The Most Effective Traffic Source To CPA Offer

by MikeMorgan 348 replies
Hi Warriors,

One of he hottest money maker nowadays is CPA .

Now ,I want to discuss about the #1 most effective source of traffic for CPA offers.

For me , even though I use multiple sources of traffic , #1 most effective source of traffic is PPC,specially Google Adwords .

What about you.

Which traffic source is bringing you the most success with CPA offers?

Mike
#ad networks (cpm/cpl, display) #cpa #effective #offer #source #traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author JoinTopMentor
    I guess PPC to CPA would work for a high volume of low competition long tail keywords. But competitive words simply won't convert well enough...the only way I see it working is to send them to a squeeze page to capture a name & email to which you can then market to for a lifetime.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by JoinTopMentor View Post

      I guess PPC to CPA would work for a high volume of low competition long tail keywords. But competitive words simply won't convert well enough...the only way I see it working is to send them to a squeeze page to capture a name & email to which you can then market to for a lifetime.
      I also use both of the techniques , but make sure that you use it properly , specially the lead capture for general keywords .

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  • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
    I am turning to CPA now and I think VIDEOS are going to be very hot source of traffic ... I even heard Luke Sample likes doing videos amongst other things for his traffic!

    -Lakshay
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    • Profile picture of the author motivebrendan
      Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

      I am turning to CPA now and I think VIDEOS are going to be very hot source of traffic ... I even heard Luke Sample likes doing videos amongst other things for his traffic!

      -Lakshay
      I have tried video as a traffic source - i think you are right it will be a good way to drive but i did not have luck with it. It's part of the future but not now..
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    • Profile picture of the author star007
      I never thought about video as a way to promote CPA offers, but why not? They are used to promote everything else. Cool idea.

      What cpa networks do you like and are they difficult to get into? I've heard some are.
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    For me PPC is the best for CPA.
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  • Profile picture of the author jspmedia
    organic search with right type of campaign. I have a site and I did almost $20K per month from one site, after program killed all affiliate programs, income went down and no other offers converts like the other program. PPC is quick and targeted, but if you have organic traffics, it is free and targeted.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sipboy3000
      PPC is by far the best tool for me with CPA offers. I like using the Google Adwords Content Network because you can get cheap traffic using images and placements.
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      • Profile picture of the author ahmedezzezz
        Originally Posted by Sipboy3000 View Post

        PPC is by far the best tool for me with CPA offers. I like using the Google Adwords Content Network because you can get cheap traffic using images and placements.
        How Much does it cost to make a campaign on Adwords ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Flaura78
      Originally Posted by jspmedia View Post

      organic search with right type of campaign. I have a site and I did almost $20K per month from one site, after program killed all affiliate programs, income went down and no other offers converts like the other program. PPC is quick and targeted, but if you have organic traffics, it is free and targeted.
      Thanks for sharing it... I recently discovered that sending my wordpress blog to rss and my autoresponder messages too will bring in free traffic. One day I just noticed that Feedburner, Yahoo Search and Google bot were all sending me free clicks. As I am greedy I paused my PPC campaigns and started to concentrate on this kind of traffic, as it is targeted, free and get loads of free clicks daily.
      I also had the same experience with offers lately. I use a tracking link for all my offers to see where the traffic's coming from, and once an offer came down replaced it with another within the same network.
      Now: Offer 1 was just a splash page, paid 3.40 and converted at 35%.
      Offer 2 is a video Splash and pays 1.50, hasn't converted yet.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by Flaura78 View Post

        Thanks for sharing it... I recently discovered that sending my wordpress blog to rss and my autoresponder messages too will bring in free traffic. One day I just noticed that Feedburner, Yahoo Search and Google bot were all sending me free clicks. As I am greedy I paused my PPC campaigns and started to concentrate on this kind of traffic, as it is targeted, free and get loads of free clicks daily.
        I also had the same experience with offers lately. I use a tracking link for all my offers to see where the traffic's coming from, and once an offer came down replaced it with another within the same network.
        Now: Offer 1 was just a splash page, paid 3.40 and converted at 35%.
        Offer 2 is a video Splash and pays 1.50, hasn't converted yet.

        I agree that submitting RSS feeds can bring you traffic .

        But , most of the problem the traffic is not targeted . So , you need a proper way of monetization to get the most from it .

        Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author shaddywilly
      Originally Posted by jspmedia View Post

      organic search with right type of campaign. I have a site and I did almost $20K per month from one site, after program killed all affiliate programs, income went down and no other offers converts like the other program. PPC is quick and targeted, but if you have organic traffics, it is free and targeted.
      Can you please elaborate more on this.What is organic search and how do you get it
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      • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
        Originally Posted by shaddywilly View Post

        Can you please elaborate more on this.What is organic search and how do you get it
        Offline refers to non internet businesses, sch as local newspapers, TV advertising etc, you know, the 'real world' lol.

        Organic as I understand it refers to people who come to your offers but not through advertising, more like they are fan of the subject of your website ie snowboards and follow up reccommendations or keyword connections on your site, that plus SEO which basically means your site on snowboards is on page one and gets a lot of traffic that arrives there who do searches such as 'white left handed aerobatic snowboards made in Invercargil' (a very very remote town, lol)'..its up to you to build your site carefully to get it to rank on page one.
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  • Profile picture of the author GreatBiz
    I use PPC and organic search traffic. Onsite placement and drive tons of targeted traffic using article marketing and Web 2.0.
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    • Originally Posted by GreatBiz View Post

      I use PPC and organic search traffic. Onsite placement and drive tons of targeted traffic using article marketing and Web 2.0.
      GreatBiz,

      In your experience, are some article marketing sites better for attracting and converting traffic? Do you have preferred article marketing sites or is it better to use one or two sites only?

      What are your views?

      With thanks.

      Small Business Coach
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by SmallBusinessCoach View Post

        GreatBiz,

        In your experience, are some article marketing sites better for attracting and converting traffic? Do you have preferred article marketing sites or is it better to use one or two sites only?

        What are your views?

        With thanks.

        Small Business Coach
        The best place to post your articles are your blog . So , I would advice that you create a blog and post your articles on your blog or your own property . Then you promote your blog using a variety of ways .
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      • Profile picture of the author AnthonyForex
        What about ZeroPark? Does anyone have some experience with them?
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  • Profile picture of the author MicahF7
    Well it sounds like you guys covered PPC, banner, and video so I wont say those things again!

    One other that you guys have NOT mentioned, is something I think I will be introducing to almost everyone, It is the adonnetwork.com. They do it all, almost any type of traffic/media buy... Things like, ppc, pop under, pop overs, RON, banner placement targeted and keyword targeted, SMS marketing.... I believe most all these things are placement targeted and keyword targeted... They have a ton of traffic sources!

    There are a few places like them: Traffic vance ( $500 - 1k deposit ), Media traffic ( I believe a $250 deposit), Zango ( no deposit ) and the adonnetwork ( no deposit )... Some are better then others as far as quality of traffic.

    I do stuff with them everyday with CPA.... They are great.

    ( No, they dont even have an aff program that I know of so that was not a plugin! )

    From begginers to what ever, they are a great source of daily, month income.


    Thanks,

    Micah Rush

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    • Profile picture of the author wallush
      Originally Posted by MicahF7 View Post

      Well it sounds like you guys covered PPC, banner, and video so I wont say those things again!

      One other that you guys have NOT mentioned, is something I think I will be introducing to almost everyone, It is the adonnetwork.com. They do it all, almost any type of traffic/media buy... Things like, ppc, pop under, pop overs, RON, banner placement targeted and keyword targeted, SMS marketing.... I believe most all these things are placement targeted and keyword targeted... They have a ton of traffic sources!

      There are a few places like them: Traffic vance ( $500 - 1k deposit ), Media traffic ( I believe a $250 deposit), Zango ( no deposit ) and the adonnetwork ( no deposit )... Some are better then others as far as quality of traffic.

      I do stuff with them everyday with CPA.... They are great.

      ( No, they dont even have an aff program that I know of so that was not a plugin! )

      From begginers to what ever, they are a great source of daily, month income.


      Thanks,

      Micah Rush

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      Good info. I will try it
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    • Profile picture of the author bnjaffiliates
      Originally Posted by MicahF7 View Post

      Well it sounds like you guys covered PPC, banner, and video so I wont say those things again!

      One other that you guys have NOT mentioned, is something I think I will be introducing to almost everyone, It is the adonnetwork.com. They do it all, almost any type of traffic/media buy... Things like, ppc, pop under, pop overs, RON, banner placement targeted and keyword targeted, SMS marketing.... I believe most all these things are placement targeted and keyword targeted... They have a ton of traffic sources!

      There are a few places like them: Traffic vance ( $500 - 1k deposit ), Media traffic ( I believe a $250 deposit), Zango ( no deposit ) and the adonnetwork ( no deposit )... Some are better then others as far as quality of traffic.

      I do stuff with them everyday with CPA.... They are great.

      ( No, they dont even have an aff program that I know of so that was not a plugin! )

      From begginers to what ever, they are a great source of daily, month income.


      Thanks,

      Micah Rush

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      Great post Micah - would love to get your advice re Adon Network, as I am just starting to work with them. Thanks. Ben
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by bnjaffiliates View Post

        Great post Micah - would love to get your advice re Adon Network, as I am just starting to work with them. Thanks. Ben
        Hi Ben ,

        Just search the forum and you are going to get lots free tips and guides on PPV .
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  • Profile picture of the author webpromotions
    Organic search all the way.
    Might not be the most popular answer because its the most difficult, but its the correct answer.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by Doug English View Post

      Organic search all the way.
      Might not be the most popular answer because its the most difficult, but its the correct answer.
      But , the problem with organic search is that -you must have a web established ( seo optimized ) site .

      Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author thegeneral777
      Originally Posted by Doug English View Post

      Organic search all the way.
      Might not be the most popular answer because its the most difficult, but its the correct answer.
      Hi Doug - Im fascinated with your answer "organic search"

      I can do SEO pretty well, and I have also dabbled in CPA offers. How do you combine the 2?

      At a guess you have an SEO'd landing page that redirects to the affiliated URL?

      Im really keen to hear your response. Many thanks.

      Sam
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by thegeneral777 View Post

        Hi Doug - Im fascinated with your answer "organic search"

        I can do SEO pretty well, and I have also dabbled in CPA offers. How do you combine the 2?

        At a guess you have an SEO'd landing page that redirects to the affiliated URL?

        Im really keen to hear your response. Many thanks.

        Sam
        If you have an established with good search engine placement , organic traffic is one of the best source of traffic sources for CPA offers . Because , traffic from the search engine is highly targeted .

        Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author mamu
      Originally Posted by Doug English View Post

      Organic search all the way.
      Might not be the most popular answer because its the most difficult, but its the correct answer.
      sir,can you tell me what is organic search,I am a noob,lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
    If I hate watching video promos so much then aren't there customers out there who feel the same way? Its way too slow to convey a message and way too hard to re reference something, compared to print. Or am I just a dinosaur because I still read newspapers and books?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
      Originally Posted by 105724 View Post

      If I hate watching video promos so much then aren't there customers out there who feel the same way? Its way too slow to convey a message and way too hard to re reference something, compared to print. Or am I just a dinosaur because I still read newspapers and books?
      That's why you need a variety of approaches. I agree some video promos are way too loooong.

      I think video has great potential but you need to hook 'em quick and hard.
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    PPC gives me the highest return but I prefer organic as it's passive and there's no need to manage it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jrapisarda
    By testing your cpa offers through ppc you can quickly determine which ones are even worth your time. Organic traffic requires time and time is money.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by jrapisarda View Post

      By testing your cpa offers through ppc you can quickly determine which ones are even worth your time. Organic traffic requires time and time is money.
      As you said even thogh traffic from organic serch engine results page is highly targeted and profitable , it is not fast way to generate traffic . But , if you have an established website well optimized and ranked high in the search engine monetizing your website with a CPA offfer is profitable.

      Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author dharma2u
    thank you all for the information.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Let me summarize on effective source for traffic generation for CPA offers .

    1. PPC

    2. Videos

    3. Targeted banners

    4. Adwords , including site placement and content network

    5. Organic search engine traffic , etc.

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author affgem
      PPC is one of the proven ways to drive traffic to CPA offers but I like free organic search engine traffic...
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  • Profile picture of the author bannor32
    I haven't had great luck with video, to be honest. It certainly drives lots of traffic, but I've had very few conversions with that traffic. Obviously there is potential there, since some are making a killing with video. I just haven't found the recipe as of yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    1.) PPC
    2.) PPV
    3.) Banner Spots
    4.) Classifieds

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    PPV banner spots
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    I did not test classified ads for CPA offers .

    But , I will test it soon .

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author affgem
      No doubt, PPC is the best way to get traffic to CPA offers but an optimized website can get good organic traffic. I prefer free organic search traffic.
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    media buys are something to look into when u have the money also
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  • Profile picture of the author prouser02
    I use various methods.

    top ones are:

    mini website

    Video Traffic

    and

    outsource small projects, which makes all the difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by Nabeel Chughtai View Post


      outsource
      Outsourcing is what makes the big difference .

      But , you have to use it properly to exploit its benefits .

      Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffm58
    Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    One of he hottest money maker nowadays is CPA .

    Now ,I want to discuss about the #1 most effective source of traffic for CPA offers.

    For me , even though I use multiple sources of traffic , #1 most effective source of traffic is PPC,specially Google Adwords .

    What about you.

    Which traffic source is binging you the most success with CPA offers?

    Mike
    I know one thing. If I'm making a killing with CPA and I have a great traffic source, I'm not posting it on a forum. I'm doing a rev share or something :-) Just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by jeffm58 View Post

      I'm not posting it on a forum
      May be you are thinking some thing different .

      Forums are one of the greatest tools in IM businesses.

      I don't think you miss this.

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author jeffm58
        Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

        May be you are thinking some thing different .

        Forums are one of the greatest tools in IM businesses.

        I don't think you miss this.

        Mike
        No I was saying if I've got a great method for CPA I'm not just going to reveal it on a public forum for all to see.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Killian
      Originally Posted by jeffm58 View Post

      I know one thing. If I'm making a killing with CPA and I have a great traffic source, I'm not posting it on a forum. I'm doing a rev share or something :-) Just my 2 cents.
      Then why did you post in the first place?
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  • Profile picture of the author caleb
    PPC with squeeze page seems pretty good as you are collecting emails to market to customer in the future
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    Let's say you have a product that google doesn't approve for adwords. What then is the most effective source of traffic for CPA?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by maymorgano View Post

      Let's say you have a product that google doesn't approve for adwords. What then is the most effective source of traffic for CPA?
      There are lots of ways .

      Some of them are
      • Videos
      • Targtted banners
      • Organic serch enigine traffic , etc.
      I hope it helps .

      Mike
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    PPC
    Videos
    Offline
    Articles
    Blogs
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesMcDowell
    Whitehat: PPC to CPA, media buys, banners
    Blackhat: PPV, Craigslist, Torrents, Social media spam

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by JamesMcDowell View Post

      Blackhat: PPV, Craigslist, Torrents, Social media spam

      -James
      These are for black hat marketers , but I usually do not practice them .

      Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
      Originally Posted by JamesMcDowell View Post

      Blackhat: PPV

      -James

      How is ppv considered bh? I'd like to here your reasons


      And media buys is simple terminology for buying advertising which can refer to anything.
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      • Profile picture of the author JamesMcDowell
        Originally Posted by Kyle L Hannah View Post

        How is ppv considered bh? I'd like to here your reasons


        And media buys is simple terminology for buying traffic which can refer to anything.
        99% of CPA networks wil not accept ppv and do deem it blackhat.

        -James
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        • Profile picture of the author aekaplan
          Sorry but what is PPV?
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          • Profile picture of the author emjayce
            Does anyone have an opinion on PPC Search vs. PPC Content Network for CPA offers? What do you find to be more profitable?
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            • Profile picture of the author Sipboy3000
              Originally Posted by emjayce View Post

              Does anyone have an opinion on PPC Search vs. PPC Content Network for CPA offers? What do you find to be more profitable?
              Personally, content network is more profitable. If you know how to setup campaigns properly, you can get very targeted traffic that converts just as good if not better than search traffic at a much cheaper rate.

              I use the content network on 80% of my adwords campaigns because I have developed a strategy that is very effective.

              Search and Content are two different animals. You need to put just as much training, testing, trial and error to learn the content network as you do for search. That is why it is more profitable for me. I have put in the effort to learn the science of being successful with the content network because I found early on that it is a goldmine if you know what you are doing.

              I hope that helps.
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                • Profile picture of the author Sipboy3000
                  Originally Posted by newbeginnings View Post

                  It would help if you detailed how you use the content network to make CPA offers profitable. Even a few tips. Why is everyone so secretive about their methods?
                  Actually I am not very secretive about my methods. I was just answering the question that was posed.

                  However, I am currently working on a product that teaches exactly how I use the content network.

                  A few tips to consider:
                  1. Always separate content and search campaigns.
                  2. Content campaigns are triggered at the adgroup level and are based on a group of keywords, unlike search which ads are triggered based on a single keyword.
                  3. Free trials, lead generation, squeeze pages, zip submits, etc. tend to work better on the content network because consumers are acting on impulse rather than being in search mode. Low cost products also work very well.
                  4. Ugly image ads have a higher click thru rate. It may sound silly, but I have tested this thoroughly. I believe it is because ugly image ads stand out on a page and draw attention. Every website wants their site to look pretty, so when you see an ugly ad, it sticks out like a sore thumb. The ad must also have a high sense of urgency and they will click. The destination you send them to is an entirely different story. That is where your conversion rates are affected. You gotta have a very compelling and implusive offer.
                  5. The content network is great for branding. If you have a company and you want to do some low cost branding, it's the perfect place to start.
                  Obviously there is way more information that I can cover on this. This is why I believe there is a demand for a product in which someone can teach the proper strategies for using the content network effectively.

                  I hope these few tips will help you get started. The content network is totally different from search, so learn as much as you can about how they differ.

                  I am building a list of names for my product review if anyone is interested. I am only going to pick about 20 people, so PM me if interested.
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                  • Profile picture of the author ishuin
                    Hello there,

                    I saw PPC being mentioned a lot of times. I'm completely new to PPC. What's the best way to get up to speed with PPC without going through all the mistakes that newbie would make? Any solid WSO that touches both the basics as well as the advanced that you wish you've bought earlier in your career? Thanks for any recommendations.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Hilal
                      Hi

                      Right now, Facebook is the winner for CPA marketing.

                      But it needs to be done the correct way, or you will lose much money.

                      With Facebook just promote free trials and free downloads.

                      Never promote PTS (Paid To Sale) products.

                      Build huge lists from Facebook, one list per niche.

                      Then send them to very related offers.

                      This is a goldmine!

                      Hilal
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                      • Profile picture of the author danz G
                        Originally Posted by Hilal View Post

                        Hi

                        Right now, Facebook is the winner for CPA marketing.

                        But it needs to be done the correct way, or you will lose much money.

                        With Facebook just promote free trials and free downloads.

                        Never promote PTS (Paid To Sale) products.

                        Build huge lists from Facebook, one list per niche.

                        Then send them to very related offers.

                        This is a goldmine!

                        Hilal
                        thats a great share,
                        i think this method still work.
                        did you still use it right now?
                        list building is a great way to do and we can make money by promote related offers
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                        • Profile picture of the author Hilal
                          Hi danz

                          Yes, this method works very good right now for me and
                          for some few CPA marketers.

                          The video in my sig shows a how it is very easy to use facebook
                          to build a list of very targeted 60,000 people in just few days.

                          I know this is something like magic, but it is true!

                          If you can forward this huge list to just VERY RELATED CPA offers,
                          you, can make a living online.

                          Just forward them to offers that do NOT need credit cards,
                          like free downloads, surveys, and short form offers.

                          ALL CPA networks include such offers!

                          I hope this will help.

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                          Originally Posted by danz G View Post

                          thats a great share,
                          i think this method still work.
                          did you still use it right now?
                          list building is a great way to do and we can make money by promote related offers
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                    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
                      Originally Posted by ishuin View Post

                      Hello there,

                      I saw PPC being mentioned a lot of times. I'm completely new to PPC. What's the best way to get up to speed with PPC without going through all the mistakes that newbie would make? Any solid WSO that touches both the basics as well as the advanced that you wish you've bought earlier in your career? Thanks for any recommendations.

                      There is a lot to learn if you are going the PPC route as you really need to be versed in many areas such as tracking, testing, bidding strategies, landing page development etc. There are many great WSOs out there, but since it truly is a wide field, its hard to get all the information you need into a $20 WSO. There are some big courses or membership sites that will be more helpful, but of course are much more money.

                      So buying a few WSOs to learn the ropes may be a good idea. I think Mike Morgan, William, and Chad have some WSOs that people have spoken highly about though I don't think I have read them myself! May be worth a look though.

                      Lots of people earning big bucks in PPC...hope you are there in the winners circle as well!
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                      • Profile picture of the author ishuin
                        Hey Kenster,

                        Thanks for your advice! I wonder, did you learn about PPC the hard way?

                        Cheers!
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                        • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
                          Originally Posted by ishuin View Post

                          Hey Kenster,

                          Thanks for your advice! I wonder, did you learn about PPC the hard way?

                          Cheers!
                          I do agree with Kenster .

                          Even though PPC is highly effective source of traffic generation , in order to exploit its benefits , you have to know and master it completely . And , as it has been by kenster , PPC is not about reading one or two WSO.
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                          • Profile picture of the author ishuin
                            Thank you for the advice, Mike. I agree that I've to get my hands dirty to learn PPC inside out. But I was hoping to avoid the stupid mistakes (and burn cash unnecessarily) that newbie usually tend to make. So a primer on PPC to avoid those mistakes could be valuable.
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                            • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
                              Originally Posted by ishuin View Post

                              Thank you for the advice, Mike. I agree that I've to get my hands dirty to learn PPC inside out. But I was hoping to avoid the stupid mistakes (and burn cash unnecessarily) that newbie usually tend to make. So a primer on PPC to avoid those mistakes could be valuable.
                              In order to efficiently use PPC to drive highly targeted traffic to your website and make massive sales, you need to focus on the 9 core PPC components:

                              These are:


                              1. Finding the Most Profitable Keywords;

                              2. Writing a Powerful and Compelling Ad Copy;

                              3. Bidding for Optimum Spot which brings Optimum ROI;

                              4. Targeting your ad so as to reach the right audiences for your products or services ;

                              5. Testing and Tracking

                              6. Developing and optimizing highly powerful landing page ;

                              7. Proper account organization;

                              8. Managing your account effectively and efficiently ;

                              9. How to boost Quality Score.

                              These are the most important parts that you need to study and master.


                              Hope it helps.

                              Mike
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                              • Profile picture of the author BILLSBILLION
                                Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

                                In order to efficiently use PPC to drive highly targeted traffic to your website and make massive sales, you need to focus on the 9 core PPC components:

                                These are:


                                1. Finding the Most Profitable Keywords;

                                2. Writing a Powerful and Compelling Ad Copy;

                                3. Bidding for Optimum Spot which brings Optimum ROI;

                                4. Targeting your ad so as to reach the right audiences for your products or services ;

                                5. Testing and Tracking

                                6. Developing and optimizing highly powerful landing page ;

                                7. Proper account organization;

                                8. Managing your account effectively and efficiently ;

                                9. How to boost Quality Score.

                                These are the most important parts that you need to study and master.


                                Hope it helps.

                                Mike
                                Mike,
                                That is great If you have your own website,but how do you send adwords traffic to a campaign(say a third party campaign),since we cant direct link,what strategies do you use there?
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                                • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
                                  Originally Posted by BILLSBILLION View Post

                                  Mike,
                                  That is great If you have your own website,but how do you send adwords traffic to a campaign(say a third party campaign),since we cant direct link,what strategies do you use there?
                                  If you are serious and want to make the most from Google Adwords , don't ever think of direct linking .

                                  At the moment , I am mostly using Adwords to build a list .
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                                  • Profile picture of the author soboer
                                    Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

                                    If you are serious and want to make the most from Google Adwords , don't ever think of direct linking .

                                    At the moment , I am mostly using Adwords to build a list .
                                    Hi Mike can you explain how you build a list with adwords.
                                    I read its against their TOS to collect emails with a free report or something like that.
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                                    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
                                      Originally Posted by soboer View Post

                                      Hi Mike can you explain how you build a list with adwords.
                                      I read its against their TOS to collect emails with a free report or something like that.
                                      If you build sites which are solely aimed at building list , Google will not like it .

                                      So, if you really want to create a real business through Google Adwords, make sure that you create a website that Google loves.
                                      Google loves sites and pages …

                                      · With real value
                                      · Unique
                                      · Helpful
                                      · Transparent

                                      Google generally hates the so called "Non useful sites", sites, which does not give value to their visitors. Google Also hates sites which don’t comply with FTC rules.

                                      Hope that helps.
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                                      • Profile picture of the author soboer
                                        Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

                                        If you build sites which are solely aimed at building list , Google will not like it .

                                        So, if you really want to create a real business through Google Adwords, make sure that you create a website that Google loves.
                                        Google loves sites and pages …
                                        · With real value
                                        · Unique
                                        · Helpful
                                        · Transparent
                                        Google generally hates the so called "Non useful sites", sites, which does not give value to their visitors. Google Also hates sites which don’t comply with FTC rules.
                                        Hope that helps.
                                        But how do you get a high opt in rate.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author BILLSBILLION
                                    Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

                                    If you are serious and want to make the most from Google Adwords , don't ever think of direct linking .

                                    At the moment , I am mostly using Adwords to build a list .
                                    Mike,
                                    Have you tried white labeling a CPA campaign??
                                    Supposed to work well.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Kenster
                              Originally Posted by ishuin View Post

                              Thank you for the advice, Mike. I agree that I've to get my hands dirty to learn PPC inside out. But I was hoping to avoid the stupid mistakes (and burn cash unnecessarily) that newbie usually tend to make. So a primer on PPC to avoid those mistakes could be valuable.


                              Yep, I lost a lot of money at first testing out PPC. It's a tough game for newbies unless you are prepared. So unlike many things where I encourage people to jump into the fire and figure things out....I think with PPC you really should only dip your toe into the fire and do lots of learning before sticking any more of your body parts in.

                              Its very unforgiving

                              but the upside potential is ginormous!
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                  • Profile picture of the author junkdna
                    Originally Posted by Sipboy3000 View Post

                    1. Free trials, lead generation, squeeze pages, zip submits, etc. tend to work better on the content network because consumers are acting on impulse rather than being in search mode. Low cost products also work very well.
                    Please correct me if I am wrong, but aren't almost all of the above forbidden by Google? Is it possible that G is less strict with content network than with search ads? Are the content text ads better than image banner ads?
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            • Profile picture of the author ajal
              PPC Search generates more targeted traffic than PPC Content Network. PPC. this is due to the fact that your ad will only show to those who seach for words related to your ad keyword which inturn will eliminate unwanted clicks on ur ad. i use ppc seach for my CPA and i have very good impressive clicks.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
                Originally Posted by ajal View Post

                PPC Search generates more targeted traffic than PPC Content Network. PPC. this is due to the fact that your ad will only show to those who seach for words related to your ad keyword which inturn will eliminate unwanted clicks on ur ad. i use ppc seach for my CPA and i have very good impressive clicks.
                If you know how to do it right both search and content based searches are very effective .

                Mike
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                • Profile picture of the author Sipboy3000
                  Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

                  If you know how to do it right both search and content based searches are very effective .

                  Mike
                  I agree with you Mike.

                  I actually do quite well using the content network.

                  If you really think about how vast the content network is, you can't find a place to get more exposure for potential traffic than Google's content network.

                  I don't have anything against search, I just think people tend to write off the content network because they don't understand how to use it.

                  It is actually better for me right now because the competition is not as high and clicks come at much cheaper price.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
                Originally Posted by ajal View Post

                PPC Search generates more targeted traffic than PPC Content Network. PPC. this is due to the fact that your ad will only show to those who seach for words related to your ad keyword which inturn will eliminate unwanted clicks on ur ad. i use ppc seach for my CPA and i have very good impressive clicks.
                Do not take it for granted .

                PPC marketing is targeted and effective only if you do it the right way .

                Mike
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          • Profile picture of the author redsymbol
            Originally Posted by aekaplan View Post

            Sorry but what is PPV?
            The acronym stands for "Pay per view". Which sounds nice enough, but masks what it really is: adware.

            It works by getting a PPV program installed on the user's computer. Sometimes this program is something that the user installs voluntarily, because it has some other feature they want, and they perhaps don't realize that it also will run ads. Or it's disguised as something else, like a free video game. But it can also be a flat-out virus that installs itself forcibly, without the computer's owner being aware at all.

            Once the PPV program is installed, when the user visits certain sites, or searches on google.com for certain keywords, a new window will pop up containing the marketed website. Each such window pop-up is a "view". The marketer pays per "view" to the people who wrote the adware program/virus.

            Since sometimes the user installs the PPV adware voluntarily, some marketers rationalize it as being ok and not black-hat. I don't; if the user really knew what they were getting into by installing it, they wouldn't.

            More information:
            natespost.com/index.php/ppv-pay-per-view-marketing/

            (BTW, to be clear, PPV is not the same as paying per ad impression on a website that serves ads. Which is totally legit.)
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            • Profile picture of the author Gaurav Duggal
              Originally Posted by redsymbol View Post

              The acronym stands for "Pay per view". Which sounds nice enough, but masks what it really is: adware.

              It works by getting a PPV program installed on the user's computer. Sometimes this program is something that the user installs voluntarily, because it has some other feature they want, and they perhaps don't realize that it also will run ads. Or it's disguised as something else, like a free video game. But it can also be a flat-out virus that installs itself forcibly, without the computer's owner being aware at all.

              Once the PPV program is installed, when the user visits certain sites, or searches on google.com for certain keywords, a new window will pop up containing the marketed website. Each such window pop-up is a "view". The marketer pays per "view" to the people who wrote the adware program/virus.

              Since sometimes the user installs the PPV adware voluntarily, some marketers rationalize it as being ok and not black-hat. I don't; if the user really knew what they were getting into by installing it, they wouldn't.

              More information:
              natespost.com/index.php/ppv-pay-per-view-marketing/

              (BTW, to be clear, PPV is not the same as paying per ad impression on a website that serves ads. Which is totally legit.)

              Thanks a lot for that explanation. I was wondering what PPV was. And for the record, i hate those damn PPV using programs.

              Anyhow, with regards to the topic, PPC for long tail searches and SEO + article marketing for the more competitive words. Thats the combo that seems to work best for me
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        • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
          Originally Posted by JamesMcDowell View Post

          99% of CPA networks wil not accept ppv and do deem it blackhat.

          -James

          James,

          That's not true at all. In fact the majority of networks are completely fine with contextual ads. You may want to check on that again.

          Cheers!
          - Kyle
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          • Profile picture of the author pauljeaston
            So true! Maxbounty accepts ppv
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          • Profile picture of the author All Night Cafe
            Media buys, banners, short videos and squeeze pages.
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          • Profile picture of the author AlexKann
            Originally Posted by Kyle L Hannah View Post

            James,

            That's not true at all. In fact the majority of networks are completely fine with contextual ads. You may want to check on that again.

            Cheers!
            - Kyle

            Absolutely, I don't think even 20% of CPA networks don't allow PPV traffic


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          • Profile picture of the author Marc2008
            I know many will disagree, but I like organic search engine traffic. Not saying it's the easiest, but once I rank I can move on to other offers.
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          • Profile picture of the author Saluki Guy
            Right now for me it's...
            1. Facebook tool bar downloads, ringtones myspace, etc.
            2. PPC
            3. offline stuff
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          • Profile picture of the author JavierElenes
            Originally Posted by Kyle L Hannah View Post

            James,

            That's not true at all. In fact the majority of networks are completely fine with contextual ads. You may want to check on that again.

            Cheers!
            - Kyle


            You're right, actually I just know of a couple cpa networks that don't accept PPV, I think it's the opposite, 99% of networks do accept PPV

            it's more about the particular offer/advertiser not the network.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sham Cristie
            Does Traffic Brokering Work? And If So is there a step by step blue print to get website to broker traffic to your CPA Offers?
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        • Profile picture of the author BreakTheIce
          Thats not true... most of the popular networks have offers for contextual traffic.
          Originally Posted by JamesMcDowell View Post

          99% of CPA networks wil not accept ppv and do deem it BlueFart.

          -James
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  • Profile picture of the author llott
    Anyone care to share a link to a video that has been successful at driving converting traffic to CPA offers. I have not had any luck with them, but would love to see a winning formula.
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    • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
      Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

      I am turning to CPA now and I think VIDEOS are going to be very hot source of traffic ... I even heard Luke Sample likes doing videos amongst other things for his traffic!

      -Lakshay
      Originally Posted by motivebrendan View Post

      I have tried video as a traffic source - i think you are right it will be a good way to drive but i did not have luck with it. It's part of the future but not now..
      Originally Posted by llott View Post

      Anyone care to share a link to a video that has been successful at driving converting traffic to CPA offers. I have not had any luck with them, but would love to see a winning formula.
      I've been testing videos and had no luck in my first niche using Youtube. One video, over 20,000 hits per month and nil conversions. It's a quality video, watermarked with web site URL. Clickthru about 1% to a CPA offer.

      Youtube for my niche appears to attract 'lookers'. Then again, I'll probably try another niche.
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    PPC, banners, and articles
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  • Profile picture of the author webbizwidgets
    I'm doing a test now using Wordpress Direct. I'll let you know how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Originally Posted by Sean Hoffman View Post

    If you are interested in something a bit grey hat I'd recommend that you check out my latest WSO.


    See link in signature.
    it looks indirect blatant ad .

    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Originally Posted by fazee View Post

    Hell yea, PPC traffic is the best, but it requires investment, and not everybody has that!

    So it is good if u have money.

    You do not need a big investment to start PPC.

    Just start with small amount and re-invest from your profit .

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by ArthurRose View Post

      Most effective - adwords, but only if you find a really good keyphrase and your offer converts like crazy.
      Finding keywords and good offer is not the only factor that you need in order to success in adwords .

      Adwords success is a combination of multiple factors .

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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by jodib View Post

        Mike,

        Multiple Factors - Can you elaborate Please,

        Thanks,
        In addition to what is said , Here are the main points you need to focus in building successful Google adwords campaign ,

        1. Finding the Most Profitable Keywords;

        2. Writing a Powerful and Compelling Ad Copy;

        3. Bidding for Optimum Spot which brings Optimum ROI;

        4. Targeting your ad so as to reach the right audiences for your products or services ;

        5. Developing and optimizing highly powerful landing page ;

        6. Proper account organization;

        7. Managing your account effectively and efficiently ;

        8. Quality Score Boosting Strategy , etc.

        Now, to get the most you have to use and coordinate all these components properly .

        I hope this helps .

        Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author Thomas Belknap
          Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

          In addition to what is said , Here are the main points you need to focus in building successful Google adwords campaign ,

          1. Finding the Most Profitable Keywords;

          2. Writing a Powerful and Compelling Ad Copy;

          3. Bidding for Optimum Spot which brings Optimum ROI;

          4. Targeting your ad so as to reach the right audiences for your products or services ;

          5. Developing and optimizing highly powerful landing page ;

          6. Proper account organization;

          7. Managing your account effectively and efficiently ;

          8. Quality Score Boosting Strategy , etc.

          Now, to get the most you have to use and coordinate all these components properly .

          I hope this helps .

          Mike

          Don't forget cashflow Mike. Once you find that winning campaign you need to crank it up. You won't make any money if you don't have the available funds if using PPC.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            Don't forget cashflow Mike. Once you find that winning campaign you need to crank it up. You won't make any money if you don't have the available funds if using PPC.
            I agree with you Thomas.

            As you said cranking is the key .

            Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by JMusto0223 View Post

      I actually prefer using facebook PPC the most. You don't have to mess around with keywords. You make a good adcopy to get your CTR % high enough and the clicks can be quite cheap...
      The point that you should note here is that , it is not only cheap traffic and CTR that determines your success .

      The most important think is ROI .

      The traffic you get must be highly targeted that can easily be converted to Cash.

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    To me PPC is the best
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  • Profile picture of the author ryansjones
    You could try using traffic exchanges. I've gotten a buttload of clicks for offers that I posted on them. The only downside that I am aware of to traffic exchanges is that the conversion rate tends to be low.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by ryansjones View Post

      You could try using traffic exchanges. I've gotten a buttload of clicks for offers that I posted on them. The only downside that I am aware of to traffic exchanges is that the conversion rate tends to be low.
      Even though I did not test traffic exchange for CPA offers , it seems for me that it is really not effective in in terms of time invested .

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Originally Posted by John David. View Post

    There are also lots of black hat techniques which are effective , but dangerous , as they could be a reason for suspension of your account .

    John
    I agree that most black hat techniques are dangerous and could get your account suspended .

    Therefore , if you are using black hat - be careful .

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    • Profile picture of the author webpromotions
      Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

      I agree that most black hat techniques are dangerous and could get your account suspended .

      Therefore , if you are using black hat - be careful .

      Mike
      How can you make a reply like that?

      Thats basically saying "if you are doing something you shouldn't be doing, make sure you don't get caught, because then its OK".

      Wouldn't a proper reply be "don't do that crap!" ?

      This kind of attitude just makes CPA harder for the ones who want to do it legit. This is exactly why there are so many threads here from people asking why they have such a hard time getting accepted into certain CPA networks.
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      • Profile picture of the author cowboyrob
        This post was spot-on, Doug. I appreciate legitimate business practices.

        To me, the most effective traffic source can be subjective in nature. While a "blackhat" way of advertising a CPA offer may be extremely profitable (for the short-term, mind you), it isn't exactly the most "effective" for my all-around goal. My all-around goal would be to conduct a business in a way that I can be proud of.

        The general rule of thumb that I like to stick to is, "If I can't tell my mom about it on the phone, I shouldn't be doing it."

        Anyway... for me, article marketing is the most effective traffic source.

        Originally Posted by Doug English View Post

        Thats basically saying "if you are doing something you shouldn't be doing, make sure you don't get caught, because then its OK".

        Wouldn't a proper reply be "don't do that crap!" ?

        This kind of attitude just makes CPA harder for the ones who want to do it legit. This is exactly why there are so many threads here from people asking why they have such a hard time getting accepted into certain CPA networks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tony Vercetti
        Originally Posted by Doug English View Post

        How can you make a reply like that?

        Thats basically saying "if you are doing something you shouldn't be doing, make sure you don't get caught, because then its OK".

        Wouldn't a proper reply be "don't do that crap!" ?

        This kind of attitude just makes CPA harder for the ones who want to do it legit. This is exactly why there are so many threads here from people asking why they have such a hard time getting accepted into certain CPA networks.
        Blackhat doesnt have to mean "blatantly ripping off the network". There are many blackhat methods, that while could be considered "unconventional" still bring in real leads to the merchant.

        And the networks and merchants themselves are extreeeeeemely far from being 100% "whitehat" themselves. When you get 25-75% of your leads shaved on a certain offer, what do you call that? A "legitimate business practice" indeed lol.

        What about those "FREE TRIAL!!" offers, which have a text at the bottom of the page in 2 pt font saying "If you do not cancel your trial in 3 days, you will be charged $19379824091.32 a month forever blah blah". Is that considered "ethical" for the customers too?

        Im not condoning blatant theft, but it should be known that its not only the affiliates which practice "blackhat" methods.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
          Originally Posted by Tony Vercetti View Post


          Blackhat doesnt have to mean "blatantly ripping off the network". There are many blackhat methods, that while could be considered "unconventional" still bring in real leads to the merchant.
          I have nothing to say more .

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          Originally Posted by Tony Vercetti View Post

          Blackhat doesnt have to mean "blatantly ripping off the network". There are many blackhat methods, that while could be considered "unconventional" still bring in real leads to the merchant.
          I don't know why some have recently decided to use the term blackhat to correspond to 'creative but allowed' methods.

          Look up the origins of blackhat from its start in the old cowboy days. Bad, evil....
          Look up the origins of blackhat in the context of SEO. Ask Matt Cutts what he thinks of blackhat seo.

          If these 'unconventional' methods were not against the rules of the particular CPA network in question and were bringing in 'real leads', then its not blackhat, and more importantly, you'd have absolutely NO reason to hide what you are doing, or to 'be careful' like was originally suggested.

          These CPA networks are only trying to protect themselves AND their advertisers - the very people who some of you are making a living from. If you aren't following their rules and TOS, then it just isn't right, and I don't know how anyone could even begin to make an argument against that.
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  • Profile picture of the author sony_isser
    PPC is the best way above all.
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  • Profile picture of the author sweetrock82
    traffic from yahoo answers is very targeted...
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by sweetrock82 View Post

      traffic from yahoo answers is very targeted...
      Even though traffic from yahoo answers is very targeted , it is not lucrative as compared to other traffic generation sources like PPC marketing .

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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Lewin
    I personally have had the most success with PPC traffic so far. early days yet though
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    ppc and articles
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe's Market
      For offers that will last over time the best option is to start the campaign with PPC and build solid organic traffic forever. This will require some effort in the beginning but create campaigns that will generate income hands free for the future.

      Best to all

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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by Joe's Market View Post

        For offers that will last over time the best option is to start the campaign with PPC and build solid organic traffic forever. This will require some effort in the beginning but create campaigns that will generate income hands free for the future.

        Best to all

        Joe
        Combination of PPC and SEO is a good strategy . While one is best for short term basis , you can still use both of them for long term basis.

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  • Profile picture of the author taylor44
    So PPC Still Rules The Day
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  • Profile picture of the author chebe21
    I guess Organic traffic will do great for CPA offers,

    you eran 1 usd and it cost nothing, but a little of time and pattience
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by chebe21 View Post

      I guess Organic traffic will do great for CPA offers,

      you eran 1 usd and it cost nothing, but a little of time and pattience
      As organic traffic is a source of highly targeted traffic , it is very effective - but the problem is not very instant .

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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    My best source has been Yahoo Answers
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by dndoseller View Post

      My best source has been Yahoo Answers
      Of course Yahoo answers is one of the easiest ways to drive traffic .

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    • Profile picture of the author gundammeister
      Originally Posted by dndoseller View Post

      My best source has been Yahoo Answers
      How many answers do you post a day and how much traffic do you get?
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      Originally Posted by just84 View Post

      i think traffic from search engines because it will e high quality traffic
      As you said traffic from the search engine is highly targeted , but for if your website is new , you are going to take time until you position your site in to the top search engine ranking .

      SO, I highly recommend that you incorporate short term and long term traffic methods so as to get the most from your efforts . Traffic sources mentioned earlier , such as PPC is good for short term traffic sources.

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  • Profile picture of the author merigot123
    It all going to depend on the offer and also the requirement of the offer promotion. I have been using a lot of Youtube Videos in my promotions. Creating free Wordpress blogs with targeted keywords. I have have used Craiglist a lot, banners and Media Buys.
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      Originally Posted by merigot123 View Post

      It all going to depend on the offer and also the requirement of the offer promotion.
      It is impornat to know that you have to use specific techniques for each offer you use .


      Originally Posted by merigot123 View Post

      Creating free Wordpress blogs with targeted keywords.
      This system works only if you make proper keyword research .

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      • Profile picture of the author 4uonlinebiz
        Personally, i used Video source not only from Youtube, but from other source as well. Unfortunatelly, the results are not so good.
        For that reason, the best source is still PPC (but you can use not only Adwords).
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    ysm and msn adcenter with a bit of seo
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    • Profile picture of the author Adbeat
      PPC content networks text/image ads are the most profitable source of traffic due to the huge volume available. The only source that has more potential are media buys.
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      • Profile picture of the author AlexKann
        Originally Posted by ppclabs View Post

        PPC content networks text/image ads are the most profitable source of traffic due to the huge volume available. The only source that has more potential are media buys.

        Thats right

        I only use adwords in the content network, it's way cheaper and still targeted.

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by nzdealer View Post

      ysm and msn adcenter with a bit of seo
      YSM( yahoo search marketing and MSN Adcenter are two great source of highly targeted traffic .

      But , make sure to use them properly so as to get the most from them .

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  • Profile picture of the author keith88
    Media buys, PPC and banners are good
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by keith88 View Post

      Media buys, PPC and banners are good
      Yeah .

      As you said these are very effective , but make sure that you implement them properly so as to get the most from your efforts and investment .

      But , these may not be suitable for those who want a free traffic .

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  • Profile picture of the author sajae102
    So I see everyone keeps saying PPC. What I don't like about PPC is that they cost way too much, and it can take over 3-7 days to see any profit or to break even. I think social networking, article marketing, and other methods are the best way to get traffic to your CPA campaign. its all about Backlinks and how much you can get in one day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Killian
      Originally Posted by sajae102 View Post

      So I see everyone keeps saying PPC. What I don't like about PPC is that they cost way too much, and it can take over 3-7 days to see any profit or to break even. I think social networking, article marketing, and other methods are the best way to get traffic to your CPA campaign. its all about Backlinks and how much you can get in one day.
      I agree with the cost for PPC, but the other methods you mentioned could take even longer to pay off, or build up, Plus it can often be hit or miss. With PPC, it pretty much instant, constant traffic, just like you said though, takes time to find the winners.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by sajae102 View Post

      So I see everyone keeps saying PPC. What I don't like about PPC is that they cost way too much, and it can take over 3-7 days to see any profit or to break even. I think social networking, article marketing, and other methods are the best way to get traffic to your CPA campaign. its all about Backlinks and how much you can get in one day.
      I still believe PPC is the most effective source of targeted traffic to CPA offers .

      But , the other ways you mentioned are also good sources if traffic .

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  • Profile picture of the author SFranklin
    I just read about u-tube advertising and I can't wait to try it out. I love free traffic!
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by SFranklin View Post

      I just read about u-tube advertising and I can't wait to try it out. I love free traffic!
      u-tube is great for generating traffic to your CPA offers .

      But , you need to be aware that "the offer" you select has great impact on your results .

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  • Profile picture of the author Tensor
    For those using PPC for CPA what type of margins do you look for (CPC and EPC)?

    What is considered a good CPC, conversion rate and CPA for a successful campaign?

    ex) $0.35 CPC, 20% conversion rate on a $2 CPA offer would be typical (14% ROI)?
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesBlack
    PPC is good (if you do it right), Videos are the next generation lead
    capture. I think training videos are going to emerge bigger than
    ever for loyalty. Just my take on it...
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by JamesBlack View Post

      PPC is good (if you do it right), Videos are the next generation lead
      capture. I think training videos are going to emerge bigger than
      ever for loyalty. Just my take on it...
      I agree with you that videos will be the next generation of media on the internet . This is true due to the overwhelming power of videos to transfer message efficiently .

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  • Profile picture of the author TonyDJackson
    This is kinda funny. You all have covered every conceivable traffic source in this thread. Bottom line... there is NO perfect traffic source and NO EASY way to drive traffic (unless you have a huge budget or just hit the right sweet spot).

    When I went through the Arbitrage Conspiracy course, there was a guy named Anthony who was putting up like 20 campaigns PER DAY! After something like 300 campaigns, he found a golden nugget, ramped it up and is now making huge money in CPA. The point is, he risked it all, spent massive amounts of money on his credit cards and hit the gold mine.

    I am convinced that I could easily find a golden nugget today, put it together and have it profitable in 2-4 weeks using PPC, but I would probably LOSE 5-10K before I became profitable. That is called the cost of doing business.

    And I think jeffm58 is right... with all that it takes to win big in CPA (like any business) do you think that Anthony is going to come on this forum and tell us exactly how he did it. Not gonna happen.

    My advice (for what it is worth)... keep your day job.
    Study campaigns on Google and Yahoo for 4-6 weeks in your preferred niche.
    See which landing pages have staying power, build a similar landing page.
    Research and write articles to drive natural traffic (the best way to do this is to BUY the product you want to promote and make sure it is legit, and then write about the business model, etc.)
    Use social networking, bookmarks, etc.
    Write lots of posts on Squidoo and Hubpages.
    Write a good Press Release and use PRWeb.
    Some of this will cost money. It is all hard work. On the web, there is no more free and easy ride.
    BTW... I haven't used PPV, but I am considering it. I have a feeling though that, as some have said in this thread, it is still going to depend on LP, offer, keywords, etc. The ONLY way to know with anything is to test, test & test some more.

    Hope that helps!

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by TonyDJackson View Post

      This is kinda funny. You all have covered every conceivable traffic source in this thread. Bottom line... there is NO perfect traffic source and NO EASY way to drive traffic (unless you have a huge budget or just hit the right sweet spot).

      When I went through the Arbitrage Conspiracy course, there was a guy named Anthony who was putting up like 20 campaigns PER DAY! After something like 300 campaigns, he found a golden nugget, ramped it up and is now making huge money in CPA. The point is, he risked it all, spent massive amounts of money on his credit cards and hit the gold mine.

      I am convinced that I could easily find a golden nugget today, put it together and have it profitable in 2-4 weeks using PPC, but I would probably LOSE 5-10K before I became profitable. That is called the cost of doing business.

      And I think jeffm58 is right... with all that it takes to win big in CPA (like any business) do you think that Anthony is going to come on this forum and tell us exactly how he did it. Not gonna happen.

      My advice (for what it is worth)... keep your day job.
      Study campaigns on Google and Yahoo for 4-6 weeks in your preferred niche.
      See which landing pages have staying power, build a similar landing page.
      Research and write articles to drive natural traffic (the best way to do this is to BUY the product you want to promote and make sure it is legit, and then write about the business model, etc.)
      Use social networking, bookmarks, etc.
      Write lots of posts on Squidoo and Hubpages.
      Write a good Press Release and use PRWeb.
      Some of this will cost money. It is all hard work. On the web, there is no more free and easy ride.
      BTW... I haven't used PPV, but I am considering it. I have a feeling though that, as some have said in this thread, it is still going to depend on LP, offer, keywords, etc. The ONLY way to know with anything is to test, test & test some more.

      Hope that helps!

      Tony
      Nice Comment , Tony .

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      • Profile picture of the author digabot
        Amazing how the only types of Traffic everyone is using is traffic that is not guaranteed and purchased through an open auction where there is no barrier to entry.

        You work hard to develop margins and then anyone can come along, not know what they're doing and take your margins away by overbidding. They eventually go away and your margins are back and then a new crop comes in. It's insane.

        The fact that you can "overbid and then lower your bids as you build "Quality Score"" is a freaking waste of time too. You can only drop your bids as low as the person's bid under you. You will NEVER pay less than the 2nd best bidder (as was explained in Google's own video on the Search Auction system).

        Why not buy guaranteed traffic and then control your costs from the start by being a better marketer?

        Media Buys is the only way. What would you do with $.15 diet clicks and no quality score?

        Mass Markets is where the money is. Penetrating those markets with Search is a waste of time and money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sowemimo Oladele
      Originally Posted by TonyDJackson View Post

      This is kinda funny. You all have covered every conceivable traffic source in this thread. Bottom line... there is NO perfect traffic source and NO EASY way to drive traffic (unless you have a huge budget or just hit the right sweet spot).

      When I went through the Arbitrage Conspiracy course, there was a guy named Anthony who was putting up like 20 campaigns PER DAY! After something like 300 campaigns, he found a golden nugget, ramped it up and is now making huge money in CPA. The point is, he risked it all, spent massive amounts of money on his credit cards and hit the gold mine.

      I am convinced that I could easily find a golden nugget today, put it together and have it profitable in 2-4 weeks using PPC, but I would probably LOSE 5-10K before I became profitable. That is called the cost of doing business.

      And I think jeffm58 is right... with all that it takes to win big in CPA (like any business) do you think that Anthony is going to come on this forum and tell us exactly how he did it. Not gonna happen.

      My advice (for what it is worth)... keep your day job.
      Study campaigns on Google and Yahoo for 4-6 weeks in your preferred niche.
      See which landing pages have staying power, build a similar landing page.
      Research and write articles to drive natural traffic (the best way to do this is to BUY the product you want to promote and make sure it is legit, and then write about the business model, etc.)
      Use social networking, bookmarks, etc.
      Write lots of posts on Squidoo and Hubpages.
      Write a good Press Release and use PRWeb.
      Some of this will cost money. It is all hard work. On the web, there is no more free and easy ride.
      BTW... I haven't used PPV, but I am considering it. I have a feeling though that, as some have said in this thread, it is still going to depend on LP, offer, keywords, etc. The ONLY way to know with anything is to test, test & test some more.

      Hope that helps!

      Tony
      Good info Tony...As I will never advice a newbie to jump into PPC. First start with organic searches and videos then after hitting it big , you go for PPC to catch it much bigger :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert_Rand
      Originally Posted by TonyDJackson View Post

      This is kinda funny. You all have covered every conceivable traffic source in this thread. Bottom line... there is NO perfect traffic source and NO EASY way to drive traffic (unless you have a huge budget or just hit the right sweet spot).

      When I went through the Arbitrage Conspiracy course, there was a guy named Anthony who was putting up like 20 campaigns PER DAY! After something like 300 campaigns, he found a golden nugget, ramped it up and is now making huge money in CPA. The point is, he risked it all, spent massive amounts of money on his credit cards and hit the gold mine.

      I am convinced that I could easily find a golden nugget today, put it together and have it profitable in 2-4 weeks using PPC, but I would probably LOSE 5-10K before I became profitable. That is called the cost of doing business.

      And I think jeffm58 is right... with all that it takes to win big in CPA (like any business) do you think that Anthony is going to come on this forum and tell us exactly how he did it. Not gonna happen.

      My advice (for what it is worth)... keep your day job.
      Study campaigns on Google and Yahoo for 4-6 weeks in your preferred niche.
      See which landing pages have staying power, build a similar landing page.
      Research and write articles to drive natural traffic (the best way to do this is to BUY the product you want to promote and make sure it is legit, and then write about the business model, etc.)
      Use social networking, bookmarks, etc.
      Write lots of posts on Squidoo and Hubpages.
      Write a good Press Release and use PRWeb.
      Some of this will cost money. It is all hard work. On the web, there is no more free and easy ride.
      BTW... I haven't used PPV, but I am considering it. I have a feeling though that, as some have said in this thread, it is still going to depend on LP, offer, keywords, etc. The ONLY way to know with anything is to test, test & test some more.

      Hope that helps!

      Tony
      Tony, that's a good post buddy but I have to say... in my experience it's pretty much the exact opposite. Myself and most other SuperAffiliates that I know go into a niche to win. If it's a niche where you can see people are succeeding then there's no reason to move on. Sure, you might have to tweak your campaign, landing page or find a better offer but it comes down to optimizing a campaign and making it work. It sounds like Anthony didn't do to much of that and just kinda got lucky after awhile. Hell, I like the action on his part - love it actually, but I just wanted to point that out. And yes, you're right getting a campaign profitable will often cost a little bit of money but there are ways to shortcut that. Also agree about testing - that's the name of the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryansarnold
    I believe if you can get an organic search should
    be your first step for traffic because of cost.

    Really the best source is the one that works for you.
    Whatever that is.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by bryansarnold View Post

      I believe if you can get an organic search should
      be your first step for traffic because of cost.
      Hey bryans,

      There is one important point that you need to know here - in order to get a consistent traffic organic search engine results page you need to optimize your site properly . And , this usually takes time and resource .

      So , for instant results it is better to go with other traffic regeneration source like videos .

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  • Profile picture of the author Joseterz
    PPC works fine for me......particularly Google Adwords. Yet to try yahoo and MSN.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by cpamaster View Post

      IMO PPC traffic is best for CPA because it's very targetted.You won't have problems with the network either.
      Hey cpamaster,

      I completely agree.

      For me number one choice is PPC .

      But , I also use

      Videos

      Articles

      PPV , etc.

      I always prefer to diversify the traffic source among several methods so as to always be on the safe side .

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  • When you say PPC, it doesn't mean what it used to: target keywords on Google, bid for spot on first page, hope for the best.

    Now that you can buy CPM impressions on Google, target a SPECIFIC AREA on a SPECIFIC SITE, etc. the playing field has gotten a lot different.

    And a lot better, in my opinion. If you find a vertical niche and forums, etc. that serve that niche, PPC is the way to hit them where they (almost literally) live in a relatively cost-effective way (still has to convert to sales).

    Fighting it out for Pg1 of Google is for people who are just now reading the ebook guru courses they bought in early 2008.

    Those old courses do serve as a great method to burn out newbie marketers, keeping them from bidding up the keywords which makes it costly for the rest of us.

    Present company excepted, of course! :rolleyes:

    Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    One of he hottest money maker nowadays is CPA .

    Now ,I want to discuss about the #1 most effective source of traffic for CPA offers.

    For me , even though I use multiple sources of traffic , #1 most effective source of traffic is PPC,specially Google Adwords .

    What about you.

    Which traffic source is binging you the most success with CPA offers?

    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author thomas1857
    Does anyone use free classifieds for CPA offers? I've made money with them, but certainly not like PPC. I've lost so much on PPC, I don't feel comfortable using it yet... You get to the point you just don't want to keep loosing, until you have a better grasp on PPC, which I believe takes quite a bit to master...
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  • Profile picture of the author stevebcfc
    offline adds in newspapers get good results but can be expencive, ppc is also very risky if your new to it, its hard to get good advice if your a newbie like me
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    • Profile picture of the author TimStephens
      Hello!

      My best traffic source has always been Google Adwords, however as has been discussed, it is something you must learn over time...or get your head handed to you!

      The good news it that it can be learned. Pick an expert, get their stuff and study it.

      I am currently heavily into Web 2.0...Facebook, MySpace, YouTube, with great results. I like these approaches as it is literally zero cost...just your time!

      Live the Dream!
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      • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
        Originally Posted by TimStephens View Post

        Pick an expert, get their stuff and study it.
        Good advice, but everyone here claims to be an expert. How do you know which "expert" to learn from?
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        • Profile picture of the author TimStephens
          Hey!

          Totally agree...here's how to determine the "real" experts online.

          Go to their web pages, copy them to a text file and go to Alexa and put the sites in to see where they rank.

          "Real" experts get traffic and rankings and good feedback/comments.

          Buy the stuff of the expert how is still actively involved in marketing something online, not just teaching theory from the 80's.

          Hope this helps!
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
          Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

          Good advice, but everyone here claims to be an expert. How do you know which "expert" to learn from?
          Just browse the net to find out the review of the product of the person under question .

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          • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
            Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

            Just browse the net to find out the review of the product of the person under question .
            Not as easy as it sounds, since -- as most of us here know -- many reviews are motivated by affiliate programs.
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            • Profile picture of the author searchnology
              Most effective has to be pay per click...that audience is already interested in the product....all other methods have to convince a consumer otherwise.

              However getting the most effective audience doesn't mean it is the most effective for you business. PPC is not always as scalable as other channels.

              I hope that helps.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
              Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

              Not as easy as it sounds, since -- as most of us here know -- many reviews are motivated by affiliate programs.
              Hey,

              Of course you are right that many reviews are motivated by affiliate programs , but if you have a good friend who tried the product of the person or using some reliable source .

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              • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
                Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

                ...if you have a good friend who tried the product of the person or using some reliable source .
                Wanna be my friend?

                :p
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            • Profile picture of the author newyorknewyork
              Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

              Not as easy as it sounds, since -- as most of us here know -- many reviews are motivated by affiliate programs.
              plus it's so easy to fake reviews nowadays, WSOs are crawling with "experts" patting each other on the back.

              Its getting harder to tell which ones are actually teaching what they have gone through themselves and which ones just did a bit of research and slapped together an ebook with a good sales copy. Usually one only finds out after the purchase.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
                Originally Posted by newyorknewyork View Post

                plus it's so easy to fake reviews nowadays, WSOs are crawling with "experts" patting each other on the back.

                Its getting harder to tell which ones are actually teaching what they have gone through themselves and which ones just did a bit of research and slapped together an ebook with a good sales copy. Usually one only finds out after the purchase.
                I think it is better to analyze the reviews given for each prdcut that you want to buy.

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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Well, yes...i always hear "PPC" also.

    But..don't underestimate slapping a related banner on a high traffic blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author a2z
    Hey Mike,

    Can you pm me?

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    Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    One of he hottest money maker nowadays is CPA .

    Now ,I want to discuss about the #1 most effective source of traffic for CPA offers.

    For me , even though I use multiple sources of traffic , #1 most effective source of traffic is PPC,specially Google Adwords .

    What about you.

    Which traffic source is binging you the most success with CPA offers?

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    • Profile picture of the author Gee S
      So videos have been mentioned a lot for advertising CPA offers.

      But how is it used? Do you have the video linked straight to the CPA offer or do you have it go to your website and look to convert from there???
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  • Profile picture of the author doomain
    how about the traffic that we buy ?? buying traffic from targeted country and direct them to my youtube video.. is that converted well ??
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Originally Posted by mrkrabs View Post

    Adware traffic is doing best for me
    Yes ,

    As you said traffic from adware networks or CPV networks are very effective .

    But , you need to do them the right way to get the most .

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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      It is hard to believe that anyone would actually respond positively to any kind of Adware. I mean, isn't Adware something we are warned about and our Anti virus programms warn us to keep away from?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        It is hard to believe that anyone would actually respond positively to any kind of Adware. I mean, isn't Adware something we are warned about and our Anti virus programms warn us to keep away from?
        Do not get confused.

        PPV programs are also adware and based.

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      • Profile picture of the author OPLeads
        Really depends, since the adware is an integrated part (most of the time) of a toolabar, game etc. that the user is downloading (in order to get something for free) it does not matter much to the user...

        Second most of the adware is nowadays digitally signed, so most Anti Virus Programs do not read them as a threat ....

        Also, do not confuse Adware with Spyware, Virus etc...

        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        It is hard to believe that anyone would actually respond positively to any kind of Adware. I mean, isn't Adware something we are warned about and our Anti virus programms warn us to keep away from?
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      • Profile picture of the author TJComer02
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        It is hard to believe that anyone would actually respond positively to any kind of Adware. I mean, isn't Adware something we are warned about and our Anti virus programms warn us to keep away from?
        Yes it is. That thought keeps me away from doing PPV
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
          Originally Posted by TJComer02 View Post

          Yes it is. That thought keeps me away from doing PPV
          Hey warrior,

          You’re probably thinking that adware is similar to spyware program. But, it is not.


          What makes adware different from spyware is that adware used in PPV systems is 100% permission based and legal.

          Hope it helsp.

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    • Profile picture of the author DigitalRev
      Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

      Yes ,

      As you said traffic from adware networks or CPV networks are very effective .

      But , you need to do them the right way to get the most .

      Mike
      I agree with Mike. Adware or Behaviour targeting usually works very well when it converts back to your CPA as those traffic is usually more expensive than CPC traffic and money goes fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrockSoft
    on-site placement banners.

    No competition as everyone playing around with adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author ManAbout
    What are the adware networks out there? And how much do you need to start?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by ManAbout View Post

      What are the adware networks out there? And how much do you need to start?
      Hi ,

      Adware networks are very effective sources of traffic for CPA offers .

      But , you have to know how to use them properly so as to exploit them .

      At the same time , make sure to use the trusted Adware networks .

      You can get good and trusted networks in my guide .

      Click Here to download the report .

      Hope it helps .

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  • Profile picture of the author ilyasm
    I think PPC, content network, articles are most fastest way to get traffic to Cpa offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author lynmek
    Hey short and sweet guys! Lol !

    I use a combination of PPC, articles, press releases, social sites. All works good for me.

    I think whatever works for YOU is what you should stick with. We're all different, thank goodness, and what works for one may not necessarilly work for the next person.

    Personally, I HATE videos !! 99% of them are total rubbish ! I can't be bothered watching them and, personally, I don't make them.

    Hope this is a useful comment for some of you.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author lynmek
    Forgot to say, guys and gals -

    I don't mine audios, much rather listen than look at some dude's "home office" !! Lol !

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author curious19
    I mix both ppc and seo. SEO takes long time but getting few links a day is not bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author webatomic
    Is there any direct path from PPV to PPC? I am having some limited success with email and zip submits using PPV and I'd love to crank it up using PPC, but I don't want to lose my shirt in the process. Since I'e identified some offers that convert with PPV, can I translate to a PPC campaign? I guess the main difference is I'm targeting individual URLs with PPV.
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    • Profile picture of the author OPLeads
      If you have ome limited success with PPV then I would suggest first to learn how to crank your offers out there before switching to PPC. If you have found an offer that converts, get into other PPV / CPV networks etc. There is a lot you can do with PPV. I assume you already got your tracking down, ad rotation etc.

      If you still want to do PPC, then I suggest you look into whether the sites you are currently targeting (I hope you target sites and not only Keywords in PPV) have adsense on them ... If they do, get a placement content campaing running in PPC. But don't be surprised if your CPC (price)is going way up...

      Another easy method to get into PPC is find a question that is both emotional and current that relates to the topic you are currently marketing in PPV and start a Poll using PPC (content network). There are many tools out there that can help you create those polls, look around.

      Originally Posted by webatomic View Post

      Is there any direct path from PPV to PPC? I am having some limited success with email and zip submits using PPV and I'd love to crank it up using PPC, but I don't want to lose my shirt in the process. Since I'e identified some offers that convert with PPV, can I translate to a PPC campaign? I guess the main difference is I'm targeting individual URLs with PPV.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lpdesigner
    AdWords and Facebook are my favorite traffic sources for CPA offers
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  • Profile picture of the author John David.
    hi ,

    I am getting nice results by combining articles traffic with presell.

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  • Profile picture of the author Adworkz
    Some of the major publishers in the CPA/Lead Gen verticals are pros at SEO. The downside is that it can take a little while to get the positioning necessary to start earning a return on investment, but once you do, the ROI is much higher than with the paid SEM models.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by Adworkz View Post

      Some of the major publishers in the CPA/Lead Gen verticals are pros at SEO. The downside is that it can take a little while to get the positioning necessary to start earning a return on investment, but once you do, the ROI is much higher than with the paid SEM models.

      I always say that if you can get your page to the first page of google search engine results page , SEO is very ... very effective . And more than any thing it is free .

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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Warrior
    Yes most network will allow ppv. I know because that is what I am using now.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by innitmedia View Post

      I get good ROI from very carefully selected CPA offers using targeted media buys for traffic. One must still split test different offers and banners to find out which combinations are the most profitable.

      I've had some success using Google Adwords too but, in general, I prefer media buys.

      Cheers,

      Steve
      Hey Steve,

      I definitely agree that Media Buys are very powerful to bring highly targeted traffic to your CPA offer. At the same time, Media buys are very huge.

      But, you should also know that, if you do PPC the right way it so powerful that it can make you lots of money.

      To wrap up...

      I recommend that you use both Media and PPC so as to diversify your traffic and get the most money.

      Cheers, Mike
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    media buys
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    • Profile picture of the author JackScanlan
      Sorry if this is obvious, but what is the difference between PPV and Media Buys? Are media buys simply buying one banner space on a targeted website? And PPV is paying for impressions shown across a network via adware? Is that the general idea?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by jscanlan84 View Post

        Sorry if this is obvious, but what is the difference between PPV and Media Buys? Are media buys simply buying one banner space on a targeted website? And PPV is paying for impressions shown across a network via adware? Is that the general idea?
        As you said Media Buys is Buying Ads from related sites, While …

        PPV (Pay per View) advertising also known as contextual advertising or CPV is a form of advertising that incorporates the concept of keyword or URL targeting with the low cost per view (CPV) model.

        In simple terms, it is a display advertisement which works based on PPV (pay per view) model, means; you only pay when your audience views your website.

        Unlike search or other forms of display advertising, you aren’t paying per click (PPC) or thousand impressions (CPM) on a banner or text ads. Rather, you are paying for each pop-up ad served in a computer with adware installed in it.

        Each pop up costs you an amount of money, no matter the user clicks through or ignores/closes your pop-up completely. And, you normally pay 1.5 cents per view, even 1 cent in some PPV networks.

        PPV traffic is very cheap and targeted.

        I hope it helps .

        Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Fox30
    One of my best traffic sources of my CPA campaigns is Contextual Traffic (PPV)...loads of traffic for a very low cost.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
    I am really surprised to see PPC listed as top method by many. I was under the impression the high CPC's and Google being so hard to work with would take a toll with CPA.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Christian Fox View Post

      I am really surprised to see PPC listed as top method by many. I was under the impression the high CPC's and Google being so hard to work with would take a toll with CPA.

      Yes, that is why its hard to get a positive money-making campaign, but once you do, there is soo much potential traffic with PPC that you can scale massively and thats where the big money is!
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      • Profile picture of the author harro1
        Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

        Yes, that is why its hard to get a positive money-making campaign, but once you do, there is soo much potential traffic with PPC that you can scale massively and thats where the big money is!
        I read one of your post in 2009 , you said that ppc ripped you off, now you have launched wso's and seems like an expert in ppc, good progress man, keep it up!
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Originally Posted by harro1 View Post

          I read one of your post in 2009 , you said that ppc ripped you off, now you have launched wso's and seems like an expert in ppc, good progress man, keep it up!

          Yep, PPC was tough to learn, at least for me. I felt like I was getting nowhere and throwing good money at bad. But once you hit that good campaign that does really well, then you realize the potential. Most campaigns fail, this is tough for people when they are starting out, but its the way it is.

          But as I said, once you get into the rhythm and have a systematic approach to testing and running campaigns, then its just a matter of time and numbers before you find the good campaigns and then the fun begins when its time to ramp up.

          There is a lot of traffic with PPC. You dont need to be an expert, I dont think I am, but you need to have a systematic approach and be willing to put in the work in testing and tracking. There is tremendous software out there that helps this process. PPC is work to build campaigns, but with most things in life, the hardest work results in the best rewards.
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          • Profile picture of the author cpabrainstormer
            I personally think the best traffic source is organic traffic. Not sure if someone already said that (wasn't able to read all 180+ posts!), but I have found that promoting CPA offers with blogging works amazing!

            Yes, it does take a little more effort than just paying for traffic, but if you have a lot of quality content on your page, and you're putting in that LITTLE extra work that other marketers don't want to put in, that gives you a HUGE advantage. And the best part about it is, you aren't losing the lifetime value of the customer.

            Instead of paying for traffic and getting a one-time sale from the customer, why not put an opt-in box on your blog and give away a report that is going to help them accomplish what they already set out to do? This way you are building a list and you can keep them as a customer and promote future offers to them as well! Just my opinion, but I like to put in the work now so I don't have to later on ! Hope this helps!

            Best of Luck,

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            • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
              Originally Posted by cpabrainstormer View Post

              I personally think the best traffic source is organic traffic. Not sure if someone already said that (wasn't able to read all 180+ posts!), but I have found that promoting CPA offers with blogging works amazing!

              Yes, it does take a little more effort than just paying for traffic, but if you have a lot of quality content on your page, and you're putting in that LITTLE extra work that other marketers don't want to put in, that gives you a HUGE advantage. And the best part about it is, you aren't losing the lifetime value of the customer.

              Instead of paying for traffic and getting a one-time sale from the customer, why not put an opt-in box on your blog and give away a report that is going to help them accomplish what they already set out to do? This way you are building a list and you can keep them as a customer and promote future offers to them as well! Just my opinion, but I like to put in the work now so I don't have to later on ! Hope this helps!

              Best of Luck,

              CPABrainstormer
              Nice comment .

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  • Profile picture of the author Virus
    Source of traffic depends upon your hard work. I really wonder when someone ask about the source of traffic, is there any which doesn't work or is there any which works without input?
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  • Profile picture of the author Aff1
    media buys , outsourcing , blogs, forums, yahoo answers ( not BH ) I lost lot's of money doing ppc ( probably done it wrong LOL)
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    Sounds like it might be a black bottom method
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    youtube is the best for me
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Deez.webguru View Post

        Hmmm what would you guys say is the most effective FREE traffic generation systems you have used? I noticed that keyword target articles seem to create a fair amount of traffic. The only problem is that on of the largest articles sites - ezinearticles doest allow you to post sub-domain links or even bit.ly links not even on ur Authors Signature....

        Free Traffic...

        SEO - If you get good at the art&science of ranking in the search engiens, you can get massive amounts of free traffic, and build long term web properties that will make yuo money far into the future. Easier said than done though..seo is a tough beast to master.


        ARTICLES - very easy and mildly effective traffic source. Its good as part of a SEO strategy, but as a traffic source itself, it works but its a lot of work for the rewards in my opinion. Lots of writing, hit or miss articles, but many people make modest livings doing just articles.

        VIDEO - very easy to do, very fast if you have the right resources and systems and mildly successful. I did quite well with video when I was starting but it was a lot of tedious work.

        OFFLINE - one of the most under-rated traffic sources in my opinion. I did quite well offline when I was starting as well. The competition is low, but can be a lot of tedious work once again. This assumes you are doing CPA offline. If you are making money offline via consulting, web dev or something else, there is still tremendous opportunity.


        At the end of the day everybody prefers different traffic. My thoughts are above, but others may completely disagree with my feelings. Different strokes for different folks!




        Originally Posted by Deez.webguru View Post

        Most excellent, well done on taking a bold step and believing in yourself and for realizing that we don't need to be corporate slaves or victims of the the rat race in order to be wealthy.


        For Sure! Entrepreneurship is not only a way to make money, but a way to live a great life. Lots of work, but you have freedom, flexibility and most important to me was that I get to control my destiny. I can work as hard or as little as I like.

        If I create value, I get to reap the rewards, not a company, not my boss, ME.


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          Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

          Free Traffic...

          SEO - If you get good at the art&science of ranking in the search engiens, you can get massive amounts of free traffic, and build long term web properties that will make yuo money far into the future. Easier said than done though..seo is a tough beast to master.


          ARTICLES - very easy and mildly effective traffic source. Its good as part of a SEO strategy, but as a traffic source itself, it works but its a lot of work for the rewards in my opinion. Lots of writing, hit or miss articles, but many people make modest livings doing just articles.

          VIDEO - very easy to do, very fast if you have the right resources and systems and mildly successful. I did quite well with video when I was starting but it was a lot of tedious work.

          OFFLINE - one of the most under-rated traffic sources in my opinion. I did quite well offline when I was starting as well. The competition is low, but can be a lot of tedious work once again. This assumes you are doing CPA offline. If you are making money offline via consulting, web dev or something else, there is still tremendous opportunity.


          At the end of the day everybody prefers different traffic. My thoughts are above, but others may completely disagree with my feelings. Different strokes for different folks!








          For Sure! Entrepreneurship is not only a way to make money, but a way to live a great life. Lots of work, but you have freedom, flexibility and most important to me was that I get to control my destiny. I can work as hard or as little as I like.

          If I create value, I get to reap the rewards, not a company, not my boss, ME.


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          sir,can you tell me more details about "offline",I have no ideas about that,a noob in CPA market.
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    • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
      Originally Posted by Deez.webguru View Post

      Hmmm what would you guys say is the most effective FREE traffic generation systems you have used? I noticed that keyword target articles seem to create a fair amount of traffic. The only problem is that on of the largest articles sites - ezinearticles doest allow you to post sub-domain links or even bit.ly links not even on ur Authors Signature....
      Most effective (not really free but isn't a traditional "paid" method) is building a email list.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by Deez.webguru View Post

      I noticed that keyword target articles seem to create a fair amount of traffic.
      I definitely agree that if used properly article marketing is very effective .
      And , as you said , in order to get the most , you need to select the right keyword .

      It is also important that you build links your articles .

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  • Profile picture of the author George Gomez
    It really depends.

    Some offers perform better with a certain type of traffic.

    e.g.: Entertainment offers tend to perform better with social traffic and biz-op tend to perform better with paid search traffic.

    The key is to understand that the traffic is NOT equal.

    hope this helps,
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by Mário Gomes View Post

      It really depends.

      Some offers perform better with a certain type of traffic.
      I Agree that one type of offer can work effectively with some traffic sources and flop with others .

      So , as it has been said , the traffic source you choose will dictate what type of offer you need to promote .

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  • Profile picture of the author japal
    I'm gonna test for sure what works and will try PPC, CPV for building my list and promote CPA offers direct. That's the best way to know for sure what works best
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    • Profile picture of the author williamrs
      Originally Posted by japal View Post

      I'm gonna test for sure what works and will try PPC, CPV for building my list and promote CPA offers direct. That's the best way to know for sure what works best
      I don't know too much about PPV, but with PPC it's not hard to build a list and make money at the same time. Just use autoresponder series to promote CPA offers.


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  • Profile picture of the author philipdenn
    income went down and no other offers converts like the other program. PPC is quick and targeted, but if you have organic traffics, it is free and targeted.organic search with right type of campaign. I have a site and I did almost $20K per month from one site, after program killed all affiliate programs.
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  • Profile picture of the author mark587905
    Organic search is the long term strategy for traffic for cpa offers. PPC does well also.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by mark587905 View Post

      Organic search is the long term strategy for traffic for cpa offers. PPC does well also.
      I definitely aggree that if you take time to build sites which are optimized for the search engine , for sure you are going to create long term income stream.

      But , PPC is quick and if done the right way , it is very effective .

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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

        I definitely aggree that if you take time to build sites which are optimized for the search engine , for sure you are going to create long term income stream.

        But , PPC is quick and if done the right way , it is very effective .

        Mike

        I agree with Mike....PPC is a good strategy for huge profits, but its much much more volatile. You have your great days and your days you wish never happened!


        SEO is a great longer term play and in my opinion, everybody should have a small network of SEO sites as base income, its a bit more stable. Then do PPC, PPV, media whatever as more of your speculative "investments". Once you are good at PPC, then sure its a more reliable investment but until then, its tough. People doing huge numbers with PPC still though !
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    ppc you can quickly determine
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  • Profile picture of the author RoadToRuin
    Well the best converting traffic is usually ppc, but you should have diverse methods to maximize profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by RoadToRuin View Post

      Well the best converting traffic is usually ppc, but you should have diverse methods to maximize profit.
      PPC converts better than other traffic sources only if you focus your efforts on keywords people use when they are ready to take action .

      So , if you want to build good conversion PPC campaigns , make sure that you focus on the so called " Money Keywords".

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author wrassie86
        Lot of great info here! I just started my first AD words campaign, Still waiting to see how it turns out.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaspast666
    has anyone been using ppv? i have been looking into that and a lot of what i hear is that it is a really short term method because the reach of ppv marketing is very very small compared to media buying and ppc. do any of the medium to large ppv marketers notice this ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Filter
    Not sure what you mean by the "reach being very small" on PPV. Hitting a good URL target with a PPV campaign will get you enough traffic to bring a shared host to it's knees
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  • Profile picture of the author ianbong
    I use banner ads. Like really cheap ones. The conversion is pretty low, but its enough to be profitable for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by ianbong View Post

      I use banner ads. Like really cheap ones. The conversion is pretty low, but its enough to be profitable for me.
      As you said the conversion of banner ads is low .

      But , the point is if you can make it work for you or if you can have positive ROI , that is what you need .

      Thanks.
      Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    I have heard that people make money through the power of twitter and JV ( Joint Venture ) , though I didn't try it my self .

    What is your experience on this .
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  • Profile picture of the author John David
    I have been doing SEO for the last few monhts and I am doing very well now .
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  • Profile picture of the author MrAngelov
    well i guess to make money you need to invest money
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    • Profile picture of the author steve m
      Originally Posted by MrAngelov View Post

      well i guess to make money you need to invest money

      Exactly! You can spend all your time using free methods, but how much is your time worth?

      I would rather pay for everything and make less, then wait weeks for results that could ultimately fail, at least with with PPC you can find out if an offer converts almost instantly then move on. With some free methods you will not find out untill you have written umpteen articles or seo'd your new site.

      Personally I would rather get hit in the pocket then waste my valuable time on something that does not convert.

      I may be alone on this though
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
        Originally Posted by steve m View Post

        Exactly! You can spend all your time using free methods, but how much is your time worth?

        I would rather pay for everything and make less, then wait weeks for results that could ultimately fail, at least with with PPC you can find out if an offer converts almost instantly then move on. With some free methods you will not find out untill you have written umpteen articles or seo'd your new site.

        Personally I would rather get hit in the pocket then waste my valuable time on something that does not convert.

        I may be alone on this though
        That is a brilliant idea .

        You are not alone . Lots of marketers follow , including me follow the same approach .

        First , I test the potential , profitability and focal point with PPC and I expand based on the result .
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        • Profile picture of the author steve m
          Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

          That is a brilliant idea .

          You are not alone . Lots of marketers follow , including me follow the same approach .

          First , I test the potential , profitability and focal point with PPC and I expand based on the result .
          I didn't think I would be to be honest with you Mike, just makes sense to me. Can always expand on the winning campaigns, and get rid of the loosing ones.

          Spend a little earn a lot

          I would feel much better loosing a few hundred dollars then writing say fifty articles submitting them all over the place for the offer to suck.

          Come to think of it, to write 50 article would take me forever anyways.

          thanks

          Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Kathleen J Marry
    ppc I just belive in ,,,
    And I have no idea about videos.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
      Originally Posted by Kathleen J Marry View Post

      ppc I just belive in ,,,
      And I have no idea about videos.
      Just search the forum , I am sure you will get lots of resources on video marketing .
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