believe its about strategy though. Its just a matter of traffic volume and high ticket items/popular items. If you can seek out other amazon affiliates they may be able to give you tips as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author roger h
    compelling thread this one
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @myob: yes do article syndication the right way (not to the article directories) will bring you target traffic.
    But when I have understand you,that this traffic you not send to your "product review" site,you build a list with this traffic?

    And then you promote high ticket items through your list ?

    But in practice; how many articles I must syndicate to get 100,200 people in my list every month?
    And after then, how much in % of these 100,200 people in list buy? Do you need high quality long presell "review" content who you send to you people in list? And the curious thing is, nobody can give me an answer about these questions,but many marketers can give answers about conversion rate, how many traffic with the right keywords and such things, but nothing about the traffic volume from article syndicat,conversion rate of a list,.........
    or this are secrets who a successfully marketer not tell me?

    When you write articles for a magazine in your niche you must know te traffic volume you get from them or not?
    You not have a plugin that check your traffic?
    You not known your conversion rate of your list?

    I don't believe that, every prof. marketer has monthly statistics about his traffic, opt in rates and conversions.


    I have heard that the conversion rate is not higher with a list,with good written content, it will be around 2-3% the same as when you build a one time investment mini niche site,the conversion is the same and you have less to work than with a list you have more to work on it.Ok the people in the list are your clients so you can sell product after product to them through the year and you not must do seo, that is the only benefit between a one time investment mini niche site.

    But to build a list, get traffic and subscribers every month and then make sales, this will often named as "Royal Road" or the "Masterclass" of affiliate marketing, I hope you understand whart I mean.

    I think this is not for any beginners in affiiate business and you must have money every month to invest to get article syndicate, good written content (outsource), you need a squeez page and you need good written autoresponder content (outsource).

    So you must do write a few long good written articles to syndicate every month that cost when you outsource it.
    build a squeeze page (can you do for free)
    send good written email to your subscribers (5-7) that cost when you outsource it.

    And the content for article syndicated must be sure, in good written high quality magazine style,who cost more than a good written 500 word article for $7.

    So the monthly cost when you syndicate 1 long magazin style written article every week
    will be far higher than you build a one time investment mini niche site every month.

    So I think this affiliate method is Step Nr.2 for me after I make money from mini niche sites,this I can invest in article syndicate and listbuilding,perhaps I be little bit afraid of that....

    And Thanks for the link tiopps in your post! I see the topic; The Hidden Power Of Amazon. Hands Down The Easiest Affiliate Marketing Around. A Blueprint For You, is about write product reviews and get traffic to them, not build a list.


    For this method I called step Nr.2, how do article syndicate,how outsource that,how outsource good written autoresponder content,get traffic to my list and how monetize products trough my list, I need a good detailed wso,blueprint...............you can recommend me a few ?

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      how many articles I must syndicate to get 100,200 people in my list every month?
      It's not about the number of articles, Marco - it's about where they're published.

      Article marketing isn't about "how many articles you have": it's about who reads them.

      But if you want a specific number, for each of my niches, I write and syndicate three articles per month, and that's more than enough for the content needs of my entire, full-time affiliate marketing business. (Two per month would be enough, to be honest).

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      And after then, how much in % of these 100,200 people in list buy?
      My own aim (albeit not always achieved) is for 50% of my subscribers to buy something, at some point during the email series. (Note that it's by no means always trivially easy, as an affiliate, to monitor this metric).

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Do you need high quality long presell "review" content who you send to you people in list?
      I think this depends on your style - and maybe even to some extent on the niche. I don't write very much about the products I‘m promoting, myself. I want just the fact that I’m the person recommending them to be “enough”.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      And the curious thing is, nobody can give me an answer about these questions
      I'm happy to ... but they're my own answers, from my own business, and I have no way of knowing whether they'd apply to your business, too.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      or this are secrets who a successfully marketer not tell me?
      The successful affiliates here vary, with what they divulge. Personally, I don't disclose my niches, list-sizes or income. I used to (apart from my niches), for the first year and a half of my business, but after that some of the negative and acerbic comments dissuaded me.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      When you write articles for a magazine in your niche
      You don't write articles "for a magazine" (at least, Myob and I don't): you write them for your business, and for your own site, and then for widespread subsequent syndication including to magazines.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      you must know the traffic volume you get from them or not?
      All you need is Google Analytics (or any equivalent) to tell this.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      You not have a plugin that check your traffic?
      I do ... I think almost everyone does? They're even available free, I believe?

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      You not known your conversion rate of your list?
      That's slightly more difficult to judge, as a vendor. ClickBank, for example, tells you your number of sales (as an affiliate) but not the customers' details. There are various ways of encouraging your subscribers to notify you of a purchase (Myob and I, for example, use two very different methods).

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      every prof. marketer has monthly statistics about his traffic, opt in rates and conversions.
      I agree with you about traffic and opt-in rates. Sale details can be a little harder to judge (though their numbers, of course, are known).

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      I have heard that the conversion rate is not higher with a list
      Excuse my bluntness, but this is nonsense. There are hundreds of threads in which thousands of Warriors not only say exactly the opposite, but explain why, at great length and in great detail.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      with good written content, it will be around 2-3%
      I don’t know where this figure comes from. It matches no reality I’m aware of! I repeat: my own aim (albeit not quite always achieved) is for 50% of my subscribers to buy something, at some point during the email series.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      But to build a list, get traffic and subscribers every month and then make sales, this will often named as "Royal Road" or the "Masterclass" of affiliate marketing
      It doesn't seem that way, to me. To me, it seems like a very basic necessity. Not only to me, but to all the successful affiliate marketers I know, affiliate marketing is a list-building-dependent business, pure and simple.

      Again, all my reasons for saying this, and links to relevant threads which explain more, are in post #9 on the previous page.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      I think this is not for any beginners in affiiate business
      I disagree with this. I think it's absolutely essential for beginners, and beginners who aren't willing to do it should look elsewhere (rather than at affiliate marketing) for their online incomes and to start their businesses.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      you must have money every month to invest to get article syndicate
      I started my business with about $50.

      I don't buy content. But I'm a writer, and I produce my own, and I feely admit that I started off with existing writing skills. That was why and how I chose this business model.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      good written content (outsource)
      I don't outsource content.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      you need a squeez page
      I don't use squeeze pages, for all the reasons explained here (and in the other threads linked to, here): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      and you need good written autoresponder content
      I re-use the articles as autoresponder content.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      So you must do write a few long good written articles to syndicate every month that cost when you outsource it.
      I think two articles per month is enough. What matters is where you get them published.

      That's the real work.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6575732

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7475055

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      build a squeeze page (can you do for free)
      You can, but I don't use them.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      send good written email to your subscribers (5-7) that cost when you outsource it.
      You can re-work the article content, easily enough.

      (Where does "5-7" come from?!).

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      And the content for article syndicated must be sure, in good written high quality magazine style,who cost more than a good written 500 word article for $7.
      Yes, that's perfectly true.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      So the monthly cost when you syndicate 1 long magazin style written article every week will be far higher than you build a one time investment mini niche site every month.
      Yes, that's true, too. Then again, of course, you can make a living from one (as so many people here have been explaining to you for so long now), and I think you know yourself that you haven't managed to do that from the other?

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      So I think this affiliate method is Step Nr.2 for me after I make money from mini niche sites
      Sorry to sound so disparaging, but I don't think you'll ever make money from them, without list-building, Marco. If you were going to, you would have done, by now, don't you think? I think very, very few people do.

      The rest of what I can say is here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8624542

      This will also interest you: how someone new to article marketing is getting on with it, in the early days: My Personal Challenge - Make $1500 by December 1st Via ClickBank and Article Syndication
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      I need a good detailed wso,blueprint...............you can recommend me a few ?
      See my recommendations in post #59. Also Alexa seems to have already answered nearly all of your questions with referenced links. Her answers are far better than any WSO, which you seem to keep missing.

      The only thing I would add is regarding selling high end products. What I do is build lists of buyers by offering nominally priced products (under $50), then promote (ie recommend) incrementally higher end products to my lists.

      As the sales cycle progresses, I obtain other communication channels from my subscribers, such as telephone contact, mailing address, social media, etc.

      Nobody I know has ever sold products in the 4-5+ figure price range without first building trust and consistently engaging their customers on a personal level through some kind of an integrated communication system.

      IMNSHO, the widely accepted conversion rates resulting from wimpy-assed "review sites" is far below the potential, and are not representative of the insatiable demand for quality products by consumers.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    how find websites that syndicate my articles, who list my niche site?

    I have now search in google for around 1 hour and the only that I found is alltop.
    Yes I have found a little bit more, but they not allowed; "commercial sites", "product sites" and such dumb things.

    When you have a website about industry cleaner as example, you are commercial and can not list your website or article to them or you have a niche website with an email sign up.........they not will allow you.

    Lol, they not allow you,then you steal their traffic to your list..............

    I think this is not the way how this business model work.


    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      how find websites that syndicate my articles, who list my niche site?

      I have now search in google for around 1 hour and the only that I found is alltop.
      Yes I have found a little bit more, but they not allowed; "commercial sites", "product sites" and such dumb things.

      When you have a website about industry cleaner as example, you are commercial and can not list your website or article to them or you have a niche website with an email sign up.........they not will allow you.

      Lol, they not allow you,then you steal their traffic to your list..............

      I think this is not the way how this business model work.


      marco005
      Don't take this the wrong way, but article syndication may not be for you. For your article to be syndicated, and for you to receive quality, targeted traffic, your article has to be of the highest quality before syndicators even think about sharing it with their readers. If you started to write articles in your native tongue then that may be a different story.

      I know you said, "And the content for article syndicated must be sure, in good written high quality magazine style,who cost more than a good written 500 word article for $7," but a magazine quality article is going to cost you significantly more than $7.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    The answer is yes. Full disclosure, I am an affiliate of amazon. They are a reliable company. Also, they have no problem in paying you. Problem is getting traffic to your web pages. Well, that is not so easy. Perhaps you need to understand what is going on. Most people who go to a review site are planning to buy the product, but not right away. Key is to be able convince your viewers. OK now, get out there and close em.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Big big thanks to you Alexa!
    I be buff that you have such an high conversion rate, wow that is affiliate paradise.....


    I think I must write every week 1 email to my subscribers trough the year to make sales quarterly? Hm, there is many content needed for that.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author bilbobaggins
    You can make $1000 a month with Amazon, but it is hard work. Especially if you are using organic traffic. There are so many factors to consider and with google constantly tweaking their algos its getting harder all the time.

    One of the best places to start is with top quality reviews. When creating a review of an Amazon product, you have to ask yourself 'would I buy something from this page' . If the answer is no, then why would anyone else. Quality reviews shift products.

    But you also have to get traffic. Doesnt matter how good your reviews are if you have no traffic no one is ever going to see them. So take the time to learn how to get traffic, whether thats organic from Google and Bing or otherwise. But it is definitely hard work, with highs and lows.

    People have mentioned selling expensive items. The upside to expensive items is better commisions. The downside is that they are harder to convert. And much more chance of returns. So ideally you want a good mix of cheaper items that dont earn much but sell themselves, and expensive items that give you a nice commission when they do sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Myob, ok the way is to sell them first products in price rabnge from $39-69, after when they have buy,
    promote higher ticket items to them.

    When you promote your higher ticket items to your buyer list? After 1 month,after 2 months ????

    I need a building list and list sales funnel guide/ wso,blueprint...

    There are marketers who are in the ebook market, they send every week emails through their list,week for week, month for month.......but hell who their have the content from to get ideas to write that amount of content????


    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      but hell who their have the content from to get ideas to write that amount of content????
      I re-use all my article content for my list-subscribers. Almost every article I write makes up two more emails to add on the series. (With only very little editing/re-writing!)
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    • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      I need a building list and list sales funnel guide/ wso,blueprint...
      I can assure you there's no such need. You only need to follow Alexa, Myob, John, and a few others, and connect the dots.

      Speaking of dots, does anyone here play it? My best score so far is 238. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      Myob, ok the way is to sell them first products in price rabnge from $39-69, after when they have buy,
      promote higher ticket items to them.

      When you promote your higher ticket items to your buyer list? After 1 month,after 2 months ????

      I need a building list and list sales funnel guide/ wso,blueprint...

      There are marketers who are in the ebook market, they send every week emails through their list,week for week, month for month.......but hell who their have the content from to get ideas to write that amount of content????


      marco005
      Higher ticket products are continually promoted to my lists; the next product in queue is sent the next day immediately following a purchase. In my marketing, emails are sent on a daily basis and include niche-specific news, information, free resources, reports, etc, and always a product promotion.

      As the sales cycle progresses, I obtain other communication channels from my subscribers, such as telephone contact, mailing address, social media, etc. Eventually, the email marketing channel is abandoned and sales are generated on a more personal level such as telemarketing, direct mail, mobile marketing, webinars, local seminars, and direct (face-to-face) sales.

      You keep ignoring the help provided to you, as the links and resources provided in my previous posts as well as Alexa's discuss this type of marketing in more detail. Specifically for list-building, Seth Godin's "Permission Marketing" is perhaps the basis for most WSOs and courses.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,


    wow, but wheren from you get this amount of content, when you can sent daily news to your list subscribers? Curation?

    How I put amazon products in my list? how I put related products in my list?

    Simple with my wp plugin ????
    How I do that all?
    I know nothing about these things; how I build a funnel in my list, hoew I put amazon(cb producxts in my list ???????
    How I do all these things?

    Therefor I look for a wso/guide, where I can learn these things.


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,


      wow, but wheren from you get this amount of content, when you can sent daily news to your list subscribers? Curation?

      How I put amazon products in my list? how I put related products in my list?

      Simple with my wp plugin ????
      How I do that all?
      I know nothing about these things; how I build a funnel in my list, hoew I put amazon(cb producxts in my list ???????
      How I do all these things?

      Therefor I look for a wso/guide, where I can learn these things.


      best wishes
      marco005
      You've been given so much quality advice, but it looks as if you want an exact blueprint on how to set everything up and make money. Everything you've asked about is already out there on the internet, whether that be on this forum or elsewhere. No one is going to hold your hand and tell you exactly what needs to be done. Just take some action and learn as you go along. The best way to learn is through trial and error. Ask anyone who is making decent money online and they will tell you the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,


      wow, but wheren from you get this amount of content, when you can sent daily news to your list subscribers? Curation?

      How I put amazon products in my list? how I put related products in my list?

      Simple with my wp plugin ????
      How I do that all?
      I know nothing about these things; how I build a funnel in my list, hoew I put amazon(cb producxts in my list ???????
      How I do all these things?

      Therefor I look for a wso/guide, where I can learn these things.


      best wishes
      marco005
      Curation is one of many potential information delivery methods, although I have never used it myself. For article ideas, consider signing up for Google trends, which sends to your email current news related to keywords of your interest. Also, subscribe to relevant ezines and offline publications. There must be books, newsletters and periodicals which cover your niche. If not, perhaps a serious rethink of niche choice may be in order.

      When advertising or promoting Amazon products using media other than your own website, such as email marketing, direct your prospects to one of your own pre-sell websites. Never include a direct affiliate link within any advertising media. It is not only poor marketing strategy, but it is also against Amazon's TOS.

      But once again, your questions have already been covered in posts, links, and references here in this thread as well as several hundred other threads related to these topics. If you need hands on help and can afford it, there may be mentors available here on the WF to get you set up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Maro you've been a member here for 3 years it seems yet you seem to lack knowledge of even the basics...what have you been doing all this time?
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    Yes, you certainly could make over $1000 per month. Especially in the few months leading up to Christmas. In addition, as you have more sales your earnings percentage will increase.

    Interesting discussion above. Most of my sales were from search engine traffic. I found the quality very good for sales, personally. As to which or what is best, I haven't seen qualitative or quantitative analysis of any of the sources of buyers. I think using whatever works for you is the best way to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Mak
    one top secret, but need to invest some money.

    join keywordspy.com membership, check the keyword Amazon spending on CPC, normally they will spend money to buy traffic for the high return keywords.

    also spy the top affiliates on the ppc campaign they are doing for amazon, just follow a proven winner.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wow thanks for the tip with keywordspy, I must lurke a little bit how the top marketer makes their email marketing and how they find monthly 2-3 products to promote (with link from email to their website -wordpress non official status-to my product review sites "handpicked"...

    But when I started, with 2-3 good compelling articles to syndicate lets say I get 100 subscribers every month, is that not to low to make a 4 figure in month wirth amazons less commission rate?
    Are cb or other affiliate networks better to promote with their higher commission rate in email marketing?


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      wow thanks for the tip with keywordspy, I must lurke a little bit how the top marketer makes their email marketing and how they find monthly 2-3 products to promote (with link from email to their website -wordpress non official status-to my product review sites "handpicked"...

      But when I started, with 2-3 good compelling articles to syndicate lets say I get 100 subscribers every month, is that not to low to make a 4 figure in month wirth amazons less commission rate?
      Are cb or other affiliate networks better to promote with their higher commission rate in email marketing?


      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello Marco,

      You have been given a lot of good advice here, but I will add some too.

      To be really successful you have to learn to think in different ways to others. My Dad taught me that most people don't really think for themselves, they just follow how others think and do what others do - so therefore they are all competing for the same markets in the same ways. They don't build up any competitive advantage for themselves.

      We have built a multi million dollar a year Business by thinking differently to others. My dad and I even have the word THINK printed out in red on a 6x4 photo and up on our whiteboards so we see that word hundreds of times per day to engrain it into our subconscious.

      I gave an example of one of my Daughters business's in the Music niche, how she uses different thinking in Affiliate Marketing. Sherri started her first IM Business at 14, she is now 16 and has four IM Business's and will have a turnover (profit) of around US$200,000 this year. At 16 and all from thinking differently to most. Sure she has had the benefit of us mentoring her and growing up watching what we do, but anyone can learn to do the same. Keywords - LEARN and THINK.

      I'll give an brief example of what I would do if I were going into a new niche for Affiliate Marketing. And this is not a niche that we are involved in.

      So say we say the Pet Niche. A few minutes search in Google gives us results saying it's a Multi Billion Dollar niche, people in US spend over 50 Billion Dollars a year on their pets. So that's a big enough niche for us to play in don't you think? lol

      OK now are there any Affiliate Programs available? Got to be kidding right? lol. Again do a Google Search for "Pet Affiliate Programs" and you will find more than a few. Now go to Amazon, do they have any Pet Products, yesss. Now go to ClickBank and you'll find a few more! lol. My point here - if you do some research you will find hundreds to thousands of Affiliate Programs for just the Pet Niche. And some in turn have hundreds to thousands of products in one place.

      So now we have a Niche Market to Target and we have literally thousands upon thousands of Affiliate Products to offer them.

      Now we have to find a way to build a list of Pet Owners/Lovers to market our products too. I'm not going to do all the work for you, but FaceBook is one way to do this, with software like SocialLeadFreak, or you can do it manually too.

      Then you create a weekly or fortnightly or monthly Newsletter for your Subscribers that has interesting content to keep them engaged and wanting to read your Newsletter. You sprinkle your Affiliate Ads through your Newsletter, links to your Amazon Shop or Affiliate Shops. You can also create a Website and again have great Pet type content on it, along with a heap of Banners or Links to your different Affiliate Shops or offers.

      You could further engage your Subscribers by having a FaceBook page where they can inter-react with you and other Subscribers by adding stories or photos/videos of themselves and their pets. And that gives you yet another way to promote your Affiliate Products.

      So there is a whole little Blueprint of how to do Affiliate Marketing in a much better way than all the PPC, PPV, etc methods.

      And not only for my example Pet market. Just THINK out how you could do this for any other Market you were interested in.

      I would actually advice you to make your own little THINK sign and put it up where you can see it. Then THINK about it. lol.

      Hope that helps you and others.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi Lindy,

    big big thank to you!

    So when I send out a weekly or every 2th.newsletter to my subscribers, iat the end of the content, I put a link to my wordpress site where I have a product review/ or a deep link to my affiliate shop product??????

    So does this works for amazon products in $400-600 price range to earn good comissions?
    O cb/jvz who pays higher commission, is the storno rate for cb products lower when you promote them in a list?

    Should I use simple email form or should I use the email in html design as my website?

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author senshai
      I've been in such a rut with my online business I have about given up. Something in your post sparked some ideas Lindy that I'm going to run with today. Thank you Lindy, myob, and Alexa for some really great posts in this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Originally Posted by senshai View Post

        I've been in such a rut with my online business I have about given up. Something in your post sparked some ideas Lindy that I'm going to run with today. Thank you Lindy, myob, and Alexa for some really great posts in this thread.
        Hello senshai,

        Your very welcome!

        Some advice, NEVER EVER give up. My first year in IM I made the grand fortune of US$408 in profits. I was trying to sell ebooks on ebay.

        10 years later, my Dad and I have one of the largest privately owned IM Business's in the world. If I had given up ???

        Lindy
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi Lindy,

      big big thank to you!

      So when I send out a weekly or every 2th.newsletter to my subscribers, iat the end of the content, I put a link to my wordpress site where I have a product review/ or a deep link to my affiliate shop product??????

      So does this works for amazon products in $400-600 price range to earn good comissions?
      O cb/jvz who pays higher commission, is the storno rate for cb products lower when you promote them in a list?

      Should I use simple email form or should I use the email in html design as my website?

      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      You can actually sprinkle a number of links throughout your Newsletter. As an example each of Sherri's Music Newsletters would be about 4 pages of content and she might have 6 to 8 Affiliate links in them.

      She tries to match some content with her ads. For example she has had some short stories about different classic guitars that have sold for very high prices. (She's just found these stories on MSN) So following the story she's added a Headline maybe like: Can't Afford A $100,000 Classic Guitar? We Have Over 26,000 Guitars At Very Affordable Prices. Then she adds the link to her Amazon Guitar Store, or to her website.

      So say your niche list was for DIY for Guys, and you were marketing power tools etc. You could have a short review of a particular power tool, then you would have your Amazon link (cloaked and personalised) to that particular tool. Somewhere else in your Newsletter you would have a link to your whole Tool Store. etc. Then you may have found a Clickbank product on How To Build Whatever. So again a short story then your link to that CB product.

      Doesn't matter what Affiliate Programs, you can mix and match in your Newsletters. The Affiliate products you are promoting just have to be fairly related to the niche you are promoting to. If your niche list was for DIY/Tools you wouldn't be promoting any IM products, etc.

      Yes works with any product price point, again in Sherri's Music niche, in her Amazon Stores she has products ranging from just a few dollars up into the hundreds of dollars.

      HTML emails allow you to show photos so makes a much more attractive Newsletter. Or you can do your Newsletter in Word with photos and then save as a PDF File, and attach that to a simple email. People are visual, they like seeing photos, a few page Newsletter would be very boring if it was jus all text. And you know the saying, a picture speaks a 1000 words!

      Hope that helps.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi

    Lindy, so that I can it better imagine (sorry I not understand all at once or I be one of the rare people who has flashes of light bulbs in their mind)shame,shame.........I must imagine this business model

    I make an example

    I begin to write and syndicate good content to get traffic and I get 100 subscribers the first month, then later every month 100 new subscribers.

    Then I send out my weekly newsletter to them with a link to my website who has "hand picked" products.......

    Affiliate products where I get lets say $40 per sale, I will get 10% conversion rate, so 10 people buy and I make $400 a month with these products.

    And after then? Better I have a big hand picked affiliate amazon astore, so that these people buy again from me month after month,to make this amount of money or more?

    Then in the 2. month I get new 100 subcribers, so then in the 2. month 10% of the new subcribers will buy my recommend products+ a percentage of the old 100 subscribers from the first month,

    so that with every month and 100 new subcribers my income will be up doubled month after month
    (old list clients+new list clients)????

    ???
    Does an amazon affiliate store with 1000 hand piecked products works great with this business model?
    Is it important to have the amazon astore (on wordpress) on "not publicy" status,so that this affiliate astore is only "exclusively" for my list clients ?????




    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Hello marco,

      First an idea - copy/paste all my posts into one Word document so it is easier for you to read through them all. When you have them all together it will be easier for you to follow.

      1. you choose your niche and find Affiliate programs for it via Google Search, Amazon Stores and ClickBank.

      2. You start building your list by whatever means, article syndication is fine but slow. You can do much faster with FaceBook. If you don't know how you need to find information or a course on using FB, there would be ebooks or courses listed here in Warrior Forum, or Threads about using FB.

      3. Your Newsletter is the free offer to get people to sign up to your list.

      4. You need a Squeeze Page and Auto responder to capture the leads and to send out your Newsletter. If you don't know how to design a Squeeze Page you can find someone in fiverr.com to do it for you for $5.

      5. Someone from fiverr.com may also be able to help you with your Newsletter. But you really should be learning all these things yourself, but fine to pay small amounts for others to help you if you need it.

      5. Yes you keep building up your list, growing it month after month year after year.

      6. You may not get 10% conversion rate of people buying, that's a high figure, but as your list grows so does your sales.

      7. Yes, as long as you are continually showing them new products you are getting sales from both older and newer members of your list.

      8. I have already said that the idea is based on Amazon Stores, as most have thousands of related products. Example Sherri's Amazon Guitar store has over 26,000 guitars and items alone. BUT you have more than 1 affiliate link in your Newsletter. You do a Google search for other Affiliate programs available for your niche, and you do a ClickBank search as well.

      9. The overall idea is that instead of just promoting 1 Affiliate product at a time, this way you can be promoting thousands of products at a time (mainly from our Amazon Store but some other Affiliate programs also have smaller stores with hundreds to thousands of products too)

      10. Amazon builds you your Store free. You just pick the overall product line. Example Pet Products. you don't have to handpick products or make your own store in Wordpress.

      11. You can promote your store in any way, not just to your list. You could make a FaceBook page for it or Wordpress Blog etc.

      12. So not exclusive just to your list customers. Usually people have friends with same interests, so we also ask them to recommend us to their friends who are interested in (whatever niche) so our list members or customers are also helping us to build our lists.

      Think that answers your questions. Where are you from marco?

      Lindy
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      I begin to write and syndicate good content to get traffic and I get 100 subscribers the first month, then later every month 100 new subscribers.

      Then I send out my weekly newsletter to them with a link to my website who has "hand picked" products.......

      Affiliate products where I get lets say $40 per sale, I will get 10% conversion rate, so 10 people buy and I make $400 a month with these products.

      And after then? Better I have a big hand picked affiliate amazon astore, so that these people buy again from me month after month,to make this amount of money or more?

      Then in the 2. month I get new 100 subcribers, so then in the 2. month 10% of the new subcribers will buy my recommend products+ a percentage of the old 100 subscribers from the first month,

      so that with every month and 100 new subcribers my income will be up doubled month after month
      (old list clients+new list clients)????

      ???
      Does an amazon affiliate store with 1000 hand piecked products works great with this business model?
      Is it important to have the amazon astore (on wordpress) on "not publicy" status,so that this affiliate astore is only "exclusively" for my list clients ?????




      best wishes
      marco005
      You are making this far more complicated for yourself than it needs to be. With the very powerful marketing model outlined for you in this thread, you could be getting 100 subscribers or more per day. A common cause of failure among Amazon affiliates is trying to promote multiple products at one time, because it's difficult for prospects to make a purchasing decision when faced with too many choices - particularly from unfamiliar sources.

      There are many ways of managing resulting traffic from the article syndication marketing model discussed here, but in my experience the most effective is to build a list of buyers from this traffic. You are not only maximizing highly qualified market exposure and credibility through syndication and its associated viral effect, but collecting email addresses of buyers can leverage future marketing campaigns to a conversion rate approaching 50%.

      For maximum conversions, try promoting one product at a time to subscribers, and let the customer-friendly marketing genius of Amazon suggest additional products. What I do is promote only one product on a stand-alone presell page daily for up to 3 months. When a purchase is made, the buyer is offered another related product promotion for up to 3 months, and continues on in 3 month marketing cycles for as long the subscriber makes purchases. You can earn a very comfortable income with just 15-20 niche products queued up in an autoresponder.
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        You are making this far more complicated for yourself than it needs to be. With the very powerful marketing model outlined for you in this thread, you could be getting 100 subscribers or more per day. A common cause of failure among Amazon affiliates is trying to promote multiple products at one time, because it's difficult for prospects to make a purchasing decision when faced with too many choices - particularly from unfamiliar sources.

        There are many ways of managing resulting traffic from the article syndication marketing model discussed here, but in my experience the most effective is to build a list of buyers from this traffic. You are not only maximizing highly qualified market exposure and credibility through syndication and its associated viral effect, but collecting email addresses of buyers can leverage future marketing campaigns to a conversion rate approaching 50%.

        For maximum conversions, try promoting one product at a time to subscribers, and let the customer-friendly marketing genius of Amazon suggest additional products. What I do is promote only one product on a stand-alone presell page daily for up to 3 months. When a purchase is made, the buyer is offered another related product promotion for up to 3 months, and continues on in 3 month marketing cycles for as long the subscriber makes purchases. You can earn a very comfortable income with just 15-20 niche products queued up in an autoresponder.
        Hello Myob,

        Although I like the advice you give in general, and for beginners it is perhaps better to learn from the ground up by first learning how to promote single products, I do disagree with your statement that common cause of failure with Amazon Affiliates is from trying to promote more than one product at a time.

        In fact, I think the opposite is true. I think most Amazon Affiliates fail because they are only promoting one (or a small handful) of products at a time.

        With our Business's my Dad and I use both Out Of The Box and Logical thinking, and we have grown huge IM Business's within just 10 years.

        Some of our thinking for Affiliate Marketing is based on the following:

        Shopping Experience - selling a single product, or even a handful of related products is like going back in time a hundred or two hundred years, when a shop may have sold a small range of pots and pans and nothing else. Or people may have gone to a Butcher to buy their meat, then to a Baker to buy their bread, then to a Market to buy their vegetables and so on.

        Of course some people still do that, but what is more popular today? Large Department Stores or Supermarkets where people have the choice of thousands of products in one place. Even smaller shops on our High Streets (or Main Streets) offer from hundreds to thousands of products.

        Now even Amazon itself is a good example of this, they started as a bookseller, but what do they offer now? Just about everything - because they understand that people prefer a one stop shopping solution. They also understand, just like Department Stores, Supermarkets, and many other Business types such as Home Depot for example, that a customer may come in with a single product purchase in mind, but because of the huge amount of products offered and on display, they are likely to walk out with a number of items, not just the single item they came to buy.

        Now it is jus logical thinking, if you are offering your customer jus one product, that's all he or she can buy from you. Or until they hear from you again and you offer them another single product, which they then might buy from you if they havn't already bought it from someone else, because they didn't even know you sold that item too.

        The Affiliate Business Model that I put forward is hugely successful for us. Build Niche Interest Lists > Use Newsletters with Multiple Affiliate Offers > Sending them to our Stores or Websites where they have the choice of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of related interest products.

        I gave an example of one of my Daughters Business's where she has 5 Amazon Music Stores, another related Store and a ClickBank product, but in total could be way upwards of 100,000 items. Someone going there to buy a Guitar for example has a choice of over 26,000 Guitars and then they could look at thousands of related accessories. If they want to do some home recording, well here is another store with just as many items. They don't have to think of going anywhere else ever again, because they have found she has a Music Superstore. They are likely to buy more than the single product they came looking for, but they are also likely to come back often to buy more, because they now know that everything they can ever want is right there in these stores.

        I'll give another example, I have a Newsletter relating to young Women, from maybe 18 years of age to mid 30's or so. One advertisement in all my Newsletter issues is for an Affiliate Shop that sells perfumes, makeup and skincare products for Women, but also a huge range of men's fragrances and products, over 14,000 products in all. Can you imagine any Woman going in there and only buying 1 single product? Nooooo lol. Us girls need our beauty products, and we also buy products for Boyfriends or Husbands, even our Dads. AND we jus luv shopping, so how many sales do you think I'd be missing out on if I was offering 1 single product at a time?

        For that same niche and in each Newsletter I am also promoting Affiliate Shops offering Clothing, offering Jewellery, offering Handbags and Purses, offering Sunglass's etc.

        Women need all those things, and heaps of them. lol. Would I be a very smart girl to offer them just a tiny few products and let them buy everything else somewhere else? Nooooo! lol

        Is it harder to do then jus promoting single products. Not that much harder, Sherri is only 16 still and she's making more than an adult wage every week just from her Music List of bit over 10,000 singers/musicians/bands. My Dad and I are making around maybe two million dollars a year just from our Affiliate Marketing to about 8 different niche markets. So our Affiliate Model is well and truly proven, and I have fairly well outlined it I think in a number of posts in this thread, I think most could follow it, or can ask more questions.

        So that's why I think you are wrong in that aspect of your advice.

        Lindy
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

          Hello Myob,

          Although I like the advice you give in general, and for beginners it is perhaps better to learn from the ground up by first learning how to promote single products, I do disagree with your statement that common cause of failure with Amazon Affiliates is from trying to promote more than one product at a time.

          In fact, I think the opposite is true. I think most Amazon Affiliates fail because they are only promoting one (or a small handful) of products at a time.

          With our Business's my Dad and I use both Out Of The Box and Logical thinking, and we have grown huge IM Business's within just 10 years.

          Some of our thinking for Affiliate Marketing is based on the following:

          Shopping Experience - selling a single product, or even a handful of related products is like going back in time a hundred or two hundred years, when a shop may have sold a small range of pots and pans and nothing else. Or people may have gone to a Butcher to buy their meat, then to a Baker to buy their bread, then to a Market to buy their vegetables and so on.

          Of course some people still do that, but what is more popular today? Large Department Stores or Supermarkets where people have the choice of thousands of products in one place. Even smaller shops on our High Streets (or Main Streets) offer from hundreds to thousands of products.

          Now even Amazon itself is a good example of this, they started as a bookseller, but what do they offer now? Just about everything - because they understand that people prefer a one stop shopping solution. They also understand, just like Department Stores, Supermarkets, and many other Business types such as Home Depot for example, that a customer may come in with a single product purchase in mind, but because of the huge amount of products offered and on display, they are likely to walk out with a number of items, not just the single item they came to buy.

          Now it is jus logical thinking, if you are offering your customer jus one product, that's all he or she can buy from you. Or until they hear from you again and you offer them another single product, which they then might buy from you if they havn't already bought it from someone else, because they didn't even know you sold that item too.

          The Affiliate Business Model that I put forward is hugely successful for us. Build Niche Interest Lists > Use Newsletters with Multiple Affiliate Offers > Sending them to our Stores or Websites where they have the choice of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of related interest products.

          I gave an example of one of my Daughters Business's where she has 5 Amazon Music Stores, another related Store and a ClickBank product, but in total could be way upwards of 100,000 items. Someone going there to buy a Guitar for example has a choice of over 26,000 Guitars and then they could look at thousands of related accessories. If they want to do some home recording, well here is another store with just as many items. They don't have to think of going anywhere else ever again, because they have found she has a Music Superstore. They are likely to buy more than the single product they came looking for, but they are also likely to come back often to buy more, because they now know that everything they can ever want is right there in these stores.

          I'll give another example, I have a Newsletter relating to young Women, from maybe 18 years of age to mid 30's or so. One advertisement in all my Newsletter issues is for an Affiliate Shop that sells perfumes, makeup and skincare products for Women, but also a huge range of men's fragrances and products, over 14,000 products in all. Can you imagine any Woman going in there and only buying 1 single product? Nooooo lol. Us girls need our beauty products, and we also buy products for Boyfriends or Husbands, even our Dads. AND we jus luv shopping, so how many sales do you think I'd be missing out on if I was offering 1 single product at a time?

          For that same niche and in each Newsletter I am also promoting Affiliate Shops offering Clothing, offering Jewellery, offering Handbags and Purses, offering Sunglass's etc.

          Women need all those things, and heaps of them. lol. Would I be a very smart girl to offer them just a tiny few products and let them buy everything else somewhere else? Nooooo! lol

          Is it harder to do then jus promoting single products. Not that much harder, Sherri is only 16 still and she's making more than an adult wage every week just from her Music List of bit over 10,000 singers/musicians/bands. My Dad and I are making around maybe two million dollars a year just from our Affiliate Marketing to about 8 different niche markets. So our Affiliate Model is well and truly proven, and I have fairly well outlined it I think in a number of posts in this thread, I think most could follow it, or can ask more questions.

          So that's why I think you are wrong in that aspect of your advice.

          Lindy
          Dang Lindy! Nice work on making super affiliate status.

          I agree with you that it is not really that hard to make over 1K a month as an affiliate, especially selling physical products.

          I do well with the review site model and also compliment that with building lists in the different niches.

          To the OP, don't disregard review sites completely. If done properly they can make a lot of money. Just look at Product Reviews and Reports - ConsumerSearch.com They probably also make a few million a year.

          Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    I suggest a mixture of items, in which you can sell a high volume, will get you up to the maximum percentage of 7% for a month.

    And high value items so you get the best commission.

    It's better to sell 100 items with a mix of high and low value for 7%, rather than 10 high value items for 4% commission.

    You also have to consider that any returns mean you lose that commission, so the more sales the better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    If you can make anything more than zero, from Amazon sites, then OF COURSE you can make $1000 a month . . . you just multiply your efforts! If each site makes a dollar a month, then you need a thousand of them, if each site makes $10 a month, you need 100 sites, etc.

    I have a bunch of Amazon sites up, and certainly make money from them. I am not making the profits per page that certain Amazon courses say they are making, but I am aware that my current sites, and backlink strategy, can be improved, and the profits I am making continue to come in years after I did the sites (most of them I've not updated at all in several years, and are still making money). So I consider Amazon a great choice!

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    • Profile picture of the author Yaros
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      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      If you can make anything more than zero, from Amazon sites, then OF COURSE you can make $1000 a month . . . you just multiply your efforts! If each site makes a dollar a month, then you need a thousand of them, if each site makes $10 a month, you need 100 sites, etc.

      I have a bunch of Amazon sites up, and certainly make money from them. I am not making the profits per page that certain Amazon courses say they are making, but I am aware that my current sites, and backlink strategy, can be improved, and the profits I am making continue to come in years after I did the sites (most of them I've not updated at all in several years, and are still making money). So I consider Amazon a great choice!

      Chris
      Chris, could you tell me, how many products does your single site has on average? And what system these sites are built in?
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  • Profile picture of the author clbks
    I did it for awhile then they canceled affiliates in my state. So I did all that work only to loose everything I set up.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    a big big thanks to you Lindy and Myob!!!
    Yes I be little bit complicated why? I don't know, perhaps God has say to me; You must be complicated!

    I wish I could be easy,simple thats my problem, other people says to me; marco you make it more complicated as it is,shame,shame.

    Lindy:So I will put your answers/guide in an word document,and will look at this forum for how to get fast facebook subscribers and I will get start.

    I think like Myob says,at beginning it is better to start promoting not more than 1-3 affiliate products,from cb/jvz and someone.......promote them for 2-3 months, after then I look for another products the commissions from them are way higher than from amazon, when I get at the beginning
    not more than 100 subscribers in month,amazon will be not enough.

    I be from europe and little bit afraid about fb, "soccerbörg" a big zionist knows all about you, he is not interesting in your wealth. So when I live in europe can I build a fb fanpage only for us market?

    Can I use multiple (multiple niches) names= pen names on fb ????
    I don't know, suggarbörg wants your money,wants all your private data, I be afraid of this,NSA knows all about me (us) looool........your BOSS can see what you make in the net....



    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      a big big thanks to you Lindy and Myob!!!
      Yes I be little bit complicated why? I don't know, perhaps God has say to me; You must be complicated!

      I wish I could be easy,simple thats my problem, other people says to me; marco you make it more complicated as it is,shame,shame.

      Lindy:So I will put your answers/guide in an word document,and will look at this forum for how to get fast facebook subscribers and I will get start.

      I think like Myob says,at beginning it is better to start promoting not more than 1-3 affiliate products,from cb/jvz and someone.......promote them for 2-3 months, after then I look for another products the commissions from them are way higher than from amazon, when I get at the beginning
      not more than 100 subscribers in month,amazon will be not enough.

      I be from europe and little bit afraid about fb, "soccerbörg" a big zionist knows all about you, he is not interesting in your wealth. So when I live in europe can I build a fb fanpage only for us market?

      Can I use multiple (multiple niches) names= pen names on fb ????
      I don't know, suggarbörg wants your money,wants all your private data, I be afraid of this,NSA knows all about me (us) looool........your BOSS can see what you make in the net....



      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      I should have said, not only my replies but go through the thread and put other good advice into your Word Doc too. Say you call it Affiliate Marketing Advice. You are really building up your own Database of information about Affiliate Marketing that you can refer back to and learn from as you go along.

      Then when you start reading threads on FaceBook Marketing, do the same with another Word Doc. you are getting real advice here in the Warrior Forum from people who are actually successful in doing these things, that can be much better advice than in a lot of ebooks on the same subjects.

      Yes fine to start off as Myob says, jus start off and keep learning and you will eventually get there, don't ever give up.

      Yes you can jus target America for your marketing even though you live in Europe.

      Don't know what you mean by soccerborg! lol

      But I wish you very well with your Internet Marketing.

      Blessed Be marco.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author Yaros
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    I have never tried to earn with Amazon affiliate program, however I have an affiliate account and sometimes build Amazon affiliate niche stores for custom orders. Recently I was asked to create 15 Amazon affiliate stores. To this moment my client has paid for 10 stores, other 5 ready stores I had to hold back until getting 100% payment. I have just checked my Amazon affiliate account and was surprised to find out that these stores have brought me $29.80 as an affiliate commission. I am amazed to see such profit from websites which had been launched not long ago (9 days ago) without any SEO and marketing work.

    I wonder, how can it be possible? I thought that such stores need rather extensive marketing work before they can start making any money. May be the reason in chosing good niches, long-tail keywords or in the amount of products presented at these sites, or jut a luck... If someone has an experience, could you share it? How long does it usually take for your Amazon affiliate sites to start bringing profit?
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by Yaros View Post

      I have never tried to earn with Amazon affiliate program, however I have an affiliate account and sometimes build Amazon affiliate niche stores for custom orders. Recently I was asked to create 15 Amazon affiliate stores. To this moment my client has paid for 10 stores, other 5 ready stores I had to hold back until getting 100% payment. I have just checked my Amazon affiliate account and was surprised to find out that these stores have brought me $29.80 as an affiliate commission. I am amazed to see such profit from websites which had been launched not long ago (9 days ago) without any SEO and marketing work.

      I wonder, how can it be possible? I thought that such stores need rather extensive marketing work before they can start making any money. May be the reason in chosing good niches, long-tail keywords or in the amount of products presented at these sites, or jut a luck... If someone has an experience, could you share it? How long does it usually take for your Amazon affiliate sites to start bringing profit?
      Hello Yaros,

      Most likely to be from the longtail keywords, they can be very effective. The store niche or number of products in your store has nothing to do with getting anyone to your store.

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author Yaros
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        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        Hello Yaros,

        Most likely to be from the longtail keywords, they can be very effective. The store niche or number of products in your store has nothing to do with getting anyone to your store.

        Lindy
        Thank you, Lindy. I also incline to the longtail keywords reason. Will continue testing. But the more products you have on your store, the more longtail keywords keywords your store has, isn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Lindy, in europe in TV they call Zuckerberg not like in american language speak, they call it like;

    "soccerbörg" normal in american englisch; zucker= suger ,like sugerberg,sugerbörg.......
    but in europe they call him it is hearing like "soccerbörg"......

    Lindy, can I use multiple pen names in facebook? How do?
    I think I must put my real phone number to activate my fb account?
    In moment I be little bit afraid about the "data monster" fb.

    So now I look now for an good fb marketing thread and about this I make an word document to my "fb marketing plan"..............

    You are from uk? UK must be great and great people I plan to visit UK (London) in next 2 years.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @Steve; big thank to you for your tip!

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author bh4nuc0der
    Nice post mate keep it uo
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      Hello Myob
      Hello Lindy.

      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      Although I like the advice you give in general, and for beginners it is perhaps better to learn from the ground up by first learning how to promote single products, I do disagree with your statement that common cause of failure with Amazon Affiliates is from trying to promote more than one product at a time.
      Conversion rates drop considerably when prospects encounter multiple products on Amazon affiliate websites. However, by focusing on one product at a time, a prospect is far more likely to click through to the Amazon site. From there, the tremendous marketing engine of Amazon takes over, and the prospect may end up buying additional products. Furthermore, it is not unusual to see purchases completely unrelated to the original promotion thanks to Amazon's very powerful product suggestion algorithm. What I teach all my writers is that their primary job is to drive prospects to Amazon. One product at a time targeted to a specific demographic is the vehicle.


      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      In fact, I think the opposite is true. I think most Amazon Affiliates fail because they are only promoting one (or a small handful) of products at a time.
      You think? Try doing some split testing with your marketing specific to Amazon; there is a better than 90% chance you will reach the same conclusion about conversion rates as I have nearly 16 years ago. Ongoing testing with additional niches repeatedly confirms these results.


      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      With our Business's my Dad and I use both Out Of The Box and Logical thinking, and we have grown huge IM Business's within just 10 years.
      Congratulations!


      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      Some of our thinking for Affiliate Marketing is based on the following:

      Shopping Experience - selling a single product, or even a handful of related products is like going back in time a hundred or two hundred years, when a shop may have sold a small range of pots and pans and nothing else. Or people may have gone to a Butcher to buy their meat, then to a Baker to buy their bread, then to a Market to buy their vegetables and so on.

      Of course some people still do that, but what is more popular today? Large Department Stores or Supermarkets where people have the choice of thousands of products in one place. Even smaller shops on our High Streets (or Main Streets) offer from hundreds to thousands of products.

      Now even Amazon itself is a good example of this, they started as a bookseller, but what do they offer now? Just about everything - because they understand that people prefer a one stop shopping solution. They also understand, just like Department Stores, Supermarkets, and many other Business types such as Home Depot for example, that a customer may come in with a single product purchase in mind, but because of the huge amount of products offered and on display, they are likely to walk out with a number of items, not just the single item they came to buy.
      Some of my thinking for Affiliate Marketing as an Amazon affiliate is based on the following:

      Shopping Experience - Amazon offers well over a million different products with price ranges from a few cents to hundreds of thousands of dollars or more. Most (60%+) of Amazon's sales especially in the high end are generated without affiliates at all; either through brand name recognition, direct online/offline promotions, repeat buyers etc.

      By promoting only one product at a time to our niche list subscribers, we are establishing foundations for long-term relationships and trust through a series of successful business transactions. Emails are sent on a daily basis to 96 highly targeted niche lists using this very simple marketing system - tightly focusing on just one product for up to three months. We are averaging a 43% conversion rate on these promotion cycles across all 96 niche lists.

      When any purchase is made (not always the product being promoted), the customer is then offered an incrementally higher end product over the next three-month promotion cycle. Promotion cycles continue with additional products until the subscriber stops buying, becomes inactive, unsubscribes, or dies.


      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      Now it is jus logical thinking, if you are offering your customer jus one product, that's all he or she can buy from you. Or until they hear from you again and you offer them another single product, which they then might buy from you if they havn't already bought it from someone else, because they didn't even know you sold that item too.
      Email marketing and other communication channels on a daily basis makes it highly unlikely customers will buy from anyone else. We often get calls from established customers who are considering comparable products, and request our "recommendation". Customers do become quite accustomed to buying through my affiliate links because they have learned to trust me and the boys (and girls) as "experts". This is when marketing becomes its finest - the art of true salesmanship based on mutual trusting relationships.


      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      The Affiliate Business Model that I put forward is hugely successful for us. Build Niche Interest Lists > Use Newsletters with Multiple Affiliate Offers > Sending them to our Stores or Websites where they have the choice of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of related interest products.
      Good for you. But, are we really that much different in marketing approach? Our prospects get sent to a website where a million+ products are being sold.


      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      I gave an example of one of my Daughters Business's where she has 5 Amazon Music Stores, another related Store and a ClickBank product, but in total could be way upwards of 100,000 items. Someone going there to buy a Guitar for example has a choice of over 26,000 Guitars and then they could look at thousands of related accessories. If they want to do some home recording, well here is another store with just as many items. They don't have to think of going anywhere else ever again, because they have found she has a Music Superstore. They are likely to buy more than the single product they came looking for, but they are also likely to come back often to buy more, because they now know that everything they can ever want is right there in these stores.

      I'll give another example, I have a Newsletter relating to young Women, from maybe 18 years of age to mid 30's or so. One advertisement in all my Newsletter issues is for an Affiliate Shop that sells perfumes, makeup and skincare products for Women, but also a huge range of men's fragrances and products, over 14,000 products in all. Can you imagine any Woman going in there and only buying 1 single product? Nooooo lol. Us girls need our beauty products, and we also buy products for Boyfriends or Husbands, even our Dads. AND we jus luv shopping, so how many sales do you think I'd be missing out on if I was offering 1 single product at a time?

      For that same niche and in each Newsletter I am also promoting Affiliate Shops offering Clothing, offering Jewellery, offering Handbags and Purses, offering Sunglass's etc.

      Women need all those things, and heaps of them. lol. Would I be a very smart girl to offer them just a tiny few products and let them buy everything else somewhere else? Nooooo! lol

      Is it harder to do then jus promoting single products. Not that much harder, Sherri is only 16 still and she's making more than an adult wage every week just from her Music List of bit over 10,000 singers/musicians/bands. My Dad and I are making around maybe two million dollars a year just from our Affiliate Marketing to about 8 different niche markets. So our Affiliate Model is well and truly proven, and I have fairly well outlined it I think in a number of posts in this thread, I think most could follow it, or can ask more questions.
      For any other affiliate network besides Amazon, even as an independent rep or vendor, I perhaps would agree with you.


      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      So that's why I think you are wrong in that aspect of your advice.
      Likewise. So how is promoting products in the 5-6 figure price range working out for you?
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Hello Lindy.



        Conversion rates drop considerably when prospects encounter multiple products on Amazon affiliate websites. However, by focusing on one product at a time, a prospect is far more likely to click through to the Amazon site. From there, the tremendous marketing engine of Amazon takes over, and the prospect may end up buying additional products. Furthermore, it is not unusual to see purchases completely unrelated to the original promotion thanks to Amazon's very powerful product suggestion algorithm. What I teach all my writers is that their primary job is to drive prospects to Amazon. One product at a time targeted to a specific demographic is the vehicle.




        You think? Try doing some split testing with your marketing specific to Amazon; there is a better than 90% chance you will reach the same conclusion about conversion rates as I have nearly 16 years ago. Ongoing testing with additional niches repeatedly confirms these results.




        Congratulations!




        Some of my thinking for Affiliate Marketing as an Amazon affiliate is based on the following:

        Shopping Experience - Amazon offers well over a million different products with price ranges from a few cents to hundreds of thousands of dollars or more. Most (60%+) of Amazon's sales especially in the high end are generated without affiliates at all; either through brand name recognition, direct online/offline promotions, repeat buyers etc.

        By promoting only one product at a time to our niche list subscribers, we are establishing foundations for long-term relationships and trust through a series of successful business transactions. Emails are sent on a daily basis to 96 highly targeted niche lists using this very simple marketing system - tightly focusing on just one product for up to three months. We are averaging a 43% conversion rate on these promotion cycles across all 96 niche lists.

        When any purchase is made (not always the product being promoted), the customer is then offered an incrementally higher end product over the next three-month promotion cycle. Promotion cycles continue with additional products until the subscriber stops buying, becomes inactive, unsubscribes, or dies.




        Email marketing and other communication channels on a daily basis makes it highly unlikely customers will buy from anyone else. We often get calls from established customers who are considering comparable products, and request our "recommendation". Customers do become quite accustomed to buying through my affiliate links because they have learned to trust me and the boys (and girls) as "experts". This is when marketing becomes its finest - the art of true salesmanship based on mutual trusting relationships.




        Good for you. But, are we really that much different in marketing approach? Our prospects get sent to a website where a million+ products are being sold.




        For any other affiliate network besides Amazon, even as an independent rep or vendor, I perhaps would agree with you.




        Likewise. So how is promoting products in the 5-6 figure price range working out for you?
        Hello myob,

        Remember I'm a Woman so I want to get the last word in! Thanks for your detailed reply, but I still think I'm right though! lol

        But saying that, there is certainly more than one way to do most things. My Dad is Australian and he uses a funny saying: "There's more than one way to skin a cat", so yes your way will work too, jus not as good as my way. lol Jus razzing you.

        I'll answer your last question first. So far we have never really tried selling any products in the high price range. Your talking about products ranging in price from $1000 to $100,000 or more. Certainly would be good commissions to make on sales like those, but really, how many ordinary people can afford to spend those sort of amounts, compared with people with lower spending power? Say when I drive into London, I see more people driving lower priced cars than I see driving Porsche's. (I have to admit I'm a bit of a spoiled girl, my Dad bought me a Porsche Carrera for Christmas a couple of years ago) Or say with wrist watch's, Most Guys wear a watch but I will rarely see a Guy wearing a Rolex watch.

        We don't have as many niche lists as you, you say you market to 96 lists where we have only 10, including Sherri's, but we are making around two million dollars profit per year from our lists, selling lower priced items to repeat buyers. One of our lists is large, with more than 100,000 people and does account for about 75% of that profit.

        I am familiar with split testing, we do it in other IM ventures with email Subject Lines and Copy etc, but have never done it with Affiliate Marketing. I guess you mean split test your way against ours but I know that would way lower our sales. Perhaps the difference here is that you are mainly marketing high priced items and we are marketing lower priced items?

        You say - "By promoting only one product at a time to our niche list subscribers, we are establishing foundations for long-term relationships and trust through a series of successful business transactions."

        K, we are doing this in a different way. We are also establishing same foundations and trust with our list subscribers by way of our Newsletters, in fact most likely on a much more personal level than you do. We include personal stories about ourselves and our staff in our Newsletters, so over the years our subscribers have got to know us on a very personal level. As an example here, We have a special Christmas Newsletter (nothing being sold in it, jus newsy Christmassy things) and we also send out an eChristmas Card that we design ourselves, both are sent to everyone on our mailing lists, and we get thousands of eChristmas Cards back from our Subscribers. I think that would be unusual for most Business's, for their customers to have such a personal involvement with a business that many send return Christmas Cards. Our subscribers come to know us and our staff personally, by our names and our photos. They have watched Sherri growing up in photos, they have seen photos of our pets, our cats sleeping on top of our computer monitors for example, jus little personal things in our Newsletters that make us more like Family than just another Business they deal with. Likewise to your comment, our customers are unlikely to buy from anyone else with products that we offer.

        Your comment - "But, are we really that much different in marketing approach? Our prospects get sent to a website where a million+ products are being sold. " Your right, we're not that much different, your likely to be just as passionate about your Business as we are, loving what you do the same as we do. We just have different approach's.

        It's just that, my way is better than yours! lol lol lol.

        Blessed Be

        Lindy
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

          Perhaps the difference here is that you are mainly marketing high priced items and we are marketing lower priced items?
          Not quite. We are mainly selling high priced items to highly targeted demographics, and Amazon's suggestion system adds multiple lower priced items on nearly every order for us. But, you'll get the last word.
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          • Profile picture of the author KBeamon
            LindyUK & Myob along with a host of others have given some sound advice in this thread. I appreciate all the knowledge you guys have shared here. LindyUK, just the other day I was thinking about a mega site/store like you are explaining here but had no idea how to execute it. I will re-read all your post in here so I can better understand how to do so. If you can direct me to a wso or provide me with more info on how to do so I would greatly appreciate it.


            In the meantime I will copy and paste all the great info into a word doc like you suggested to that gentleman.
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          • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            Not quite. We are mainly selling high priced items to highly targeted demographics, and Amazon's suggestion system adds multiple lower priced items on nearly every order for us. But, you'll get the last word.
            Yes of course I will myob! lol.

            I'll take you to a Superstore or Mall sometime an show you how the modern shopping experience works. An you can try and point out to me all these dazed shoppers who are so confused from all the choices offered to them.

            Oh, an you can buy the milkshakes, that's jus standard when you go shopping with a blonde! lol.

            Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author cowboyhaze
    I make about $4-500 a month pushing mostly items under $20, it takes several channels and a variety of tactics to get to where I am. I'd like to learn even more advanced techniques to get over $1k a month!
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    The problem with virtually ALL affiliate programs is the small commissions. I'm part of a program that was the FIRST to offer 100% commissions. That's the way to go!
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @Lindy; big big thank to you again!!!

    wow, amazing information stuff here, I speak from my own experience, had a company from 8 years ago, I start again from zero.

    Most people buy not so high price items and only a small fraction of people buying high priced items above $1000 that is not the mass, I think 80% buys lower priced items, 20% higher priced items, you see that same sometime in the B2B branch example in my branch 8 years ago terracotta import;

    terracotta from sienna is more elegant and much thicker ,frozen stabil more as the terracotta from asia, but what are the most B2B consumers buy? The italian sienna or asian terracotta?

    Notice: in this branche you must have good amount of capital , the cake is divided, you must have capital to sell on trade fair with a big standing showroom,with a small 40qm you have no chances.

    Look at silex, universal pottery (german entrepreneur) etc,etc...these are big boys.

    Lindy; I will not start from zero to build a "hobby" online income, I will build a real business !!!
    So when I read your last thread, to build such a large business,I need minimum 5000 subscribers,for each niche.............??

    I get these numbers fast only from facebook????

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      @Lindy; big big thank to you again!!!

      wow, amazing information stuff here, I speak from my own experience, had a company from 8 years ago, I start again from zero.

      Most people buy not so high price items and only a small fraction of people buying high priced items above $1000 that is not the mass, I think 80% buys lower priced items, 20% higher priced items, you see that same sometime in the B2B branch example in my branch 8 years ago terracotta import;

      terracotta from sienna is more elegant and much thicker ,frozen stabil more as the terracotta from asia, but what are the most B2B consumers buy? The italian sienna or asian terracotta?

      Notice: in this branche you must have good amount of capital , the cake is divided, you must have capital to sell on trade fair with a big standing showroom,with a small 40qm you have no chances.

      Look at silex, universal pottery (german entrepreneur) etc,etc...these are big boys.

      Lindy; I will not start from zero to build a "hobby" online income, I will build a real business !!!
      So when I read your last thread, to build such a large business,I need minimum 5000 subscribers,for each niche.............??

      I get these numbers fast only from facebook????

      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      You jus start building your lists, everyone starts from scratch, even us! One of our lists is way over 100,000 now but it started at 0, we just keep building it and have been doing for a few years.

      They say with IM that if your list is targeted and you are sending good or interesting content to keep them engaged and subscribed, and sending relevant Affiliate Offers to them, than your list is worth at least $1 per month for every Subscriber on it. I think that's a fairly good average, we may get jus a little bit more on some lists.

      Yes FaceBook is a really good way to build lists quickly, something you should start learning. But I havn't got time to teach you, I'm a busy girl, lol. But there is plenty of information in Warrior Forum and by Google Search's, or from WSO ebooks or courses put out by Warrior members. Look for Free information first in Warrior Forum threads or by Google Search.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Let's get some numbers going. First off, you need a high ticket item to make some money. Affiliate companies are in business to make money. They pay low commissions. Hard to make any money when you are selling a one dollar item from amazon. A good high ticket item is an expensive camera. Well, you will need to physically have the camera to do a review. Basically, you create a video and put it up on you tube to drive traffic to your web pages. In the video you have to describe the benefits of buying this camera. Please put videos of accessories. Most of these would be lenses, tripods, lighting equipment. OK so all of these are sold on amazon.

    4% conversion is the industry average. Also, 4% commission is amazon average. That means a $2,000 camera yields you $80 in commission. If you get 100 visitors per day, that is 4 sales or $320 in commissions. Not bad for posting some reviews.

    How do you get expensive cameras?

    Best option is to get a shutterbug friend to loan you one. Perhaps, you don't have any rich friends, but only enemies. Well, there is a camera rental place that loans cameras for the weekend and a $1000 camera costs $38 on average. That can get expensive.

    Driving to pick up a camera means a lot of gas. Perhaps you can use UPS or a similar service. Cost of shipping is expensive. Big lenses are heavy I tell you. Still, I can get a $2,000 camera with lenses for approx $100 from a rental company.

    Question for you. Do you like photography?

    It would not be a good niche unless you really like the area. For me it is hard to sell an item unless I have a passion. Then I have no trouble convincing consumers.
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by seobro View Post

      Let's get some numbers going. First off, you need a high ticket item to make some money. Affiliate companies are in business to make money. They pay low commissions. Hard to make any money when you are selling a one dollar item from amazon. A good high ticket item is an expensive camera. Well, you will need to physically have the camera to do a review. Basically, you create a video and put it up on you tube to drive traffic to your web pages. In the video you have to describe the benefits of buying this camera. Please put videos of accessories. Most of these would be lenses, tripods, lighting equipment. OK so all of these are sold on amazon.

      4% conversion is the industry average. Also, 4% commission is amazon average. That means a $2,000 camera yields you $80 in commission. If you get 100 visitors per day, that is 4 sales or $320 in commissions. Not bad for posting some reviews.

      How do you get expensive cameras?

      Best option is to get a shutterbug friend to loan you one. Perhaps, you don't have any rich friends, but only enemies. Well, there is a camera rental place that loans cameras for the weekend and a $1000 camera costs $38 on average. That can get expensive.

      Driving to pick up a camera means a lot of gas. Perhaps you can use UPS or a similar service. Cost of shipping is expensive. Big lenses are heavy I tell you. Still, I can get a $2,000 camera with lenses for approx $100 from a rental company.

      Question for you. Do you like photography?

      It would not be a good niche unless you really like the area. For me it is hard to sell an item unless I have a passion. Then I have no trouble convincing consumers.
      Hello seobro,

      I love photography, has been a hobby and passion for me since I was a teen in school.

      But you don't need to hire a camera to write a review on it. You would have to be an experienced photographer anyway to do that. You just search with Google to find information to write reviews.

      It's like, if I were selling a course to Guys on How To Date Girls, I wouldn't have to date girls to get information to write my review! I might get into trouble that way since I'm a girl myself. lol

      Sure the reviews idea works but you are competing with hundreds to thousands of other Affiliates who are doing exactly the same thing. We like doing things different, though I realise our ways maybe need a bit more learning and experience.

      If I was going to promote photography items I might first start building a Community interested in Photography, so I can market to them.

      Then I now have my very own Pond filled with fish. I am not jus fishing in the wide open sea along with everyone else.

      Jus to show how we think - food for thought!

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author marco005
        Hi,

        Linda, you are genius!


        best wishes
        marco005
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

          Hi,

          Linda, you are genius!


          best wishes
          marco005
          Geez marco, you have to remember I'm a Blonde! We are not known to be genius's! lol.

          Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author davigol
    Hi ,

    I once wrote here how I got way more then $1K a month from blog commets , however got kicked from this blog ...
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Lindy I know, loool, ok blonde women are nice in my eyes no dumb.

    I think I must spend facebook ads to get monthly a good storm of traffic and subscribers?

    How good must the content on fb be? Is it enough to post 2 times a week a 300-400 word
    article for $4 ???

    Now I learn about the fb traffic and lead capture method.......

    Does anyone here has experience with squidoo and amazon? Build 1 huge squid lens and write about 1 good amazon product? Many says squidoo works well with amazon.....

    Or: does squidoo works better than facebook to get subscribers?

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Does anyone here has experience with squidoo and amazon? Build 1 huge squid lens and write about 1 good amazon product? Many says squidoo works well with amazon.....

      Or: does squidoo works better than facebook to get subscribers?

      best wishes
      marco005
      You might want to look at Sara Young's Easy Paycheck Formula 2. She specializes in Squidoo and says that it's still a good option.
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      Lindy I know, loool, ok blonde women are nice in my eyes no dumb.

      I think I must spend facebook ads to get monthly a good storm of traffic and subscribers?

      How good must the content on fb be? Is it enough to post 2 times a week a 300-400 word
      article for $4 ???

      Now I learn about the fb traffic and lead capture method.......

      Does anyone here has experience with squidoo and amazon? Build 1 huge squid lens and write about 1 good amazon product? Many says squidoo works well with amazon.....

      Or: does squidoo works better than facebook to get subscribers?

      best wishes
      marco005
      If we want to be successful with our Internet Business's, we have to think of them as REAL Business's, the same way as any High Street/Main Street/Brick & Mortar Business does. We can actually copy a lot of what they do, but we have the advantage that we have even more promotional resources available to us. We have many ways of promoting our Business's for free, plus other ways where we may have to invest some money for our promotions.

      So, if we look at a successful Brick & Mortar Business, they might be advertising in local newspapers, advertising on radio, advertising on TV, advertising in all sorts of ways.

      So we do that too, we use as many ways as we can to start funnelling leads for our List Building (or our Direct Selling for those working that way)
      We don't jus use say Squidoo - we use Squidoo Plus Plus Plus as many other ways as we possibly can.

      Now you can start with free methods like Squidoo, BUT remember, we are building a REAL Business and we do have to invest some money into building and running our Business's.

      I'v already mentioned FaceBook as being one of the best ways to build targeted Lists. You can start for free of course, setting up your Fan Pages and attracting people to them by normal FB marketing methods, but I'll show you a better way to do this if you are able to put some investment into your marketing. I'm assuming that you have spent time already learning the basics of marketing and FB marketing, and that you already have everything else set up.

      So marco, you said: "I think I must spend facebook ads to get monthly a good storm of traffic and subscribers?"

      Yes, the reason FB is so great is that you have over a Billion people in one place that you can potentially market to or add to your lists, and you can highly target them by their interests, gender, age etc.

      So yes you can buy FB Ads to try to attract people to your offers or lists.

      But there is an even better way of targeting your FB Ads if you can afford to invest in your Business and buy a software called Social Lead Freak.

      We can jus about say that for any niche we choose there would already be FB Groups for them, often many and often with large numbers. Do some search's yourself and see.

      Now SLF allows us to find all these common Groups, then extract the FB ID's of all their Members. Then we can buy our FB Ads but have FB serve our Ads to ONLY these members, who we know are ALREADY interested in what we are offering.

      So again, if my niche was Photography, I can target jus people who I know are interested in Photography, because they belong to FB Groups relating to Photography.

      The rest is up to how well you have set up your mousetrap to lure them to you, for them to want to be involved with you, to want to become fans of your FB page, and to join your list for your Newsletter and offerings etc. The more you can involve them, the more engaged they will be with you.

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author Wickaman
        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post


        Now SLF allows us to find all these common Groups, then extract the FB ID's of all their Members. Then we can buy our FB Ads but have FB serve our Ads to ONLY these members, who we know are ALREADY interested in what we are offering.

        Lindy
        So is your ad promoting a product/offer or are you using FB ads to build a list? Seems like with SLF you kind of instantly get a list of sorts. As long as people keep using Facebook they will see your offers. That leads me to my next question. How is the CPC on those super targeted ads? I used FB ads to promote a FB page for likes and it cost me about .20 cents per click. A bit more than I hoped to spend (I'm a penny pincher). Being able to laser target with IDs seems like a huge advantage and may justify the cost.

        I'm starting to build my lists now that I have some websites ready, any tips or advice you can give based on personal experience? Paid or free methods. Websites have already made money and I'm looking to reinvest it in the business. I think that is the key for amazon or any type of affiliates.
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by Wickaman View Post

          So is your ad promoting a product/offer or are you using FB ads to build a list? Seems like with SLF you kind of instantly get a list of sorts. As long as people keep using Facebook they will see your offers. That leads me to my next question. How is the CPC on those super targeted ads? I used FB ads to promote a FB page for likes and it cost me about .20 cents per click. A bit more than I hoped to spend (I'm a penny pincher). Being able to laser target with IDs seems like a huge advantage and may justify the cost.

          I'm starting to build my lists now that I have some websites ready, any tips or advice you can give based on personal experience? Paid or free methods. Websites have already made money and I'm looking to reinvest it in the business. I think that is the key for amazon or any type of affiliates.
          Hello Wickaman

          We are using FB to build our lists, not to directly promote a product.

          Because you are now extremely laser targeting your FB ads you will get a higher click ratio so cost per click will come down.

          You consider cost of acquiring customers in relation to life time value of those customers. So really if you are building targeted niche lists and have the infrastructure set up to retain and market to your list over the long term, even your .20cents to acquire that customer to your list is a good investment. Not so though if you were only promoting single offers.

          Tips or Advice: read all my posts in this thread, I'v given lots of personal advice of how we do Affiliate Marketing. Also read posts from Alexa and Myob, who do Affiliate Marketing in a different way. Copy all those posts to a Word Doc and build up your own reference source, add any other good advice you find to your Affiliate Marketing Database.

          Re your statement "Websites have already made money and I'm looking to reinvest it in the business. I think that is the key for amazon or any type of affiliates"

          Reinvesting in your Business is the KEY to growing ANY Business, Online or Offline. And so is investing in yourself by way of continued Learning.

          With our Online Business's we have to treat them as being REAL Business's, if you treat your Business as a hobby it will pay you like a hobby - ie pay you nothing jus cost you money.

          Lindy
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    • Profile picture of the author Satdin
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      Lindy I know, loool, ok blonde women are nice in my eyes no dumb.

      I think I must spend facebook ads to get monthly a good storm of traffic and subscribers?

      How good must the content on fb be? Is it enough to post 2 times a week a 300-400 word
      article for $4 ???

      Now I learn about the fb traffic and lead capture method.......

      Does anyone here has experience with squidoo and amazon? Build 1 huge squid lens and write about 1 good amazon product? Many says squidoo works well with amazon.....

      Or: does squidoo works better than facebook to get subscribers?

      best wishes
      marco005
      Hi Marco,

      I had more than 1000 lenses on squidoo and earning were 5 figure every month. But due to squidoo's craziness me and other thousands of lensmaker lost their lenses. Squidoo deleted more than 100k lenses. So better work with your own sites than on other's.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    can I use a pen name when I open a facebook account or multiples when I have multilpe niches?

    I not want have my name on 5 different niches on fb, that not looks famous for an affiliate.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wow! Lindy you are great!

    Lindy, do you capture leads on your fb fanpage or does with the software your leads go to your own hosted website?

    PS: I like the movie actor Simon Pegg, he looks a little bit like my nephew hehehe, England, England...
    yupp, great britain is great.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author elijahdean24
    Screen shots of income are very tricky because they can be created, I think people sell the methods after they do not work anymore.
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by elijahdean24 View Post

      Screen shots of income are very tricky because they can be created, I think people sell the methods after they do not work anymore.
      Hello elijahdean,

      Not sure what you are referring too re the screenshots of income, are you meaning from Social Lead Freak, or just Software Sales Pages in general?

      I'm sure some are not real as you say, but I am recommending Social Lead Freak because we use it ourselves and know it works.

      We use it for list building for Affiliate Marketing as well as in General IM and also for our main Companies involved with Offline Business's.

      We started our IM Business's with Affiliate Marketing, but it's now actually one of the smallest segments of our IM Busines's, but as I'v stated in other posts in this thread, we make around two million dollars profit per annum from jus Affiliate Marketing.

      So I think people can trust what I recommend, I'm not selling anything jus showing how we approach Affiliate Marketing in a different way to most others. An I don't show screenshots of our figures, people can believe or not, that's up to them. I'v jus stated our figures to show that yes you can make over 1000 per month from Amazon - the title of this thread.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    facebook questions;

    How I get facebook opt in's to promote my own website?
    Does these facebook subscribers are my clients in aweber account?

    Must I build a fanpage and must first write 3-4 post on them before buy fb ads?

    And then put a big opt in field in there?
    And after then buy fb ads, target as possible .

    And after then?
    Must I write post 3-4 times a week on my fanpage?

    I look for a guide for that.


    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    Just thought I'd chime in to say how much I am really enjoying this thread and especially Myob and Lindys excellent information. I do fairly well out of Amazon with review sites but but utilizing list building and Facebook will be the next steps in my business strategy.
    I've had some great aha moments in this thread and once again guys thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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    • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
      Originally Posted by Stevie C View Post

      Just thought I'd chime in to say how much I am really enjoying this thread and especially Myob and Lindys excellent information. I do fairly well out of Amazon with review sites but but utilizing list building and Facebook will be the next steps in my business strategy.
      I've had some great aha moments in this thread and once again guys thanks for sharing your knowledge.
      I'm also in the process of trying to implement list building into my amz review sites. It seems a bit tricky for our style of site do you have any ideas?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by larimorebf View Post

      It did not occur to me to search for the really high priced expensive items.
      My company regularly sells Amazon products well into the 5 figure price range. As far as I know, all affiliates who achieve this level of sales begin by first building trust and consistently engaging customers on a personal basis through some kind of an integrated communication system, including email and often extending into offline contact.

      In addition to what was discussed beginning early on in this thread, this reference may provide some advanced marketing ideas: Anybody promote Amazon products that cost $10k+?.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Sojourn's wso is that flip the world?
    This is listbuilding with an free blogger (blogspot) and implemente this in facebook, I wonder
    that this works for business people, business people have their own website/squeeze page /opt in page.

    ???

    vest wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Lindy, this is huge content a 4 page newsletter.

    Do you use simple email format or html format for the newsletter?

    In newsletter is it best to promote affiliate products at the end of the content?

    I think the most make not so long newsletter, most will be 400-600 words long.

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      Lindy, this is huge content a 4 page newsletter.

      Do you use simple email format or html format for the newsletter?

      In newsletter is it best to promote affiliate products at the end of the content?

      I think the most make not so long newsletter, most will be 400-600 words long.

      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      No, a 4 page Newsletter isn't huge content at all.

      Remember I told you that you have to Think. So think if you were a Guy who's interest was motor bikes or motor cycles.

      So you want to buy a Magazine about motor bikes, would you prefer to buy one with 2 pages or with 200 pages? Of course you would buy the one with 200 pages because this is your interest and you want to read and learn as much as you can about motor bikes.

      So our Newsletters have to engage and retain our List Members. (meaning keep our mailing list members interested and wanting to read our next Newsletter - so they want to stay on our Lists)

      Questions 2 & 3 I have previously answered

      Re "I think the most make not so long newsletter, most will be 400-600 words long"

      400 to 600 words would be more like a single article.

      Perhaps you are not understanding what our idea of a Newsletter is. It is a collection of interesting content (short articles) sprinkled with our Ads for Affiliate products.

      I'v already given this example too, but I'll jus elaborate on it. Sherri finds interesting content (articles) that she can use for her Newsletter, often jus from the Internet or MSN. One recent article was about Eric Clapton Guitars selling at Auction for high prices.

      You can do a Google search for: "guitars sell at high auction price" to see that article and similar articles that have run on MSN.

      So that original article is about 400 words. She may have rewrote or spinned it, or pinched it as is, but whatever, it's an article that would interest musicians and bands, but then gives her an opportunity to follow that article with a related Ad for her Guitar Shop. She followed the Eric Clapton article with a Headline something like: You May Not Be Able To Afford A Classic Eric Clapton Guitar But We Have Over 20,000 Guitars at (her Website Ad/link)

      So the Newsletter is a collection of short Articles of interest to her Subscribers/Readers plus a number of Affiliate Ads sprinkled through the Newsletter.

      Think of it as like a mini Magazine, Magazines have articles that attract the Reader to the Magazine in the first place, then they serve up Ads that those Readers may be interested in.

      Single articles are fine for website content, blog or FB posts, article site promotion etc., but not enough for an interesting Newsletter that your Subscribers will want to keep reading issue after issue. You need interesting content and variety of content, they may have already found and read some of your content elsewhere, but if you have a variety of content they should find sufficient interest to want to read what you have in your next issue and so on.

      Do you understand it explained that way?

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Jus to expand on my post above re Newsletter content.

        Where can we get content from? Answer is everywhere!

        If say my niche was for Internet Marketing - I could most lkely find enough interesting content to re-spin jus from signing up to a number of other high profile Internet Marketers Newsletters. I might also use the Warrior Forum, see what questions people are asking and use those in my Newsletter - providing answers - again I could even use good answers provided in WF as basis for my own answer content. I could use content from Google search's on IM subjects etc.

        If my niche was the Pet Niche - well I often read and watch beautiful or funny stories video's about pets and animals. I'm sure other Pet and Animal lovers would like these too, so I could use these as some content, and supply links to the videos.

        If we find any good content or articles on a subject we are interested in, we will copy them into a Word Doc for that subject - we are building up our own content database for that subject for possible future use.

        In any Niche I was promoting, I wouldn't restrict myself to jus Online content that I could find either. Are there print Magazines available for that topic? OK, so I could pinch content from them and re-spin it, or be getting ideas for content from their articles.


        You have to think outside the square, don't restrict yourself to being in a very small box with the way you think.

        Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Thanks again Lindy, that's genius! I have learned more again.....
    It is new for me I never had hearing that a long newsletter full with articles is much better than with 1 5oo words articles,so people many do.

    Wow amazing, you are genius Lindy!


    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    is pinterest a good traffic stream to build a huge list fast?


    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author createyouwealth
    The key with amazon is to promote high ticket items. Mainly because the commission percentage is very low with amazon. That's why there are not many amazon affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidmcsweeney
    It is completely possible to make $1,000 a month (and the rest) from amazon, but it takes a lot of hard work, commitment, research and (perhaps) a little luck!

    I wrote up quite a detailed tutorial (it's 4,500 words...) on my blog a month or so back, which went through launching a new affiliate site (predominately monetised through amazon) and getting the traffic and revenue up in a 6 month period from $0 to just under $4,000. Amazon revenue in month 6 was $2,854.

    To summarise, you need to find: -

    1) A popular product with a price point that is not too high and not too low (£100 is my sweet spot)
    2) It shouldn't be over saturated in the affiliate space (we'd all love to promote kindles, but it's going to be a nightmare to rank)
    3) Ideally the product should be available from a number of retailers (i.e. outside amazon) as it's never a good idea to put all your eggs into one basket

    Then you need to...

    Really offer value. I mean really.

    Write *the best* *most detailed* reviews on the internet for the product(s), write up how to guides, tutorials - make your site *the authority* on the product.

    Offering price comparison is a good idea too.

    And then you need...

    Some links. Not tens of thousands, not millions, just some decent quality ones from related sites in your niche. Securing some high quality guest posts is probably the best tactic here and outreach for your well written, truly valuable non commercial content.

    You're not going to be able to do it with any automated tools, by scraping other sites, or spinning articles, but if you can find the right product(s) and are willing to put the hard work and time in (I spent 234 hours working on my site over the 6 month period) you can absolutely make great money with amazon!

    Hopefully the above helps... if you want to read my full blog post on how I grew my amazon site, there's a link in my sig on my profile.
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  • Profile picture of the author EllenMoore
    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    I have been an Amazon Affiliate for about 3 years. I do research and read up on how to generate income from being an Amazon Affiliate. I see reports and screen shots people provide that shows the large amount of $$ they make each month. I have been researching a lot lately on how others make a living on the income generated from Amazon.

    Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts? To generate the type of income I see other Amazon affiliates say they make would be great.

    But I do wonder if what I see is true. I do make some Amazon affiliate income but not nearly enough. I would be extremely happy to just generate 500 a month from being an Amazon Affiliate.

    So do other Amazon affiliates REALLY make 1000's of dollars a month from Amazon?
    I have a client, Amazon affiliate, with sites dedicated to toys, home appliances (vaccuums and coffee makers, to be more precise), and Amazon best selling electronics. He orders content of over $1000 every month, so I am sure he makes a lot more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
    The biggest problem with Amazon is getting good traffic and getting it for free - at least in my opinion. This of course is virtually impossible unless you get super creative, but once you've cracked the code you can make a ton with Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    does amazon has cut the affiliate commissions to $10 per sale for most products not only electronics?

    I have heard this from some amazon europe affiliates , so when you sell 50 products on your site (example) each with $300, so you not get around 5% comission from $15000, you only get $10 per sale=

    50 salesx$10 = $500 comission payout and not $750 (5% from $15000)

    Is that through?


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexRich
      Hi marco005,

      the amazon program in Europe is different - to the USA. Just have a look at the Amazon site and compare.
      In Europe you get a max. of 10 EUR or 7 GBP for every item. There are some exceptions (MP3-products, Javari..)

      Europe: You start with a 5% commission for 1-20 products...21-50 products = 5,5%...10000-30000 products = 8% and 30001 = 9%

      America: 631 - 1570 sales = 8%

      I've just started with Amazon two month ago and it is frustating to see just 10 EUR in commission instead of 20 EUR. But it is still fun and I am on a learning curve.

      I would have earned more in commission with the US program, but I guess it is another competition as well.

      You should also read the Agreement and License you'll sign. After applying myself, I often wonder, why I don't see correct price details or info tags e.g. on other affiliate sites.

      best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author SoEasyMoney
    Lindy-your posts and this thread has my head spinning. You have given away more value here than most of the WSOs that I have bought this year :-)

    I have a few questions, if you would be so kind just to share a few more nuggets.

    You consider your Amazon stores as "malls". I'm just curious how your "malls" are set up. Are they set up as wordpress sites and you just use Amazon stores inside, or are you using some other software to build your sites?

    I'm assuming that you really don't concentrate on SEO or natural search engine traffic to get visitors to your sites? You use the power of Facebook to drive the traffic?

    And I"m assuming that you have a "freebie" to give away to get your visitors to sign up for your list?

    One last question and I promise I'll stop. When you do your newsletters do you do them almost like a traditional newsletter and then just publish them as a PDF?

    Again, thanks for sharing your knowlege with us!
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  • Profile picture of the author NellyColby
    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    I have been an Amazon Affiliate for about 3 years. I do research and read up on how to generate income from being an Amazon Affiliate. I see reports and screen shots people provide that shows the large amount of $$ they make each month. I have been researching a lot lately on how others make a living on the income generated from Amazon.

    Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts? To generate the type of income I see other Amazon affiliates say they make would be great.

    But I do wonder if what I see is true. I do make some Amazon affiliate income but not nearly enough. I would be extremely happy to just generate 500 a month from being an Amazon Affiliate.

    So do other Amazon affiliates REALLY make 1000's of dollars a month from Amazon?
    Hi, I don't trust their statements. It is possible that some of them are true, but I don't think that anyone could make a living from being an Amazon affiliate. To sell so many products you have to own a website with a very high ranking, and this requires a lot of work, knowledge and money.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by NellyColby View Post

      Hi, I don't trust their statements. It is possible that some of them are true, but I don't think that anyone could make a living from being an Amazon affiliate. To sell so many products you have to own a website with a very high ranking, and this requires a lot of work, knowledge and money.
      Not true. I am just one of several people making a full time income from Amazon, others would likely include Erica Stone, Gaz Cooper, Jan Roos and many, many more who don't even visit this forum. Amazon have paid billions of dollars to their affiliates.

      You certainly don't need a very high ranking, unless you're doing the Amazon Review site model, even then you'd be surprised at how many items on bestseller lists are easy to rank for.

      Work and knowledge is a prerequisite for success in any business, and you can start up with less than a hundred dollars.

      Quick tip: it's just as easy to sell someone a high price item as it is a low price item, as the person's want for the product aleady exists.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by NellyColby View Post

      I don't think that anyone could make a living from being an Amazon affiliate.
      I know people who do.

      Most of my own income comes from ClickBank, because I'd been doing that for over 3 years before I added Amazon to what I do, but even my Amazon income - having been doing it for less than 2 years - would be a "living" to some people.

      Originally Posted by NellyColby View Post

      To sell so many products you have to own a website with a very high ranking
      No ... sorry to appear so argumentative, Nelly, but this is really completely wrong.

      You're presupposing that all successful Amazon affiliates are using Google as a traffic source - and many aren't at all.

      I'd be happy to agree with you that probably not very many people depending only on SEO for their traffic will be making a full-time living from it! But there are countless other traffic sources, apart from SEO.

      If Google de-indexed all my websites tomorrow, I don't think it would reduce my total monthly Amazon income by more than 1% or 2%.
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      • Profile picture of the author thedog
        There's plenty of people making $1,000+ a month on Amazon, and remember, Amazon is quite seasonal, so, let's say someone's earned $12,000 from Amazon for the year, chances are, they're going to make most of that from now til Christmas.

        Of course, if they're promoting a summer item, it'll be the opposite.

        Get your product and keyword selection right from the get go.

        Very high ticket items are tempting to promote, but just make sure people are buying them... a quick look at the review time stamps will tell you this.

        Make sure your reviews are quality, and have a video review above the fold.

        Personally, I think Amazon's trust factor out weighs their low commissions and crap cookie length.

        Also, keep an eye on Amazon's promotions, sometimes there's good deals that are related to your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicole Sakoman
    Originally Posted by Gsdlady View Post

    I have been an Amazon Affiliate for about 3 years. I do research and read up on how to generate income from being an Amazon Affiliate. I see reports and screen shots people provide that shows the large amount of $$ they make each month. I have been researching a lot lately on how others make a living on the income generated from Amazon.

    Are the screen shots for real or are the numbers fudged into larger amounts? To generate the type of income I see other Amazon affiliates say they make would be great.

    But I do wonder if what I see is true. I do make some Amazon affiliate income but not nearly enough. I would be extremely happy to just generate 500 a month from being an Amazon Affiliate.

    So do other Amazon affiliates REALLY make 1000's of dollars a month from Amazon?
    Many does truly make 1000's of $$ monthly, weekly, some (very rarely) even daily...

    However... most people you see PayPal "proofs" are crappy proofs, trying to hunt someone and turn him to buyer

    But, as I said... there are many people living like kings from Amazon.

    Hope it helps...
    Nicole
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    • Profile picture of the author ravenx
      LindyUK. Can you tell us how your landing page generally looks. How does the capture page convey that you will be sending these people amazon links and prep them to purchase through them?
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Originally Posted by ravenx View Post

        LindyUK. Can you tell us how your landing page generally looks. How does the capture page convey that you will be sending these people amazon links and prep them to purchase through them?
        Hello ravenx,

        It doesn't tell them we will be sending them links or prep them to purchase from us. I'v never seen a landing or squeeze page that does that.

        It tells them what we are giving them, about our Music Newsletter in my examples, gives them reasons why they should get our free Newsletter.

        It's graphical, very Muso so attracts their attention fast. I'v read where people say the new thing in squeeze or landing pages is like Web 2.0 or Wordpress style, really plain. So do those people like Magazines without pictures? Example: If you were selling anything to do with Harley Davidson motor bikes do you think having a nice picture of a Harley Davidson bike on your pages might just get attention. yesss.

        The Newsletters are the key to our way of selling, the links are scattered through the articles, sometimes we can relate the article to the Ad, but they don't look out of place. You read a Magazine an you expect to read Ads too.

        Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author bar0n
    I've been trying with amazon without a lot of success. Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I give up. Adsense is my favourite
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Jones
    It's not easy to make 1k/month, but it is possible. I've been an Amazon Affiliate for almost 2 years and make ~750/month. I could probably push it over 1k if I put in a lot more work, but there are easier ways to make money .
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @satdin; you have 1000 lenses to make 5 figure in month, so is that no possible to make $300-500 every month wih only 1 big squidoo lens and amazon products. like Seargent Logan method as example?


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      is that no possible to make $300-500 every month wih only 1 big squidoo lens and amazon products.
      Hi Marco - Squidoo is not a sensible way to try to sell Amazon products. They, not you, own the lenses. You're not in control. It isn't really your business. Even some of the people who used to promote Squidoo-related WSO's here a year ago are now openly advising people to use their own sites instead. You can see why here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8109462

      Squidoo also gives its lens-creators only 50% of the commissions they make from Amazon sales. If you sell Amazon products yourself, as an independent affiliate, you can get your commission-level up from 4% to 8.5%. If you do it through Squidoo (who - by their own admission - have deleted over 100,000 lenses over the last year!), and use their Amazon links rather than yours, you can't: half of Squidoo's 8.5% is the most you'll get. It's not even worth talking about. :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Hi Marco - Squidoo is not a sensible way to try to sell Amazon products. They, not you, own the lenses. You're not in control. It isn't really your business. Even some of the people who used to promote Squidoo-related WSO's here a year ago are now openly advising people to use their own sites instead. You can see why here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8109462

        Squidoo also gives its lens-creators only 50% of the commissions they make from Amazon sales. If you sell Amazon products yourself, as an independent affiliate, you can get your commission-level up from 4% to 8.5%. If you do it through Squidoo (who - by their own admission - have deleted over 100,000 lenses over the last year!), you can't. It's not even worth talking about. :p
        This ^

        I actually had a WSO on how to make money with Squidoo and Amazon - it works, yes BUT you should always aim to own your own content.

        I have had many lenses deleted for spamming and honestly the content was unique but they were in an effort to sell Amazon products.

        You CAN still use them but you will need to invest A LOT of time on making the content absolutely amazing and then you have no real guarantee that they will not lock your lens.

        If they do you can still download the content but it is best to build your own sites from the outset.

        Once you have a product that is bringing in sales from Amazon if you own the site and the content you can sell it too for a lump sum.

        Simple Version: Always own your own content and build your OWN network of sites.

        Chris
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      • Profile picture of the author thedog
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Hi Marco - Squidoo is not a sensible way to try to sell Amazon products. They, not you, own the lenses. You're not in control. It isn't really your business. Even some of the people who used to promote Squidoo-related WSO's here a year ago are now openly advising people to use their own sites instead. You can see why here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8109462

        Squidoo also gives its lens-creators only 50% of the commissions they make from Amazon sales. If you sell Amazon products yourself, as an independent affiliate, you can get your commission-level up from 4% to 8.5%. If you do it through Squidoo (who - by their own admission - have deleted over 100,000 lenses over the last year!), you can't: half of Squidoo's 8.5% is the most you'll get. It's not even worth talking about. :p
        Good point, but I wouldn't knock them completely.

        Web 2.0's are still good for backlinks, so, always send your web 2.0 traffic back to your main affiliate website.

        I had no idea it was 100,000, I imagine they were mostly garbage lenses.

        Or were they just light on content?
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        • Profile picture of the author DianneH
          Hey everyone,

          This is a great thread and I have read through a lot of the posts but do not know if someone asked this question somewhere along the way.

          Does anyone know how you become a member of the warrior book club?

          I am already a war room member. In other words, how do I get access?

          Thanks,

          Dianne
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by thedog View Post

          Web 2.0's are still good for backlinks
          All Squidoo's external backlinks have been no-follow since early this year. And these days, they won't tolerate people "using them for backlinks", because they see that as part of the cause of their latest round of dramatic Google problems which cost them so much of their income. Hence the enormous number of lens-removals. There will always be problems like that with Web 2.0 sites.

          Originally Posted by thedog View Post

          always send your web 2.0 traffic back to your main affiliate website.
          I know it defies all common sense and reason, but some people are imagining that this is a viable way of having an affiliate marketing business without having their own "main affiliate website"! :p

          Originally Posted by thedog View Post

          I imagine they were mostly garbage lenses.
          Not at all ... some of them were excellent lenses. Some of the very few that I visited regularly (because they were updated regularly) disappeared, apparently entirely arbitrarily. Some of the conversations on Squidoo's own forum, earlier this year, were absolutely astonishing (the "choicest" threads were quickly deleted, needless to say! :p ).
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  • Profile picture of the author ParkerFar
    Have you considered Kindle publishing? I know it's not exactly what you are looking for but it is directly related. The KDP program is becoming very robust and it is a fairly simple way to make money. It's also crazy inexpensive if you can write yourself and you know basic graphic design. I have even outsourced some writing and had success. Although this isn't my primary business you may find it a valuable revenue source for you. I know you can hit 1000 a month if you put in the effort. I did it in about 2 months. Good luck Warrior!
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by ParkerFar View Post

      I know you can hit 1000 a month if you put in the effort. I did it in about 2 months. Good luck Warrior!
      That's really good, well done.

      As someone who hasn't reached your lofty heights on Kindle, I and others would be very interested in how you researched the book you were going to write, wrote the book, promoted the book and got it to the sales level of $1000 a month mark, in just 2 months.

      That's very good indeed from a standing start, seeing as you recommend it as an easy alternative I think people, especially me, would be enormously grateful if you could tell us some more information.

      You'll certainly get a flood of thanks. I look forward to your response.

      Originally Posted by DianneH View Post

      Hey everyone,

      This is a great thread and I have read through a lot of the posts but do not know if someone asked this question somewhere along the way.

      Does anyone know how you become a member of the warrior book club?

      I am already a war room member. In other words, how do I get access?

      Thanks,

      Dianne
      Hi Dianne,

      I believe you just visit the sub-forum and join. I think it costs but all the information is in the sub-forum
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  • Profile picture of the author IvailoHubchev
    Of course! It is possible to earn even $10 000/month, but it requires two things:
    1. You must have the right strategy and the right coach. Someone who already earns good amount of money and know what is he doing.
    2. You must Take Action!

    You can't make money with these $7 courses and with these plugins that make your site from scratch in 30 seconds, simply because google see that there are many of these sites, used by thousands of people and they all look the same and don't have any useful information and what Google does is it simply remove them from their rankings. Hope it makes sense to all, because this is the true!
    My suggestion is to go out there and find amazon affiliates who offer one on one coaching and to take their coaching. Even if it's $1000 take it it's worth it. But first look if there are any success stories and is he trustworthy.
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  • Profile picture of the author saulyd
    Wow! There's an hour and half I did plan for! Great thread, thank you all for the great information!
    Lindy- You got my light bulbs popping! I too have similar questions as post #159 above... look forward to your insight!

    Thanks again all!
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by saulyd View Post

      Wow! There's an hour and half I did plan for! Great thread, thank you all for the great information!
      Lindy- You got my light bulbs popping! I too have similar questions as post #159 above... look forward to your insight!

      Thanks again all!
      Hello saulyd,

      Her questions were:

      You consider your Amazon stores as "malls". I'm just curious how your "malls" are set up. Are they set up as wordpress sites and you just use Amazon stores inside, or are you using some other software to build your sites?

      ANSWER - Yes we are actually making a Front End Website and we put the links to our Amazon Store or Stores, Plus Links to other Affiliate Stores or Offers and Clickbank links within our "Mall" or "Superstore". So this allows us to not jus be promoting an Amazon Store, we can find other Affiliate or Clickbank offers that are related to that niche and promote them altogether this way, by jus sending people to one place.

      We prefer HTML Websites but you can maybe also do this in Wordpress, we don't like or use it so I am not familiar with it. You can get a free version of the website building software that we use from an English company called Serif.com. Just go to Free Downloads and you will see WebPlus Starter Edition, which is fairly full featured, easy to learn an use.


      I'm assuming that you really don't concentrate on SEO or natural search engine traffic to get visitors to your sites? You use the power of Facebook to drive the traffic?

      ANSWER - Yes we don't bother trying to rank these websites at all or get Search Engine Traffic. (but you could also do this) We prefer building up our own targeted niche lists, that way we have our own pond to fish in rather than competing with other fishermen in the wide open seas of the internet.

      And I"m assuming that you have a "freebie" to give away to get your visitors to sign up for your list?

      ANSWER - Yes, in this case as examples I have given for Sherri's Music niche, the freebie is actually the free Newsletter that they are signing up to get.

      One last question and I promise I'll stop. When you do your newsletters do you do them almost like a traditional newsletter and then just publish them as a PDF?

      ANSWER - We do them bit like a mini magazine, attractive design, interesting content, photos, and our Ads. (I have given more information about them in other posts) Nothing worse I think than jus a text based Newsletter, it's so boring. So you think what people like if they buy a Magazine, a variety of interesting articles and photos as well as Ads for things they are interested in. Example a motor bike magazine has all those things, people actually like the Ads because they are targeted to their interest.

      Yes you make up your Newsletter in Word and save it as a PDF. Your links from Ads within it can be live and the PDF is easy to send to your mailing list.

      We are also experimenting with software that can deliver our Newsletters and any other content right to our Subscribers Computer DeskTops. they jus have to download a small program to do this, and this eliminates our Newsletters being lost in their mailbox's. When we send out any content it will flash a notification on their Desktop to alert them.

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author Midnight Oil
        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        Yes we are actually making a Front End Website and we put the links to our Amazon Store or Stores
        Lindy, just to clarify: are your store pages actually Amazon's aStores embedded on your site? Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by Midnight Oil View Post

          Lindy, just to clarify: are your store pages actually Amazon's aStores embedded on your site? Thanks.
          Hello Midnight Oil,

          Your name is actually the name of a famous Australian Band from the 70's an 80's.

          Yes our Stores are actually Amazon Stores for our Niche/s, jus with the link to each in our Website. So like links that when clicked will open each particular store. So we have a menue of links at the top of the Website like:

          Guitars Keyboards Recording Equipment etc.

          With our Music Niche Amazon actually has 6 different stores we could add, then we found another non Amazon Store as well that really suited the same market so added it too, plus a ClickBank product about ways for Singers an Bands to promote themselves, so all these 8 different lnks make up the main menue bar of our Website.

          We set them to open in a new window so that our Website (SuperStore) remains open too. That way if they finish shopping in say Guitar Store an close it, our Website is still open, they may say decide to have a look in Recording equipment Shop too.

          Some niche's may not have multiple Amazon stores available, but you can always find other Affiliate Programs or Clickbank offers to make up your SuperStore Website.

          Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    alexa, I know I know.....I would use squidoo and my own amazon affiliate links, only for a to start, short term business to make money from,later then I let squidoo go and invest this money to build my own sites/list building.

    It's only for to start with it not more, to begin to make money not more, so my theory.
    Build 1 big lense with great content, than make money within, then re invest this money in my own site.....when the money begins roll,I let fall squidoo,simple.

    And yes on the other site, there is a risk that squidoo will let me fall...burt with great content squidoo will not kick you out fast and with my own amazon affiliate links ,they can not catch my commissions.

    Be careful is better than night shift ( forbearance) like Al Bundy says.....hahaha (joke please)

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author Loree Evans
    Do you see anyone by name? Contact them by email and ask them to mentor you on making the amount you want. If they are making that amount or more they will be willing to show you how to do it too.
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by Loree Evans View Post

      Do you see anyone by name? Contact them by email and ask them to mentor you on making the amount you want. If they are making that amount or more they will be willing to show you how to do it too.
      Hello Loree,

      Some IM's do Coaching/Mentoring as a Business, you pay them to Mentor you. I think a few have been mentioned in this Thread, jus read it through from the start. You could also look through other Threads about Affiliate Marketing and see if others are mentioned there.

      Your very unlikely to jus be able to contact someone and have them Mentor you, they are usually too busy with their own Business's.

      But a starting point to learning is jus to take time reading all posts in these Threads and saving the good information into your own Affiliate Marketing Database, jus by creating a Word Doc and copy/pasting the informative posts.

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author ravenx
        LindyUK. It sounds like your are emailing the PDF to your list. How do you prevent the email from getting marked as spam? Would it not be easier to email them a link to the pdf? OR email them a link to a html page that contains what the pdf should have displayed?
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        • To prevent email from getting spammed, I would use another link. For instance, IBOtoolbox has a way where you can create your own link and use it to post anywhere. Hope this helps
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          • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
            Originally Posted by thepassivelifestyle View Post

            To prevent email from getting spammed, I would use another link. For instance, IBOtoolbox has a way where you can create your own link and use it to post anywhere. Hope this helps
            We also us another service for getting our message through by email an not having it caught in spam box's. Not used for the Newsletters but for other promotions.

            It's called BYOAUDIO an they have a free 30 day trial if anyone interested in it.

            The product we use is called an AudioNote. You are able to record or upload a voice message as well as put anything else on the page that you could on a website page, like text, photos or graphics, banners, videos, etc. Then you jus send the link to your AudioNote in your email.

            They also have a number of other services that you can use like audio and video streaming for your websites, sizzle lines which are phone lines where you can have a recorded message etc.

            Lindy
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        • Profile picture of the author RandyChen
          Hi, it's definitely possible to make $1000 with Amazon. It took me a while to get to this point but the 2 main things that helped achieved this was the niche with items priced between $200 and $300 and SEO. Don't think I would be able to get a lot of amazon sales without SEO because this traffic source seems to convert the best. I am on page 1 of google for some of my main keywords and I was able to rank so high was because of my unique content.
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by RandyChen View Post

            Hi, it's definitely possible to make $1000 with Amazon. It took me a while to get to this point but the 2 main things that helped achieved this was the niche with items priced between $200 and $300 and SEO. Don't think I would be able to get a lot of amazon sales without SEO because this traffic source seems to convert the best. I am on page 1 of google for some of my main keywords and I was able to rank so high was because of my unique content.
            What has been your most successful type of backlinking to rank your sites via SEO?
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            • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              What has been your most successful type of backlinking to rank your sites via SEO?
              It's the same as always. High PR relevant links and good on-page optimisation.
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by ravenx View Post

          LindyUK. It sounds like your are emailing the PDF to your list. How do you prevent the email from getting marked as spam? Would it not be easier to email them a link to the pdf? OR email them a link to a html page that contains what the pdf should have displayed?
          Yes sorry I made that a bit confusing. We upload the PDF to our website an only have the download link to it in the email.

          You should also get Subscribers to whitelist your email address when they sign up to your list so your emails get through. Also need a consistent Subject Heading so your mailings easily stand out to your Subscribers, as some are getting hundreds of emails a week.

          Can use a little free tool to add Symbols to your Subject line to make them stand out more from other emails, for instance Sherri uses 3 music note symbols in front of and behind her Subject Heading.

          It's at Email Subject Line "MIME Art" Generator#

          Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    to build a list, how I find new ebooks to offer free giveaways so that people opt in to my list?

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author meafim
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      to build a list, how I find new ebooks to offer free giveaways so that people opt in to my list?

      best wishes
      marco005

      Just do a search for plr ebooks. Search "[niche] plr". Example.... Search "weight loss plr"

      Or you can write one, or have one written be an outsourcer such as freelancer.com or odesk.com
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  • Profile picture of the author historial0racle
    What I wonder with giving away free ebooks is, that even if it is of high quality, the reader might have gotten the same ebook from another affiliate who is promoting in the same niche as me.

    Say I am the reader and I am looking for diets comparison and then I browse through sites and then notice that 2 sites are giving away the same ebook on diets.

    What happens then? Is it plausible?
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by historial0racle View Post

      What I wonder with giving away free ebooks is, that even if it is of high quality, the reader might have gotten the same ebook from another affiliate who is promoting in the same niche as me.

      Say I am the reader and I am looking for diets comparison and then I browse through sites and then notice that 2 sites are giving away the same ebook on diets.

      What happens then? Is it plausible?
      Hello,

      In meafim's answer they suggested PLR ebooks. PLR stands for Private Label Rights which gives you the right to label as your own ebook, but you should always change them, not just use them as is.

      You receive content in Word Doc's so easily able to edit content, add other images etc. You also can change or edit Cover Designs. If you are not capable of doing this yourself you can find someone at fiverr.com or other freelance sites to do changes for you.

      This then gives you your own unique ebook or report so you don't have the problem of someone seeing the exact same ebook on another site.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author lestermoreno
    Build an attractive and branded niche review site built around the topic of those keywords, is the key
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  • Profile picture of the author beasty513
    I know AA program is tough.

    Specially to break the $1K point.

    Takes a lot of effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @beasty513; which method/ affiliate program is better than AA to get fast the $1000 goal?


    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author bostjan33
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    1. You can make far more than a couple of 1000's, it all depends on your item selection, niche and of course, traffic load. And a few other things.

    2. About those payment proofs - most of them are fake. Just take a look at what are they trying to sell you along with those "reports". Common sense.
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  • I've done over $500 per month. $1,000 per month is just a function of scale - You just have to scale it.

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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    oh man.....

    @PathofLeastResistance; found your website,this amount of money you make with three sites, but not only 3 product sites, each of these sites has more than 25 pages..........
    So I think you have 75-100 pages all in all.

    Outsource a good template, 75 good written content and litte bit seo, that cost more than $370 a huge investment ( articles for $5) for a starter who begins with low budget, but its more when you need better content than $5 articles.

    So on the other site; like youre example, to make $1000 every month as azon affiliate,this is not possible with mini niche product review sites who has only 5 pages (product reviews) on it to get this amount of traffic and conversion rate (248 sales) on amazon.

    You need huge traffic so that 24.800 people must going from your site to amazon to make 1% conversion rate to get these 248 sales.

    ??? Is that correct or I be too complicated today?



    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      oh man.....

      @PathofLeastResistance; found your website,this amount of money you make with three sites, but not only 3 product sites, each of these sites has more than 25 pages..........
      So I think you have 75-100 pages all in all.

      Outsource a good template, 75 good written content and litte bit seo, that cost more than $370 a huge investment ( articles for $5) for a starter who begins with low budget, but its more when you need better content than $5 articles.

      So on the other site; like youre example, to make $1000 every month as azon affiliate,this is not possible with mini niche product review sites who has only 5 pages (product reviews) on it to get this amount of traffic and conversion rate (248 sales) on amazon.

      You need huge traffic so that 24.800 people must going from your site to amazon to make 1% conversion rate to get these 248 sales.

      ??? Is that correct or I be too complicated today?



      best wishes
      marco005
      Hi Marco -

      There is more about this on the site in the comments section, but each of the three sites actually has 100 product reviews each. However, not all of the reviews were posted prior to the two month period. I approach SEO/internet marking by testing with a small amount money, determining if there is a profit to made (big or small), then automating via either outsourcing or a script and then scale. And when I scale I scale hard. I don't think Amazon review articles need to cost more than $5.

      My conversion rates are closer to 12% (aff click to purchase) because I target buyers late in the buying stage. My CTR rates (visitor to aff click) are close to 30% because I pre-sell. Plus when people buy on Amazon they buy more than one thing. I'd estimate 30% of my sales are unrelated to products I promote.

      I would never attempt this with 5 pages, that won't get you anywhere. Google hates thin sites. Start with 20 pages, confirm that you can generate a profit and then scale via outsourcing.

      Other than product selection / competition analysis I outsourced the whole project. But I've recouped my investment and now the sites are just generating free cash flow.

      In general I invest in projects where I can recoup the investment in about 5 months. In this case it was quicker, some sometimes it is longer. But things change so fast in IM that if I can't get money back in 5-7 months I don't start the project.

      I hope this helps. The best thing you can do is start, make a plan and execute.
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  • Profile picture of the author SoEasyMoney
    PathofLeastResistance-I'm assuming you just do review type websites? That's pretty good. If you don't mind, how many websites do you have to make that much?
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    question to the amazon experts, I hope I will be not to complicated today....

    I know build a list is essential, but at the start beginning with low budget with $50, I think I will not get 500 subscribers on facebook with fb ads every month I spend this money, this number will be lower, a list under 2000 will not make $1000 in month with amazon I think.



    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      question to the amazon experts, I hope I will be not to complicated today....

      I know build a list is essential, but at the start beginning with low budget with $50, I think I will not get 500 subscribers on facebook with fb ads every month I spend this money, this number will be lower, a list under 2000 will not make $1000 in month with amazon I think.



      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      It is very easy to make way over $1000 a month from Affiliate Marketing to a small targeted list of 1000 to 2000, but not if you jus keep thinking via Amazon, or if you jus keep thinking in same traditional ways that most Affiliates think.

      This also address's your reply to a post above where you said:

      "You need huge traffic so that 24.800 people must going from your site to amazon to make 1% conversion rate to get these 248 sales."

      In the Amazon sales example you were commenting on, he needed the 248 sales to make the $1000 commission, so yes if conversion was only 1% you would need to drive high traffic to the site, and getting 24,800 people per month to a website would be hard for many who are new to this.

      In that example too, he's only making about $4 commission per sale.

      I have already explained a model using Targeted Lists and using different Thinking to make very good income from Affiliate Marketing, but you use Amazon as only part of the mix with our model. There are tens of thousands of other higher paying Affiliate Programs that you also can take advantage of with our model, including Clickbank products that pay from 50 to 75%.

      But I'll give a specific example of one that Sherri has used with her Music List. I may have already mentioned this one but it's a good example of how she made over $1000 per 1000 on her list with one promotion.

      Her Music List of musicians/singers/bands would be 75% or more Guys, most in 20's to 30's. In our model we are promoting via our Newsletters, the Amazon Stores are part of the key to each model, having a niche related SuperStore, but we are not limited to jus promoting those products. Within the Newsletters she can also promote any other Affiliate products she thinks may be of interest to her Newsletter Subscribers.

      Now this gives a huge range of products outside of the actual Music niche. Like what else would those Guys, and Girls too, be interested in that she could offer them? Answer - Lots!

      One thing most Guys in that age range would like is expensive watch's, like Tag Heuer, but most couldn't afford the thousands of dollars that the originals cost. So she found an Affiliate program for high quality replica watch's, selling for US$625 and a 20% Affiliate Commission.

      Now 20% on a $625 sale is $125 Commission per sale. (a bit different to $4 commission per sale per the Amazon example) To make $1000 commission now she only had to make 8 sales. If you said a 1% conversion per each 1000 on her List, that's 10 sales or $1250 Commission. Jus 8 sales per 1000 on her list would produce that $1000 commission. (per each 1000 Subscribers)

      She actually made thousands of dollar commission that month jus from that one promotion (over1% conversion) BUT REMEMBER, that was only 1 of a number of Affiliate Promotions in her Newsletter for that month, she has 6 to 8 promotions per Newsletter including her Amazon Music Stores with over 100,000 products in them alone.

      Brand name sunglass's is another good Affiliate Product for her, prices range from $145 to over $200 with 8% to 10% commission. Their not actually Music Niche related either, but again, do you think her target list subscribers would also be interested in them?. Of course they are.

      Our Affiliate Model opens so many other possibilities that you jus don't have if you are thinking along traditional Affiliate lines with review sites for jus Amazon products etc.

      And Re your comment you would not get 500 Subscribers per Month via FaceBook. My first comment is So What If You Don't! You just start List Building and keep Building. All Lists start at zero, you jus keep building on them year after year. One of ours is now over 120,000 for one niche but it started at nothing and continues to grow each year.

      My second comment is that it is way easy to get 500 Subscribers per month with FB, in some cases depending on the niche you could get that per week or even per day if you use software like SocialLeadfreak to target existing Groups in that niche. Jus save up your money an buy it, it's only about $100 or so, and you are supposed to be building a Business. We have to make investments in our Business's, even people who jus have Hobbies have to spend money on their Hobby. If you can't jus afford to spend $100 right away, jus save it up. Don't give excuses why you can't, jus start saving some money that you might be wasting elsewhere, or sell something to fund your Business. Jus get serious about your Business.

      THINK - LEARN - PLAN - And like that Nike Slogan - Jus Do It.

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author UncleDearest
        "So she found an Affiliate program for high quality replica watch's, selling for US$625 and a 20% Affiliate Commission."

        That really burns me. And you are not even shy about it.
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by UncleDearest View Post

          "So she found an Affiliate program for high quality replica watch's, selling for US$625 and a 20% Affiliate Commission."

          That really burns me. And you are not even shy about it.
          Hello

          Not sure what you mean by really burns you?

          "not shy about it" Well I am trying to help people by showing something very different to anything they will ever read in an ebook or a course. If people read my posts from the start, about page 2 I think, I have laid out a very different Affiliate Model to the normal, one that generates us over two million dollars a year just from our Affiliate Marketing, an Affiliate Marketing is one of the smaller segments of out Business's.

          Super Affiliates are not jus doing things in a normal way like making Amazon Review Sites. Certainly you can market that way too, but you have to think, how many others are doing the same? How many others have their own review site for exactly the same product? How many others are trying to get traffic to their same review site too?

          I tell people to THINK not jus FOLLOW! All of you could start building lists an do Affiliate Marketing in the way I have outlined for you. You jus start by Thinking an Planning, doing research on your selected niche, etc.,

          Instead of thinking that Amazon is the only Affiliate opportunity out there, jus use Google to search for other available Affiliate Programs for your niche, or that could be marketed to that same niche.

          Lindy
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by UncleDearest View Post

          "So she found an Affiliate program for high quality replica watch's, selling for US$625 and a 20% Affiliate Commission."

          That really burns me. And you are not even shy about it.
          Hmmm, someone jus told me I may not have understood your comment, (which is right, I didn't) and that you may mean you don't like the fact that Sherri is promoting an Affiliate offer for replicate Tag Heuer watch's.

          If that's the meaning of your comment my answer would be that Tag Heuer and other high end Watch Companies are the ones responsible for upkeep of their Brand name if they so desire, not a 16 year old girl!

          They are companies turning over hundreds of millions of dollars in sales so have the capability of legal action against replica companies if they choose to do so. They would certainly know about these replica watch companies, these companies operate quite openly on the market, with their websites and affiliate programs, and even source their watch movements from Switzerland.

          Now companies like Nike for example do take action to protect their Brand, so why don't the watch companies? They are the only ones that can answer that.

          Lindy
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          • Profile picture of the author UncleDearest
            Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

            Hmmm, someone jus told me I may not have understood your comment, (which is right, I didn't) and that you may mean you don't like the fact that Sherri is promoting an Affiliate offer for replicate Tag Heuer watch's.

            If that's the meaning of your comment my answer would be that Tag Heuer and other high end Watch Companies are the ones responsible for upkeep of their Brand name if they so desire, not a 16 year old girl!

            They are companies turning over hundreds of millions of dollars in sales so have the capability of legal action against replica companies if they choose to do so. They would certainly know about these replica watch companies, these companies operate quite openly on the market, with their websites and affiliate programs, and even source their watch movements from Switzerland.

            Now companies like Nike for example do take action to protect their Brand, so why don't the watch companies? They are the only ones that can answer that.

            Lindy
            It amazes me that you even had to think about what I wrote. It scares me that you justify your (daughters) actions by basically saying "stealing is OK as long as the victims aren't diligent enough to catch you." Selling replicas of anything is unethical and illegal. It would be impossible for me to debate this further with you. Step outside of yourself and look what you wrote!
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            • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
              Originally Posted by UncleDearest View Post

              It amazes me that you even had to think about what I wrote. It scares me that you justify your (daughters) actions by basically saying "stealing is OK as long as the victims aren't diligent enough to catch you." Selling replicas of anything is unethical and illegal. It would be impossible for me to debate this further with you. Step outside of yourself and look what you wrote!
              Hello,

              Re I had to think about what you wrote. I didn't know at first what your comment, "That really burns me", meant. It doesn't really make any sense in English, it's obviously some sort of slang, so I was not aware of it's meaning until another reader pointed it out to me.

              I think your getting a little bit dramatic here, an not really considering the fact that if the high end watch companies wanted to close down these replica watch websites and affiliate programs, they could easily do so within a short space of time. Without their websites the companies couldn't trade and would cease to exist.

              We own two large Hosting Companies so we know the facts.

              Tag Heuer and all other high end watch companies have/own worldwide trademark protection for their Branding and Logo's, the same as any other large International Company.

              Most large companies like Nike choose to protect their Branding, using international conventions and laws to do so.

              Tag Heuer and other high end watch companies are companies with hundreds of millions of dollars in turnover, they have both the money an resources to easily find, identify and close the means of replica watch selling, ie their websites but they choose not to.

              It has nothing to do with their diligence to catch or that they don't know about these replica companies, they most certainly know about them, an can easily shut down their websites.

              If someone took our Branding or Logo's we would immediately take action to reclaim them, an we are a small company in relation to them.

              They choose not to. Why, I don't know, they are the only ones who could answer that. Perhaps they consider people might start with a high quality replica then want to graduate to the real thing. But for the present they are in effect allowing the sale of these replica's, so that's up to them.

              You don't have to debate with me, you have given your views, but at this point even Tag Heuer and the other Companies seem to take a different view of the situation.

              Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author PrimaDNA1989
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    What is the most latest course to learn Amazon affiliate marketing after all the updates? most latest?
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    • Profile picture of the author wayneh
      Originally Posted by PrimaDNA1989 View Post

      What is the most latest course to learn Amazon affiliate marketing after all the updates? most latest?
      For me the latest course I've bought is Azon Zoom by Erica Stone. It is a current WSO - http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...g-bonus.html#1

      It's designed for beginners in mind and goes through the basics of affiliate marketing and being an Amazon affiliate, how to pick products, keywords, setting up a site, getting traffic etc. It seems good so far, as I'm going through it at the moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    WOW!

    LindyUK, I'm lost my words............unbelivable.. grandious.....

    I put your text in my little word doc too I have named it= List business model

    Lindy, sorry that I make an dumb question, how do you know that 20-30 years guys like Tag Heuer watches? ??

    Is there any free online statistic tool where I can get such informations?

    You are the azon guru woman.......great!
    It inspires me, it turnes me on!
    You show me what is possible more in detail as other gurus here,so I can make an good image in my head what is this about....to understand it and it is great that you earnings are higher when you have good multiple affiliate offers not only azon for your subscribers.

    Is it good to mix with multiple affiliate offers,high and low price ticket items?
    I know business in europe is different here you can not offer both; high and low price item, when you do this, most buy the low ticket item.

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      WOW!

      LindyUK, I'm lost my words............unbelivable.. grandious.....

      I put your text in my little word doc too I have named it= List business model

      Lindy, sorry that I make an dumb question, how do you know that 20-30 years guys like Tag Heuer watches? ??

      Is there any free online statistic tool where I can get such informations?

      You are the azon guru woman.......great!
      It inspires me, it turnes me on!
      You show me what is possible more in detail as other gurus here,so I can make an good image in my head what is this about....to understand it and it is great that you earnings are higher when you have good multiple affiliate offers not only azon for your subscribers.

      Is it good to mix with multiple affiliate offers,high and low price ticket items?
      I know business in europe is different here you can not offer both; high and low price item, when you do this, most buy the low ticket item.

      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      How do I know what Guys like?
      Answer: Because I'm a Girl an we know everything about you guys. lol.

      But really - not every Guy in that age range will want a Tag Heuer watch, but enough of them will. We research our target markets, one way is to buy the same magazines that are popular with Guys in that age range, and look at what is being offered to them in advertisements. Companies advertising in high quality magazines are spending a fortune on those ads, so they have already done the major research for us.

      "Is there any free online statistic tool where I can get such informations?"

      Answer: An offline one - your Brain & Thinking. An online one - Google.
      But it's not about statistics, it's more about jus thinking about your target market and what they already buy or would be interested in buying.

      "It inspires me, it turnes me on!"
      Sorry marco, going to throw a bucket of cold water over you now! Splash! lol

      "Is it good to mix with multiple affiliate offers,high and low price ticket items?
      I know business in europe is different here you can not offer both; high and low price item, when you do this, most buy the low ticket item."

      Answer: Your thinking is jus completely wrong an not logical at all.

      Examples: If say someone buys an expensive electric guitar from one of Sherri's Amazon Music Stores, they also buy anything from guitar picks to whatever. If she only offered the electric guitars she would lose out on all the associated accessory sales. They would have to go an buy them elsewhere an someone else now makes that profit, not her. Why would she do that?

      If you were selling power tools to Guys but also had hand tools in your shop, are they going to now jus mainly buy the hand saw because it's cheaper than the power saw?

      You have to use real world thinking. With any product, some can afford to pay for the most expensive and some cannot. It's no different at all with online selling.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Yeah, Lindy you gives me throw cold water splashes....lol haha that's great really.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author TheMarketingLord
    Oh it definitely is - however, the question is - is it worth it? In my opinion, Amazon is not even close to the easiest or best way to make money online - the commissions are a total JOKE and the competition is HUGE. I'd stay away from it.

    Jan
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    • Profile picture of the author TerryDay2010
      Originally Posted by TheMarketingLord View Post

      Oh it definitely is - however, the question is - is it worth it? In my opinion, Amazon is not even close to the easiest or best way to make money online - the commissions are a total JOKE and the competition is HUGE. I'd stay away from it.

      Jan
      I have tried many of the affiliates like, Amazon, Clickbank (no longer around) and a few others. What I have found is that higher paying commissions is a better way to go. It's so much easier in my own eyes to to make a thousand dollars selling one product at $1,000 rather than making a thousand sales at $1.

      There are great systems out there as online business models and opportunities that are really great.
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Originally Posted by TerryDay2010 View Post

        I have tried many of the affiliates like, Amazon, Clickbank (no longer around) and a few others. What I have found is that higher paying commissions is a better way to go. It's so much easier in my own eyes to to make a thousand dollars selling one product at $1,000 rather than making a thousand sales at $1.

        There are great systems out there as online business models and opportunities that are really great.
        Hello TerryDay

        Clickbank is still around, you must mean some other program.

        Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author Freeyourtime
    Hi, i think there is People making those numbers but WHY are they showing them? Is it because they want you to join something?? If you learn how to work with Internet Marketing as a sidekick you will earn more, or just look at something else on the Net for a better income.. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by Freeyourtime View Post

      Hi, i think there is People making those numbers but WHY are they showing them? Is it because they want you to join something?? If you learn how to work with Internet Marketing as a sidekick you will earn more, or just look at something else on the Net for a better income.. :-)
      Hello

      Well I sometimes mention some of our numbers, but jus to show people what is possible. I don't have anything to sell, we are not in the Business of producing ebooks or courses. I think most others here are jus dong the same.

      Sure if the figures and income screenshots are on a sales page or website trying to sell you an ebook or course then you have to be a bit suspicious, some are genuine but it is easy to fake them, and no one would let you into their accounts to verify them. Some do use live video, showing them logging into an account and showing sales and commissions, to prove they are genuine, they would be extremely hard to fake so you could fairly well take as being genuine.

      Lindy
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      • Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        Hello

        Well I sometimes mention some of our numbers, but jus to show people what is possible. I don't have anything to sell, we are not in the Business of producing ebooks or courses. I think most others here are jus dong the same.

        Sure if the figures and income screenshots are on a sales page or website trying to sell you an ebook or course then you have to be a bit suspicious, some are genuine but it is easy to fake them, and no one would let you into their accounts to verify them. Some do use live video, showing them logging into an account and showing sales and commissions, to prove they are genuine, they would be extremely hard to fake so you could fairly well take as being genuine.

        Lindy
        Agree with this. The big problem is most people fail at making money online, so they think the next opp is to scam people into thinking they have made good money. Then there are those few who actually have made it, but its hard to separate yourself from the scammers.

        I do think that the mentality of not sharing your money making success plans is the wrong way to go and think. You can share them, most people won't take action and others will give up before it materializes. Others who do see a profit won't scale it.

        The most successful people on the internet are teachers or service providers who have really connected with their customers/students.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    does some email companies like mailchimp,forbidden that I put affiliate links in my email?

    or does they forbidden that I will promote products in my email but I link always first to my own site and then from there to the affiliate product.


    best wishes
    marco005

    PS: which is best placement in facebook to put eye catchy email opt in?
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    • You've got to be careful with your email lists. If you have a good, targeted list, you need to treat your subscribers as friends. Only promote products you believe in or have used. Don't sell to them on every email and add value to their lives.

      A good email list is one of the most sought after assets anywhere because it is yours, you are not at the mercy of Google, FB or affiliate company. It's yours.

      Targeted email list = converting customer list = recurring revenue forever

      If you just spam out emails - 1)your account will get closed because of spam complaints 2) your conversion rate will be a fraction of 1%.

      Email lists are really the only thing in IM that I believe you should always follow the "rules"
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @Lindy; when you promote affiliate product through your emails adn send them first to your site,, does you write product reviews? Or like the guitar page as example,your write it more as an overall view of the products you recommend?

    Or you write for every affiliate income stream every week long product reviews?
    You can not send users to a blank page, where you have textlinks to astores,clickbank and so on.....you must have text on such a website.

    What do you write on this website? Example; an information text about guitars?


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      @Lindy; when you promote affiliate product through your emails adn send them first to your site,, does you write product reviews? Or like the guitar page as example,your write it more as an overall view of the products you recommend?

      Or you write for every affiliate income stream every week long product reviews?
      You can not send users to a blank page, where you have textlinks to astores,clickbank and so on.....you must have text on such a website.

      What do you write on this website? Example; an information text about guitars?


      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      You need to save all my posts and read back through them to get a full understanding of our model. I'll answer your questions but I'v given more detailed information in other posts.

      Taking Sherri's Music site as the example. The email she sends out isn't like a one page sales email, it's a 4 page Newsletter that she jus sends out once a month to her list. (She finish's school this year so will then have time to make up and send her Newsletter more often, she's planning on mailing them every 2 weeks)

      We don't write reviews for the products either in the Newsletter or on our websites.

      The Newsletter is mainly filled with a number of short articles that would be interesting to her readers, so in this case that can be anything to do with music. She mainly jus finds interesting stories on the internet, from say US MSN, or from going to Music related websites or from Music Magazines. So she just rewrites these articles so they are slightly different.

      Between articles she will have one of her Ads, so she usually has from 6 to 8 Ads in each Newsletter. She will try to match some of her Ads to an article in some way, so it is associated. For example she found this story on the Web - "Eric Clapton raised $2.2 million at a Bonhams auction in New York yesterday, as buyers competed for his guitars, amplifiers and other memorabilia" He auctioned some of his guitars to raise money for a charity, and one guitar sold for over $82,000, etc. So under that article she had an Ad for her Amazon Guitar Shop. And she just had a headline something like, "If You Can't Afford To Buy A Classic Guitar - We have thousands of Acoustic & Electric Guitars at very affordable prices" Then she jus wrote something about being one of the largest Online Guitar Stores in the World, some of the Guitar Brands, over 20,000 Guitars, then something about all the other guitar accessories, etc. Then she jus had - Come And See and her Website address.

      We are not writing any reviews, we don't have to, jus whatever niche you are promoting you are jus looking for interesting stories to put in your Newsletter, and you are mixing your Ads between articles.

      We are not sending them to a blank page with jus the text links to the Stores, but we don't really have to write much on the website, jus make it attractive. I won't say what she has there but for instance you could just have your Header Graphic and some photos of Guitars, Drums, Keyboards etc and the links to the different stores, or you could have some text bout the range of products in your stores.

      In our model the website is like the Building that the stores are in. We are not trying to get any traffic at all from the search engines, so we don't have to try to rank the website by having loads of content on them. Our traffic is coming from the Newsletter Subscriber's. They are already interested in the things she is selling in the stores.

      Think about if you walk into an electronics store or any store really, you don't see text signs all over the place with reviews or big write-ups on them. If you walk over to say a camera or TV you might see a small card with the details of that product, or you might read more on the box. In our case, someone going to our Amazon Store can read about the particular product from the information that Amazon lists on that product page.

      Our way is very different to Review Sites for Amazon Products, with Review Sites you are writing Reviews one product at a time. Our way, we are offering an promoting maybe 100,000 products at a time, more like if you actually walked into a Superstore.

      Hope that explains more for you, but start from my first post and work through them, because most have little bits of information that you need to put together.

      Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
    I agree with the people who said to promote higher cost products to get bigger commissions.

    The commission on a crystal chandelier is a lot bigger than the commission from a textbook.

    I also do well with promoting Amazon products related to better health, such as weight loss products, beauty products, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author ravenx
      LindyUK. In reference to your post. You link back to your website? Why not link to an amazon store? Or even promote an amazon product directly from within the newsleter?

      By sending newsletter subscribers from your newsletter to your website...and have to navigate to specific pages...and then click on your amazon widgets or what have you...it seems like you lose a lot of conversions through the process had you just linked to them directly to amazon in the newsletter
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Originally Posted by ravenx View Post

        LindyUK. In reference to your post. You link back to your website? Why not link to an amazon store? Or even promote an amazon product directly from within the newsleter?

        By sending newsletter subscribers from your newsletter to your website...and have to navigate to specific pages...and then click on your amazon widgets or what have you...it seems like you lose a lot of conversions through the process had you just linked to them directly to amazon in the newsletter
        Hello ravenx,

        Re: You link back to your website? Why not link to an amazon store?

        ANSWER - I'll frame my answer to your first question in the form of a question of my own. Do you know of any large Offline Store or Superstore who sends their customers to their Wholesaler's to make their purchases?

        If they did their customers would soon jus get into the habit of visiting the Wholesaler and not gong to their Store at all. We want to build our own Store Branding and have people going into our Store first to do their shopping,

        Re: Or even promote an amazon product directly from within the newsletter?

        ANSWER - So we have an Amazon SuperStore but we only want to promote ONE Product? That doesn't make sense at all to us that we would promote one product at a time. I'v mentioned before that we think of that like taking retailing back a few hundred years, where someone may have made jus one product and sold it, or even a small range of products like cooking pots, but you had to find someone else who made the stirring spoons. We want to offer the cooking pots and the stirring spoons, and anything else they might need for their "cooking"!

        I really don't think some traditional ways of Internet Affiliate Marketing are very logical at all, like offering jus one product. Say your a fisherman, would you prefer to go into say a shop where they sell jus one fishing rod, or would you prefer to go to a Fishing SuperStore where you know they sell everything you could possibly think of for your fishing hobby?

        Or think about it another way. What is popular with shoppers now days? Do they prefer to visit small stand alone stores or do they prefer to visit a large Department Store or a Mall or SuperStore? Where do you find more shoppers?

        The answer is fairly obvious really, even in a small town with say grocery shopping, most people will go to the largest Supermarkets than shop at the small corner or convenience store. So why do Internet marketers jus totally ignore modern retail trends, an not that modern either, large Department Stores and even large Mail Order Catalogue Stores have been around for at least a century.

        We DO promote some single products in the Newsletters that are not related to Amazon, and may send those directly to an Affiliate link, an example would be to a Clickbank Product.

        RE: By sending newsletter subscribers from your newsletter to your website...and have to navigate to specific pages...and then click on your amazon widgets or what have you...it seems like you lose a lot of conversions through the process had you just linked to them directly to amazon in the newsletter

        ANSWER - We think of our Website as being like a Mall or a SuperStore. So say they went into a real life main street Music SuperStore, an first floor is Guitars an Accessories. Second floor is Keyboards. Third Floor is Drums etc.

        So our Amazon Store links within our Website are like those different Floors. Click on the Guitars link and it takes you to the Guitar Floor. Click on the Keyboards link and you go to the Keyboards floor etc.

        We are not sending them to a single product that we have chosen, if they go to the Guitar Shop (or floor) they are then presented in this case with a choice of around 20,000 Guitars plus all the accessories as well. Like even the humble Guitar Pick they have about 14,000 choices available to them.

        And while their in our Website (SuperStore) say to look at Guitars, and they see we have another Store (or floor) there that sells Recording Equipment (about 34,000 items in that Store) they might decide they need to buy something in there too. The same way as if you went into a large Department Store or Mall to buy a certain product, your very likely to see something else you might like too and buy it as well, or at least put it on your wish list and come back at another time to purchase it.

        RE: "it seems like you lose a lot of conversions through the process had you just linked to them directly to amazon in the newsletter"

        ANSWER - Lose conversions? Noooo - this is how we make conversions and sell so much extra to each customer. We are offering them the same shopping experience as if they walked into say a Music SuperStore and walked through the Store, visiting different Departments or Floors. But they can do this from comfort of their home and via their computers, any time of the day or night and with lower prices, which is the convenience of Internet Shopping.

        So this is the model that Sherri is using for her Music list and Stores, and that we are using for our overall Affiliate Marketing Division. Sherri doesn't want me to give her figures but for a 16 year old girl she's making well over a normal adults weekly wage, so multiply the topic of this thread by a few and you will get an idea.

        For our own Affiliate Marketing Division we currently make over two million dollars per year in Affiliate commissions from about 8 Niche Lists. I don't think any Affiliate Marketers using single product promotions or Review Sites could make a fraction of that, unless they were selling very high priced items.

        I just give our figures to show what are model can produce, because we think most Affiliate Marketers do it completely wrong by playing Follow The Leader from ebooks an courses on Affiliate Marketing. We are covering only 9 Niches, including Sherri's, but this model could really be used with hundreds of different niche markets.

        Lindy
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I need little bit of cold water splah please.......

    Lindy, it is not looking spammy to your subscribers,when you put in an 4 page newlsletter a few affiliate links in each of a newsletter page?

    When you link from newsletter to your own website,does you must cloak the links?
    What an amazing business model you have Lindy, I will start next week monday to hope get good fast traffic from pinterest to build a list (I start first with pinter traffic), perhaps I put in my website a big opt in sign and little bit adsense too,hope adsense make fast little money every month to can do more reinvest to grow up my business......

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      I need little bit of cold water splah please.......

      Lindy, it is not looking spammy to your subscribers,when you put in an 4 page newlsletter a few affiliate links in each of a newsletter page?

      When you link from newsletter to your own website,does you must cloak the links?
      What an amazing business model you have Lindy, I will start next week monday to hope get good fast traffic from pinterest to build a list (I start first with pinter traffic), perhaps I put in my website a big opt in sign and little bit adsense too,hope adsense make fast little money every month to can do more reinvest to grow up my business......

      best wishes
      marco005
      Hello marco,

      K, SPLASH! lol.

      Re: "Lindy, it is not looking spammy to your subscribers,when you put in an 4 page newlsletter a few affiliate links in each of a newsletter page?"

      ANSWER: No, it's in the form of a small Ad with the link. If you read a Magazine you are also expecting to see Advertisements for products related to that Magazines niche, and often those Advertisements are targeted to the articles on that page, so think of our Advertisements an links in our Newsletter in the same way.

      RE: "When you link from newsletter to your own website, does you must cloak the links?"

      ANSWER: Sometimes. For example if Sherri has put an Ad relating to one of the Amazon Music stores or other Affiliate Stores or Offers that are within her Website (the SuperStore) she just adds the URL of her Website.

      If the Ad in the Newsletter relates to an Affiliate Offer that is NOT in the Website (say a ClickBank offer or other) then she will cloak the link by making it into a custom link, so it relates, not jus a normal cloaked link like a series of letters and numbers, jus looks better that way.

      Because the Newsletters are delivered in PDF Format the links are all clickable, and your also not being caught by email spam filters for having too many links in an email.

      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Jus a note on what I'm saying in my posts.

        I'm not saying Review Site's don't work or that our way is the only way you should work, I'm more saying you need to be thinking how you can get some competitive advantage for yourself.

        With Review Sites, traditionally you are relying on search engine traffic, so if you an a thousand others have a review site on the same product, who will get the most traffic to their site? The Answer is usually the biggest Marketer who can spend the most money driving traffic to his/her site, or the Marketer with the most SEO experience etc.

        So for an inexperienced Marketer it's way hard to take much of that traffic away from the Professional Marketer, an then you still have to compete with the other 1000 people who have similar review sites for the same product.

        So you have to THINK of different ways to do it, how to stand out from the others so people come to you.

        Say we think of selling balloons at a fair, an there are 10 people all selling balloons. But one person is dressed as a Clown, he stands out from the rest, he has created a competitive advantage for himself, children an their parents will be attracted to him to buy their balloons before buying them from anyone jus dressed in normal clothing.

        So you have to think how to create that competitive advantage for yourself, no matter which marketing model you choose to do.

        Our model is based on building Niche Mailing Lists and the main reason for that is that then we don't have to compete with ANY OTHER Marketer, we have our OWN customer base to market too, ones who WANT to read our Newsletters and have no hesitation in buying from us because they have an ongoing relationship with us, in the same way as say loyal customers of a Department Store. We are also not having to be continually looking for new customers to buy a single (or a few) products we are selling, we are trying to be the One Stop SuperStore for everything that our customer would need for his/her particular interest, they don't have to go looking elsewhere when we are offering everything they could need.

        That's our way of thinking.

        Lindy
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        • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
          My question for you folks is how do you stand out amongst everyone else when you do make a review?

          Better yet, how do you make a review without having the product? Wouldn't the bets review be from your own experience? Do you buy the product try it out and then return it?

          I'm trying to figure how we can stand out amongst the 9283982359283 other reviews online.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            As a personal preference, I never do "product reviews". By using the direct marketing models discussed in this thread, the level of competition within any given niche becomes insignificant. What we are showing here is to stand out from the crowd through branding. There is no way of competing effectively (particularly within niches dominated by deep-pocketed marketing professionals) without branding yourself first. For example, think of article syndication, building niche lists, newsletters, networking, etc as parts of a totally integrated marketing system. By being known and knowing your customers, products, and niche, you can consistently beat the competition all-to-hell. In my experience, the highest conversions are achieved through trusted product recommendations, not "reviews".

            In order to maximize customer value, you need a way to establish and continually build relationships with your buyers. I know of no better way than to build a list of those who make purchases. In addition to regularly scheduled email promotions (such as newsletters), consider offering your best customers other contact options such as a toll-free telephone number, social media, product webinars, local niche seminars, etc. As part of my sales funnel, I also do telemarketing, direct mail and even have sales reps familiar with the product(s) visit customers personally to help close high-end deals. We call these incrementally personal methods "loyalty-based actionable communication channels".
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            • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
              Geez Myob, you an PathofLeastResistance should get together.

              Him with his "the efficient market hypothesis" and "opportunity cost" and you with your "incrementally personal methods "loyalty-based actionable communication channels".

              I could use big words like that too, but then even I wouldn't know what I mean! lol.

              I never went to college, actually didn't even graduate high school, so make it so that even Lindy understands what you mean. lol

              Lindy
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              • Profile picture of the author jan roos
                Lindy, thanks for taking the time to share your business model with us. That is much appreciated.

                I have one question if you don't mind. When you promote your newsletter via banners, facebook, offline etc.

                Do you give something away like a free report or do u just say "Come join the web's best damn music newsletter" with an optin form?

                Thanks

                Jan
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                • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
                  Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

                  Lindy, thanks for taking the time to share your business model with us. That is much appreciated.

                  I have one question if you don't mind. When you promote your newsletter via banners, facebook, offline etc.

                  Do you give something away like a free report or do u just say "Come join the web's best damn music newsletter" with an optin form?

                  Thanks

                  Jan
                  Hello jan roos,

                  We don't give anything else away like reports. Our Newsletter idea is modelled on Magazines (Print Magazines) so we are promoting them in similar ways to how Magazines promote themselves.

                  So we don't call them Newsletters, we call them by their Publication name, like - All the Muze.

                  We promote the benefits - mainly the content. Like we try to have some running content that is not so readily available in mainstream Music Magazines. Examples here for musicians/singers/bands niche is we have ongoing monthly content re how they can promote themselves, and another ongoing about home recording studios.

                  We will also use the bigger giveaways like festival or concert tickets in the promotion Ads.

                  My examples are mainly using Sherri's music niche but we do similar with our other niche markets.

                  Lindy
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                  • Profile picture of the author jan roos
                    Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

                    Hello jan roos,

                    We don't give anything else away like reports. Our Newsletter idea is modelled on Magazines (Print Magazines) so we are promoting them in similar ways to how Magazines promote themselves.

                    So we don't call them Newsletters, we call them by their Publication name, like - All the Muze.

                    We promote the benefits - mainly the content. Like we try to have some running content that is not so readily available in mainstream Music Magazines. Examples here for musicians/singers/bands niche is we have ongoing monthly content re how they can promote themselves, and another ongoing about home recording studios.

                    We will also use the bigger giveaways like festival or concert tickets in the promotion Ads.

                    My examples are mainly using Sherri's music niche but we do similar with our other niche markets.

                    Lindy
                    Thanks for clearing that up Lindy. Do you use a standard squeeze page as your landing page or do you have landing pages with more content on them?

                    Thanks again for your input.
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                    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
                      Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

                      Thanks for clearing that up Lindy. Do you use a standard squeeze page as your landing page or do you have landing pages with more content on them?

                      Thanks again for your input.
                      Hello jan roos

                      Not sure of what your reference is, because some squeeze pages now days are very plain, I'v seen people promoting the "New" style of squeeze page that looks like its related to a plain WP blog. No photo's or graphics at all which to us is very silly. They forget the old saying "a picture paints a thousand words".

                      I'd say our squeeze pages are more old style, very graphical, not a lot of content on them, but with creative make overs.

                      Again we use different ideas an thinking with most anything we do, we want to stand out, be noticed and remembered.

                      Sherri's for example is based on the design of a Concert or Festival poster, so way different to what most people's idea of a squeeze page is.

                      Have you ever gone to squeeze pages that look so boring that you wonder if you should even sign up for their content or newsletter, thinking they might be the same?

                      Well our squeeze pages look way more exciting, made to wet their appetites to what they are going to be getting from signing up.

                      We don't jus follow normal Internet Marketing conventions, the way everyone else does it, we make up our own idea's, we might pinch idea's from other media and make them over for our own use.

                      Example that can relate to our idea of a squeeze page, say Circus Posters, especially old ones, they were very graphical, showed you the experience you were going to have before you even went to the Circus. They made you want to go to experience all that. In the music industry, some of the Concert an Music Festival posters do the same.

                      There is an advertising saying "sell the sizzle not the steak". A squeeze page is really the door that people are choosing to go through (or not) to get to your products, so we want to make our doorway very enticing.

                      We want to create excitement for what is on the other side of that door. Do you understand that?

                      Lindy
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          • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
            Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

            My question for you folks is how do you stand out amongst everyone else when you do make a review?

            Better yet, how do you make a review without having the product? Wouldn't the bets review be from your own experience? Do you buy the product try it out and then return it?

            I'm trying to figure how we can stand out amongst the 9283982359283 other reviews online.
            Hello GGpaul,

            I agree with Myob's reply, an we would never do Product Review sites either.

            There is really no good way of standing out from the crowd, you need to drive traffic by paid PPC or you need to be outstanding with your SEO, otherwise your going to be lucky to be on page 101 an more likely page 1001. lol

            Sure you could get some results, but I doubt many could make the $1000 a month per topic of this Thread. Longtail keywords might help, but then you only get a trickle of traffic. Silo Sites might help, but if you don't know what they are, then don't bother, their not that easy. Video reviews on YouTube? Maybe, I don't know what the competition is there.

            Years ago when someone first thought of Review Sites everyone made a killing with them, but now you would be lucky to find a product that hasn't got too much competition with review sites.

            Your second question is also part of the problem. It's not practical to buy each product to review, so everyone copies another review or makes up one from the available product information, so every review is nearly the same.

            If someone thinks our advice is wrong, feel free to come an tell us, but your going to have to be very convincing, I think Myob an ourselves have a lot of experience in the Affiliate field.

            Lindy
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          • Profile picture of the author wayneh
            Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

            My question for you folks is how do you stand out amongst everyone else when you do make a review?

            Better yet, how do you make a review without having the product? Wouldn't the bets review be from your own experience? Do you buy the product try it out and then return it?

            I'm trying to figure how we can stand out amongst the 9283982359283 other reviews online.
            Hi GGPaul,

            The best resource I've found in standing out when making a review is Erica Stone's Extreme Review - http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...blueprint.html

            It shows how she does in depth reviews to provide something more than you usually get on Amazon review sites, so they stand out. Good luck with your new site.
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